Kansas City Chiefs Fan vs The Woke Mob

[listen2me 23 1,827]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

'We are aware that a young member of our community attended a Kansas City Chiefs game in a headdress and face paint in his way of supporting his favorite team,' said tribal chairman Kenneth Kahn. 

'As a federally recognized tribe, the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians does not endorse wearing regalia as part of a costume or participating in any other type of cultural appropriation.'

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-12811113/amp/Native-American-tribe-nine-year-old-Kansas-City-fan-belongs-distances-kid-wearing-headdress-black-paint-face.html

By 1900, their numbers had declined to just 200, while current estimates of Chumash people today range from 2,000^[1] to 5,000.^[2]

The demographics of traditional Chumash society are quite complex. One aspect of interest is the 'Aqi gender of the Chumash. 'Aqi was a third Chumash gender defined by biological males that performed work and wore clothing traditionally of women. The 'aqi gender appears to also be closely tied to non-procreative sexual activity, such as homosexuality.^[47]

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

7 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

False and widely known even in corporate left media. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6091581/Teenagers-question-biological-gender-friends-transgender.html

And the NIH

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6095578/

You’re being misled, and lied to. It’s not a choice: 

https://ourtransitionallife.com/being-transgender-not-choice/

 

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

'We are aware that a young member of our community attended a Kansas City Chiefs game in a headdress and face paint in his way of supporting his favorite team,' said tribal chairman Kenneth Kahn. 

'As a federally recognized tribe, the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians does not endorse wearing regalia as part of a costume or participating in any other type of cultural appropriation.'

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-12811113/amp/Native-American-tribe-nine-year-old-Kansas-City-fan-belongs-distances-kid-wearing-headdress-black-paint-face.html

Of course they don’t approve. Because it’s racist. Thats been clear from the beginning of this discussion. It’s cultural appropriation. 

[Voltaire 5,202]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re being misled, and lied to. It’s not a choice: 

https://ourtransitionallife.com/being-transgender-not-choice/

 

Your position is that all these groups of friends that come out as transgender together do so just by sheer coincidence?

And doing so after a rapid increase in tranny internet searches?

 

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Your position is that all these groups of friends that come out as transgender together do so just by sheer coincidence?

 

Not coincidence. They find each other. I’m glad of that. The ones who don’t find others are the ones who commit suicide. 

[Voltaire 5,202]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Not coincidence. They find each other. I’m glad of that. The ones who don’t find others are the ones who commit suicide. 

The friend groups pre-exist before any of them become trannies, not after. Once one transitions, it rolls through the whole group the same way eating disorders or drug addiction or "the choking game" (to which I lost a niece) spreads. 

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

12 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The friend groups pre-exist before any of them become trannies, not after. Once one transitions, it rolls through the whole group the same way eating disorders or drug addiction or "the choking game" (to which I lost a niece) spreads. 

I really don’t think so. But I’m very sorry about your niece. That’s terrible. 

[Voltaire 5,202]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I really don’t think so. But I’m very sorry about your niece. That’s terrible. 

You really don't think so? I'm quoted peer-reviewed research on the NIH's website from 256 parents as well as mainstream left media reports.

And you countered them with a link to the personal story/opinion of Zoey, and an "I really don't think so."

 

[Voltaire 5,202]

Also: https://www.facebook.com/p/Remember-Aja-100067540903308/

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

'We are aware that a young member of our community attended a Kansas City Chiefs game in a headdress and face paint in his way of supporting his favorite team,' said tribal chairman Kenneth Kahn. 

'As a federally recognized tribe, the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians does not endorse wearing regalia as part of a costume or participating in any other type of cultural appropriation.'

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-12811113/amp/Native-American-tribe-nine-year-old-Kansas-City-fan-belongs-distances-kid-wearing-headdress-black-paint-face.html

its not cultural appropriation if its your own focking culture, the tribal chairman is a b1tch

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

You really don't think so? I'm quoted peer-reviewed research on the NIH's website from 256 parents as well as mainstream left media reports.

And you countered them with a link to the personal story/opinion of Zoey, and an "I really don't think so."

 

I could quote you doctors and the American Medical Association and countless other medical associations around the world who do not believe this is a choice that teenagers can be talked into. Would it do any good? I trust their judgment. 
 

No offense but I seem to be having the same arguments with the same people. On this issue I trust the majority of doctors. When Covid happened I trusted the public health experts. On the issue of climate change I trust the vast majority of scientists. On the subject of the 2020 election, I trusted the reporting of the mainstream media who told me that Biden won. 

On each of these issues conservatives begin with skepticism and distrust of the experts. Do they do this out of a healthy skepticism? Or is it because in each case, the outcome that reality demands is displeasing to them? I suspect the latter. 

[Voltaire 5,202]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I could quote you doctors and the American Medical Association and countless other medical associations around the world who do not believe this is a choice that teenagers can be talked into. Would it do any good? I trust their judgment. 
 

No offense but I seem to be having the same arguments with the same people. On this issue I trust the majority of doctors. When Covid happened I trusted the public health experts. On the issue of climate change I trust the vast majority of scientists. On the subject of the 2020 election, I trusted the reporting of the mainstream media who told me that Biden won. 

On each of these issues conservatives begin with skepticism and distrust of the experts. Do they do this out of a healthy skepticism? Or is it because in each case, the outcome that reality demands is displeasing to them? I suspect the latter. 

Who distrusts the experts?

You were given peer reviewed research  that shows groups of girls transitioning together in a clear-cut social contagion. and you ignored it. You assured me falsely that they met after, not before they transitioned which is clearly not the case. Then you gave me an obscure agenda driven activist with opinions, platitudes, and no last name.

Your claim that 

Quote

Also there is no such thing as a “trans groomer”. You cannot talk anyone into becoming a transsexual. Sorry but it’s not possible. 

is not only demonstrably false, but to a large degree.Zoey believes he was entirely internally driven to becoming trans, but he's also living in a world where this behavior is accepted and prompted. Since there's so much of this now going around online is sites lie TikTok as well as in legacy media it's difficult to unravel the external and internal factors. That you and he assure us that there is no outward pressure involved is baloney and these friend groups of girls transitioning proves it. Gender transition also coincide with a large uptick in viewing trannies on social media. Maybe Zoey never got a bug in his ear about transgenderism, he'd be perfectly happy living as an effeminate man or gay guy instead.

Anyway you made an ignorant and demonstrably false statement here that outside factors do not affect transitioning people, in direct conflict with the research.

That would mean that the person who distrusts the experts is you.

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Who has the experts on their side? That would be me.

Who has a person named Zoey with no last name and a bag of opinions on their side? That would be you.

Who distrusts the experts? That would be you.

 

 

I linked that article because I thought it was good writing. But you’re wrong; the amount of experts on my side of this issue are overwhelming. 
 

Yale School of Medicine: 

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/when-the-standard-of-gender-affirming-care-becomes-illegal-its-everyones-problem/
 

Fenway Health: 

https://fenwayhealth.org/new-study-undercuts-the-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-hypothesis/

The American Psychiatric Association: 

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

Columbia University Department of Psychiatry: 

https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/gender-affirming-care-saves-lives

I could go on and on. That’s just the tip of iceberg. As I wrote the overwhelming majority of experts are on my side- or, to be more accurate, I’m on their side. 

[Ron_Artest 1,076]

6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

its not cultural appropriation if its your own focking culture, the tribal chairman is a b1tch

So you think you know more about how natives should feel than the natives themselves.  You're white, you know better than redskins.

Calling the tribal chairman a bish wasn't something I thought you would get to, but yay for you. LOLOLOL

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

Karen’s and Cucks. Todays democrats. 

[League Champion 1,896]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

could quote you doctors and the American Medical Association and countless other medical associations around the world who do not believe this is a choice that teenagers can be talked into. Would it do any good? I trust their judgment. 

SCIENCE 🧪

[BeachGuy23 642]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

SCIENCE 🧪

Science is bad now according to conservatives.  But weird, your able to post your alt right garbage due to...science.

And if your loved ones ever get really sick you'll run to the hospital and let the doctors due what they need to based on...science.

Nothing but hypocrites. 

[League Champion 1,896]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Science is bad now

Tell me about Science BOYO. That one where Pedocrats believe in more than 2 genders. You know, the non-binary LGBTQDNDJXUSJS ones that you support so dearly.

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, League Champion said:

Tell me about Science BOYO. That one where Pedocrats believe in more than 2 genders. You know, the non-binary LGBTQDNDJXUSJS ones that you support so dearly.

Question for you.  You'll find some one off tweets and whatever that support what you just typed.  Do you in your alt right heart of hearts believe that any liberal on this board believes there's actually more than 2 genders?  Or that men can have babies or whatever else ridiculous alt right drivel you lemmings love to all regurgitate?

Has any liberal on this board espoused those views?  That there are biologically more than 2 genders and that men can get pregnant?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

Question for you.  You'll find some one off tweets and whatever that support what you just typed.  Do you in your alt right heart of hearts believe that any liberal on this board believes there's actually more than 2 genders?  Or that men can have babies or whatever else ridiculous alt right drivel you lemmings love to all regurgitate?

Has any liberal on this board espoused those views?  That there are biologically more than 2 genders and that men can get pregnant?

This guy. Doesn’t believe in Trans rights. Bigot. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

This guy. Doesn’t believe in Trans rights. Bigot. 

Do you believe that any liberals on this board think that there are more than two biological genders?  Has any liberal here espoused those views because you lemmings constantly talk about it like it's fact and that it's something that all liberals believe.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

8 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

Do you believe that any liberals on this board think that there are more than two biological genders?  Has any liberal here espoused those views because you lemmings constantly talk about it like it's fact and that it's something that all liberals believe.

Listen Boyo, you believe in and support trans rights. Hence, you believe trans men are men  and trans women are women. It’s that simple. So yes, you think a woman can have testicles. Sorry. Love this for you though. 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Listen Boyo, you believe in and support trans rights. Hence, you believe trans men are men  and trans women are women. It’s that simple. So yes, you think a woman can have testicles. Sorry. Love this for you though. 

Sorry friend.  I believe there are two genders, men and women.  If a man wants to dress like a woman, he's still a man.  But unlike you I won't persecute him for wanting to do so.

Now, what liberals on this forum have expressed the views that you parrot constantly like the lemming you are?

[League Champion 1,896]

5 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

But unlike you I won't persecute him for wanting to do so.

Who's persecuting anyone? Wrong is wrong, you just said it BOYO. You don't pander to WRONG

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

52 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So you think you know more about how natives should feel than the natives themselves.  You're white, you know better than redskins.

Calling the tribal chairman a bish wasn't something I thought you would get to, but yay for you. LOLOLOL

Here I’ll just make it clear for you. If you are a man and are part of this woke garbage yes you are a b1tch no matter what your skin color is. 
 

and it’s funny you think that doosh represents all Indians 

If you want to criticize a 12 year old kid for having fun at a football game. Gtfo 

[BeachGuy23 642]

Just now, League Champion said:

Who's persecuting anyone? Wrong is wrong, you just said it BOYO. You don't pander to WRONG

What's wrong?  A man dressing like a woman?  You have 350M people in this country, you don't think a tiny percentage are going to be into weird stuff?

How exactly does a man dressing as a woman impact you IRL?  Does it tempt you?  Do they hurt you?  How do they actually impact you friend?

And pandering is letting people alone?  I'd say it's the opposite friend.  Clutching your pearls over something that has no impact on your life is absurd. 

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

How exactly does a man dressing as a woman impact you IRL?  Does it tempt you?  Do they hurt you?  How do they actually impact you friend?

Yes It does impact me, as we discussed in another thread. I have a little girl. It's NOT ok for some mentally ill gender confused MAN wearing a dress to use the same bathroom as my Daughter. YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN, YOU'RE A DUDE WITH A SCHLONG. If that's ok with you then you're a SICK F. That's just part of the issue, there's a million things wrong with the whole thing. 

Do what you want to do but keep your sick demented gender confusion issues off of my radar. 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,076]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Here I’ll just make it clear for you. If you are a man and are part of this woke garbage yes you are a b1tch no matter what your skin color is. 
 

and it’s funny you think that doosh represents all Indians 

If you want to criticize a 12 year old kid for having fun at a football game. Gtfo 

I never criticized the kid, I'm criticizing you.

Go back and read, I don't think the kid is racist, I have no problem face painting and dressing up as a fan.

My problem is you saying that the tribe supports this.  They don't, and I curb stomped you on that already.  Take the L.

Now you're gonna call the tribe leader a bish for being offended.  This proves what a racist you are.  You as a white man are telling a tribal leader that he shouldn't be offended when other people dress up like his tribe and try and use ancestry as an excuse.  That's incredibly racist.  You don't get to tell other people how they should feel about their culture.

So it's you I'm criticizing, you I curb stomped, and you who bends the knee for racists.  Time to go touch grass and rethink your life choices.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

20 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

What's wrong?  A man dressing like a woman?  You have 350M people in this country, you don't think a tiny percentage are going to be into weird stuff?

How exactly does a man dressing as a woman impact you IRL?  Does it tempt you?  Do they hurt you?  How do they actually impact you friend?

And pandering is letting people alone?  I'd say it's the opposite friend.  Clutching your pearls over something that has no impact on your life is absurd. 

They aren’t dressing like a woman, they are women, bigot.  I don’t know if you’ve been informed, Ut you either recognize them as their declared sex or you don’t. Sorry Boyo, those are the rules. Ask Biden. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I never criticized the kid, I'm criticizing you.

Go back and read, I don't think the kid is racist, I have no problem face painting and dressing up as a fan.

My problem is you saying that the tribe supports this.  They don't, and I curb stomped you on that already.  Take the L.

Now you're gonna call the tribe leader a bish for being offended.  This proves what a racist you are.  You as a white man are telling a tribal leader that he shouldn't be offended when other people dress up like his tribe and try and use ancestry as an excuse.  That's incredibly racist.  You don't get to tell other people how they should feel about their culture.

So it's you I'm criticizing, you I curb stomped, and you who bends the knee for racists.  Time to go touch grass and rethink your life choices.

Yep again fock off and fock him. My son is native dumb dumb 

maybe he should go back to living in a teepee and not having a house rather than culturally appropriating white culture 

[Ron_Artest 1,076]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep again fock off and fock him. My son is native dumb dumb 

 

"I have black friends!" LOLOLOLOLOL

[League Champion 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

"I have black friends!" LOLOLOLOLOL

GUTTERBOY Hulking up!!!!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

"I have black friends!" LOLOLOLOLOL

Plenty. I’m in cannabis. And my gf is black so there’s that 

but she’s not a moron libtard so you would call her an Uncle Tom 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

7 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Who distrusts the experts?

You were given peer reviewed research  that shows groups of girls transitioning together in a clear-cut social contagion. and you ignored it. You assured me falsely that they met after, not before they transitioned which is clearly not the case. Then you gave me an obscure agenda driven activist with opinions, platitudes, and no last name.

Your claim that 

is not only demonstrably false, but to a large degree.Zoey believes he was entirely internally driven to becoming trans, but he's also living in a world where this behavior is accepted and prompted. Since there's so much of this now going around online is sites lie TikTok as well as in legacy media it's difficult to unravel the external and internal factors. That you and he assure us that there is no outward pressure involved is baloney and these friend groups of girls transitioning proves it. Gender transition also coincide with a large uptick in viewing trannies on social media. Maybe Zoey never got a bug in his ear about transgenderism, he'd be perfectly happy living as an effeminate man or gay guy instead.

Anyway you made an ignorant and demonstrably false statement here that outside factors do not affect transitioning people, in direct conflict with the research.

That would mean that the person who distrusts the experts is you.

You should have learned by now that the person you are arguing with is a troll and will inundate your peer reviewed sources with garbage leftist references that do nothing to prove his point. Instead, it provides himself some weird kink that drives him to this type of perverse narcissistic behavior and you’ll feel dumber for arguing with a retarded person. 

[RLLD 4,143]

9 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course they don’t approve. Because it’s racist. Thats been clear from the beginning of this discussion. It’s cultural appropriation. 

No it is not racist, you are misusing the term

[Stryker Ryker 188]

OF COURSE Tim The Real Retard is back in this thread defending the racist black guy Tim only knows one thing: listen to Massa. That’s all he’s got in his brain. Everything else is just dead 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Of course they don’t approve. Because it’s racist. Thats been clear from the beginning of this discussion. It’s cultural appropriation. 

“Cultural appropriation” to a Native American kid u guys see this retard? Never in my life have I seen someone more delusional or pathetic 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

On 11/29/2023 at 9:39 PM, Voltaire said:

Tim isn't an online entity, he's a human being with a life. He clearly wanted to continue with us but maybe he had to work, maybe he had an appointment, maybe the plumbing broke. I take his word for it that something came up because whatever else you can say about him, the guy will always defend himself, he doesn't duck out of conversations. 

Nah. Tim is here constantly. He ran cause he was literally being attack by everyone & couldn’t handle the heat. He lives for this board. I’d agree with you if he wasn’t he everyday constantly posting at all hours of the day. Up until this thread 

[BeachGuy23 642]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

Yes It does impact me, as we discussed in another thread. I have a little girl. It's NOT ok for some mentally ill gender confused MAN wearing a dress to use the same bathroom as my Daughter. YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN, YOU'RE A DUDE WITH A SCHLONG. If that's ok with you then you're a SICK F. That's just part of the issue, there's a million things wrong with the whole thing. 

Do what you want to do but keep your sick demented gender confusion issues off of my radar. 

 

Has your daughter had this issue?

You're aware that a man could easily go in and cause trouble right?  There's nothing magical about a man dressed as a man or woman.  If the dude wants to assault someone, the girls room sign won't stop him.

Friend, maybe focus on issues that are actually impacting this country.  Like the number if conservative incels killing innocents.  Or kids killing themselves with guns.  Or the conservative turn away from science despite using science in almost every aspect of their dull, not too smart lives. 

[jerryskids 6,574]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I never criticized the kid, I'm criticizing you.

Go back and read, I don't think the kid is racist, I have no problem face painting and dressing up as a fan.

My problem is you saying that the tribe supports this.  They don't, and I curb stomped you on that already.  Take the L.

Now you're gonna call the tribe leader a bish for being offended.  This proves what a racist you are.  You as a white man are telling a tribal leader that he shouldn't be offended when other people dress up like his tribe and try and use ancestry as an excuse.  That's incredibly racist.  You don't get to tell other people how they should feel about their culture.

So it's you I'm criticizing, you I curb stomped, and you who bends the knee for racists.  Time to go touch grass and rethink your life choices.

Your article accidentally skipped a sentence in it's unbiased reporting:

https://x.com/ProfBlackistone/status/1730279222566916272?s=20

Individuals are free to do what they want, but that does not mean it is their official position, which is to not dress like that, which makes sense as an official position.  I think it is a stretch to say they are against what the kid did.  It seems more like they are staying out of it.  But that's just my read.