Cruzer 1,995 Posted November 2, 2023 A true legend, will never be another like him....... And you ever want to laugh you ass off, watch this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 5 hours ago, jonmx said: He was pretty fragile when he made his last appearance. I am glad IU kind of patched things up for his last years. A bunch of limp-wristes leftist set him up and chased him out. I love Knight. But it was time to go. He couldn’t adapt and that is part of life and being an adult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Cruzer said: A true legend, will never be another like him....... And you ever want to laugh you ass off, watch this. I have seen all these. So great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted November 2, 2023 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: That is for sure. But the same is true for John Wooden and Coach K, and by all accounts, they weren’t a$$holes. Knight was. Knight also chose to campaign for Donald Trump, AFTER Trump’s racist and bigoted remarks against Mexican-Americans, blacks, women, and Muslims in 2016. Anyone who publicly campaigned for Donald Trump (and Knight was enthusiastic about it) deserves a whole lot of shame for that act alone. Posts like this make it easy to agree with cdub's worldview. Tim, you're a focking piece of sh1t . If you can't enter a thread without bringing up Donald Trump or making it political, then maybe you should spend a little more time with your fat, drunk wife and leave our forum. 3 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted November 2, 2023 9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: That is for sure. But the same is true for John Wooden and Coach K, and by all accounts, they weren’t a$$holes. Knight was. Knight also chose to campaign for Donald Trump, AFTER Trump’s racist and bigoted remarks against Mexican-Americans, blacks, women, and Muslims in 2016. Anyone who publicly campaigned for Donald Trump (and Knight was enthusiastic about it) deserves a whole lot of shame for that act alone. So you are not of a mind to extend a bit of grace to the recently deceased. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,855 Posted November 2, 2023 Dementia really took its toll on him the last few years. Great coach and taught a lot of life lessons and made a lot of men. He probably could not have coached the soft kids today with a transfer portals and the messed up NIL environment. Rest in power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Dementia really took its toll on him the last few years. Great coach and taught a lot of life lessons and made a lot of men. He probably could not have coached the soft kids today with a transfer portals and the messed up NIL environment. Rest in power. He absolutely couldn’t. Incapable of adapting and compromise. It’s what got him canned in disgrace from IU. Sad ending there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted November 2, 2023 When Bobby Knight cut a player that had a scholarship he let him keep his scholarship 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: When Bobby Knight cut a player that had a scholarship he let him keep his scholarship Many, many stories like this about him. Did many things without any fanfare or self promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeachGuy23 642 Posted November 2, 2023 RIP Coach Knight 3x NCAA champion as a coach and 1x as a player at Ohio State playing alongside Hondo and Jerry Lucas. Simply a phenomenal coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,149 Posted November 2, 2023 I hope he just laid there and enjoyed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 2, 2023 6 hours ago, bostonlager said: Posts like this make it easy to agree with cdub's worldview. Tim, you're a focking piece of sh1t . If you can't enter a thread without bringing up Donald Trump or making it political, then maybe you should spend a little more time with your fat, drunk wife and leave our forum. I agree the Trump reference was highly unnecessary, but I’d say the “focking piece of sh1t” is the guy attacking another poster’s family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,757 Posted November 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: So you are not of a mind to extend a bit of grace to the recently deceased. He wasn’t a terrible man. But he wasn’t a great guy either. At least not as a public figure. He may have been a wonderful guy personally and therefore I’m sorry for his family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,757 Posted November 2, 2023 6 hours ago, bostonlager said: Posts like this make it easy to agree with cdub's worldview. Tim, you're a focking piece of sh1t . If you can't enter a thread without bringing up Donald Trump or making it political, then maybe you should spend a little more time with your fat, drunk wife and leave our forum. Cdub’s worldview is that the Jews are behind everything bad and the Holocaust never happened. If my truthful post about Knight makes that easier for you to believe, then I would suggest that you have designated the wrong piece of sh!t in this discussion, and should really look in the mirror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted November 2, 2023 43 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I agree the Trump reference was highly unnecessary, but I’d say the “focking piece of sh1t” is the guy attacking another poster’s family Irony. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,855 Posted November 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Cdub’s worldview is that the Jews are behind everything bad and the Holocaust never happened. If my truthful post about Knight makes that easier for you to believe, then I would suggest that you have designated the wrong piece of sh!t in this discussion, and should really look in the mirror. Why come in here and p1ss on Bobby Knight with your TDS? No self control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 2, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Irony. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,399 Posted November 2, 2023 12 hours ago, thegeneral said: I love Knight. But it was time to go. He couldn’t adapt and that is part of life and being an adult. What would he need to do to adapt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,399 Posted November 2, 2023 3 libs think he was a bad bad man. Bwahahahahaahah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: 3 libs think he was a bad bad man. Bwahahahahaahah He was definitely an assh0le. Couldn’t say whether he was a “bad bad man” though. Maybe, despite being an ahole, he still did more good than harm. I’m sure many of his former players etc would say so. He was much too complicated a figure for me to judge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 2, 2023 Has anyone asked Larry Bird his thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,399 Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: He was definitely an assh0le. Couldn’t say whether he was a “bad bad man” though. Maybe, despite being an ahole, he still did more good than harm. I’m sure many of his former players etc would say so. He was much too complicated a figure for me to judge He likely shaped more athletes into men than most coaches. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: What would he need to do to adapt? The biggest thing I noticed with Coach Knight was inability to accept that players were becoming a bigger part of the game than his game plan and his coaching. When the one and done started to gain foothold in the game players were becoming bigger than coaches. Even more so today. He couldn’t accept this and it began to impact the team’s results. When you have to win this is going to cause problems. Impossible to say why, but I’d say ego and hubris did him in. The losing and seeing him slip from the top of the mountain made him angry and frankly irrational to a point where he had to get canned from the school where he is a legend. That was hard to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: 3 libs think he was a bad bad man. Bwahahahahaahah Not sure if I’m included in this but I am a huge Knight fan. Loved that guy and he did many amazing things outside of Basketball and of course has all time legend status as a coach. That doesn’t mean he is above criticism. He focked up a lot. Was a pretty tragic figure at the end of his run at IU. Consumed by hate and incapable of self discipline that he demanded of everyone else. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,399 Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The biggest thing I noticed with Coach Knight was inability to accept that players were becoming a bigger part of the game than his game plan and his coaching. When the one and done started to gain foothold in the game players were becoming bigger than coaches. Even more so today. He couldn’t accept this and it began to impact the team’s results. When you have to win this is going to cause problems. Impossible to say why, but I’d say ego and hubris did him in. The losing and seeing him slip from the top of the mountain made him angry and frankly irrational to a point where he had to get canned from the school where he is a legend. That was hard to watch. Glad it wasn’t the way he “coached” as the reason. One and done’s weren’t the loyal player he desired. Can’t fault a guy for that. In fact, that was the beginning of the end of college sports to me. Now, it all about the NIL. The hell with winning just show me the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,399 Posted November 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Not sure if I’m included in this but I am a huge Knight fan. Loved that guy and he did many amazing things outside of Basketball and of course has all time legend status as a coach. That doesn’t mean he is above criticism. He focked up a lot. Was a pretty tragic figure at the end of his run at IU. Consumed by hate and incapable of self discipline that he demanded of everyone else. No you weren’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,208 Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, Alias Detective said: Glad it wasn’t the way he “coached” as the reason. One and done’s weren’t the loyal player he desired. Can’t fault a guy for that. In fact, that was the beginning of the end of college sports to me. Now, it all about the NIL. The hell with winning just show me the money. If he doesn’t want to have those players that is fine, if you can’t win that is also fine. But for someone like Knight where winning meant everything I’d call that a failure to adapt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,757 Posted November 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Why come in here and p1ss on Bobby Knight with your TDS? No self control. Because it really bothered me at the time that he (Knight) would lend his name and legacy to such a bigot. It still does. It was a shameful thing. To promote such a bigoted man is dishonorable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,414 Posted November 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Because it really bothered me at the time that he (Knight) would lend his name and legacy to such a bigot. It still does. It was a shameful thing. To promote such a bigoted man is dishonorable. Now do Bidens bigotry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: He likely shaped more athletes into men than most coaches. And I recognize that. When I was in HS I had a gym teacher that was basically Bobby knight Jr. Huge ahole, bullied kids, harbored grievances, etc. etc. But he got through to me, accurately assessed that I was a bit of a b1tch and never gave it my all, and appropriately dressed me down for it. I probably owe a decent amount of my success (such as it is) to him. And I was certainly not the only one. Afresh I graduated he got fired for stealing money from the school and then later convicted of sexually assaulting a disabled woman (not at the school, at least). So he definitely was a bad dude in the end, but I also know he did some good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted November 2, 2023 Perfect bookend if Nick Nolte Kicks the bucket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Cdub’s worldview is that the Jews are behind everything bad and the Holocaust never happened. If my truthful post about Knight makes that easier for you to believe, then I would suggest that you have designated the wrong piece of sh!t in this discussion, and should really look in the mirror. Raising the question "Can fecal matter see itself in a mirror?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted November 2, 2023 9 hours ago, bostonlager said: Posts like this make it easy to agree with cdub's worldview. Tim, you're a focking piece of sh1t . If you can't enter a thread without bringing up Donald Trump or making it political, then maybe you should spend a little more time with your fat, drunk wife and leave our forum. You must be new here? Every non political thread has some dooshbag turning it political one way or another. They can't help themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,757 Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, crackattack said: You must be new here? Every non political thread has some dooshbag turning it political one way or another. They can't help themselves. Bobby Knight, late in life, chose to make himself a political figure. That was his decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, crackattack said: You must be new here? Every non political thread has some dooshbag turning it political one way or another. They can't help themselves. I'm not new here, but I do hate our new immigrants from FBGs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Bobby Knight, late in life, chose to make himself a political figure. That was his decision. Go away 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted November 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Bobby Knight, late in life, chose to make himself a political figure. That was his decision. You are the moral equivilent of the Westboro Baptists folks who like to demonstrate outside the funerals of fallen vets saying inflamatory things about them. They say it is their right to do so, to seek out folks who are morning a passing and to try to anger them. You have done so here. You could have easily started a thread about your opinion rather than bring it here. You brought it here intentionally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 2, 2023 Loved Knights style. I played basketball in HS and our coach coached at the school 30 some years. He was a bit of a "hard ass" but he knew basketball. He wasn't over the top crazy but he would let you know if you were going through the motions. He was respected but not always well liked. I took to tough coaching. I wasn't the best player on the team maybe 3rd my senior year. A PG who didn't score a ton but knew what was going on passed and played defense. I never minded him calling us out in practices if we weren't practicing hard. Only way you can get ready for a game. I think Knight was a bit of a hotdog that would show people up. But most times he had good reason. I can do without the physicality towards players but the 70s and 80s were different times. His career is a great example of how soft we have become as a society. He was always a hard ass. And he won, a lot, everywhere he went. Because kids took to it. Today that isn't possible because of emotions and victim mentality. Also today you can't speak your mind. Coaches want to say a lot more than they do but have to bite their tongue. Everyone's looking to cancel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 520 Posted November 2, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Bobby Knight, late in life, chose to make himself a political figure. That was his decision. Then start a thread about Bobby and his politics. Don't take a shitt on him in the RIP thread. Focking thick people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 763 Posted November 2, 2023 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Bobby Knight, late in life, chose to make himself a political figure. That was his decision. You chose to make yourself an assho1e in another thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites