If Biden backs out, who runs for the D’s?

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5 hours ago, jonmx said:

Yes, if you hate free speech, hate privacy, love big government control.  You are the biggest fascist in this forum.  

are you insinuating the US loves privacy and hates big government control? 

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31 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

are you insinuating the US loves privacy and hates big government control? 

The Constitution does.  The authoritarians who Tim support who have taken over the rogue agencies in the executive branch don't.

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3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Thanks for the response.

He definitely does seem like an extremely ambitious type. I have no doubt he’s a bit of a psychopath or something. But that’s pretty much true of anyone with any kind of real shot at the presidency, right?

I have no problem with strict environmental policies and believe they are necessary. Yes there will be consequences but if you weigh that against certain destruction of the planet I think we have to make do. And actually there will be plenty of other jobs and opportunities created through the green revolution just as there was with the agricultural revolution,  industrialization, computerization etc.

Turning the cities to sh1t does concern me. I would hope the liberals have learned their lesson there but I certainly understand people being wary. They really have seriously hurt many west coast cities 

Watch this video and then tell me Newsom deserves a shot.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

Bidens ideas and implementation of them are worse than his dementia. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

6 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Sadly, I believe people will vote for him.

 

Middle America won't vote for Newsom. Not a chance. 

Without that, he won't win a general election. Also he needs to split the ticket with a potential VPOTUS who is a minority woman. Who fits that profile? The DNC's thin bench comes up with literally nothing. In leapfrogging Kamala Harris, Newsom would lose a large enough cross section of the black vote to further tank him, and also savage Team Blue down the ticket. 

Will black voters, overall, turn hard Red? No, that's not feasible nor practical. But you don't need that in total to turn a general election. Even another 15 percent swing would be devastating. Also young voters are simply going to stop voting. (That was a trick that could only be used once, to tease "student loan forgiveness" when it was clear any attempt at such would be illegal by POTUS and impossible to achieve through Congress)  That punishes the Democrats more. 

And, as you mentioned, Newsom is a cheater. So that will punish him with suburban women voters, which was his only real political bread and butter zone to start. 

Many working class minority voters and the overall military vote will simply abandon anything with "D" next to their name. 

The only way that Democrats can win POTUS in 2024 is to cheat. And they will likely cheat. If I said that in 2015, there would be outrage and a firestorm of accusations. Now no one says anything. It would literally surprise no one if it happened. If either Biden or Trump or BOTH were assassinated before the 2024 primaries, it would literally surprise no one at this point. Not just here, the entire country as well. 

At minimum, odds are that the Democrats have lost Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania for 2024. By massive margins? No. But enough to lose those critical electoral votes. 

They'll cheat, but at this point, even cheating might not be enough. You can only cheat along the edges. You can't cheat to the degree to climb over this mountain of a huge disaster zone that is the current Democratic Party. 
 

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If anyone believes there was widespread fraud committed by Dems in 2020 and also believes the Republicans would never do such a thing, hit me up via PM. I have some truly outstanding investment opportunities for you!

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CNN constantly running the negative Biden polls tonight.  You can tell they are really trying to push for Biden to step aside.  

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22 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m curious, and not arguing with you here — because I’m really not very familiar with Newsome — but why do you say this?

I remember the Covid shutdown thing where he was hosting rich people in a wine cave or something? Definitely not good, but that’s the only bad thing I’ve specifically heard about him.

Of course, he is a California democrat, but he seems maybe not super loony considering?

I don't care about the covid hosting parties.  R's did that too, I'm sure.

A bit of a hit piece from Newsome haters, but in Cali, most of us really do hate him
https://californiaglobe.com/fl/top-50-disasters-gov-gavin-newsom-has-ushered-into-california/

The below link is obviously slanted, but it gives one a piece of his agenda.  Or mebbe it doesn't. 
https://reformcalifornia.org/news/gavin-newsom-is-running-for-president-7-reasons-you-should-worry

Worms, if you lived here, you would prolly not hate him but mebbe really dislike him.  
Damn...Our state used to be the envy of all.  Not saying that it's Newsoms fault that we have fallen so far, but he sure hasn't helped since he's been our Governor. Quite the opposite, imo.

 

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11 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

He's just incredibly power hungry. 

He signed and implemented several executive orders that really should have gone through our voting process, and left CA in a "state of emergency" nearly a year after all states were done. He meets with foreign leaders (China) and makes deals with them (masks back when CoVid started, and it cost millions to us). He just never makes decisions that are good for ALL, he's only concerned with himself. He was actually sued for abuse of power and lost. 

I am not even counting during CoVid how his children were still able to go to school, he still went to $$ restaurants, while lay people were getting fined and losing their businesses. He's cheated on his previous and current wives. He also has a history of alcohol and drug abuse, and rehab (although he claims he never went to rehab, it was reported for over 10 years that he did...but when running for Gov he claimed it wasn't true). 

He allegedly was also going to move into a high scale neighborhood (this is near me, so I heard plenty about it). When the people who live in the neighborhood found out, they apparently discussed it with the sellers realtor and complained quite a bit - no one wants him in their neighborhood. 

Gavin only loves and cares about Gavin. 

Sadly, I believe people will vote for him. Nancy and Kamala drove SF and other beautiful CA cities into the ground with open air drug use, cr@pping in the streets, homeless camps allowed on neighborhood sidewalks, etc. And people still vote for them. Gavin will be no different. And you think that gas prices and taxes are high now - wait until the entire nation is paying CA prices. People in the midwest with their $3.00/gallon gas won't be able to do anything when it's $6.00/gallon like it is here. And it WILL happen - all of our environmental and "green" laws we have here that push gas tax up and up - and they can raise it at ANY time without a vote.  

I can't caution people enough to not vote for him; but elections have consequences. 

And the whole money/power/wildfire thing that happened? Yeah. Gavin could have done a LOT more before entire cities were lost during CA wildfire season. You need to look into the political action committees that own Gavin and their involvement in our power grid. 

Well said, my neighbor.  Well said

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8 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Your mom runs to my D.

I love it when your mom blows me without her D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dentures 

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On 11/6/2023 at 10:55 PM, thegeneral said:

Kamala get the first crack. I’m not sure how the whole process even works though. 

Speaking of someone who can't keep their legs closed. 

 

 

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On 11/7/2023 at 10:34 AM, IGotWorms said:

Thanks for the response.

He definitely does seem like an extremely ambitious type. I have no doubt he’s a bit of a psychopath or something. But that’s pretty much true of anyone with any kind of real shot at the presidency, right?

I have no problem with strict environmental policies and believe they are necessary. Yes there will be consequences but if you weigh that against certain destruction of the planet I think we have to make do. And actually there will be plenty of other jobs and opportunities created through the green revolution just as there was with the agricultural revolution,  industrialization, computerization etc.

Turning the cities to sh1t does concern me. I would hope the liberals have learned their lesson there but I certainly understand people being wary. They really have seriously hurt many west coast cities 

So to the bolded. 

I do think that some environmental policies are good. Consequences will happen and perhaps job opportunities. However. 

CA already struggles with its power grid. We have blackouts, brown outs, rolling black outs ever single summer. Some people have to get generators (but now they can't be gas powered - which if you have no electricity, then WTF? And solar? We ALL know that solar doesn't produce NEAR as much power as other options, but I digress). My in laws have a ranch/farm. The amount of food that was wasted during a random black out a few summers ago is just astounding. And the cost of buying a generator that CA approves of is just NUTS, it literally gives people ZERO choice on what they can do to stay afloat. And now they also want to take away gas stoves and other gas related household appliances. 

Electric vehicles get their own lane on the highways, and sure you can maybe find a charging station, but you can't go more than 300 miles...and if your charging station is solar, then you charge the car and drive at night? There are just too many "what ifs" that I think SOUND good, but the infrastructure and feasibility is just way too expensive to implement without jacking up taxes and gas prices. 

let's just say a state like Iowa suddenly decides to go green, how will farmers stay in business if they have to go solar, can't use gas powered equipment? They have yet to really build a cost-sound solar/green tractor that has a great ROI for a farmer. If they use gas powered, taxes will be jacked up so much that now gas is twice as much per gallon. Those costs will again be passed onto us; making our food even more expensive. It just doesn't make sense to pass these laws to save the ENTIRE planet, when other countries (like China) get to actually build MORE coal mines and facilities. 

I do believe in the environment and doing what we can to save and help it. But I think the ROI and expense is just TOO much for our society to handle. There are very few who can afford an electric car. And when that car battery dies, you have to get a whole new car. And the batteries are just thrown into the ocean or some ditch somewhere for the future to deal with. 

And Gavin an't that environmentally savvy when the state burns down every month and creates air that literally NO one can breathe. He's not that much into the environment. 

ETA: I actually think that if people want to see what the world will look like when the environmental or dem policies are put in to law, just look at CA. Sure people say that we are the 5th largest economy in the world. BUT...our homeless is out of control. Crime is horrid. And less than 30% of CA residents can actually afford to buy a home - and most are being priced out of their rentals. And it just keeps getting more expensive. 

 

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They've been putting booty sludge on every show they can the last six weeks or so. 

 

- on subjects that have nothing to do with his job.

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Put a chick in there and make her gay.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,288]

Kamala runs for the D’s. Always has. 

[Mookz 1,342]

54 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Put a chick in there and make her gay.

How did you make pickschurs? 

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1 hour ago, Mookz said:

How did you make pickschurs? 

See how I can go three and four posts up and copy and paste in wiffleball's and The New Girl's avatars:

Obviously, I can't control wiffleball's and TNG's avatars since they control them.

The thing is, I do control Kim Jong Il's avatar ... and so what do you think you'll find if you go and look up the avatar for Kim Jong Il's account?

 

Yes.

So every time I need a picture, I go in and fock around with Kim Jong Il's avatar.

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

See how I can go three and posts up and copy and paste in wiffleball's and The New Girl's avatars:

Obviously, I can't control wiffleball's and TNG's avatars since they control them.

The thing is, I do control Kim Jong Il's avatar ... and so what do you think you'll find if you go and look up the avatar for Kim Jong Il's account?

 

Yes.

Brilliant 

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