The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said: āItās doesnāt matter if the boy is black or not. Wearing African colors is cultural appropriationā my GOD this guy is a fockin retard I wouldnāt use such language but yeah your comments certainly donāt show much intelligence at all. So I agree. Wait- you ARE describing yourself right?Ā 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No youāre wrong. Chiefs and their fans are the members of that āmore dominant people.āĀ This really isnāt a difficult argument at all. This kid was not wearing the regalia as part of any Chumash celebration. He was wearing it, and the red and black face, as a football fan. Thats what makes it offensive.Ā His personal heritage is irrelevant UNLESS youāre willing to stipulate that only Native Americans can wear these outfits and that if any other fan does it who is not a Native American is being offensive. If youāre willing to agree to that then Iāll give credit to your argument. But if youāre not willing to agree then your argument becomes pointless.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Reality said: Come on. Youāre capable of more than this arenāt you? Offer a rebuttal.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stryker Ryker 188 Posted December 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I wouldnāt use such language but yeah your comments certainly donāt show much intelligence at all. So I agree. Wait- you ARE describing yourself right?Ā lol poor little snowflake canāt even see his own hypocrisy. Of course we all know what type of retard he is so itās not surprising Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted December 1, 2023 Tim is a legit nut job.Ā Ā Or a great troll.Ā Must get tiring to look for racism in each and every thing in life.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: Tim is a legit nut job.Ā Ā Or a great troll.Ā Must get tiring to look for racism in each and every thing in life.Ā Actually Iām neither. Just a pretty normal dude who is amused by all of the analysis.Ā Ā Also I donāt see racism in everything. But some of you guys see it in nothing and it is there sometimes.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: No youāre wrong. Chiefs and their fans are the members of that āmore dominant people.āĀ This really isnāt a difficult argument at all. This kid was not wearing the regalia as part of any Chumash celebration. He was wearing it, and the red and black face, as a football fan. Thats what makes it offensive.Ā His personal heritage is irrelevant UNLESS youāre willing to stipulate that only Native Americans can wear these outfits and that if any other fan does it who is not a Native American is being offensive. If youāre willing to agree to that then Iāll give credit to your argument. But if youāre not willing to agree then your argument becomes pointless.Ā Nope, and nope. I literally gave you the definition of cultural appropriation.Ā I know you Lefties like to redefine words to meet your worldview, but I don't subscribe to that foolishness.Ā If you will agree that this is not a case of cultural appropriation, but you find it offensive anyway, I'll still think it is a wrong position, but not an inane one. And I stipulate to no such thing.Ā I'm kinda sad in a way that the kid ended up being native, because it obscures from the real discussion, which is that a kid dressing up to support his team is not objectively offensive.Ā If you have an issue with the Chiefs having that as their name, go for it, but don't get all woke with a kid for supporting his team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Also I donāt see racism in everything. But some of you guys see it in nothing and it is there sometimes.Ā Isn't it amazing that the ones who are offended are normally not the victim?? Liberals love feeling sorry for everyone else, even without meritĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted December 1, 2023 4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: No youāre wrong. Chiefs and their fans are the members of that āmore dominant people.āĀ This really isnāt a difficult argument at all. This kid was not wearing the regalia as part of any Chumash celebration. He was wearing it, and the red and black face, as a football fan. Thats what makes it offensive.Ā His personal heritage is irrelevant UNLESS youāre willing to stipulate that only Native Americans can wear these outfits and that if any other fan does it who is not a Native American is being offensive. If youāre willing to agree to that then Iāll give credit to your argument. But if youāre not willing to agree then your argument becomes pointless.Ā I think even Chiefs fans as white as Elizabeth Warren should be allowed to pain their face like Bills and Raiders fans. I jsut think it was delicious when the kid turned out to be Indian. But I guess liberals are arguing that Chiefs fans should be barred from the practiceĀ every other fan base participates in because it pisses off white liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I think even Chiefs fans as white as Elizabeth Warren should be allowed to pain their face like Bills and Raiders fans. I jsut think it was delicious when the kid turned out to be Indian. But I guess liberals are arguing that Chiefs fans should be barred from the practiceĀ every other fan base participates in because it pisses off white liberals. Just wait next up is a call to ban red, brown, black, or yellow for team colors so there is no chance this insanely racist activity can continue.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2023 To be equal, make sure white is on the list too.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, BuckSwope said: Just wait next up is a call to ban red, brown, black, or yellow for team colors so there is no chance this insanely racist activity can continue.Ā Ā Then every uniform will be white which means white privilege. Why do whites get all the uniform colors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Then every uniform will be white which means white privilege. Why do whites get all the uniform colors Fock it, best to just cancel all sports!Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, BuckSwope said: Fock it, best to just cancel all sports!Ā Or no they all wear grey. Home Team dark grey, away team light greyĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, League Champion said: Or no they all wear grey. Home Team dark grey, away team light greyĀ Nope, slippery slope with that dark gray back towards the racism.Ā Ā Plus, I'm sure there is an undead American somewhere who will be offended by all the grey face going on.Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: Nope, slippery slope with that dark gray back towards the racism.Ā Ā Plus, I'm sure there is an undead American somewhere who will be offended by all the grey face going on.Ā Ā Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 Just for Tim. This is the reality of cultural appropriation Ā https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy8xa7trJy6/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ== Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted December 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Fock it, best to just cancel all sports!Ā We may be at that point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fireballer said: We may be at that point Sure and gay marriage means marriages with animals in our future- remember that argument? Slippery slope arguments are so dumb.Ā Ā There is no slippery slope here. There is nothing beyond donāt disrespect or appropriate Native American culture. Thats all. Itās not me or any other liberal who is telling you this. Itās Native Americans. The writer of the article that started this current situation was only repeating what heās heard from Native Americans. Itās offensive to them.Ā Ā You guys seem to believe that we liberals create this stuff. We donāt. All we do is listen to those who say they are offended and, if we think the complaint is just, we empathize with them and agree with them. Thats all we do. In the case of Native Americans most liberals believe that complaints about cultural appropriation are generally just given the history. We might not agree with other complaints from other groups. It depends on the details. Which is why slippery slopes donāt exist.Ā 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Just for Tim. This is the reality of cultural appropriation Ā https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy8xa7trJy6/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ== I donāt use instagram, donāt have a login. Feel free to tell me what it says . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 2, 2023 Why is this still a topic? Ā Race Baiters stillĀ going after an elementary kid for internet clicks? Ā JFC.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 42 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Why is this still a topic? Ā Race Baiters stillĀ going after an elementary kid for internet clicks? Ā JFC.Ā Nobody is going after the kid, but the act is racist and shouldnāt be done.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,908 Posted December 2, 2023 Meh if you go to NFL games or support the NFL by watching the league. The NFL supports canceling this kid. They've made the message very clear. YOU ARE RACIST! THIS KID IS RACIST! It's YOUR fault black people commit crimes. I'm surprised you guys still don't understand this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted December 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Nobody is going after the kid, but the act is racist and shouldnāt be done.Ā Now it's racist for a Native American kid to wear his Native American team's colors?Ā Ā Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I donāt use instagram, donāt have a login. Feel free to tell me what it says . its basically a kid walking around UCLA one time in Chinese clothes, the hat/long dress asking students what they think and them acting crazy, then he goes to China town and everyone loves it he also does it in a sombrero and poncho and same results Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: its basically a kid walking around UCLA one time in Chinese clothes, the hat/long dress asking students what they think and them acting crazy, then he goes to China town and everyone loves it he also does it in a sombrero and poncho and same results Ā Gotcha. Still trying to make the same argument: liberals are the only ones that care about this, the supposed victims donāt care at all.Ā Ā Itās an old argument and itās not always without merit, but in most cases itās pretty weak. As I pointed out earlier, liberals do not originate these complaints.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Gotcha. Still trying to make the same argument: liberals are the only ones that care about this, the supposed victims donāt care at all.Ā Ā Itās an old argument and itās not always without merit, but in most cases itās pretty weak. As I pointed out earlier, liberals do not originate these complaints.Ā Right Iām sure latinx came straight from the border jumpersĀ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Right Iām sure latinx came straight from the border jumpersĀ It came from gay Latino communities:Ā https://elcentro.colostate.edu/about/why-latinx/#:~:text=Latinx is the gender-neutral,to challenge the gender binary. Why would you have a problem with it?Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: It came from gay Latino communities:Ā https://elcentro.colostate.edu/about/why-latinx/#:~:text=Latinx is the gender-neutral,to challenge the gender binary. Why would you have a problem with it?Ā Cause itās idiotic.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Cause itās idiotic.Ā Why? Gay Latinos wanted their own identity? Why do you care?Ā See this is the thing about you anti-woke guys I donāt get, if people want to call themselves different things, or be different people, why not let them do it? Why not treat them with respect? Iāve never understood the hostility.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Why? Gay Latinos wanted their own identity? Why do you care?Ā See this is the thing about you anti-woke guys I donāt get, if people want to call themselves different things, or be different people, why not let them do it? Why not treat them with respect? Iāve never understood the hostility.Ā Nope go for it. Donāt make it a hate crime to mis gender or for me to not use some stupid wordĀ And they have their own identity. Itās called El Phago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Nope go for it. Donāt make it a hate crime to mis gender or for me to not use some stupid wordĀ And they have their own identity. Itās called El Phago Got it. Youāre homophobic.Ā Ā Also itās not a hate crime to use offensive language. Itās just rude and stupid.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Got it. Youāre homophobic.Ā Ā Also itās not a hate crime to use offensive language. Itās just rude and stupid.Ā Iām afraid of gays now? Ā Cool story. I donāt care if you suck d!ck or not. Try again. Iām pro gay marriage.Ā Ā the rise of Jordan Peterson was because Canada made it a hate crime for compelled speech. IE forcing someone to use pronounsĀ so yes weāve seen it in the western world and little soy boys love them some Trudeau and think it would be great here.Ā Ā And for what itās worth not only would I never use Latinx. Iād never call them Latino or anything else. Hispanic is a non gendered word that already exists and solved that problem. But keep going with more nonsenseĀ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2023 14 hours ago, League Champion said: Or no they all wear grey. Home Team dark grey, away team light greyĀ Why would appropriation of the Colors of the Confederate States of america be acceptable?Ā Seems to me that could offend southerners if northern teams did so, and it could offend african americans and those who bleed for them just so we will know how morally superior they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Why would appropriation of the Colors of the Confederate States of america be acceptable?Ā Seems to me that could offend southerners if northern teams did so, and it could offend african americans and those who bleed for them just so we will know how morally superior they are. Youāre destroying yourself with arguments like this one even in jest. Terrible:Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Iām afraid of gays now? Ā Cool story. I donāt care if you suck d!ck or not. Try again. Iām pro gay marriage.Ā Ā the rise of Jordan Peterson was because Canada made it a hate crime for compelled speech. IE forcing someone to use pronounsĀ so yes weāve seen it in the western world and little soy boys love them some Trudeau and think it would be great here.Ā Ā And for what itās worth not only would I never use Latinx. Iād never call them Latino or anything else. Hispanic is a non gendered word that already exists and solved that problem. But keep going with more nonsenseĀ I called you homophobic, accurately, because you used an anti-gay slur.Ā Ā I donāt really give a crap about the word Latinx. Youāre the one who brought it up. My point is that if people want to call themselves that I donāt care. Youāre the one that does. The difference between us is that I dont want to get all up in peoples business. You do. You want to tell them what to call themselves. You want to tell them what medical decisions they can make. You want to control their lives.Ā Ā I will repeat; woke is about treating all people with dignity and respect and shunning those who donāt.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Youāre destroying yourself with arguments like this one even in jest. Terrible:Ā Fa Cough Ā Find another 9 year old to excoriate or another deceased person toĀ defecate onĀ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,765 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Fa Cough You already tried that too. It wasnāt witty the first time.Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I called you homophobic, accurately, because you used an anti-gay slur.Ā Ā I donāt really give a crap about the word Latinx. Youāre the one who brought it up. My point is that if people want to call themselves that I donāt care. Youāre the one that does. The difference between us is that I dont want to get all up in peoples business. You do. You want to tell them what to call themselves. You want to tell them what medical decisions they can make. You want to control their lives.Ā Ā I will repeat; woke is about treating all people with dignity and respect and shunning those who donāt.Ā when have I ever said I want in peoples business, I am the most libertarian person on the board.Ā Do whatever you want, dont FORCE your nonsense on others and just like you idiots use the word homophobic to mean you are anti-gay when the actual definition is to be afraid of homos.Ā And here you are trying to police words that I say, when there is no homophobia involved.Ā I understand libtards can't take jokes. fwiw El Phago is what my gay conservative standup friend goes by Ā Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: You already tried that too. It wasnāt witty the first time.Ā Wittier than any of the merconium which leaks from your face hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites