The safest and most secure election in the history of American politics

[TimHauck 2,872]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Are you saying there were official investigations of the fraud claims in 2020?

Yes

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/arizona-republicans-release-findings-widely-panned-election-audit-2021-09-24/

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

42 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/arizona-republicans-release-findings-widely-panned-election-audit-2021-09-24/

LOL, from the article... the so-called "full forensic audit".

They didn't "investigate" anything, they reviewed the results.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

On 11/1/2023 at 1:22 PM, Baker Boy said:

Don’t be afraid to see what you see
 

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see

Brilliant line, brilliantly appropriated.  Love it!  

[Dizkneelande 1,100]

To recap-  

So when Democrats are running against each other for office in a one-party town they engage in widespread election fraud involving fraudulent ballots and ballot-box stuffing.

But when they run in contested elections against GOP candidates, all the ballots are from bona fide legitimate and registered voters, and are counted strictly in accordance with the law.

[seafoam1 3,023]

8 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

To recap-  

So when Democrats are running against each other for office in a one-party town they engage in widespread election fraud involving fraudulent ballots and ballot-box stuffing.

But when they run in contested elections against GOP candidates, all the ballots are from bona fide legitimate and registered voters, and are counted strictly in accordance with the law.

She explains it all right here. Nothing what they do or say matters leading up to the liberal elections. 

[Rabbit Range 51]

Damn some of you are such focking idiots. Weren't there 60-some court cases? Those were all thrown out on technicalities? SMH Giuliani saying they had theories just no evidence. Wasn't there also some movie made which turned out to being just bullshit. How about those election "ninjas" in AZ, what did they uncover and expose? Oh nothing at all because it was all bullshit. How about Trump declaring about a month ago that he was going to present the election evidence and get total exoneration? How did that work out for you? He decided at the last minute to wait and his lawyers would present the evidence in court....any day now I'm sure. lol

 

Trump lost the 2020 election and he lost it big. Should he be on the ballot in 2024, which I doubt, he will lose by A LOT more than last time. It would probably be historic. We're aware you're going to cry your b!tch asses a daily river, we're used to it. In the end, you'll have nothing but tears. When you line up behind a charlatan carny barker, this is what you end up with, a whole lot of nothing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

34 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

To recap-  

So when Democrats are running against each other for office in a one-party town they engage in widespread election fraud involving fraudulent ballots and ballot-box stuffing.

But when they run in contested elections against GOP candidates, all the ballots are from bona fide legitimate and registered voters, and are counted strictly in accordance with the law.

Yup. Funny there were no shenanigans where the democrats had it in the bag or no chance.  

[seafoam1 3,023]

7 minutes ago, Rabbit Range said:

Damn some of you are such focking idiots. Weren't there 60-some court cases? Those were all thrown out on technicalities? SMH Giuliani saying they had theories just no evidence. Wasn't there also some movie made which turned out to being just bullshit. How about those election "ninjas" in AZ, what did they uncover and expose? Oh nothing at all because it was all bullshit. How about Trump declaring about a month ago that he was going to present the election evidence and get total exoneration? How did that work out for you? He decided at the last minute to wait and his lawyers would present the evidence in court....any day now I'm sure. lol

 

Trump lost the 2020 election and he lost it big. Should he be on the ballot in 2024, which I doubt, he will lose by A LOT more than last time. It would probably be historic. We're aware you're going to cry your b!tch asses a daily river, we're used to it. In the end, you'll have nothing but tears. When you line up behind a charlatan carny barker, this is what you end up with, a whole lot of nothing. 

He "lost big" between midnight and 4am after the polls closed. He "lost big" in the 5 swing states after the poles closed.

He was ahead in all those states prior to midnight. But then got 0 votes after the truckloads of ballots for biden started rolling in after the polls were shut down. 

[Reality 3,121]

Anybody claiming this proves the system is infallible is a focking idiot. Once you clear that hurdle, you can move on to an actual conversation. You have to discount those idiots immediately.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

1 hour ago, Rabbit Range said:

Damn some of you are such focking idiots. Weren't there 60-some court cases? Those were all thrown out on technicalities? SMH Giuliani saying they had theories just no evidence. Wasn't there also some movie made which turned out to being just bullshit. How about those election "ninjas" in AZ, what did they uncover and expose? Oh nothing at all because it was all bullshit. How about Trump declaring about a month ago that he was going to present the election evidence and get total exoneration? How did that work out for you? He decided at the last minute to wait and his lawyers would present the evidence in court....any day now I'm sure. lol

 

Trump lost the 2020 election and he lost it big. Should he be on the ballot in 2024, which I doubt, he will lose by A LOT more than last time. It would probably be historic. We're aware you're going to cry your b!tch asses a daily river, we're used to it. In the end, you'll have nothing but tears. When you line up behind a charlatan carny barker, this is what you end up with, a whole lot of nothing. 

How much did he lose by?  

[League Champion 1,911]

It's NJ, would you expect anything less from a Democratic run Toilet? 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How much did he lose by?  

I'll answer that, since he is completely incapable of it.

Trump lost the 2020 election by 43,809 votes in 3 swing states:

• GA (12,670)
• Arizona (10,457)
• Wisconsin (20,682)

In an election where 155M votes were cast, that is 28 one-thousandths of 1% (0.028%).

So yeah, @Rabbit Range is the typical brainwashed, dumb-asss LeftTard who knows nothing about nothing.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,102]

Uh-oh, rabbit range the new James Daulton/Wade Garret/BeachGal?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

17 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I'll answer that, since he is completely incapable of it.

Trump lost the 2020 election by 43,809 votes in 3 swing states:

• GA (12,670)
• Arizona (10,457)
• Wisconsin (20,682)

In an election where 155M votes were cast, that is 28 one-thousandths of 1% (0.028%).

So yeah, @Rabbit Range is the typical brainwashed, dumb-asss LeftTard who knows nothing about nothing.

 

Thank you sir. Another libtard myth debunked.  

[Rabbit Range 51]

1 hour ago, Patented Phil said:

I'll answer that, since he is completely incapable of it.

 

LOL Why would  I be incapable of answering that, nevermind completely incapable? You dipshits always have to latch onto some false hope because you start from such a weak position. Here's your answer, Biden beat Trump 306-232. In 2016, Trump beat Clinton 304-227. Trump declared his victory at the time to be a landslide. If your daddy declared 2016 a landslide, what should we consider 2020? Maybe you can do some more "what if" math after 2024. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

19 minutes ago, Rabbit Range said:

LOL Why would  I be incapable of answering that, nevermind completely incapable? You dipshits always have to latch onto some false hope because you start from such a weak position. Here's your answer, Biden beat Trump 306-232. In 2016, Trump beat Clinton 304-227. Trump declared his victory at the time to be a landslide. If your daddy declared 2016 a landslide, what should we consider 2020? Maybe you can do some more "what if" math after 2024. 

Trump was wrong. So are you. Congratulations. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

26 minutes ago, Rabbit Range said:

LOL Why would  I be incapable of answering that, nevermind completely incapable? You dipshits always have to latch onto some false hope because you start from such a weak position. Here's your answer, Biden beat Trump 306-232. In 2016, Trump beat Clinton 304-227. Trump declared his victory at the time to be a landslide. If your daddy declared 2016 a landslide, what should we consider 2020? Maybe you can do some more "what if" math after 2024. 

You just answered your own question with the rest of your nonsensical drivel.  I don’t care if Trump said 2016 was a landslide.  He was just as much an idiot for saying that as you were in saying the same thing about 2020.

[Rabbit Range 51]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump was wrong. So are you. Congratulations. 

It's good for you to admit that your hero is occasionally wrong. That you mention Trump was wrong as well is great progress. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

7 minutes ago, Rabbit Range said:

It's good for you to admit that your hero is occasionally wrong. That you mention Trump was wrong as well is great progress. 

 Now do you. 

[League Champion 1,911]

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 minute ago, League Champion said:

 

Wait a minute.  You alt righties told us that courts can't do anything about rigged elections.  That's why Trump lost 60+ cases.

This is actually evidence of what we all know, Trump lost 2020 quite bigly, he's FOS, and you MAGAtards are sheep who believe anything your master says.

Thanks alt righties!

[League Champion 1,911]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Thanks alt righties!

Tell em BOYO!! 

[seafoam1 3,023]

4 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Wait a minute.  You alt righties told us that courts can't do anything about rigged elections.  That's why Trump lost 60+ cases.

This is actually evidence of what we all know, Trump lost 2020 quite bigly, he's FOS, and you MAGAtards are sheep who believe anything your master says.

Thanks alt righties!

poor wade. He thinks people read his shlt. Maybe next he'll post under mdcack alias and whine about being ronery. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

9 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Wait a minute.  You alt righties told us that courts can't do anything about rigged elections.  That's why Trump lost 60+ cases.

This is actually evidence of what we all know, Trump lost 2020 quite bigly, he's FOS, and you MAGAtards are sheep who believe anything your master says.

Thanks alt righties!

Trump didn't lose 60 cases, but good effort

 

[Nomad99 742]

17 hours ago, Rabbit Range said:

LOL Why would  I be incapable of answering that, nevermind completely incapable? You dipshits always have to latch onto some false hope because you start from such a weak position. Here's your answer, Biden beat Trump 306-232. In 2016, Trump beat Clinton 304-227. Trump declared his victory at the time to be a landslide. If your daddy declared 2016 a landslide, what should we consider 2020? Maybe you can do some more "what if" math after 2024. 

So, you follow Trump's lead.....interesting. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

23 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Uh-oh, rabbit range the new James Daulton/Wade Garret/BeachGal?

He's off to a really bad start. I'll give him a few more threads to see if he is capable of rational discussion elsewhere.

[League Champion 1,911]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

poor wade. He thinks people read his shlt. Maybe next he'll post under mdcack alias and whine about being ronery. 

What's hilarious is that you can tell it's Boyo, he writes like a Tard. 

[Cdub100 3,908]

 

[League Champion 1,911]

There's videos all over YouTube from security cameras catching ballot boxes being stuffed. They can't deny it. 

[Voltaire 5,316]

4 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

 

This is all so focking pathetic.

[Rabbit Range 51]

4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Trump didn't lose 60 cases, but good effort

 

Yes, he did and it takes no effort when facts and reality are on your side.

 

CLAIM: Former President Donald Trump has won two-thirds of 2020 election lawsuits that have been adjudicated by the courts.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The claim is based on a tally that does not include several lawsuits filed by Trump or his supporters that were dismissed by the courts or withdrawn by plaintiffs. It also includes many cases filed months before the Nov. 3 election, as well as some cases that do not directly relate to the presidential election. In about 60 lawsuits Trump’s legal team and Republican allies filed since the election, only one resulted in a small victory in Pennsylvania. None of the cases has proven the presence of fraud in the 2020 election.

THE FACTS: Social media users and conservative news websites are citing a skewed report to make the misleading claim that Trump is winning more election integrity lawsuits than he is losing.

“Trump is winning election lawsuits, in case you haven’t heard,” reads the headline of a blog post from the conservative news website LifeSiteNews. “Trump has won two-thirds of the cases that have been adjudicated by the courts.”

In a few days, the blog post was retweeted nearly 10,000 times and shared on Facebook more than 3,000 times, according to an analysis by VineSight, a tech company that tracks online misinformation.

 

 

In reality, while the Trump campaign and Republican allies did celebrate some legal victories related to election matters before November, no lawsuit filed by his campaign has proven fraud or overturned results in the presidential election, which Joe Biden won. When it comes to lawsuits filed since the election, Trump’s legal team has notched just one small victory, over the deadline to provide missing proof of identification for certain absentee ballots and mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania.

The LifeSiteNews article bases its claims on a report from John Droz Jr., a self-described physicist and environmental advocate who spent his career in real estate and whose activism has included rejecting the science of climate change.

The Associated Press took a closer look at the report to determine how it identifies wins and losses for Trump and his Republican allies.

The report claims Trump has won 15 of 22 election integrity lawsuits that were “decided on the merits” — in other words, lawsuits where a court heard arguments and issued a judgment.

To determine that number, the report lists 81 lawsuits from March to December 2020 that it claims were relevant to the Nov. 3 presidential election. Some lawsuits were filed by Trump’s campaign, some listed Trump as a defendant, and others were filed by Republican individuals and groups. The report links to the lawsuits in a database from the Healthy Elections Project, a project by Stanford University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

The report then categorizes these lawsuits, counting them as wins for Trump if the plaintiff was able to argue the case in front of a judge and the judge ruled in favor of Republicans. The report does not count cases dismissed by judges, ongoing cases or withdrawn cases as wins or losses for either side.

Election law experts told the AP this categorization is misleading because most of the wins it counts for Trump were filed before the election and dealt with what the rules around voting were going to be — things like absentee ballot deadlines and whether a secretary of state could send pre-populated absentee ballot applications.

Trump’s only significant post-election wins were in two Pennsylvania cases, one filed the month before the election and one filed the day after the election, according to Matt Cooper, assistant director at Ohio State University’s law library, who has been tracking significant post-election lawsuits in battleground states.

“In my judgment, the claims in the article and the source it links to are misleading,” Cooper told the AP in an email.

Some of the cases in the report are also wrongly coded as wins for Trump when they didn’t directly deal with the presidential election, according to Justin Levitt, a constitutional law professor at Loyola Law School.

For example, Ritchie v. Polis, filed in May in Colorado, dealt with whether petitions to put a measure on the ballot needed to be signed in the presence of a ballot circulator during the COVID-19 pandemic.

“Putting that one in the ‘Trump/GOP win’ column — while excluding literally hundreds of other pre-election cases on the conditions of the election process — seems like a very odd choice without particular rationale, and inflates the purported ‘win’ statistic,” Levitt said.

Rebecca Green, co-director of the Election Law Program, a joint project of the William & Mary Law School and the National Center for State Courts, underscored that none of the Trump campaign’s legal efforts convinced a single court to overturn an election outcome.

“It’s easy to tell when post-election challenges are successful because the litigation impacts the outcome,” Green said. “The Trump campaign had every opportunity to bring forward credible evidence of election irregularities. There is no way to turn its failure to do so into success.”

Droz told the AP his team’s report was trying to identify “all lawsuits related to the 2020 presidential election,” not just those related to Trump. He said he values transparency, and is open to updating the spreadsheet if errors arise or there are updates in cases.

“We have no claim on perfection, but we tried to do a fair representation,” he told the AP in an email. “I’m sure that reasonable people can disagree with the exact wording, but hopefully the thrust is on-point.”

Several social media users sharing the LifeSiteNews blog post this week suggested the report reveals that Trump is currently winning election lawsuits, or that he could still overturn the election results — both false conclusions with no basis in fact.

[Rabbit Range 51]

BTW, why the fock are we talking about Trump's 0-62-1 post election court record? It happened, it's a fact. This is called reality and it happened years ago. Shouldn't you Trumpers be more concerned with the court cases and rulings that are happening right now in real time? Then again scratch that, you don't want to know the truth. Probably best to go to your fantasy Father Trump safe space. You can pretend he taught AI the crossover or some other fantasy. That's got to be better than what's actually happening and dealing with the reality of it all.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

They know it was bullshit. All around. Election, media, courts, DOJ.  If they thought it was legit they would laugh and move on.  

[League Champion 1,911]

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

3 hours ago, Rabbit Range said:

BTW, why the fock are we talking about Trump's 0-62-1 post election court record? It happened, it's a fact. This is called reality and it happened years ago. Shouldn't you Trumpers be more concerned with the court cases and rulings that are happening right now in real time? Then again scratch that, you don't want to know the truth. Probably best to go to your fantasy Father Trump safe space. You can pretend he taught AI the crossover or some other fantasy. That's got to be better than what's actually happening and dealing with the reality of it all.  

Once again trump didn’t lose 60. But thank you for linking something that proved it. And Republican allies. You do understand what words mean. How many of those cases were filled by trump TDS boy?

to clarify. If I say I voted for trump and filed a lawsuit against the election that was dismissed would you say trump lost that?  Would it count for him

i said Trump. Only trump. Nobody else. So you’re a tard

[Rabbit Range 51]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Once again trump didn’t lose 60. But thank you for linking something that proved it. And Republican allies. You do understand what words mean. How many of those cases were filled by trump TDS boy?

to clarify. If I say I voted for trump and filed a lawsuit against the election that was dismissed would you say trump lost that?  Would it count for him

i said Trump. Only trump. Nobody else. So you’re a tard

Seriously? Just moving the ol' goalposts? That's not a good effort, very weak. Just Trump, huh? 0-62-1 and what are you claiming? He's not really 0-62, it's more like...what? 0-45? 0-50? What is your number there? I guess at least you're not disputing the zero, right? Zero wins and no evidence whatsoever. You are agreeing with that part, right? That he has zero wins and produced, to date, zero evidence? Btw, his one small win in Pa was later overturned. Sorry, history and reality don't agree with you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

81 million votes.  Lol. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

4 hours ago, Rabbit Range said:

Seriously? Just moving the ol' goalposts? That's not a good effort, very weak. Just Trump, huh? 0-62-1 and what are you claiming? He's not really 0-62, it's more like...what? 0-45? 0-50? What is your number there? I guess at least you're not disputing the zero, right? Zero wins and no evidence whatsoever. You are agreeing with that part, right? That he has zero wins and produced, to date, zero evidence? Btw, his one small win in Pa was later overturned. Sorry, history and reality don't agree with you. 

I never dispute anything but facts. And everything I have said is factually correct. You’re the one claiming something that didn’t happen

[TimHauck 2,872]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I never dispute anything but facts. 

Lol

[Dizkneelande 1,100]

PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona woman accused of illegally collecting early ballots in the 2020 primary election pleaded guilty Thursday in an agreement with state prosecutors that saw the more serious forgery and conspiracy charges dismissed and limited any potential for a lengthy prison sentence. 

Guillermina Fuentes, 66, could get probation for running what Arizona attorney general’s office investigators said was a sophisticated operation using her status as a well-known Democratic operative in the border city of San Luis to persuade voters to let her gather and in some cases fill out their ballots.

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-government-and-politics-conspiracy-election-2020-presidential-elections-4a22fd2a2b4851a62fff4f7bd8a1be50