Teacher Is Going Viral For Punishing Students Who Use Slang In Her Class

[RLLD 4,143]

Teacher Is Going Viral For Punishing Students Who Use Slang In Her Class

 

I think this topic is rather interesting.  Often "slang" will evolve rapidly, so words in common use even as recently as 5 years ago become "uncool" and in diminished use.  So then any specific opposition to a given phrase or word is really misplaced concern IMHO.

But in a classroom......should the teach be able to control language in this manner?

[Engorgeous George 2,123]

Slang, vernacular, idioms, its all useful to communicate but its value is audience dependant.  If the class is voluntary, and if its goal is to teach writting able to reach the widest possible audience the treacher is well within her rights and her assignment to ban slang.  If the class is mandatory and is about writing in general but not about reaching the widedst possible audience she should discuss that slang is effective communication but only to a limited target audience.

[squistion 1,944]

This reminds me of the I Love Lucy episode where Mr. Livermore (played by Hans Conreid) tries to teach the Ricardos and the Mertzs proper English.

I Love Lucy, OK, Swell, Lousy

 

[weepaws 3,152]

It’s good to see a teacher taking control of a classroom, it’s rare today.  The kids will get enough of the slag words from YouTube, Tv, Friends, Parents, Bunnybastard, those outlets will unfortunately keep them in the slag world.  

 

[RLLD 4,143]

8 minutes ago, weepaws said:

It’s good to see a teacher taking control of a classroom, it’s rare today.  The kids will get enough of the slag words from YouTube, Tv, Friends, Parents, Bunnybastard, those outlets will unfortunately keep them in the slag world.  

 

Not sure I agree.  How is inhibiting their expression with regard to these terms any different than banning "there are only two genders"?   I think we need to be cautious when it comes to controlling language. 

[weepaws 3,152]

It’s her class room.  And she isn’t teaching genders.  It’s like being in someone’s home, that kind of language is not to be used under this roof, control to the parents, in this case control to the teacher.  And I hope more teachers will step out and tell the truth about, gender, God made us male/female that would be great.  The kids will survive for an half hour not using the words that she doesn’t want to hear in her class room. Each situation is its own, right now speech is powerful, I like that she is teaching a better way . 

But when that happen they fire the teacher.  

[squistion 1,944]

Some comments from the link that give another perspective:

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This teacher's viral list of banned words/sayings has garnered a ton of backlash online from many Black users who felt that the majority of the words on the list come from African American Vernacular English (AAVE), with one user writing: "Seems anti-black to me."

 

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Another user agreed that the list was targeting AAVE, writing: "'The way you speak is the way you will write,' baby, I use slang/AAVE 98% of the time and I'm an award-winning journalist."

 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Some comments from the link that give another perspective:

 

 

Yes, but I am less-inclined to chase the red meat of nonsense racism being slung about.

I think it unwise to limit speech....and that is what this teacher seems inclined toward, THAT is the problem....not some farcical race baiting nonsense. 

[edjr 6,578]

She should have axed the class their opinion. 

[BrahmaBulls 628]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

Some comments from the link that give another perspective:

 

 

You're saying black people don't understand English and want to force their own made up nonsense into schools?

[squistion 1,944]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

You're saying black people don't understand English and want to force their own made up nonsense into schools?

No, Straw Man, that was not what I was saying. 

[Horseman 2,353]

She needs to add "boyo" and "aware me" to the list.   

[Horseman 2,353]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yes, but I am less-inclined to chase the red meat of nonsense racism being slung about.

I think it unwise to limit speech....and that is what this teacher seems inclined toward, THAT is the problem....not some farcical race baiting nonsense. 

It's an English class.  Proper English ought to be taught in an English class.  Then have one free writing assignment that allows for the students to sound as uneducated as they want.  They'd probably learn something with the comparison.  Write a resume both ways then decide which one to use.

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

It's an English class.  Proper English ought to be taught in an English class.  Then have one free writing assignment that allows for the students to sound as uneducated as they want.  They'd probably learn something with the comparison.  Write a resume both ways then decide which one to use.

That's fine.  Then so long as these students can demonstrate mastery of the requirements, then let them speak as they choose.  We really do not want to encourage the limitation of speech. 

[BrahmaBulls 628]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, Straw Man, that was not what I was saying. 

WTF were you saying?  Speak English and not this new black language

[squistion 1,944]

4 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

WTF were you saying?  Speak English and not this new black language

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

[Horseman 2,353]

20 minutes ago, RLLD said:

That's fine.  Then so long as these students can demonstrate mastery of the requirements, then let them speak as they choose.  We really do not want to encourage the limitation of speech. 

C'mon.  Is it uncommon to require students to speak Spanish in Spanish class?  Nobody is trying to take away free speech.  FFS. 

[weepaws 3,152]

The kids will have plenty of time to speak the way they would like, I think this teacher is helping them by teaching them a different way to communicate for about 30-40 min, oh the shame. 

[weepaws 3,152]

46 minutes ago, squistion said:

Some comments from the link that give another perspective:

 

 

Have no problem with that , freedom is a good thing, they can feel the way they do.  

[Horseman 2,353]

The horror!  For 40 minutes a day these poor kids aren't able to talk like they are in a Snoop Dog video!

[thegeneral 2,889]

This betch be sus, bruh.

[Mike Honcho 5,087]

Man, that's whack!

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

Right off the top, the article starts off with a sentence that I don't agree with and I don't think she's right: "Most would agree that a teacher's job is to create a safe space for all students to express themselves."  I don't think a teacher's "job" is to "create a safe space".  The classroom is the classroom, period.  You're there to learn, they're there to teach.  I think "Most would agree" with that.  With that, I'm guessing I won't agree with her stance on the situation.  We'll see.

I read what was posted and I completely agree with the teacher.  The teacher is tasked with the job to educate these students to be writers, in a formal setting... it is NOT a creative writing class.

I see nothing wrong with the punishment.  If the kid thinks they're being unjustly penalized, prove it in writing.  The student might win.

The tweet from "Saint" is looking to make it a racial issue.  My nephew and most of his friends are white... they use tons of words on this list.  "Saint" comes off as a typical leftist.  'Teacher is white, I am black and use these words, therefore it's racist'.  See

Ditto Jax

Ditto Alyssa Rose

Props to khyla_ed and Jac Jax for using common sense

 

Props to Brindille for not making it about race.  I simply disagree with her.  Yes, language does always revolve, but one thing that has NEVER changed is slang being written into formal writing.  NO ONE ever writes "Dude" in formal writing... or "Party On", or "Hang loose" or anything else like that.  Those are "white" slang terms from so clearly omitting slang isn't racist or evolving to include certain types of slang but not others.

 

Looks like the author never actually took a stance.

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

6 hours ago, weepaws said:

It’s good to see a teacher taking control of a classroom, it’s rare today.  The kids will get enough of the slag words from YouTube, Tv, Friends, Parents, Bunnybastard, those outlets will unfortunately keep them in the slag world.  

 

Till parents complain and she gets suspended.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

5 hours ago, squistion said:

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

it’s an english class, not an ebonics class Pigeoncuck.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

8 hours ago, squistion said:

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

Who is the journalist and what’s the award? 

[squistion 1,944]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who is the journalist and what’s the award? 

Quoted above taken from the OP.

Helps to read the thread you are commenting on. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Quoted above taken from the OP.

Helps to read the thread you are commenting on. 

It just says another user in the quote. No name or award given. 

[jonnyutah 248]

13 hours ago, squistion said:

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

The grio excellence in journalism award. 

[Bill E. 703]

21 hours ago, RLLD said:

Teacher Is Going Viral For Punishing Students Who Use Slang In Her Class

 

I think this topic is rather interesting.  Often "slang" will evolve rapidly, so words in common use even as recently as 5 years ago become "uncool" and in diminished use.  So then any specific opposition to a given phrase or word is really misplaced concern IMHO.

But in a classroom......should the teach be able to control language in this manner?

I taught Accounting and Info Tech 15-25 years ago at a 2 year jr. college and could not understand what many of my students were trying to say in class.  It was more because of the way they pronounced words rather than the slang but it is similar.  I used to feel bad because they did not realize they could get their degree but would probably never get through an interview because of the way they communicate.  If school is to prepare you for the real world the teacher is doing them a favor but like weepaw said TV and society will undo most of what the teacher is trying to do. 

[Bill E. 703]

20 hours ago, weepaws said:

...right now speech is powerful, I like that she is teaching a better way . 

But when that happen they fire the teacher.  

Agree.  (its happens though)

[Engorgeous George 2,123]

19 hours ago, squistion said:

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

Awarded by who?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,915]

5 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

The grio excellence in journalism award. 

[RLLD 4,143]

58 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

I taught Accounting and Info Tech 15-25 years ago at a 2 year jr. college and could not understand what many of my students were trying to say in class.  It was more because of the way they pronounced words rather than the slang but it is similar.  I used to feel bad because they did not realize they could get their degree but would probably never get through an interview because of the way they communicate.  If school is to prepare you for the real world the teacher is doing them a favor but like weepaw said TV and society will undo most of what the teacher is trying to do. 

This is a fair point.  But I am aware that people who have worked for me were able to speak perfectly well, communicate with ease and professionalism.....but I would occasionally be around them on the train out of the city, and they would be on the phone talking to family or friends and "switch" over into some other form of speaking....

So I think people can separate the illiterate from the literate in many cases....  who they really are is tough to say.   But in those instances they could be perfectly literate and professional in the office, and perfectly illiterate outside.....

[supermike80 1,799]

20 hours ago, squistion said:

That per comments, some find the teachers list of banned words discriminatory against blacks, and that one can use it and still be an award-winning journalist. 

Squish, a white guy, speaking for blacks...again

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Squish, a white guy, speaking for blacks...again

Right.....and if an AA does not comply with them....well....we know how that goes.....

Simple mantra of leftists " Fall in in line BOY, or else...."

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

Unless the students eventually want to get a job where communicating with other people is necessary, I don’t understand why the teacher would focus on this. 

[Drizzay 698]

You use constant slang in a job interview with me, or you constantly say "like", you are immediately taken out of consideration.

 

If you get by using slang in an interview and get the job at Chipotle, then congrats, i guess.

[edjr 6,578]

1 minute ago, Drizzay said:

You use constant slang in a job interview with me, or you constantly say "like", you are immediately taken out of consideration.

 

If you get by using slang in an interview and get the job at Chipotle, then congrats, i guess.

 

[squistion 1,944]

56 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Squish, a white guy, speaking for blacks...again

I wasn't speaking for blacks, I was quoting blacks (see my first post in this thread).