War in Israel

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2 minutes ago, HotRod said:

I like my women so pale they glow in the dark.

Like Irish chicks or Finnish girls, or Chernobyl girls?  

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Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Like Irish chicks or Finnish girls, or Chernobyl girls?  

all of the above.  Bonus points for chernobyl girls because they will be skinny and have summer teeth.

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Just now, HotRod said:

all of the above.  Bonus points for chernobyl girls because they will be skinny and have summer teeth.

And if they have gills, so much the better.

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No one hurt so that’s good.

I wish Netanyahu would calm the fock down. It’s been a focking year, bro

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2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No one hurt so that’s good.

I wish Netanyahu would calm the down. It’s been a focking year, bro

You wish Netanyahu would calm down killing terrorists that claim they want Israel wiped off the map?  Lol.   Thats so very...uh Liberal of you. 

What is America's response if they had a county like Iran having proxies toss missiles at them and raiding the country and torturing hundreds of hostages?   Um we would be drilling these groups relentlessly.  

Why are our strikes over then years on ME countries ok.  Yet a country that sits over there should chill?  

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

 

What is America's response if they had a county like Iran having proxies toss missiles at them and raiding the country and torturing hundreds of hostages?  

That’s easy. We would bomb the crap out of the country, invade, spend trillions of dollars, lose thousands of military, occupy the place for 20 years, and then leave having accomplished absolutely nothing and the folks we kicked out in the first place would be right back in charge. 

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15 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No one hurt so that’s good.

I wish Netanyahu would calm the fock down. It’s been a focking year, bro

Yeah, and that war monger Zelensky too!!!!   He's been at it for like 2 years!!!!   What are those aholes thinking?

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14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No one hurt so that’s good.

I wish Netanyahu would calm the fock down. It’s been a focking year, bro

Honestly, I feel the opposite.  I am not hating Israel flexing their muscles.  They have done significant damage to Hezbollah, Hamas.   Are they dead? No, probably won't be.  Are they scared?  You bet they are.   I'm tired of these terrorist organizations attacking without warning, raping and killing and bombing innocents, then leaning on the international community to force some lame cease fire so they can reload and do it again.

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

This is bad. This is very very bad. 

Nonsense.  Iran is proving to be a paper tiger.  Their entire leverage in negotiations is that they had big bad Hezbollah aiming it's awesome arsenal at Israel.  How'd that turn out?  Hamas, more or less done as well.  Houthis, when they get around to it.  

Israel has already shown Iran that they can get in and kill anyone they want, and that they have missiles that Iran can't even see.  Iran will be extremely luckily if Israel does not destroy all of their airfields and nuclear sites.

Israel has been preparing for 20 years for this.  It's time.

As I said yesterday, the best way to end a war is to win the war.  Decisively.  Thankfully, Netanyahu has stopped asking the US for permission and has decided to just ask.  If the US leaders had two collective brain cells to rub together, they would see this as the opportunity to finish Iran and help Israel, like allies should.  But they probably won't.  Can't upset that pro-terrorist voting block and all. 

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s easy. We would bomb the crap out of the country, invade, spend trillions of dollars, lose thousands of military, occupy the place for 20 years, and then leave having accomplished absolutely nothing and the folks we kicked out in the first place would be right back in charge. 

Right.  And everyone was down with it until lies were told and we extended a stay.  

But any president in the WH would respond.  Hard and fast.  

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Nonsense.  Iran is proving to be a paper tiger.  Their entire leverage in negotiations is that they had big bad Hezbollah aiming it's awesome arsenal at Israel.  How'd that turn out?  Hamas, more or less done as well.  Houthis, when they get around to it.  

Israel has already shown Iran that they can get in and kill anyone they want, and that they have missiles that Iran can't even see.  Iran will be extremely luckily if Israel does not destroy all of their airfields and nuclear sites.

Israel has been preparing for 20 years for this.  It's time.

As I said yesterday, the best way to end a war is to win the war.  Decisively.  Thankfully, Netanyahu has stopped asking the US for permission and has decided to just ask.  If the US leaders had two collective brain cells to rub together, they would see this as the opportunity to finish Iran and help Israel, like allies should.  But they probably won't.  Can't upset that pro-terrorist voting block and all. 

Again I offer you the analogy of Vietnam though you refuse to take it. Israel cannot win this war. They can win battles. But the battles they win only enmesh them more and may in the long run make things even worse. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Again I offer you the analogy of Vietnam though you refuse to take it. Israel cannot win this war. They can win battles. But the battles they win only enmesh them more and may in the long run make things even worse. 

Your analogy is ridiculous. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again I offer you the analogy of Vietnam though you refuse to take it. Israel cannot win this war. They can win battles. But the battles they win only enmesh them more and may in the long run make things even worse. 

Worse than their enemies' pledge to exterminate them, or at least to exterminate the State of Israel?  Hard for me to imagine how, but that may simply be my failure of imagination.  Perhaps you would like to share some thoughts on how it could get worse for Israel.

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22 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

You wish Netanyahu would calm down killing terrorists that claim they want Israel wiped off the map?  Lol.   Thats so very...uh Liberal of you. 

What is America's response if they had a county like Iran having proxies toss missiles at them and raiding the country and torturing hundreds of hostages?   Um we would be drilling these groups relentlessly.  

Why are our strikes over then years on ME countries ok.  Yet a country that sits over there should chill?  

Obviously Israel needs to defend itself but the whole region is a powder keg and Netanyahu is tossing matches everywhere. He’s unhinged 

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2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Obviously Israel needs to defend itself but the whole region is a powder keg and Netanyahu is tossing matches everywhere. He’s unhinged 

He's responding to each provocation.  He's not initiating these exchanges.

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Worms says:

“I wish Netanyahu would calm the fock down. It’s been a focking year, bro”

I say to worms:  “Your’re   so focking  stupid.  Your vote for Joe is the reason this is happening.  If Trump had been elected this wouldn’t have even happened.  Dumb democrats like yourself are gonna get us into world war 3.”

 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Worse than their enemies' pledge to exterminate them, or at least to exterminate the State of Israel?  Hard for me to imagine how, but that may simply be my failure of imagination.  Perhaps you would like to share some thoughts on how it could get worse for Israel.

Right now the vast majority of Israelis live their lives the way that Americans do: you go to work, you pick up your kids from school, you get home at night, you can relax, have fun on weekends, etc. The vast majority have not had their lives interrupted by terrorism. The vast majority can afford to live comfortably and safely. 
 

This is not the way it was during the first 30 years or so of Israel’s existence. Back then, in the 50s and 60s, inflation was terrible- up to 30% every year. Overcrowding was terrible. Unemployment was awful. And war constantly threatening- not missiles or terrorism but actual war with armies invading supported by the Soviet Union. No allies in Egypt or Jordan. Very little help from the United States. 
 

So yes it could get far worse. Let me offer a very real possibility- Jordan, which has a peace treaty with Israel is filled with Palestinian refugees (and in actuality the Jordanians are Palestinians themselves). The king is overthrown by a group sympathetic  to Hamas and Hezbollah, giving the Israels 3 hostile fronts instead of two. Then Egypt also becomes hostile giving Israel 4 hostile fronts. Then Syria becomes an active enemy again giving Israel 5 fronts. Then the radicals in Saudi Arabia rise up and overthrow their government, which would force the USA to return heavy to the Middle East. 
 

Get worse? Oh focking yeah it could. 

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12 minutes ago, Strike said:

He's responding to each provocation.  He's not initiating these exchanges.

This ain’t close to being true. 

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31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again I offer you the analogy of Vietnam though you refuse to take it. Israel cannot win this war. They can win battles. But the battles they win only enmesh them more and may in the long run make things even worse. 

This is nothing like Vietnam.  Israel will destroy, not try a slow land invasion.

And if we had those two collective brain cells I mentioned, we'd help them finish the job.  But we won't, because of pandering to our pro-terrorist voting block.  Which you don't seem to want to address.

I find your last sentence so... I won't say it, in the interest of politeness.  Instead, please help me understand how it's worse in the long run to destroy Iran and it's proxies than to sit there having bombs lobbed into your country on a daily basis.   

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18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then the radicals in Saudi Arabia rise up and overthrow their government

Zero chance this could happen even if Harris is elected. I think we would defend Saudi just as much or more Ben more than Israel, imo

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I understand its chess not checkers. 

But liberal response to this stuff is always....cover your ears and eyes and hope the opposition goes away.  It would be the same if we here had to go to war.  I wouldnt want them in my bunker.  

Biden had a chance to use diplomacy and just the good old fashioned strongarm of ths USA to do better at helping avoid these conflicts.  Whatever he tried, he is 0 for 2.  

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Is Iran really this weak and just full of hot air? Did they just put on a limp d1ck attack as a show to keep power . Are they afraid of being overthrown or are they trying to draw an attack from Israel

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47 minutes ago, BarneyFife said:

Worms says:

“I wish Netanyahu would calm the fock down. It’s been a focking year, bro”

I say to worms:  “Your’re   so focking  stupid.  Your vote for Joe is the reason this is happening.  If Trump had been elected this wouldn’t have even happened.  Dumb democrats like yourself are gonna get us into world war 3.”

 

 

I’m focking stupid but you don’t know how to work the quote function on 20 year old forum software?

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

31 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is nothing like Vietnam.  Israel will destroy, not try a slow land invasion.

And if we had those two collective brain cells I mentioned, we'd help them finish the job.  But we won't, because of pandering to our pro-terrorist voting block.  Which you don't seem to want to address.

I find your last sentence so... I won't say it, in the interest of politeness.  Instead, please help me understand how it's worse in the long run to destroy Iran and it's proxies than to sit there having bombs lobbed into your country on a daily basis.   

I already did. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

19 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I understand its chess not checkers. 

But liberal response to this stuff is always....cover your ears and eyes and hope the opposition goes away.  It would be the same if we here had to go to war.  I wouldnt want them in my bunker.  

Biden had a chance to use diplomacy and just the good old fashioned strongarm of ths USA to do better at helping avoid these conflicts.  Whatever he tried, he is 0 for 2.  

And in turn I find the conservative response to always be go in shooting and worry about it later on. Without fail you guys always want the most aggressive option. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And in turn I find the conservative response to always be go in shooting and worry about it later on. Without fail you guys always want the most aggressive option. 

Israel cant just sit and take terrorist threats and actions no matter how good their missile defense is.  There comes a point where enough is enough.  

Israel could have been way more aggressive way earlier.   What are you talking about.  Patience and tolerance can only go so far.  Guys like you would never get there.  Just huddle in a corner and hope it goes away.  Sad really.   

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I already did. 

You already did what?  Say how this is worse for Israel?  Because if they just sit there and take it up the ass without lube, that's going to make the terrorists more friendly? If you believe this, you have absolutely no understanding of what drives these terrorist groups, or what they respect.  Pro tip:  they don't respect weakness, they prey on it.

Or, it's going to make more young Palestinians, Lebanese, and Iranian boys hate them in future generations?  The problem with this is that this war has been the most surgically precise in the history of war.  I'm trying to imagine this scenario.  I'm a young boy in Lebanon, and my parents are raising me to hate Hezbollah and crave freedom.  Then I watch Hezbollah bomb Israel for a year, and finally Israel takes out... Hezbollah and virtually nothing else out.  Am I not happy about this?  In your model, this young boy says "dadblammit, I was hoping to go to college and work towards capitalism, but now I'm going to join Hezbollah!"

Think it through.

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3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Israel cant just sit and take terrorist threats and actions no matter how good their missile defense is.  There comes a point where enough is enough.  

Israel could have been way more aggressive way earlier.   What are you talking about.  Patience and tolerance can only go so far.  Guys like you would never get there.  Just huddle in a corner and hope it goes away.  Sad really.   

The thing about the Left is, any response against a group they consider higher (worse off) on their intersectionality cheat sheet is unacceptable.  These poor groups are disenfranchised by the bad white Jews (even though ethnically, they are all pretty intertwined) and must be allowed to do whatever they want.

It was the same attitude during the Summer of Love riots.  

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The thing about the Left is, any response against a group they consider higher (worse off) on their intersectionality cheat sheet is unacceptable.  These poor groups are disenfranchised by the bad white Jews (even though ethnically, they are all pretty intertwined) and must be allowed to do whatever they want.

It was the same attitude during the Summer of Love riots.  

Oh of course.  They will always side with what makes them look sympathetic.   Even if the side they back are the ones asking for it.  Its all virtue points with I will say most not all Libs.  

There is no good solution in the ME.  But I do know if most countries were surrounded by crazy groups on all sides...their patience would run very thin if they are able to do something about it.  

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22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And in turn I find the conservative response to always be go in shooting and worry about it later on. Without fail you guys always want the most aggressive option. 

Also to add, its not agreesion for Libs.  Well I guess depends what we are talking about.  But they sure dont mind watching people get killed in wars every day. Hey its not our guys!  Who cares!

They generally think war is a silly little game.  Like anything else that isnt on their doorstep.  

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5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Oh of course.  They will always side with what makes them look sympathetic.   Even if the side they back are the ones asking for it.  Its all virtue points with I will say most not all Libs.  

There is no good solution in the ME.  But I do know if most countries were surrounded by crazy groups on all sides...their patience would run very thin if they are able to do something about it.  

I'm not sure the bolded is true.  Lots of countries don't like Iran and their proxies, some might argue the majority of countries.  UAE, Bahrain (already did Abraham Accords).  Saudi, Egypt, Jordan (although they'd never admit it) as well. 

This is a unique opportunity to stomp out Iran and its proxies, and let the cooler heads of countries like the above take leadership.

This is the only way, for instance, a two-state solution is remotely possible.  Kamala keeps saying the words "two-state solution" because it sounds so darn good, but it ignores the cold hard fact that Hamas time and again has rebuffed it, and will never agree to it in the future, no matter how much "talks" and "negotiation" goes on.  Such talks being a joke of course:  who are they negotiating with?  Israel has killed most of the leadership.

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And in turn I find the conservative response to always be go in shooting and worry about it later on. Without fail you guys always want the most aggressive option. 

So long as the Palestinians & Iran refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist & want their total annihilation, Israel can do nothing to placate them.  Nothing, nothing, nothing.   If you can admit the truth in the previous you will realize that nothing short of violence will work.  The Palestinians do not want a two state solution.  They want Israel & its people gone into dust.

your fancy, dancy rhetoric is just that.  fancy, dandy unfounded liberal rhetoric with no basis in fact.  just some feel good words to make you feel better.  you have no solutions.  Only the genocide Jew hater countries have a solution & it does not involve peace.

these are the despicable irreputable facts.  

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Netanyahu's statement after Iran's unprovoked attack:

 

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Citizens of Israel, at the start of my remarks, I send condolences to the families of those who were murdered in the abhorrent terrorist attack in Jaffa and my best wishes for a quick recovery to the wounded.

As in the missile attack, there was also a murderous guiding hand behind this terrorist attack – it came from Tehran.

This evening, Iran again attacked Israel with hundreds of missiles. This attack failed. It was thwarted thanks to Israel’s air defense array, which is the most advanced in the world. I commend the IDF for the impressive achievement. It was also thwarted thanks to your alertness and responsibility, citizens of Israel. I also thank the US for its support in our defensive effort.

This evening, Iran made a big mistake – and it will pay for it. The regime in Tehran does not understand our determination to defend ourselves and to exact a price from our enemies.

Sinwar and Deif did not understand this; neither did Nasrallah or Mohsen. Apparently, there are those in Tehran who do not understand this either.

They will.

We will keep to the rule we have determined: Whoever attacks us – we attack them.

This is true wherever we fight the axis of evil. It is true in Judea and Samaria. It is true in Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen and Syria – and it is also true in Iran. We are fighting the axis of evil everywhere, including in southern Lebanon and Gaza, where our heroic soldiers are active.

Today, more than ever, the forces of light in the world must unite and work together against the ayatollahs’ dark regime, which is the source of terror and evil in our region. They must stand alongside Israel. The choice has never been more clear, between tyranny and freedom, between the blessing and the curse.

On the eve of Rosh Hashanah, I say to you, citizens of Israel: Israel has the momentum and the axis of evil is in retreat. We will do whatever needs to be done to continue this trend. To achieve all of our war objectives, especially the return of all of our hostages, and ensure our existence and our future.

A good and safe year to you all.

 

 

I would not want to be a higher up in Iran's government right now. 

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Obviously Israel needs to defend itself but the whole region is a powder keg and Netanyahu is tossing matches everywhere. He’s unhinged 

Once again you’re showing your stupidity.  Should NEVER take your foot off the throat of an enemy that vows to annihilate you.  Once again you’re too stupid to understand.

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9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Netanyahu's statement after Iran's unprovoked attack:

 

 

 

I would not want to be a higher up in Iran's government right now. 

What a bad ass response!  A true leader.  Lefties like @The Real timschochetwould have responded with "please Iran, don't send more ineffective bombs at us, let us send you several billions of dollars to fund your continued nuclear development!" 

Pathetic

Also, I agree with your last sentence.  I can only see two scenarios in which Iran did this:

1. They honestly think they are stronger than they are, or

2. They hope Biden/Harris will step in and be the poosay in hopes of buying pro-terrorist votes for the election.  But Israel doesn't seem to care at this point.

Doesn't look good for Iran.  Which is awesome.   

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KJP spouting lie after lie when called out on Iran:

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REPORTER: "And so Iran, we've all seen obviously what happened today, and we also have an active plot to assassinate one of the candidates in the U.S. election, which could be seen as a direct attempt at election interference. Is there any talk of consequences for Iran in terms of limiting their revenue, going after their oil exports."

KJP: "Look, you heard (National Security Advisor) Jake (Sullivan) speak to this on what... there will be consequences, you heard Jake say this, this is an ongoing situation, that's the reason he had to get back to his desk, to make sure that he continues to monitor what's happening, occurring, having conversations with his counterparts as well, in Israel. But this administration has not lifted a single sanction on Iran, we cannot forget that. Rather, we continue to increase pressure, that's what we have seen. Our extensive sanctions on Iran remain in place and we will certainly continue to enforce them, and you heard from the national security advisor, you heard what he said."

 

Disgusting.

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It’s almost as if Harris/ Biden/ Obama had to undo the progress that Trump had made in the Middle East. 

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

And in turn I find the conservative response to always be go in shooting and worry about it later on. Without fail you guys always want the most aggressive option. 

What are Biden and Harris doing to end this War? 

The correct answer is nothing. 

What are Biden and Harris doing to end the Ukraine War?

The correct answer is nothing. 

You're voting for nothing. Congratulations, you're a genius.