Pats fan murdered in stands by Fins fan

[Ultra Max Power 214]

Pro football and basketball games are rough to take a family to.  The college atmosphere is way better in that regard.  

[frank 2,276]

2 hours ago, kutulu said:

Damn, that is better. 
 

There’s nothing I can do.

[Baker Boy 1,687]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

dumb - the patriots had no Monday night games for 20+ years because of drinking all day and stadium violence. Was that also cause of lockdowns?

I  am talking about the increased violence across the country but you already knew that.

[HellToupee 1,583]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

dumb - the patriots had no Monday night games for 20+ years because of drinking all day and stadium violence. Was that also cause of lockdowns?

From 81-95 . They sucked and the stadium was legendary bad. The town of foxboro blocked night games but everything was honky dory when Krafty Bob bought the team

[HellToupee 1,583]

Patriots fans at Gillette are mouthy after years of winning. Really insufferable bunch , like a stadium full of timschochet’s

[Hardcore troubadour 14,911]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Patriots fans at Gillette are mouthy after years of winning. Really insufferable bunch , like a stadium full of timschochet’s

True.  I was there at the old place December 1990. They were fun to go back and forth with. Lots of shitt talking by both sides. No punches thrown. Now they are easily offended. 

[dain11279 963]

3 hours ago, frank said:

The Dolphins make me cry. 

You’re such a baby

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

He probably had COVID and unloaded an entire tube of Ivermectin into his poophole so he could be miraculously cured and get to the game. Thank god for feedstores open on Sundays. 

[wiffleball 4,788]

Yeah, end of the day? I don't care how much of a jackass the guy is, you don't beat the guy in front of his child.  

 

Argue that. 

[SUXBNME 1,454]

5 hours ago, wiffleball said:

I bet that dolphin fan did it on porpoise.

The media will flipper it to fit their narrative 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

34 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

The media will flipper it to fit their narrative 

You gotta be squidding me.

 

[SUXBNME 1,454]

37 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You gotta be squidding me.

 

Go octupi wall street or summfin, you loser

[wiffleball 4,788]

A lot of people don't realize that in North America, there are no true dolphins.  

 

 

They're actually known as Bison. 

[SUXBNME 1,454]

1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Yeah, end of the day? I don't care how much of a jackass the guy is, you don't beat the guy in front of his child.  

 

Argue that. 

Argue accepted. 

If dood was threatening his child then beating up the guy could possibly save his child from a life of pussydome.  You know. Mebbe teach the child about how respect is earned, not given? 

On the flip side, it just might turn the child into an obnoxious bully with the attitude that all problems in life can be solved by violence.  
Depends on this particular Dad, I suppose. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

Side note: the Norfolk county corrupt DA has been rumored to be a target of a FBI investigation 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Side note: the Norfolk county corrupt DA has been rumored to be a target of a FBI investigation 

Well he was definitely assaulted, right? Seems like that should be charged unless it was very clearly actual self defense or something.

Now whether you can tie the death to it is a different thing. Though it seems mighty fortuitous that he just so randomly happened to have a heart attack or aneurysm or whatever at the very exact moment he was punched in the face, without the two being connected at all  

[Mufaletta 70]

18 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He probably had COVID and unloaded an entire tube of Ivermectin into his poophole so he could be miraculously cured and get to the game. Thank god for feedstores open on Sundays. 

Guy is beaten to death and this is your comment?

[RogerDodger 797]

12 minutes ago, Mufaletta said:

Guy is beaten to death and this is your comment?

There is no defending Rusty's idiotic comments.

But.  Nobody was beaten to death.

[RogerDodger 797]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Well he was definitely assaulted, right?

No. One eyewitness has it that he walked into a group of Miami fans and grabbed someone first.  You can't instigate a fight and then claim assault.

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Joseph Kilmartin, another fan who witnessed the incident, described it as a violent confrontation toward the end of the fourth quarter of the game between the Patriots and the Dolphins.

Video Kilmartin recorded shows Dale Mooney as he approaches a group of fans on the 300-level of the stadium.

"He basically grabbed another fan," Kilmartin said. "They started tussling around for a few minutes. At one point, another fan walked over. He punched him ... and the man just went out. It was pretty hard to watch."

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

No. One eyewitness has it that he walked into a group of Miami fans and grabbed someone first.  You can't instigate a fight and then claim assault.

 

If another fan walked over to him and sucker punched him, that's assault, Judge Judy.

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

If another fan walked over to him and sucker punched him, that's assault, Judge Judy.

Learn to read idiot.

4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

No. One eyewitness has it that he walked into a group of Miami fans and grabbed someone first.  You can't instigate a fight and then claim assault.

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

Learn to read idiot.

 

Learn to read yourself, fock face.

 

another fan walked over. He punched him ... and the man just went out.

 

Assault.

[RogerDodger 797]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Learn to read yourself, fock face.

 

another fan walked over. He punched him ... and the man just went out.

 

Assault.

So your lack of masculinity effeminate view is if you walk into a group of opposing fans, reach up and attack the shortest one, and if any of the midsize midget's friends help him against your attack they've assaulted you. That's some real tiny brain retard logic.  

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,911]

19 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He probably had COVID and unloaded an entire tube of Ivermectin into his poophole so he could be miraculously cured and get to the game. Thank god for feedstores open on Sundays. 

You wished rape ! 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

So your lack of masculinity effeminate view is if you walk into a group of opposing fans, reach up and attack the shortest one, and if any of the midsize midget's friends help him against your attack they've assaulted you. That's some real tiny brain retard logic.  

 

 

Well that's not what happened according to all reports.  We'll see what the investigation concludes.

It's no surprise that you immediately want to blame the dead guy for getting sucker punched.

[HellToupee 1,583]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You wished rape ! 

 Has to be a low-life 

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well that's not what happened according to all reports.  We'll see what the investigation concludes.

It's no surprise that you immediately want to blame the dead guy for getting sucker punched.

Link to me assigning blame to anyone.  As apposed to the "beaten to death" thread title.   

Holy fok tiny brain with a 3rd grade reading comprehension. 

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

32 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

No. One eyewitness has it that he walked into a group of Miami fans and grabbed someone first.  You can't instigate a fight and then claim assault.

 

And if that someone he grabbed hit him back, things could be different.

But if some other guy took it upon himself to walk over and sucker punch him, that’s probably assault.

Of course we can’t be sure what actually happened and that’ll all need to be sorted out. I just hope they look a little further than “well the m.e. said it was a medical event so golly gee I guess there’s nothing to see here”

[GutterBoy 2,898]

3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Link to me assigning blame to anyone.  As apposed to the "beaten to death" thread title.   

Holy fok tiny brain with a 3rd grade reading comprehension. 

 

Well yesterday you said he wasn't beaten, he had a heart attack.

Today you're saying he wasn't even assaulted because he grabbed another person first and you can't be assaulted by anyone once you grab another person.

Then you went on a tirade about how I'm effeminate.

It's clear whose side you're on.

[RogerDodger 797]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

And if that someone he grabbed hit him back, things could be different.

But if some other guy took it upon himself to walk over and sucker punch him, that’s probably assault.

Of course we can’t be sure what actually happened and that’ll all need to be sorted out. I just hope they look a little further than “well the m.e. said it was a medical event so golly gee I guess there’s nothing to see here”

It depends on a lot of the events that they'll likely never to be able to prove, but, Mass laws don't prohibit friends helping other friends that might be in danger:

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In Massachusetts, the basic law is this: if a person believes himself or another party to be in immediate danger, they have the right to defend himself (or the other party) against the danger after certain steps are taken. 

When it comes down to fighting in the crowded stands I don't see much being done if Mooney turns out to be the instigator.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

The Massachusetts Self Defense Law

In Massachusetts, the basic law is this: if a person believes himself or another party to be in immediate danger, they have the right to defend himself (or the other party) against the danger after certain steps are taken. The law requires that that before you attack another party, you:

• Must reasonably believe that you are being attacked or about to be attacked and that your safety is in immediate danger;
• Must do everything reasonable in the circumstances to avoid using force, such as attempting to retreat; and
• May not use force that is more than is reasonably necessary to defend yourself.

By this standard, a person in a bar who is accused of assault and battery cannot claim self defense based only on the grounds that the other party came at them first unless they can prove that they did everything possible to avoid force and physical contact first, and that they did not use more force than necessary in their defense.

[RogerDodger 797]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Today you're saying he wasn't even assaulted because he grabbed another person first and you can't be assaulted by anyone once you grab another person.

That's what you think I said?  Tiny brain on full display. 

You can argue who grabbed who first and if the punch was a sucker punch or in self defense all you want.  Facts are he wasn't beaten to death.

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preliminary autopsy results do not suggest the man suffered a traumatic injury

Odds are in favor of a heart attack, because you've already been proven wrong.. 

[RogerDodger 797]

Update on the odds now that traumatic injury, aka murder, has been ruled out:

Heart Attack/Stroke - 99%

Something Else - 1%

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

On 9/19/2023 at 8:11 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

He probably had COVID and unloaded an entire tube of Ivermectin into his poophole so he could be miraculously cured and get to the game. Thank god for feedstores open on Sundays. 

This has so much to process.....lol.  

[TimHauck 2,598]

24 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Update on the odds now that traumatic injury, aka murder, has been ruled out:

Heart Attack/Stroke - 99%

Something Else - 1%

 

Not surprised, but not sure you understand the definition of "preliminary" and "suggests"

[lod001 1,344]

On 9/19/2023 at 2:43 PM, lickin_starfish said:

So Timmy was right. The clotshot did it.

Incredible. The idiot was trying to be sarcastic and he's actually right for once in his life. 

[TimHauck 2,598]

8 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Incredible. The idiot was trying to be sarcastic and he's actually right for once in his life. 

Says the guy blaming a vaccine for a 53 year old overweight dude possibly having a heart attack immediately after getting punched