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I am confused why the existance of hell is taught to Christians when it's not even in the Bible. Who came up with the concept of hell?

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Hell is being removed from God's grace. It's not a place people are sent to be punished. 

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9 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I am confused why the existance of hell is taught to Christians when it's not even in the Bible. Who came up with the concept of hell?

It's a quality duality of life view on how to live. Moral vs. amoral...love vs. hate...right vs. wrong... How else are we supposed to view life?:dunno:

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2 Peter 2:4.  Amen.  The fear of Hell , makes one want to think it doesn’t exists.  

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26 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I am confused why the existance of hell is taught to Christians when it's not even in the Bible. Who came up with the concept of hell?

I did.

It's essentially San Francisco with bad weather and no air conditioning.

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Just now, Voltaire said:

I did.

It's San Francisco with bad weather and no air conditioning.

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It's being trapped in a room with Peefoamosexual for all of eternity.

 

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1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's being trapped in a room with Peefoamosexual for all of eternity.

 

Go vote for your dream lover.

 

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No, there isn’t a hell or a God for that matter.

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Matthew 25:

 

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

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Mark 9:44-48
 
New International Version
 
 

[44] [a] 45 And if your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. [46] [b] 47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where

“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
    and the fire is not quenched.’[c]

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Also I'm just googling this.  There are more.  :dunno: 

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14 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Thanks Ayn Rand...

A compliment! 
 

 

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1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Give me one piece of ACTUAL evidence of a heaven or hell without using the bible. 

The Universe is kinda big you know. Middle of earth is pretty darn hot and maybe that is hell?

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1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Give me one piece of ACTUAL evidence of a heaven or hell without using the bible. 

The immaculate construction and perfection  of the universe gives some moments of the possibility. 

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8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Give me one piece of ACTUAL evidence of a heaven or hell without using the bible. 

FWIW, I was addressing the assertion that it wasn't mentioned in the Bible.

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14 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

The immaculate construction and perfection  of the universe gives some moments of the possibility. 

Yeah, but you don’t know what caused it. You’re just a attributing it to what you want to think. 
That’s the problem with religion is if you don’t know you just say well it’s “god”.

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37 minutes ago, peenie said:

No, there isn’t a hell or a God for that matter.

God is most certainly real. If you haven't seen the evidence yet, it just means you haven't looked. I was of the same belief a little over a year ago until God made it clear that he exists.

Most people never get the intense experience that I went through.

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1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

God is most certainly real. If you haven't seen the evidence yet, it just means you haven't looked. I was of the same belief a little over a year ago until God made it clear that he exists.

Most people never get the intense experience that I went through.

Give me one piece that you can factually attribute to any god without using the bible. 

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4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, but you don’t know what caused it. You’re just a attributing it to what you want to think. 
That’s the problem with religion is if you don’t know you just say well it’s “god”.

I just don't think there is a "problem" with religion. There's simply a problem with humans on this planet. No matter what they believe ir don't believe. 

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Just now, seafoam1 said:

I just don't think there is a "problem" with religion. There's simply a problem with humans on tjis planet. No matter what they believe ir son't believe. 

Fair. 🍻

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1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Hell is being removed from God's grace. It's not a place people are sent to be punished. 

Agreed. Hell doesn't exist as some eternal damnation.

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5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Agreed. Hell doesn't exist as some eternal damnation.

There should be a place where you could send all very selfish people together, that could be a hell to them having to deal with each other.

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1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Give me one piece that you can factually attribute to any god without using the bible. 

This is a tricky one. I have my own experience, which isn't going to provide any hard evidence.

My biggest piece of hard evidence is this: Go look for all of the research on Children who remember past lives. There shouldn't be a single instance of a child remembering a past life of someone who died already. Yet there are thousands of these stories.

How does this prove that God exists? Well, it depends on how you define God. God, from what I understand, isn't some separate entity. It's the source of all energy in the universe. It ties everything together. I believe that when people die, their consciousness remains and ascends to a higher dimension from our dimension, the third dimension. There are lots of stories around this with near death experiences.

I understand being skeptical of these stories, but it's either every person who has a story like this is lying or is insane. Having been the skeptic, but then having an experience myself, there's no way all of these stories are bunk.

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15 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

There should be a place where you could send all very selfish people together, that could be a hell to them having to deal with each other.

The Geek Club :dunno:

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14 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

This is a tricky one. I have my own experience, which isn't going to provide any hard evidence.

My biggest piece of hard evidence is this: Go look for all of the research on Children who remember past lives. There shouldn't be a single instance of a child remembering a past life of someone who died already. Yet there are thousands of these stories.

How does this prove that God exists? Well, it depends on how you define God. God, from what I understand, isn't some separate entity. It's the source of all energy in the universe. It ties everything together. I believe that when people die, their consciousness remains and ascends to a higher dimension from our dimension, the third dimension. There are lots of stories around this with near death experiences.

I understand being skeptical of these stories, but it's either every person who has a story like this is lying or is insane. Having been the skeptic, but then having an experience myself, there's no way all of these stories are bunk.

Not insane. But I think this gets ingrained in children at young age and they just follow what their parents do in the same way that if you put a golf club in a kids hand and said this is the greatest thing ever their entire life odds are they’re going to believe that GOLF is the greatest thing ever, and they will devote their life to it. 

I see it all the time during Bible camp. Parents throw their kids into it and then they rant and rave about how what a great time they had, and how they believe and all this nonsense. Well, of course they do. You didn’t expose them to anything other than what you are already thought. 
 

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18 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

This is a tricky one. I have my own experience, which isn't going to provide any hard evidence.

My biggest piece of hard evidence is this: Go look for all of the research on Children who remember past lives. There shouldn't be a single instance of a child remembering a past life of someone who died already. Yet there are thousands of these stories.

How does this prove that God exists? Well, it depends on how you define God. God, from what I understand, isn't some separate entity. It's the source of all energy in the universe. It ties everything together. I believe that when people die, their consciousness remains and ascends to a higher dimension from our dimension, the third dimension. There are lots of stories around this with near death experiences.

I understand being skeptical of these stories, but it's either every person who has a story like this is lying or is insane. Having been the skeptic, but then having an experience myself, there's no way all of these stories are bunk.

Kinda how I feel about Bigfoot and to many stories and sightings for it not to exist, where there is smoke there is fire.

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16 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

The Geek Club :dunno:

 There can’t be a purgatory without The Geek Cub. 😇&👹

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18 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Kinda how I feel about Bigfoot and to many stories and sightings for it not to exist, where there is smoke there is fire.

Perfect example. Bigfoot. It gets passed down generation after generation that this thing exists yet nobody ever seems to see one or prove that they exist. My exact point.

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