Some conservatives want to ban no-fault divorce

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Yeah you read that right. These guys are

 

CNN — 

Following what some conservatives view as legal victories on the battlegrounds of abortion rights and affirmative action, a number of politicians and influencers are turning their attention to another long-held construct: No-fault divorce.

Right-wing commentators like Steven Crowder and Matt Walsh have ramped up complaints in recent months that it is too easy for people — specifically women — to get divorces. All states currently have some version of a no-fault divorce law, but Republicans in Texas and Nebraska list the dissolution or restriction of no-fault divorce in their state party political platforms.

In Louisiana earlier this year, state GOP members debated officially backing the dissolution of no-fault divorce, but no decision was made. A lack of full-on legislative attempts to curb the practice hasn’t stopped an abundance of conservative anti-divorce rhetoric, or an answering wave of fear from progressives.

Newly minted House Speaker Mike Johnson has been a vocal opponent of no-fault divorce, which allows couples to obtain a divorce without proving fault — and without both parties agreeing to the split. In a 2016 sermon, he claimed it turned the United States into a “completely amoral society.”

Though no-fault divorce was first legalized more than 50 years ago, it has long been sneered at in conservative circles, who see it as a danger to the sanctity of marriage and the concept of the American family.

For feminists, human rights advocates and others, no-fault divorce is an important buttress for gender equality and directly addresses issues like marital abuse. Many legal minds also see no-fault divorce as a common-sense legal path that reduces unnecessary burdens on courts and couples alike.

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/27/us/no-fault-divorce-explained-history-wellness-cec/index.html

[Strike 5,220]

Some Democrats want to kill all Jews 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, Strike said:

Some Democrats want to kill all Jews 

Did they make one of them speaker of the house?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,961]

Democrats are taking away your gas stoves. But not theirs. 

[Strike 5,220]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

Did they make one of them speaker of the house?

One is the house minority leader.  IOW, if the Dems had the house he would almost definitely be speaker.  And the sad thing is that you're equating divorce to terrorism and the cold blooded murder of an entire religion.  You're such a peach!!!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,961]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

One is the house minority leader.  IOW, if the Dems had the house he would almost definitely be speaker.  And the sad thing is that you're equating divorce to terrorism and the cold blooded murder of an entire religion.  You're such a peach!!!

Oh yeah, Hakeem Jeffries is a confirmed anti-Semite. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

"Women should not be allowed to vote" I'll vote for that guy 

[thegeneral 2,942]

3:1 odds Mike Johnson is wearing panties or cruising truck stops on the weekends in disguise

[Hardcore troubadour 14,961]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

3:1 odds Mike Johnson is wearing panties or cruising truck stops on the weekends in disguise

But he doesn’t want to kill Jews, so there’s that. 

[thegeneral 2,942]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

But he doesn’t want to kill Jews, so there’s that. 

Wait til he finds out they look at porn!

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

40 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

3:1 odds Mike Johnson is wearing panties or cruising truck stops on the weekends in disguise

Sounds like someone's mad that he got passed over at the truck stop by Mike Johnson.

You should probably sit this one out.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,855]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Did they make one of them speaker of the house?

I don't know if you're intentionally stupid or if you were born that way. You do realize your side of the aisle has voted the squad into office, correct? The most anti-semitic jew haters in Congress. And that's just for starters.  The Democratic party as a whole are some of the most anti-Semitic jew-haters in the USA.

You yourself are a self-proclaimed anti-Semitic Jew hater and pro hamas supporter.

You should probably do some research before you decide to post next time, you dumb fn moron. 

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11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sounds like someone's mad that he got passed over at the truck stop by Mike Johnson.

You should probably sit this one out.

I’m way out of this little fella’s league!

Mike Johnson has an app that shares his browsing history with his kid to avoid temptation

He’s def got a burner for his Grindr account. NTTAWWT!

 

[nobody 2,569]

33 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’m way out of this little fella’s league!

Mike Johnson has an app that shares his browsing history with his kid to avoid temptation

He’s def got a burner for his Grindr account. NTTAWWT!

 

Why do you think being gay and being afraid to come out is so funny or somehow an insult?  Check your homophobia.

[thegeneral 2,942]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Why do you think being gay and being afraid to come out is so funny or somehow an insult?  Check your homophobia.

I don’t think being gay is funny.

I do think it’s sadly funny when these conservatives channeling the dad in Footloose all turn out to be on the down low. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

someone should be blamed in divorce, I am against no fault divorce, if someone breaks marriage vows it should void the contract

 

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

One is the house minority leader.  IOW, if the Dems had the house he would almost definitely be speaker.  And the sad thing is that you're equating divorce to terrorism and the cold blooded murder of an entire religion.  You're such a peach!!!

Hakeem Jeffries wants to kill all Jews? Just shut the fock up. Showing off for everyone to see what an idiot you’re being. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hakeem Jeffries wants to kill all Jews? Just shut the fock up. Showing off for everyone to see what an idiot you’re being. 

Now you're outraged? Interesting

[League Champion 1,896]

7 hours ago, thegeneral said:

3:1 odds Mike Johnson is wearing panties or cruising truck stops on the weekends in disguise

100% chance that your President is a Kid Sniffing Pedo. Doesn't matter??? 

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I find this an odd area to focus, but when one consuders the value afforded to children in a two-parent situation I guess I get that.  But if they hate each other and are jsut toxic that might be more harmful to the kid than just having one parent involved.  Not sure....

They seem to be intent to save the nuclear family from the assault being waged by leftists through "woke" or "BLM".   So this could be some kind of counter measure to those toxiz ideologies.

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7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hakeem Jeffries wants to kill all Jews? Just shut the fock up. Showing off for everyone to see what an idiot you’re being. 

Showing off your ignorance again, huh?

[Engorgeous George 2,154]

I am fine with no fault divorce.  If even only one party to the marriage wants out, let them out.  As for the dissolution and asignment of marital debt and marital assets and future obligations for supporting the child and for child custody issues, that seems to me to be a set of issues which should be open to litigation and fault.

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11 hours ago, Strike said:

One is the house minority leader.  IOW, if the Dems had the house he would almost definitely be speaker.  And the sad thing is that you're equating divorce to terrorism and the cold blooded murder of an entire religion.  You're such a peach!!!

Well that didn't go as planned.

[iam90sbaby 2,494]

Marriage is 100% not worth the risk if you're a man. Why gamble half your sh!t that your relationship will last forever? 

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Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Marriage is 100% not worth the risk if you're a man. Why gamble half your sh!t that your relationship will last forever? 

This.   There is really no reason to bother with marriage given the way the world is stacked against males today.  If I were advising some young man, I would encourage him to consider alternatives. 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Marriage is 100% not worth the risk if you're a man. Why gamble half your sh!t that your relationship will last forever? 

 

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This.   There is really no reason to bother with marriage given the way the world is stacked against males today.  If I were advising some young man, I would encourage him to consider alternatives. 

Man some of you guys are just so ##### miserable with yourselves.  Jesus.

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

 

Man some of you guys are just so ##### miserable with yourselves.  Jesus.

I see you disagree, in your own way, but I do not note any counter argument....perhaps you need time to develop one.....

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

 

Man some of you guys are just so ##### miserable with yourselves.  Jesus.

Hey Gutterboy, you’re wanted in the Disney thread. Don’t be a wuss and get in there and defend your position.  

[Engorgeous George 2,154]

My wife brought debt and a lithe body to our marriage.  She worked in the home.  I brought property, money and advanced degrees with ongoing earning potential. If we liguidated everything we own we would be worth right around 6 million dollars.  if she divorced me she would get half.  She came in with around 50 thousand in debt.  i cam in with around 2 million in hard assets.  She would exit with 3 million or plus $3, 050,000.00 while I would exit plus $1,000, 000.00.

 

In reality I would probably give her the house and then one half of the remaining assets.  Also Any residue of my estate upon my death would go to my offspring, her/our kids.  Financially marriage has been a good deal for her and a poor one for me.  Of course I did not enter into it for financial reasons.  She was and remains unusually lithe.

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20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This.   There is really no reason to bother with marriage given the way the world is stacked against males today.  If I were advising some young man, I would encourage him to consider alternatives. 

I find this very sad.  I have a son with a serious girlfriend, and if he decides that she is the right one, I hope he proposes, she accepts, and they begin the wonderful process of building and sharing their lives together.

I view no-fault divorce like other freedoms such as abortion, and entitlements like welfare.  They are helpful and necessary in extreme situations, but in general we should avoid using them.  Unfortunately, we have lost the moral fabric of our society, in our ever-increasing move towards hedonism.  Just as people scam the system to get welfare, and have abortions for convenience, people will get divorce because they just aren't happy at the moment.   

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23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey Gutterboy, you’re wanted in the Disney thread. Don’t be a wuss and get in there and defend your position.  

Let me finish having sex with this tranny then I'll climb down from the ladder and shill for Disney for you.

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I see you disagree, in your own way, but I do not note any counter argument....perhaps you need time to develop one.....

counter argument?  Love, forming a sacred bond, raising a family, growing old together, sharing a life.... 

[The Real timschochet 6,451]

33 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Marriage is 100% not worth the risk if you're a man. Why gamble half your sh!t that your relationship will last forever? 

Pretty sexist isn’t it? What if the woman is the breadwinner? 

[The Real timschochet 6,451]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Let me finish having sex with this tranny

Why should you be the one to have her? 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Why should you be the one to have her? 

He prefers He/Him, stop being so homophobic.

[RLLD 4,143]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I find this very sad.  I have a son with a serious girlfriend, and if he decides that she is the right one, I hope he proposes, she accepts, and they begin the wonderful process of building and sharing their lives together.

I view no-fault divorce like other freedoms such as abortion, and entitlements like welfare.  They are helpful and necessary in extreme situations, but in general we should avoid using them.  Unfortunately, we have lost the moral fabric of our society, in our ever-increasing move towards hedonism.  Just as people scam the system to get welfare, and have abortions for convenience, people will get divorce because they just aren't happy at the moment.   

I am sure he will be just fine.  Statistically things have improved over the last 10 years, so there is some hope. 

[RLLD 4,143]

10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

counter argument?  Love, forming a sacred bond, raising a family, growing old together, sharing a life.... 

Sound really nice. I surmise there are those who arrive at such an outcome.  Of course we know that statistically women seek divorce more often than men do....and why not? I mean, the courts are tilted in their fabor, they can extract extravagant outcomes so sure.....

I wonder....would they be so eager if they only left with what they brought or earned....and could never leverage the children to their advantage? 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Sound really nice. I surmise there are those who arrive at such an outcome.  Of course we know that statistically women seek divorce more often than men do....and why not? I mean, the courts are tilted in their fabor, they can extract extravagant outcomes so sure.....

I wonder....would they be so eager if they only left with what they brought or earned....and could never leverage the children to their advantage? 

I'm sorry your ex wife screwed you.

[RLLD 4,143]

34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I'm sorry your ex wife screwed you.

Right, if I had one I think we could safely assume that she certainly would.  But ignoring reality does not make it less true.

[jerryskids 6,576]

34 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am sure he will be just fine.  Statistically things have improved over the last 10 years, so there is some hope. 

A few years ago he was vehemently against marriage, for the reasons you just posted to gutter.  Then a funny thing happened:  I got cancer, and he watched his mom and dad fight through it together.  He realized that he wasn't going to be 25 forever, and that he wanted someone to be there for the bad times and the good, and that he wanted kids who would care like he did about me.  

He has really matured in that time, so much so that I sometimes forget and still think of him as the immature boy he recently was.