This economy is so bad

[weepaws 3,160]

39 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

What about if I'm from some tribe that's never heard of christianity?  I burn too?  You understand that the world is a big place and communication has been difficult other than the last 30 years or so.  So I'm in some african tribe 200 years ago I just burn when I die?

You can have your god with those stupid rules

Opps another mistake made by you,  you’ve now put God Into a tiny box.  

God can reach anybody, God is the creator of all things.  

Philippians 2:10-11.  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, and that Every Tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of God the Father. 

God is love, mercy , grace.  Every knee will know a Him of Him, but like yourself wide is the Gates to hell, most will turn away from him, God gave us a great gift, 1 His Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior, another great gift is free will, you get to choose hell or heaven.  That now concludes Bible lesson one for you  

HTH.  God bless you, I hope. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden has done nothing to add these jobs. The economy continues to rebound from the Covid years but not because of anything Biden did or didn’t do. 

Presidents have very little power to create either short term prosperity or short term economic woes. This constant giving Biden credit or blaming him is lazy, dumb thinking IMO. 
 

Long term effects are different and here a President’s actions are far more palpable. We are only beginning to suffer from Donald Trump’s disastrous tariffs and rejection of the Trans Pacific Partnership  the results will be bad for years to come no matter what Biden does; unfortunately Biden has done little to lift these tariffs which makes the situation even worse. 

I think you are wrong here. Without the covid stimulus we would’ve gone into a major depression. So I credit both Trump and Biden for saving us from that

[Mike Hunt 274]

On 1/4/2024 at 3:47 PM, Raven Fan said:

Good luck with these imbeciles.  Biden's 100% responsible for inflation that took off as soon as he took office due to Trump destroying supply chains and adding $8T to the debt BUT Biden gets zero credit for jobs that went away under Trump and came back under Biden.

The mind of the low IQ cultist at work.

Keep up the good work boyo, trying to discuss anything with these cretins is a thankless job. 

 

I am not a Trump guy.  I voted for Biden, but jobs lost due to COVID shutdowns and then returned are not job creation.

Did "BeachGuy23" get banned?

[Raven Fan 362]

7 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

 

I am not a Trump guy.  I voted for Biden, but jobs lost due to COVID shutdowns and then returned are not job creation.

Did "BeachGuy23" get banned?

Why are you asking me about some other poster?

So in regular times, if a job is lost and that person finds another job, does that count as a job created?

Regardless, MILLIONS more are working now than ever worked under Trump.  Like BIGLY MILLIONS.

Biden solved Trumpflation, let the Fed do their work to achieve a soft landing, all while producing GDP gains the like never seen under Trump and a skyrocketing market.

Facts over feelz boyos.  Facts over feelz every single time. 

[seafoam1 2,885]

7 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Why are you asking me about some other poster?

So in regular times, if a job is lost and that person finds another job, does that count as a job created?

Regardless, MILLIONS more are working now than ever worked under Trump.  Like BIGLY MILLIONS.

Biden solved Trumpflation, let the Fed do their work to achieve a soft landing, all while producing GDP gains the like never seen under Trump and a skyrocketing market.

Facts over feelz boyos.  Facts over feelz every single time. 

what?

[WhiteWonder 2,712]

19 hours ago, weepaws said:

 

God can reach anybody,

if God can reach anyone and everyone, why do people preach? why do they try to "convert" others? Should be no need, God will reach them...  If there is a need to spread his word, then you prove Raven's Fan's point. 

[WhiteWonder 2,712]

2 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Why are you asking me about some other poster?

So in regular times, if a job is lost and that person finds another job, does that count as a job created?

Regardless, MILLIONS more are working now than ever worked under Trump.  Like BIGLY MILLIONS.

Biden solved Trumpflation, let the Fed do their work to achieve a soft landing, all while producing GDP gains the like never seen under Trump and a skyrocketing market.

Facts over feelz boyos.  Facts over feelz every single time. 

If someone lost their job because of Covid, and then found a brand new job that didn't exist before Covid, all that's been done is replacing one job with another (assuming their old position never returned). You havn't actually created an additional job in the workforce. 

As I'm sure has been mentioned a hundred times in this thread already, a lot of "job creation" numbers for 2023 are including people returning to work who were either temporarily laid off or terminated during the height of the pandemic. In many cases the word job recovery is much more accurate than 'job creation'... but job creation sounds better leading into an election year. Job recovery was bound to happen no matter which monkey was in office. 

I'm not really a trump guy but he didn't get the luxury of stepping into office ALREADY in the tailwind of a recovering stock market in 2021. That's what Joey got and still, managed to F it up for a quite a while. Inflation is still here, mortgage rates the highest they have been in nearly 25 years, inflation still the highest it's been since probably 2008. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

If someone lost their job because of Covid, and then found a brand new job that didn't exist before Covid, all that's been done is replacing one job with another (assuming their old position never returned). You havn't actually created an additional job in the workforce. 

As I'm sure has been mentioned a hundred times in this thread already, a lot of "job creation" numbers for 2023 are including people returning to work who were either temporarily laid off or terminated during the height of the pandemic. In many cases the word job recovery is much more accurate than 'job creation'... but job creation sounds better leading into an election year. Job recovery was bound to happen no matter which monkey was in office. 

I'm not really a trump guy but he didn't get the luxury of stepping into office ALREADY in the tailwind of a recovering stock market in 2021. That's what Joey got and still, managed to F it up for a quite a while. Inflation is still here, mortgage rates the highest they have been in nearly 25 years, inflation still the highest it's been since probably 2008. 

I’m afraid you have as little credibility as people who claim that Biden deserves 100% of the credit. The truth lies in the middle, of course 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

The unemployment rate in 2019 was 3.6 pct. The unemployment rate in 2023 was 3.7 pct. The total of unemployed people in 2019 was 5.9 million. The total of unemployed people in 2023 was 6.3 million. Yet somehow 14 million jobs were created.  Game. Set. Match.  

[WhiteWonder 2,712]

16 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I’m afraid you have as little credibility as people who claim that Biden deserves 100% of the credit. The truth lies in the middle, of course 

i'm afraid you have as little credibility as anyone else on this message board as well. Idk why you are reaching here. I never made any claims on the amount of credit Biden deserved (credit for what, anyway?).  

[Ron_Artest 1,279]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The unemployment rate in 2019 was 3.6 pct. The unemployment rate in 2023 was 3.7 pct. The total of unemployed people in 2019 was 5.9 million. The total of unemployed people in 2023 was 6.3 million. Yet somehow 14 million jobs were created.  Game. Set. Match.  

This is a guy that never went to college.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

This is a guy that never went to college.

Please explain with those numbers that 14 million jobs were “created”. And this is the guy that thinks that average and mean are the same. Lol. So go ahead and explain. You won’t. Cuz you can’t.  Lol. 

[weepaws 3,160]

54 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

if God can reach anyone and everyone, why do people preach? why do they try to "convert" others? Should be no need, God will reach them...  If there is a need to spread his word, then you prove Raven's Fan's point. 

People are fools and sinners, people need to be reminded of God’s Grace, Mercy, and Love, only God can convert a lost sinner like yourself. No one but God can bring one to Christ, you can hear God’s Word all day, but if you don’t believe and accept Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior its because the Love, Grace, Mercy of God isn’t in you, you’ve chosen Hell . 

We preach to keep on teaching, why do people keep getting education, they need to keep learning.  

To spread the Word is to edify people, people is a way God reaches people to teach them the Word, 

HTH.  God bless, I hope. 

 

[WhiteWonder 2,712]

4 minutes ago, weepaws said:

People are fools and sinners, people need to be reminded of God’s Grace, Mercy, and Love, only God can convert a lost sinner like yourself. No one but God can bring one to Christ, you can hear God’s Word all day, but if you don’t believe and accept Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior its because the Love, Grace, Mercy of God isn’t in you, you’ve chosen Hell . 

We preach to keep on teaching, why do people keep getting education, they need to keep learning.  

To spread the Word is to edify people, people is a way God reaches people to teach them the Word, 

HTH.  God bless, I hope. 

 

People continue to get an education because the world around us is ever changing. Math, Science, History, the Arts, etc are ever evolving. 

do the teachings of the lord change? sure, the bible may get revisions but don't the principles remain? preachers just invent new ways to apply those teachings so they can continue to push their beliefs onto others. 

 

God bless

[Ron_Artest 1,279]

40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Please explain with those numbers that 14 million jobs were “created”. And this is the guy that thinks that average and mean are the same. Lol. So go ahead and explain. You won’t. Cuz you can’t.  Lol. 

Well there was this thing called covid where a bunch of people lost their jobs.  Then when covid ended and the economy recovered they got jobs again.

14 million more people working now than when Biden took office.

I'm sorry this hurts you.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Well there was this thing called covid where a bunch of people lost their jobs.  Then when covid ended and the economy recovered they got jobs again.

14 million more people working now than when Biden took office.

I'm sorry this hurts you.

. Minor in finance guy strikes again ! 

[WhiteWonder 2,712]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Well there was this thing called covid where a bunch of people lost their jobs.  Then when covid ended and the economy recovered they got jobs again.

14 million more people working now than when Biden took office.

I'm sorry this hurts you.

so the feather in Bidens hat is nothing more than the timing of when he took office? What great measures did he take to recover (not create) lost jobs that wouldn't have otherwise happened organically during the recovery process from any pandemic, under any president?

does he have another feather in his cap to point to for his 2024 campaign? Honestly asking. Curious what he's really done. ...and no im not a "Trump guy" although given no choice but these two, I will vote for him again.

[Ron_Artest 1,279]

18 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

so the feather in Bidens hat is nothing more than the timing of when he took office? What great measures did he take to recover (not create) lost jobs that wouldn't have otherwise happened organically during the recovery process from any pandemic, under any president?

does he have another feather in his cap to point to for his 2024 campaign? Honestly asking. Curious what he's really done. ...and no im not a "Trump guy" although given no choice but these two, I will vote for him again.

Yeah pretty much.  He did the right things IMO to get the country going again but the recovery was inevitable and he didn't f@ck it up.  But that's the way things work.  If you're gonna blame Biden for inflation because he was in office when it took off, then he also will take credit for the recovery which is what helped bring the inflation.

And we didn't have a recession so yeah he's gonna run on the economy doing well as he should.

[weepaws 3,160]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

People continue to get an education because the world around us is ever changing. Math, Science, History, the Arts, etc are ever evolving. 

do the teachings of the lord change? sure, the bible may get revisions but don't the principles remain? preachers just invent new ways to apply those teachings so they can continue to push their beliefs onto others. 

 

God bless

The world around us is ever changing. That’s a great point of why people read/study the Bible.  

The Word doesn’t change, preachers don’t invent new ways, like any teacher they knows more than their students, they teach it, many Christians don’t always understand everything that’s in the Bible, why not help them understand the Bible? 

The Bible shows us God’s character and provides us God’s revelation of Himself to those that don’t understand the Bible, why not have preachers teach them how to understand,  just like educators do outside of the church, yes? 

1. It gives instruction for daily life. 

2   Teaches us how to pray, that’s not an easy one for new Christians, preachers help with that often. 

3. Preachers help explain the Bible, just like any teachers helps explain any text book. why is that a bad thing? 

4.  Preachers help explain how to share the Gospel, very important to any true Christians, Jesus said to go out and reach all creation. 

5.  Preachers help us to understand how the Bible is teaching us how to trust God.  Very important to have a true relationship with God, what’s wrong with that? 

Many reason for preachers to preach the importance of God’s Word, it can save souls like yours, but you choose not to believe, even though like everyone you know it’s true.  God gives us free will, some will choose God, but the masses will choose hell.  

You said God bless at the end of your post, what God would you be speaking off, since you don’t believe? 

HTH.  God bless, I hope. 

[weepaws 3,160]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Well there was this thing called covid where a bunch of people lost their jobs.  Then when covid ended and the economy recovered they got jobs again.

14 million more people working now than when Biden took office.

I'm sorry this hurts you.

Then after those jobs they destroyed the economy once again.  Dog chasing it’s own tail, it’s a very lost and wicked government.  Trust in the Lord, not in man. Amen. 

HTH.  God bless, I hope 

[Gepetto 1,340]

They showed a Trump for President to restore the economy commercial during the Ravens-Steelers game.

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

. Minor in finance guy strikes again ! 

The labor participation rate is a whole percentage point below pre-Covid. They are all economically retarded.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

Initial US employment reports overstated by 439,000 jobs in 2023

8.7 million Americans, a record high, hold multiple jobs to make ends meet

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/initial-us-employment-reports-overstated-jobs

[Raven Fan 362]

35 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Initial US employment reports overstated by 439,000 jobs in 2023

8.7 million Americans, a record high, hold multiple jobs to make ends meet

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/initial-us-employment-reports-overstated-jobs

Hey guise, there's a lot of part time jobs at Christmas!

Cultist astounded!  Cultist fail to question or do any basic research on their own, instead rely only on their alt right news sources...

LMFAO

And even with the revisions MILLIONS of jobs created by based Biden in 2023.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Initial US employment reports overstated by 439,000 jobs in 2023

8.7 million Americans, a record high, hold multiple jobs to make ends meet

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/initial-us-employment-reports-overstated-jobs

Called it.  No big deal, it’s easy. 

[MDC 7,249]

Unemployment at 3.7% and the S&P showed 24% gains in 2023.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Unemployment at 3.7% and the S&P showed 24% gains in 2023.  

My 401k is through the roof

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

11 minutes ago, MDC said:

Unemployment at 3.7% and the S&P showed 24% gains in 2023.  

3.6 in 2019. S&P was 29 pct.  Make America 2019 again. 

[thegeneral 3,087]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

My 401k is through the roof

The new complaint is only rich people are getting rich

Trump actually said this with a straight face.

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

3.6 in 2019. S&P was 29 pct.  Make America 2019 again. 

Did he leave office in 2019?

LOL, I love how you cultist just think 2020 doesn't count.  Clearly it does which is why he got tossed on his fat, orange ass and slunk away like the lil' bish that he is.  First president in modern times to not attend his successor's inauguration.

And you cucks worship this little girl...

Love this for you. 

[MDC 7,249]

US unemployment was 6.7% in December 2020. 3.7% today.

Thanks Joe!

[IGotWorms 4,057]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The new complaint is only rich people are getting rich

Trump actually said this with a straight face.

I sure wish I had a billion dollars invested, then that would’ve been a gain of $230 million!

But I’m doing pretty well for little ol’ me, and I’d have to be a real focktard to think Trump, of all people, was going to address extreme wealth and income inequality

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I sure wish I had a billion dollars invested, then that would’ve been a gain of $230 million!

But I’m doing pretty well for little ol’ me, and I’d have to be a real focktard to think Trump, of all people, was going to address extreme wealth and income inequality

Look at this guy. In one post he’s looking down on working people, then here he is acting as if he GAF about them. Phony as they come. 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Look at this guy. In one post he’s looking down on working people, then here he is acting as if he GAF about them. Phony as they come. 

LOL hey you hypocrite cuck, you're trying to crack on me for having a rancher...

LMFAO

CUCK

[IGotWorms 4,057]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Look at this guy. In one post he’s looking down on working people, then here he is acting as if he GAF about them. Phony as they come. 

I care more than Donald focking Trump — I can assure you of that!

[seafoam1 2,885]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

I care more than Donald focking Trump — I can assure you of that!

Oh, so you finally sought out help for your TDS? Good job dude. 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I care more than Donald focking Trump — I can assure you of that!

Trump told the parents of dead kids shot in school that they need to get over it

[seafoam1 2,885]

2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump told the parents of dead kids shot in school that they need to get over it

Good. 

[thegeneral 3,087]

2020 didn’t happen for Trump fans. Only the bag of flaming poo that was left for Biden is important when talking about 2020.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,187]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I care more than Donald focking Trump — I can assure you of that!

Trump loves the poorly educated. He’s the only one who does.  You hate them. It’s not their fault.