Michigan pronoun bill

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So totally cool if we meet and you tell me to call you Phil. And I respond by calling you "redneck booger eater" all day. 

Here's how a person in a functional society starts an interaction with another: by showing respect. Behavior will show you whether they deserve to continue being respected. They've earned it until they show they don't deserve it. If someone prefers to be called "they/them" instead of he or she, get the fuk over it. Only sheltered selfish sissy whiny crybabies have a problem with this concept.

Except that's not the same thing at all. You're asking people to deny biology to satisfy the mentally ill.

Used to be a time in this country where we helped mentally ill people, not catered to them. Stop catering to them.  You don't make them better by validating their delusions.

Of course, we know why you're doing it: For virtue signaling purposes. You couldn't give two s**** about those people.  It's all about showing others how virtuous you are , but really having no skin in the game yourself. It's too much work

[Patented Phil 1,469]

19 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So totally cool if we meet and you tell me to call you Phil. And I respond by calling you "redneck booger eater" all day. 

Here's how a person in a functional society starts an interaction with another: by showing respect. Behavior will show you whether they deserve to continue being respected. They've earned it until they show they don't deserve it. If someone prefers to be called "they/them" instead of he or she, get the fuk over it. Only sheltered selfish sissy whiny crybabies have a problem with this concept.

This is why Libtards like you shouldn’t have one ounce of political influence in this country.  You’re overly emotional, and well - not that smart.  This isn’t about what people should say - it’s about the Government not being able to prosecute it.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

In the 80’s, classical Liberals used to protect the free speech of the KKK on college campuses.  And here’s a hint - they hated the KKK.

Leftist pukes like Fnord have no business ever referring to themselves as Liberals.

[Drizzay 713]

Who gives a fock what I should say.

I can call you a pin head and you need to get over it.  Not whine to daddy government.

Jesus, what the fock happened to people?

[seafoam1 2,916]

35 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Except that's not the same thing at all. You're asking people to deny biology to satisfy the mentally ill.

Used to be a time in this country where we helped mentally ill people, not catered to them. Stop catering to them.  You don't make them better by validating their delusions.

Of course, we know why you're doing it: For virtue signaling purposes. You couldn't give two s**** about those people.  It's all about showing others how virtuous you are , but really having no skin in the game yourself. It's too much work

You'll never convince a liberal to use logic. It goes against their programming. It's easy for the liberal politicians and social extremists to control so many of their followers because the liberal followers in this country are so weak minded and emotional. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

28 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

This is why Libtards like you shouldn’t have one ounce of political influence in this country.  You’re overly emotional, and well - not that smart.  This isn’t about what people should say - it’s about the Government not being able to prosecute it.

I mean, we LITERALLY have Freedom of Speech codified in the Constitution's Bill of Rights to protect against the VERY thing. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, Drizzay said:

Who gives a fock what I should say.

 

The end purpose of this is to create a legal pathway to separate children from parents. That way children can be convinced that they should have "gender affirming care"  Since there are big dollars in this and this would be paid for by the parent's health insurance, it's huge money in the bank for corporate health care interests and Big Pharma. 

Children have no agency. It's why they are legally "minors" and need to reach the "age of majority" to attain a full suite of adult rights as American citizens. From a legal standpoint, there is no way the radical left and the DNC can get around this other than to leverage "non compliant" parents as criminals. 

Exit polling shows that the LGBT community votes anywhere from 79-85 percent Democrat, all up and down the ticket. They also are useful in campaigns and many are tireless activists and give consistent political donations. Since they typically can't have children of their own to create new future "legacy voters", they will resort to indoctrinating other people's children. 

[Fnord 2,175]

14 hours ago, Drizzay said:

Who gives a fock what I should say.

I can call you a pin head and you need to get over it.  Not whine to daddy government.

Jesus, what the fock happened to people?

Ok. I agree, people are far too sensitive and easily offended today. But you all get your panties in a wad when people start calling you uneducated moron redneck racists. Get the fuk over it.

I wonder why MAGAmooks have such a reputation for being dipshits? Complete lack of self awareness and inability to see things from someone else's POV are decent starting points. Emotional intelligence is a real thing.

 

[Fnord 2,175]

15 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Except that's not the same thing at all. You're asking people to deny biology to satisfy the mentally ill.

Used to be a time in this country where we helped mentally ill people, not catered to them. Stop catering to them.  You don't make them better by validating their delusions.

Of course, we know why you're doing it: For virtue signaling purposes. You couldn't give two s**** about those people.  It's all about showing others how virtuous you are , but really having no skin in the game yourself. It's too much work

This is assbackwards. We help people suffering from all sorts of mental issues. Depression being one that a third of Americans will experience. Calling transgenders what they prefer to be called isn't "catering to delusions," it's not "denying biology." It's showing a fellow human basic respect.

I get it, respect is not something high on the MAGAmook agenda, where every stupid little fuking thing is confrontational and persecutory toward the poor, downtrodden straight white men. Which, incidentally, is evidence of a mental disorder. So I guess you're all afflicted. Time for the rest of the country to stop validating your dipshlt delusions.

As for the rest of your stupid statement, you don't know shlt about me. If anything, you're virtue signaling ignorance and bigotry to your fellow ignorant bigots. Signal received!

[Baker Boy 1,694]

Does this apply to people continually calling others a racist? How about fat, stupid, loser, idiot, ugly, etc.

It amazes me that adults are offended by words.

[Fnord 2,175]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Does this apply to people continually calling others a racist? How about fat, stupid, loser, idiot, ugly, etc.

It amazes me that adults are offended by words.

Nope. You need to get the fuk over it according to your boys. Suck it up bigots!

[dogcows 1,030]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Does this apply to people continually calling others a racist? How about fat, stupid, loser, idiot, ugly, etc.

It amazes me that adults are offended by words.

No, it doesn’t apply to that, nor does it apply to all the stuff the doofuses in here claim it does. They are just plain lying or else too stupid to read. If you want to be a piece of crap and call a transgender woman he instead of she? This law doesn’t do anything to you. Now, if you target that person with violence, threats, intimidation, or harassment simply because they are transgender? Now you’re violating the law. It’s very simple, but Faux News says “go to jail for using wrong pronoun“ and the smooth-brains believe it.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

No, it doesn’t apply to that, nor does it apply to all the stuff the doofuses in here claim it does. They are just plain lying or else too stupid to read. If you want to be a piece of crap and call a transgender woman he instead of she? This law doesn’t do anything to you. Now, if you target that person with violence, threats, intimidation, or harassment simply because they are transgender? Now you’re violating the law. It’s very simple, but Faux News says “go to jail for using wrong pronoun“ and the smooth-brains believe it.

Seems calling people racist, bigot, etc... is also threatening behavior - especially when they aren't and you're only doing it because you want to shut down speech.  

So much for all that "respect" you talk about. 

GTFO

[dogcows 1,030]

6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Seems calling people racist, bigot, etc... is also threatening behavior - especially when they aren't and you're only doing it because you want to shut down speech.  

So much for all that "respect" you talk about. 

GTFO

How is calling somebody racist a threat? LOL what a

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

How is calling somebody racist a threat? LOL what a

How is calling someone who is literally a male a "he" a threat?  that's the point, you dope.  

This bill is trying to mask it's true purpose to make an end-around of the 1st amendment.  seriously, how dense are you?

[dogcows 1,030]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

How is calling someone who is literally a male a "he" a threat? 

It’s not. I just said that. Can you read?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,248]

Who’s killing all the black people? 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

39 minutes ago, dogcows said:

No, it doesn’t apply to that, nor does it apply to all the stuff the doofuses in here claim it does. They are just plain lying or else too stupid to read. If you want to be a piece of crap and call a transgender woman he instead of she? This law doesn’t do anything to you. Now, if you target that person with violence, threats, intimidation, or harassment simply because they are transgender? Now you’re violating the law. It’s very simple, but Faux News says “go to jail for using wrong pronoun“ and the smooth-brains believe it.

That is against the law where I live no matter who you are targeting. Was this legal in Michigan? I don’t get it and obviously you don’t either.

[squistion 2,122]

19 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Tough shiat.  While the rest of the world was advancing the Indians continued to live in mud huts and still hunted with bows and arrows.  The strong civilizations survive, the weak ones don't.  This has been the way of the world since man first arrived on the planet and not just in America.  Suck it up, buttercup.

Whether it's right or wrong is mostly irrelevant.  The history of man has been built on blood, violence and war and that will never change but it's been those conflicts that have gotten us to where we are today - an advanced functioning civilization built on laws, you smart phone, online sissy.  Had we let the Indians run things we'd still be in huts and using bow and arrows.  In all actuality, civilizations collapse, get snuffed out or get taken over EXACTLY because of weak men like you.

Advanced and good civilizations just don't happen overnight.  It's an iterative process over thousands of years of learning from your successes but mostly from your mistakes.  Make no mistake, though, bad civilizations are still competing and we've seen what bad civilizations look like when your crowd gets in control: Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba to name a few, which is why it is of upmost importance to prevent your kind from taking over the greatest country in the world.

Also, I don't hear about you giving back all of your things to those Indians (or whatever minority group is the flavor of the week with your crowd).  All you do is talk.  How about you walk the walk instead of talking the talk you f'n hypocrite?

GTFO.

And it sure seems that way to you. 

[dogcows 1,030]

34 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

That is against the law where I live no matter who you are targeting. Was this legal in Michigan? I don’t get it and obviously you don’t either.

Did you read the bill that was linked? It’s an amendment to the state’s existing “ethnic intimidation” statute. It changes “ethnic intimidation” to “hate crime” and modifies some other wording in the bill. Part of it is adding protections for gender identity in addition to the existing protections for race, ethnicity, gender, religion, etc.

I get it because I read it. It seems like most people opposed to this never actually read it. They just took the Faux News talking points and ran with them.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

26 minutes ago, squistion said:

And it sure seems that way to you. 

Suck it up, buttercup.  You make stupid posts and when people respond to you with logic, facts and truth you run and completely evade it.

SOP for you.  Stay weak and cowardly - it's what you do best. 

[squistion 2,122]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Suck it up, buttercup.  You make stupid posts and when people respond to you with logic, facts and truth you run and completely evade it.

SOP for you.  Stay weak and cowardly - it's what you do best. 

Dude, you just admitted that what is right or wrong is irrelevant to you. 

[Baker Boy 1,694]

30 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Did you read the bill that was linked? It’s an amendment to the state’s existing “ethnic intimidation” statute. It changes “ethnic intimidation” to “hate crime” and modifies some other wording in the bill. Part of it is adding protections for gender identity in addition to the existing protections for race, ethnicity, gender, religion, etc.

I get it because I read it. It seems like most people opposed to this never actually read it. They just took the Faux News talking points and ran with them.

No, I didn’t read the bill, I don’t live in Michigan and I’m never going there. What are these additional protections? 

[squistion 2,122]

6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

No, I didn’t read the bill, I don’t live in Michigan and I’m never going there. What are these additional protections? 

My understanding is that it just expands the definition of the existing hate crime legislation to include the LGBTQ community. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,024]

42 minutes ago, squistion said:

Dude, you just admitted that what is right or wrong is irrelevant to you. 

That's not what I said at all. Maybe you should go back and reread the post. Context is important here, especially when you're trying to straw man people!

[League Champion 1,909]

Can we still say that the LGBTQ Community are a bunch of sick, confused, mentally ill perverts?

Is that a crime? 

[squistion 2,122]

35 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Can we still say that the LGBTQ Community are a bunch of sick, confused, mentally ill perverts?

Is that a crime? 

No, you can continue to say all those bigoted and hateful things against LGBTQ folks as usual. You can even start another thread du jour ranting against them if you wish and there will be no legality penalty (although there could be some form of karmic retribution). 

[seafoam1 2,916]

5 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, you can continue to say all those bigoted and hateful things against LGBTQ folks as usual. You can even start another thread du jour ranting against them if you wish and there will be no legality penalty (although there could be some form of karmic retribution). 

"Karmic retribution". For not wanting to make mental illness the norm.  

 

[squistion 2,122]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"Karmic retribution". For not wanting to make mental illness the norm. 

Hating on folks is generally considered bad karma. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

On 7/3/2023 at 10:20 AM, Fnord said:

So, a long-winded way of saying "I don't respect you enough as a person to refer to you in the way in which you prefer." Got it. It's not about making people conform to someone else's beliefs, it's about basic fukking respect.  You should find some for those that aren't white male conservatives. 

if lack of basic respect gets you tossed in jail, we need to start with you, rusty, and all the other trolls that have no respect for anyone.

[RLLD 4,192]

Compelled language from government......pretty sure this is a direct violation of the constitution....

[GutterBoy 2,898]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Compelled language from government......pretty sure this is a direct violation of the constitution....

Unless it's direct, personal, and/or threatening, which is what we have here.

GC legal team is the best

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

I see the GC Communists are still in full force on hate.  It's a shame what the left has become.  They used to care about rights, now they want to destroy them.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I see the GC Communists are still in full force on hate.  It's a shame what the left has become.  They used to care about rights, now they want to destroy them.

Calling someone by their preferred pronouns is hate now.  GC fascists never stop with the idiocy 

[RLLD 4,192]

33 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Unless it's direct, personal, and/or threatening, which is what we have here.

GC legal team is the best

Incorrect. And I know you are not being sarcastic here....so you actually do not understand.....wow....

[Hardcore troubadour 15,248]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I see the GC Communists are still in full force on hate.  It's a shame what the left has become.  They used to care about rights, now they want to destroy them.

 For some things. They are willing to stand up for grown men dressed as women waving their junk in front of kids.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

54 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 For some things. They are willing to stand up for grown men dressed as women waving their junk in front of kids.  

Good point.

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

57 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Calling someone by their preferred pronouns is hate now.  GC fascists never stop with the idiocy 

Communists love people like you.  Why not end your hopes for having that here and move to Cuba, North Korea, or China now?  There's a few others... take your pick.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Communists love people like you.  Why not end your hopes for having that here and move to Cuba, North Korea, or China now?  There's a few others... take your pick.

Or you could just move to Russia.

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Or you could just move to Russia.

They're not capitalist.