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2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

He's no good either, but nice try.

Who is a leader that you would say is non authoritarian?

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2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Debauchery. :lol:

Exactly, that was the point of my posts awhile ago. I don't view our country in terms of patriots vs. groomers.  

I have no problems with patriotism and safe communities.  I'm sure we differ a bit on the first part, though.  

I dont go around claoming every lib and every lbghjk person is a groomer.  

But the left is certainly for going real soft on crime.  Real hard on anything deemed remotely offensive.   Thats pretty obvious.   They pound the table for "different" people and criminals.  Who cares about the normals.  The normals are bad people unless they have a blm sign in their yard and a ukraine flag on their twitter.  

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Just now, thegeneral said:

Russia and Trannies. This is like the Geek Club White Whale thread.

Thousand pages minimum. 

More libs have posted in this thread than conservatives.   Or about the same. 

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Just now, listen2me 23 said:

More libs have posted in this thread than conservatives.   Or about the same. 

This thread will have it all! Mix in some war talk and like I said 1000 pages 😂

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

NOT authoritarian or LESS authoritarian?

How about one of each?

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2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I dont go around claoming every lib and every lbghjk person is a groomer.  

But the left is certainly for going real soft on crime.  Real hard on anything deemed remotely offensive.   Thats pretty obvious.   They pound the table for "different" people and criminals.  Who cares about the normals.  The normals are bad people unless th have a blm sign in their yard and a ukraine flag on their twitter.  

Soft on crime is certainly an issue for them.  Like I said though, culture war stuff is not at the top of my list when voting for big offices.  

I still think you all spend too much time online too, I know 0 people Irl who don't care about "normal" people and family, no matter their voting record.  

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Just now, BuckSwope said:

Soft on crime is certainly an issue for them.  Like I said though, culture war stuff is not at the top of my list when voting for big offices.  

I still think you all spend too much time online too, I know 0 people Irl who don't care about "normal" people and family, no matter their voting record.  

I care about actual issues too.  It is too bad Libs can't discuss much because they aren't for much of anything they vote for besides the feelers.  Unless of course they are progressives.   

Normal middle aged people who vote for Libs can never say what policies they like.  Every Biden voter thinks he sucks.  But its "orange man bad".   

The 2nd part not sure how to respond.  Im sure you had a point but don't really get it.  

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9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I care about actual issues too.  It is too bad Libs can't discuss much because they aren't for much of anything they vote for besides the feelers.  Unless of course they are progressives.   

Normal middle aged people who vote for Libs can never say what policies they like.  Every Biden voter thinks he sucks.  But its "orange man bad".   

The 2nd part not sure how to respond.  Im sure you had a point but don't really get it.  

My point is your perception and description of the left is not real life representation, at least in my experience.  Just like the nuts here are not representative of the right interact with in real life.  They vote for the same issues you do, they just might not agree or have different rankings.  People largely just want to be left alone and provide for their family.  

If you go by issues or use a site like isidewith,  I line up closest with libertarian.  Do you ask people why they voted how they did? 

Sad thing is largely politicians don't care about the issues or talk about them, so I can't largely blame the population is they get sucked into feels and culture wars. 

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38 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

He's no good either, but nice try.

He is very good in that he is one that keeps getting cheered here. 

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4 hours ago, weepaws said:

The American government wouldn’t ever do the right thing

What?

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3 hours ago, squistion said:

No surprise on this forum. SMH.

They like authoritarian dictators and if Trump is elected in 2024 they want to see him push for legislation just like this, so that will also happen here.

Tell me again that liberals and Democrats are the ones who want to take away people's rights and the ability make choices over their bodies and how they live their lives.

 

you need to learn what rights are.  FWIW you dont have a right to have a doctor cut off your arm because you feel like a one armed person, you also don't have a right to kill yourself

that being said if you are a moron who wants to never have sexual gratification again in your life and be a lifelong pill popper and have health issues, go for it

 

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3 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Yeah, Russia is executing that strong moral fiber when it brutally invades a free, democratic nation - causing hundreds of thousands of deaths, untold destruction and misery, and world instability, uses force and violence to keep its people from exercising free speech, shuts down any media voice that disagrees with the leadership, using digital technology to track down, censor and control the population.

Now idiots such as you want the same thing in this country, run by a power-hungry, criminal madman who wants to lead an autocracy.

You've reached a new low here.

now do the US

and insert

Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, hell Ukraine, on and on and on

if you love this war, you love that the US overthrew the democratically elected president in Ukraine and think that its cool

this war was 1000% avoidable, but Obama admin and the war mongers needed to have their wars

 

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Fockin liberals are the ones that pump up Castro/ Cuba for their healthcare. And they love their Che Guevara T -shirts. STFU. You lot have no place criticizing this. And what’s your beloved Muslim countries stance on this? Remember them? You were all weepy when they couldn’t come here. Heywood thinks you’re  all full of shitt. 

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Never thought I’d see the day when “Americans” were siding with a thug like Putin over their own country.

And these people think they’re patriots. :thumbsdown: 

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6 minutes ago, MDC said:

Never thought I’d see the day when “Americans” were siding with a thug like Putin over their own country.

And these people think they’re patriots. :thumbsdown: 

youre one of the few libs that knows we started the war in Ukraine

 

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4 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't want us to be like Russia.  We are suppose to be a free country.  Free to speak our minds, live our lives, and follow whatever religion we want or don't want to.  I will always stand by the idea of, if you're not affecting others then it's not much of my business and you should be free to do so.

The not affecting others is where the disagreements begin.  Otherwise, we don’t give a flying Fock.

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15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

youre one of the few libs that knows we started the war in Ukraine

 

Trolling comes first.  Always. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

now do the US

and insert

Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, hell Ukraine, on and on and on

if you love this war, you love that the US overthrew the democratically elected president in Ukraine and think that its cool

this war was 1000% avoidable, but Obama admin and the war mongers needed to have their wars

 

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because we made some focked up military decisions in the past doesn't justify Russia creating the bloodiest war on European soil since World War II, but that's MAGAturd logic for you.

And fock T-pump for making you delusional losers think it wouldn't have happend on his watch and that he could solve it in a day.

Just how would you do that, T-pump? 

Haven't seen him put out a plan on this. He could say he'd have had cancer cured by now, and you'd buy it hook, line and sinker.

MAGAturd gonna MAGAturd.

 

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3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because we made some focked up military decisions in the past doesn't justify Russia creating the bloodiest war on European soil since World War II, but that's MAGAturd logic for you.

And fock T-pump for making you delusional losers think it wouldn't have happend on his watch and that he could solve it in a day.

Just how would you do that, T-pump? 

Haven't seen him put out a plan on this. He could say he'd have had cancer cured by now, and you'd buy it hook, line and sinker.

MAGAturd gonna MAGAturd.

 

I dunno man we had some pretty good peace under Trump. Was able to keep Russia at bay, literally walked into North Korea. All of that changed almost immediately after he left office.

Not even you can deny that. But you probably will. The cat urine has destroyed your brain.

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6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because we made some focked up military decisions in the past doesn't justify Russia creating the bloodiest war on European soil since World War II, but that's MAGAturd logic for you.

And fock T-pump for making you delusional losers think it wouldn't have happend on his watch and that he could solve it in a day.

Just how would you do that, T-pump? 

Haven't seen him put out a plan on this. He could say he'd have had cancer cured by now, and you'd buy it hook, line and sinker.

MAGAturd gonna MAGAturd.

 

The problem you have is all you're doing is making guesses and assumptions.  You have no idea what would've happened.  If you go by history, those making the case that Putin wouldn't have invaded have a MUCH stronger case than you do.

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Gay Marriage is illegal in Ukraine.  You know, the good guys.  Stfu. 

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9 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Putin continues to crack down on degeneracy and mark clear difference between Russian culture and the West with a new law to ban gender change surgery.  It also annuls marriages where one person changed gender and bans trannies from adopting kids.

 

 

Apr 8, 2015 WNBA superstar Brittney Griner is taking a hard stand on the "Religious Freedom Restoration Act" in Indiana -- saying if the Women's Final 4 was in the Hoosier State, she would've BOYCOTTED. 

 

Here's an interesting sidebar to all this. Griner said nearly a decade ago that she wouldn't play in Indiana because of "laws " that she believed were anti-LGBT. However she was willing to play in Russia, where her annual salary was reported to be over a million dollars a year, but it was well known that Russia overall has some of the harshest laws against the LGBT community before what transpired recently. 

Think about that. We all know Griner's "personal price" on her "integrity"  She was also caught beating up her then pregnant former wife and had to be forced to pay child support. So Griner is also a domestic abuser and a deadbeat parent. 

And the person she was "traded for" because she was so arrogant to bring drugs into a country that she knew was hostile to LGBT's like her is Viktor Bout. Who is known for supplying weapons to terrorists organizations all over the world. One of Bout's "specialities" are MANPADs. Basically anti-aircraft missiles. Think about that the next time you or your children fly commercially anywhere in the US. Your odds of being blown out of the sky by terrorists increased exponentially (and that risk extends into the entire Western World) for a wife beating deadbeat who sold her integrity for a million bucks a year. Sold all her principles and dignity to play for a country that is downright brutal to anyone who is LGBT. 

And do you know where Bout will find his next huge supply of weapons? How about the billions of dollars in high tech armaments left behind by Joe Biden, paid for with your tax dollars. Do you know what happened to women in Afghanistan after the Americans left? They were abandoned to be war brides. As young as 11 years old in some cases. Do any of you have neighbors, friends, family or people you care about in the US military? Joe Biden just billed you to make it easier for terrorists to kill them with American weapons. Also if those terrorists attack America, Biden also billed you to make it easier for your children to die next. If you are a terrorist who hates America, wants to see it burn, wants "free guns" paid for with American tax dollars and wants to gang rape 11 year olds, then Joe Biden is your personal savior. 

I recognize some of the radical activists here will support Griner no matter what. My answer to that is think about Griner the next time you put your own children onto an airplane. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I dunno man we had some pretty good peace under Trump. Was able to keep Russia at bay, literally walked into North Korea. All of that changed almost immediately after he left office.

Not even you can deny that. But you probably will. The cat urine has destroyed your brain.

He didn't keep Russia at bay. Russia had it good under him, particularly considering he was making noise for us to pull out of NATO, which we need more than ever these says. Him licking North Korea's balls wasn't necessarily a good thing. 

What's keeping Russia at bay these days is arming the Ukrainians and sanctions. 

He was a worldwide embarrassment and a threat to our Democracy, and we're focked if he takes back the presidency. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He didn't keep Russia at bay. Russia had it good under him, particularly considering he was making noise for us to pull out of NATO, which we need more than ever these says. Him licking North Korea's balls wasn't necessarily a good thing. 

What's keeping Russia at bay these days is arming the Ukrainians and sanctions. 

He was a worldwide embarrassment and a threat to our Democracy, and we're focked if he takes back the presidency. 

 

We don't need to be in NATO. We can then decide to help European countries that get invaded or to not help them or to delay getting involved until we're ready or feel we need to. NATO countries aren't protecting the US, it's the other way around. Why should we be in NATO and be predestined to protect? As a deterrent to an attack on Europe I guess.

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3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The problem you have is all you're doing is making guesses and assumptions.  You have no idea what would've happened.  If you go by history, those making the case that Putin wouldn't have invaded have a MUCH stronger case than you do.

What are the guesses and assumptions. It is a fact that we made military blunders in the past. These do not justify Russian aggression with Ukraine. 

By that logic, we could justifiably go kick ass on some country that's ever started a war because Russia started one with Ukraine.

What Russia did should not be tolerated in the modern world. And if you a Russian victory wouldn't have significant on the United States and the world, you're a bigger idiot than I ever imagined.

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Just now, Gepetto said:

We don't need to be in NATO. We can then decide to help European countries that get invaded or to not help them or to delay getting involved until we're ready or feel we need to. NATO countries aren't protecting the US, it's the other way around.

This mindset did not work prior to World War I or World War II. Feel free to prove me wrong. 

Planet stability is a good thing.

History is doomed to repeat itself with this stupid American isolationist mindset.

It just leads to a bigger problem that forces us to get involve and lose more American lives. 

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3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

What are the guesses and assumptions. It is a fact that we made military blunders in the past. These do not justify Russian aggression with Ukraine. 

By that logic, we could justifiably go kick ass on some country that's ever started a war because Russia started one with Ukraine.

What Russia did should not be tolerated in the modern world. And if you a Russian victory wouldn't have significant on the United States and the world, you're a bigger idiot than I ever imagined.

We didn’t tolerate Russian missiles in Cuba. Why would Putin tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine? He would be a fool to allow that. 

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5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This mindset did not work prior to World War I or World War II. Feel free to prove me wrong. 

Planet stability is a good thing.

History is doomed to repeat itself with this stupid American isolationist mindset.

It just leads to a bigger problem that forces us to get involve and lose more American lives. 

Yeah. Korea, Vietnam and Iraq/ Afghanistan worked out well for us. And even better for the people of Libya after we destabilized that. It’s so great there now the ones that can get on a raft to get the Fock out of there. Beats slavery.  

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We didn’t tolerate Russian missiles in Cuba. Why would Putin tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine? He would be a fool to allow that. 

Who said we're putting missiles in Ukraine? Ukraine in its agreement with Russia gave up its nukes in exchange for Russia leaving them alone, and Russia has broken that agreement twice now. 

You're getting way ahead of yourself on that one. 

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Who said we're putting missiles in Ukraine? Ukraine in its agreement with Russia gave up its nukes in exchange for Russia leaving them alone, and Russia has broken that agreement twice now. 

You're getting way ahead of yourself on that one. 

Oh, that was the only part of the agreement. The west didn’t promise anything.  So if NATO did put missiles in Ukraine, would Putin then be justified? 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. Korea, Vietnam and Iraq/ Afghanistan worked out well for us. And even better for the people of Libya after we destabilized that. It’s so great there now the ones that can get on a raft to get the Fock out if there. Beats slavery.  

More MAGAturd logic saying two wrongs make a right. One country's military blunder does not justify another country's unrelated aggression. Why is this so hard for the MAGAturd mind to process.

Also only six out of 30 NATO countries have nuclear weapons, so that blows your whole Ukraine-missile assertion to tiny bits.

Pimpadeaux wins again!

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9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, that was the only part of the agreement. The west didn’t promise anything.  So if NATO did put missiles in Ukraine, would Putin then be justified? 

Oh yes it did, dumbass. The agreement says the West would get involved if Russia invaded Ukraine. You should actually read something instead of relying on the cobweb-covered corner of your brain that generates misinformation. You're making a huge stretch assuming the United States would put nukes in Urkaine if it joins NATO, despite only 20 percent of NATO countries having nukes.

Sure, if Ukraine joins NATO and we put nukes there, I would understand why Putin would have an issue with this, but I seriously doubt that's going to happen. Why would we need nukes there when we can nuke Russia from Nebraska or wherever it is we have silos and long-range bombers.

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The Budapest Memorandum consists of a series of political assurances whereby the signatory states commit to “respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine”. But the meaning of the security assurances was deliberately left ambiguous. According to a former US diplomat who participated in the talks, Steven Pifer, it was understood that if there was a violation, there would be a response incumbent on the US and the UK. And while that response was not explicitly defined, Pifer notes that: “there is an obligation on the United States that flows from the Budapest Memorandum to provide assistance to Ukraine, and […] that would include lethal military assistance”.

 

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8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Oh yes it did, dumbass. The agreement says the West would get involved if Russia invaded Ukraine. You should actually read something instead of relying on the cobweb-covered corner of your brain that generates misinformation.

So there was never an agreement of no eastward expansion of NATO? That didn’t happen?

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So there was never an agreement of no eastward expansion of NATO? That didn’t happen?

Go read something and provide links to support whatever dumbassery you're theorizing about through MAGAturd lenses.

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11 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Go read something and provide links to support whatever dumbassery you're theorizing about through MAGAturd lenses.

We can start with the Helsinki Accords. Also, why did Putin invade Ukraine? 

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18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We can start with the Helsinki Accords. Also, why did Putin invade Ukraine? 

To get to the other side.

POW! VEAL!

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