The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 Reading through this thread there are apparently people here who believe that China deliberately released Covid on the world, killing many millions of people, including millions of their own citizens, in order to help Trump get defeated in 2020. There are also people here who believe that the FBI deliberately planned and coordinated Jan 6 in order to….not quite sure what the motive would be for this one. To make Trump look bad? When are you guys going to start realizing that you’re into some crazy sh!t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,744 Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, squistion said: A defendant can't get a change of venue based on the not having a more politically diverse jury pool. Or at least I should say I don't ever remember that being successful. The defendant is afforded a fair and impartial jury of his/her peers. Every effort should be made to ensure that standard is met. Especially when putting a former POTUS on trial for trumped up buIIshit charges in an attempt to avoid having to run against him again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,744 Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Reading through this thread there are apparently people here who believe that China deliberately released Covid on the world, killing many millions of people, including millions of their own citizens, in order to help Trump get defeated in 2020. There are also people here who believe that the FBI deliberately planned and coordinated Jan 6 in order to….not quite sure what the motive would be for this one. To make Trump look bad? When are you guys going to start realizing that you’re into some crazy sh!t? When you realize that your naivete is antiquated and that sinister things are done by sinister people who wish to remain in or regain power. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,443 Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Reading through this thread there are apparently people here who believe that China deliberately released Covid on the world, killing many millions of people, including millions of their own citizens, in order to help Trump get defeated in 2020. There are also people here who believe that the FBI deliberately planned and coordinated Jan 6 in order to….not quite sure what the motive would be for this one. To make Trump look bad? When are you guys going to start realizing that you’re into some crazy sh!t? They aren’t or they are trolling. Not a big mystery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: The defendant is afforded a fair and impartial jury of his/her peers. Every effort should be made to ensure that standard is met. Especially when putting a former POTUS on trial for trumped up buIIshit charges in an attempt to avoid having to run against him again. When has a change of venue been successful because the jury pool is of the wrong political party from the defendant's perspective? I can't think of any time this has happened, can you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,744 Posted January 21 Just now, squistion said: When has a change of venue been successful because the jury pool is of the wrong political party from the defendant's perspective? I can't think of any time this has happened, can you? When has a former POTUS ever been put on trial? For anything? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,281 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, thegeneral said: Guy is delusional, has always had like an 20 word vocabulary, repeats the same tired crap over and over again. He’s definitely losing it more and more though, which is by the way normal. Much like peefoam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, 5-Points said: When has a former POTUS ever been put on trial? For anything? Irrelevant for a change of venue because you don't like that most potential jurors are not of your political party. That dog doesn't hunt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,744 Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, squistion said: Irrelevant for a change of venue because you don't like that most potential jurors are not of your political party. That dog doesn't hunt. You're so blinded by your partisanship that you can't see that this whole dog and pony show is designed to keep the the opposition's nominee from being allowed to run. It's banana republic buIIshit and you support it while claiming the other side is trying to destroy democracy. Take a step back and look at the big picture for one second. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,343 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: You could but you'd have to trust the people picking the jurors and that those jurors are being truthful during the selection process. Also, you have to trust the D.A. to be ethical and I think we can all agree that Alvin Bragg is anything but ethical. Ah I see, so you want to forum shop. It’s not so much an issue about the jury pool then. The NY case isn’t all that compelling anyway. Maybe it becomes moreso but I kinda doubt it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: They aren’t or they are trolling. Not a big mystery. A few are trolling. But there are some who really believe this stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 1,443 Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: A few are trolling. But there are some who really believe this stuff. Right that is the “they aren’t (going to realize)” in the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, zsasz said: It was his own underlings that brought the "Russia" thing forward. I'm not really sure why the dope played lip service to those people. I’d like to hear about this. Please explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 726 Posted January 21 Haley going after Trump on this. Good for her. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 839 Posted January 21 Glad to see all you sh!tlibs finally admit that Pelosi was in charge of security that day. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Glad to see all you sh!tlibs finally admit that Pelosi was in charge of security that day. Um, no. That hasn't been admitted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Haley going after Trump on this. Good for her. Haley is about to become irrelevant. I think Trump wins Tuesday night by a huge margin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,619 Posted January 21 15 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Reading through this thread there are apparently people here who believe that China deliberately released Covid on the world, killing many millions of people, including millions of their own citizens, in order to help Trump get defeated in 2020. There are also people here who believe that the FBI deliberately planned and coordinated Jan 6 in order to….not quite sure what the motive would be for this one. To make Trump look bad? When are you guys going to start realizing that you’re into some crazy sh!t? 1. No, we just believe fucci illegally funded research he was prohibited from doing and it got out and killed millions of people. Of course for that you idolize the SOB. 2. Not even debatable. The feds knew every major actor long before January 6th. Security was intentionally lax. Pipe bombs seemed to have been planted by fed operatives. The media narrative was scripted beforehand. Lies were told about police injuries and deaths. Citizens were murdered at the hands of police and covered up. The entire justice system has been corrupted especially in the DC circuit. Protesting government power is being criminalized and bootlickers like you cheer it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,619 Posted January 21 34 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Glad to see all you sh!tlibs finally admit that Pelosi was in charge of security that day. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 43 minutes ago, squistion said: Um, no. That hasn't been admitted. You got busted hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted January 21 Just now, seafoam1 said: You got busted hard. Sorry, the only who has said this is Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, jonmx said: 2. Not even debatable. The feds knew every major actor long before January 6th. Security was intentionally lax. Pipe bombs seemed to have been planted by fed operatives. The media narrative was scripted beforehand. Lies were told about police injuries and deaths. Citizens were murdered at the hands of police and covered up. The entire justice system has been corrupted especially in the DC circuit. Protesting government power is being criminalized and bootlickers like you cheer it on. Even if this were plausible, which it absolutely isn’t, it would still make no sense for the FBI to do this. Let’s assume for a moment that you’re correct that the FBI desires a fascist dictatorship run by Democrats (so crazy). What do they gain by January 6? Trump would have been gone in a few days. He was finished. But to believe not only is the media corrupt, the Democrats corrupt, the FBI and CIA corrupt, but that they all conspired together for this joint purpose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Even if this were plausible, which it absolutely isn’t, it would still make no sense for the FBI to do this. Let’s assume for a moment that you’re correct that the FBI desires a fascist dictatorship run by Democrats (so crazy). What do they gain by January 6? Trump would have been gone in a few days. He was finished. But to believe not only is the media corrupt, the Democrats corrupt, the FBI and CIA corrupt, but that they all conspired together for this joint purpose? Why do you keep bringing up a selfie fest? Nobody takes it seriously. You liberals know you are just blowing it out of proportion simply to not talk about the liberals burning down cities, looting and smashing up stores, throwing molotov cocktails at police, killing innocent people and harming countless others. You will not convince anyone other than yourselves the whole lie you have been spreading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: Why do you keep bringing up a selfie fest? Nobody takes it seriously. You liberals know you are just blowing it out of proportion simply to not talk about them burning down cities, looting and smashing up stores, throwing molotov cocktails at police, killing innocent people and harming countless others. You will not convince anyone other than yourselves the whole lie you have been spreading. You’re switching arguments. You’re claiming it was a harmless event, blown way out of proportion. Jon is claiming it was a planned by the FBI and coordinated complete with pipe bombs. The two arguments are contradictory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 Just now, The Real timschochet said: You’re switching arguments. You’re claiming it was a harmless event, blown way out of proportion. Jon is claiming it was a planned by the FBI and coordinated complete with pipe bombs. The two arguments are contradictory. I didn't talk about who was in on it as that's not my point. Of course the FBI and Pelosi and others had a hand in it. Every law official stood down and even opened doors into the capital. My point is, it was nothing but a selfie fest. And you all are making it into something it's not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,394 Posted January 21 29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Even if this were plausible, which it absolutely isn’t, it would still make no sense for the FBI to do this. Let’s assume for a moment that you’re correct that the FBI desires a fascist dictatorship run by Democrats (so crazy). What do they gain by January 6? Trump would have been gone in a few days. He was finished. But to believe not only is the media corrupt, the Democrats corrupt, the FBI and CIA corrupt, but that they all conspired together for this joint purpose? He was finished? They impeached again before leaving office. Nobody thought he was finished, hence the attempts to disqualify him from being able to run again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: Glad to see all you sh!tlibs finally admit that Pelosi was in charge of security that day. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted January 21 39 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Even if this were plausible, which it absolutely isn’t, it would still make no sense for the FBI to do this. Let’s assume for a moment that you’re correct that the FBI desires a fascist dictatorship run by Democrats (so crazy). What do they gain by January 6? Trump would have been gone in a few days. He was finished. But to believe not only is the media corrupt, the Democrats corrupt, the FBI and CIA corrupt, but that they all conspired together for this joint purpose? Crazy is an understatement. It is a completely absurd that anyone could believe that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,915 Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, squistion said: Crazy is an understatement. It is a completely absurd that anyone could believe that. Is it? Or are you an authoritarian bootlicker?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 201 Posted January 21 13 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’d like to hear about this. Please explain. Sessions was appointed by Trump. Rosenstein was appointed by Trump. There never needed to be a special counsel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Thank God. Nasty Pelosi was focking crooked as can be. True liberal hate monger down to the core. Good for biden. As they say, Even broken clock is right twice a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,619 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Even if this were plausible, which it absolutely isn’t, it would still make no sense for the FBI to do this. Let’s assume for a moment that you’re correct that the FBI desires a fascist dictatorship run by Democrats (so crazy). What do they gain by January 6? Trump would have been gone in a few days. He was finished. But to believe not only is the media corrupt, the Democrats corrupt, the FBI and CIA corrupt, but that they all conspired together for this joint purpose? It is not Democrats. It is the elitist. There are elitists in both parties, but in recent years, the Democrats have become completely controlled by the elitists. Christie and Haley are elitists. You don't believe there is any conspiracy, but yet these elitist bastards meet in private and have off the record discussions at places like the world economic forum and plot their agenda. You know what the World Economic Forum number one threat to humanity is? Not starvation or war or disease or nuclear inhalation or global warming. The number one threat to humanity according to the WEF is free speech or what they label misinformation. The agenda of the world's most powerful people is to control information, to control the agenda, to control populations and what they can protests. The purpose of January 6th is to shutdown dissent from those who value individual freedoms especially when it comes to free speech. The elitists know if they can control information and speech, they control the world. Of course in your retarded world, the media has no agenda. The reality is, the media is 100 percent full of bootlickers for the elitists authoritarians. The media pushes their wars, the media pushes their lockdowns and medical mandates. The media pushes their global warming controls. The media pushes the destruction of the family. The media speaks in a unified voice and has villianized normal Americans as terrorists. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted January 21 1 minute ago, jonmx said: It is not Democrats. It is the elitist. There are elitists in both parties, but in recent years, the Democrats have become completely controlled by the elitists. Christie and Haley are elitists. You don't believe there is any conspiracy, but yet these elitist bastards meet in private and have off the record discussions at places like the world economic forum and plot their agenda. You know what the World Economic Forum number one threat to humanity is? Not starvation or war or disease or nuclear inhalation or global warming. The number one threat to humanity according to the WEF is free speech or what they call misinformation. The agenda of the world's most powerful people is to control information, to control the agenda, to control populations and what they can protests. The purpose of January 6th is to shutdown dissent from those who value individual freedoms especially when it comes to free speech. The elitists know if they can control information and speech, they control the world. Of course of your retarded world, the media has no agenda. The reality is, the media is 100 percent full of bootlickers for the elitists authoritarians. The media pushes their wars, the media pushes their lockdowns and medical mandates. The media pushes their global warming controls. The media pushes the destruction of the family. The media speaks in a unified voice and has villianized normal Americans as terrorists. It’s a crackpot theory. I’m sad for you that you believe it. Good luck to the Lions today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,619 Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s a crackpot theory. I’m sad for you that you believe it. Good luck to the Lions today. It is only a crackpot theory if you have your head buried in the sand. Unfortunately, it is reality hidden in plain sight. You just have to stop listening to the man behind the curtain and think for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 201 Posted January 21 47 minutes ago, jonmx said: It is not Democrats. It is the elitist. There are elitists in both parties, but in recent years, the Democrats have become completely controlled by the elitists. Christie and Haley are elitists. You don't believe there is any conspiracy, but yet these elitist bastards meet in private and have off the record discussions at places like the world economic forum and plot their agenda. You know what the World Economic Forum number one threat to humanity is? Not starvation or war or disease or nuclear inhalation or global warming. The number one threat to humanity according to the WEF is free speech or what they label misinformation. The agenda of the world's most powerful people is to control information, to control the agenda, to control populations and what they can protests. The purpose of January 6th is to shutdown dissent from those who value individual freedoms especially when it comes to free speech. The elitists know if they can control information and speech, they control the world. Of course in your retarded world, the media has no agenda. The reality is, the media is 100 percent full of bootlickers for the elitists authoritarians. The media pushes their wars, the media pushes their lockdowns and medical mandates. The media pushes their global warming controls. The media pushes the destruction of the family. The media speaks in a unified voice and has villianized normal Americans as terrorists. And the poster boy for this revolution is a man who many see as the epitome of 1980s power elite? A man who has nothing in common with the rank and file? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, zsasz said: And the poster boy for this revolution is a man who many see as the epitome of 1980s power elite? A man who has nothing in common with the rank and file? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,619 Posted January 21 12 minutes ago, zsasz said: And the poster boy for this revolution is a man who many see as the epitome of 1980s power elite? A man who has nothing in common with the rank and file? The elite establishment forces have not been so uniformly aligned against anyone since JFK. Being mega-wealthy can be enough to get you in the club, but it does not mean you accepted it. It is painfully obvious Trump is not part of the establishment elite authoritarian bastards, but is the target of such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites