Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[Horseman 2,358]

53 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Also I missed the interview so I won't comment on it.  If anyone has a link to it please provide.   

 

 

[Gepetto 1,288]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

"It's gotta stop" for a pre-taped interview?   When interviewing a presidential candidate?   That producer should be fired if that's what you think.

Brett B said he after it aired he had to get it wrapped up so it could air at the top of the 6:00 pm EST hour. He did say she was 15 minutes late and he had a lot more questions he wanted to get to.

[Horseman 2,358]

8 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Brett B said he after it aired he had to get it wrapped up so it could air at the top of the 6:00 pm EST hour. He did say she was 15 minutes late and he had a lot more questions he wanted to get to.

Ok.  Like I said, if true, it would be incredibly stupid.  Run cartoons at the top of the hour if you have to, It's your only chance with Kamala, fill the tape.  

[Horseman 2,358]

I could watch that one piece over and over.  

80% think the country is on the wrong track and you've been in charge for 3.5 years.  

Yeah, but Trump is running for office!

[Beaker15 233]

My favorite part is when Kamala says come on you know what I am talking about.  He says no I actually don't 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

7 minutes ago, Beaker15 said:

My favorite part is when Kamala says come on you know what I am talking about.  He says no I actually don't 

I love the part where she says, "It's Morbin' Time!" and proceeds to suck the life out of America.

[The Real timschochet 6,413]

Two more national polls: 

Fox- Trump by 2 points. 

Marist: Harris by 5 points 

The Fox poll is the first one in 2 weeks that shows Trump ahead nationally, making it an outlier by definition. The Marist poll represents Harris’ largest lead so it may be an outlier as well. 

[squistion 1,947]

The complete Kamala interview on Fox for those who may have missed it in its entirety.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,413]

Quinnipiac: 

Georgia: Trump by 7 

North Carolina: Harris by 2 

7 pts either way seems very unlikely. 

[Horseman 2,358]

36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The Fox poll is the first one in 2 weeks that shows Trump ahead nationally, making it an outlier by definition. 

You suck at lying. 

8 hours ago, Horseman said:

InsiderAdvantage  Trump +2 

And go ahead and give us the Merriam Webster definition of outlier because than ain't it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Harris came off as unstable in the fox interview. 

[TrailGuy 552]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

 

Plant. And a cuck

[thegeneral 2,903]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Plant. And a cuck

[Horseman 2,358]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

 

Anyone that takes over 60 seconds to ask a simple question is as dumb as the metal helmet geeks.  Points deduction for English not being his first language and more points for not proving he's even a citizen.  Then Trump crushes him, even without the points deduction.  

 

[Horseman 2,358]

Betting odds unmoved. Which is an ok sign for Kackala after that chit show today. 

Betting odds pretty locked in now as the props open up. Somebody is going to need to explain what that means to the dullards like Tim. 

Koochala going to win the popular vote by less than 2.5%.  Book it.  

[The Real timschochet 6,413]

Consistent opinion is that Kamala slayed it tonight in the Fox interview. 

[Horseman 2,358]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Consistent opinion is that Kamala slayed it tonight in the Fox interview. 

From where?

Link?

Oh shucks, you got me, another lie. 

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

Emhoff seemed unhinged in that interview. She couldn't answer honestly because the public doesn't like her policies, and she couldn't lie because we've seen her policies in action. All she had to offer was angry tirades about Trump.

Sad.

[League Champion 1,896]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Consistent opinion is that Kamala slayed it tonight in the Fox interview. 

You're not even good at trolling. She's a DEI Ghew Guzzler 

[jonmx 2,424]

4 hours ago, Horseman said:

From where?

Link?

Oh shucks, you got me, another lie. 

 

And why do we even care who the experts in the media think did great. What others tell me what to think does not influence me.  Watch the interview and think for yourself.  

Did she tell us her vision and plans?

I did not see anything.  Her only vision is that she is not Trump.  That is only compelling to braindead idiots who have irrational fear of Trump.  

Did she express her qualifications and leadership ability?

She only said she would bring her background to provide new ideas and she is not Trump.  Meaningless dribble.  She even showed some anger and frustration when her anti-Trump rhetoric was challenged and did not dispute or counter when presented with facts.

Did she win over voters in battleground states?

Absolutely not.  Every set of questions were turned into rants about Trump.   Kamala already has the Trump-hating vote (probably 75 percent of her support).   She did not win over anyone new and she turned off the few remaining undecideds with her empty rants.  

I don't need to turn into ABC for their experts to tell me what to think.  Persuasion techniques which rely upon coming from positions of authority only work on wesk-minded easily manipulated people.  Tim being the poster child of this group. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,700]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Consistent opinion is that Kamala slayed it tonight in the Fox interview. 

Another viewing party at Squissy’s SoCal bathhouse?

[League Champion 1,896]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Another viewing party at Squissy’s SoCal bathhouse?

They must of went through a lot of lube  

[TrailGuy 552]

15 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

And why do we even care who the experts in the media think did great. What others tell me what to think does not influence me.  Watch the interview and think for yourself.  

Did she tell us her vision and plans?

I did not see anything.  Her only vision is that she is not Trump.  That is only compelling to braindead idiots who have irrational fear of Trump.  

Did she express her qualifications and leadership ability?

She only said she would bring her background to provide new ideas and she is not Trump.  Meaningless dribble.  She even showed some anger and frustration when her anti-Trump rhetoric was challenged and did not dispute or counter when presented with facts.

Did she win over voters in battleground states?

Absolutely not.  Every set of questions were turned into rants about Trump.   Kamala already has the Trump-hating vote (probably 75 percent of her support).   She did not win over anyone new and she turned off the few remaining undecideds with her empty rants.  

I don't need to turn into ABC for their experts to tell me what to think.  Persuasion techniques which rely upon coming from positions of authority only work on wesk-minded easily manipulated people.  Tim being the poster child of this group. 

All good points.  She didn't do any of this.. why?  She was never asked.  She was asked how many illegals did she let in, when did you notice Biden was senile, do you support transgender surgery, do you think trump supporters are stupid, etc.

Those aren't serious questions.  She wasn't given a chance to say anything.  That "interview" was a joke

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

She’s also getting ripped for her town hall with CTG on black social media. They just ain’t buying it anymore. 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Two more national polls: 

Fox- Trump by 2 points. 

Marist: Harris by 5 points 

The Fox poll is the first one in 2 weeks that shows Trump ahead nationally, making it an outlier by definition. The Marist poll represents Harris’ largest lead so it may be an outlier as well. 

If she is ahead by 5 and it is her largest lead it is currently the outlier. That's how these things work.

[TrailGuy 552]

7 hours ago, Horseman said:

Anyone that takes over 60 seconds to ask a simple question is as dumb as the metal helmet geeks.  Points deduction for English not being his first language and more points for not proving he's even a citizen.  Then Trump crushes him, even without the points deduction.  

 

Nice racism.

Lie #1: 97% of people in the administration support him.   It's 9%. https://www.businessinsider.com/members-trumps-cabinet-just-4-endorsed-him-2024-nbc-2023-7

Lie #2: People came to Washington because of the election, not me.  He told everyone it was rigged and he told everyone to come to DC on that day, it's gonna be wild he said.

Lie #3: Nothing done wrong. "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,

Lie #4: Ashley Babbit was killed nobody was killed. Dementia much?  Babbit isn't somebody?  Also other people died including capitol police. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

Lie #5: we didn't have guns.https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/08/jan6-defendants-guns/

Accidental admission bonus #1: we didn't have guns the others had guns.  We being trump was with the rioters and the others are the police.

Lie #6: day of love: 

Lie #7: All I want is honest elections. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/06/19/trump-2020-election-fraud-rnc-protect-vote/74135356007/

Accidental admission bonus #2: they couldn't get me.  Admits he organized it but falsely thinks that since he said peacefully and patriotically that it absolves him.

Accidental admission bonus #3: I'm willing to take any chance.  Yeah we know

 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

The FOX interview I thought both Kamala and Baier came out of it looking good.

For Baier- he was taking heat almost immediately for the idea he was going to lob softball questions (some from pundits, some from idiots here). Trump's campaign also put out something saying that FOX News was "bought" by the Kamala team. Baier did not lob softballs. He went at Kamala on her positions, he challenged her with video clips of things she said and tried very hard to get her to lock in on answers. At times he came off a little too combative- like he was more determined to get his question in as opposed to letting her answer and I think he did the one thing you don't do at a journalist which is look at a condensed time frame and try to fill that space up. By throwing too much in it became cluttered at times. But still- he made a good showing of himself as a journalist which is why many people view him as one of the only reasons to pay attention to FOX News. One spot where I think they erred- and I'll blame the FOX News producer for it and not Baier- is that they did play only a portion of the clip on what Trump said about the DOJ stuff to Faulkner. They played the full clip earlier in the day but only played part of the clip here. Not sure if it was done with malicious intent but Kamala was right to point out that it was not the full clip and Baier did seem to let it go. 

For Kamala- she had some weak moments obviously. But she didn't tilt into random stream of consciousness stuff. She stayed sharp and focused on what she was trying to get out.  Her strongest moments were in definitively stating she would not be a continuation of the Biden presidency. She presented herself as having different ideas and goals and pledging to work with Republicans across the aisle is a nice reach out moment. Also, for those that questioned her toughness she went right back at Baier in the interview and as they tried to talk over one another she met the challenge and rose above his voice to finish out points. The answer on Biden's mental acuity was about as good as you can get on that topic. I know it's what people want but she isn't just going to throw Biden under the bus. That would turn off as many people as it would bring to her side I'd imagine. She also did a good job in painting Trump as someone who doesn't like when people disagree with him. The strong part was when Baier asked "Are you saying the people who don't support you are wrong?" And she pretty emphatically answered No and that "this is for the presidency of the United States. It isn't supposed to be easy." Again- obviously there were bad moments. She didn't really have a good answer for the 3 and a half years thing. She should have explained the Trump point of running for a decade without saying to Baier, "You get what I'm saying..." But she didn't come off poorly and she should really offer to do another interview or two there. She did a good thing too at the end to make sure to credit Baier for his journalism chops. Trump would be firing missives off all night calling Anderson Cooper or Nicole Wallace a nasty person for the interview. 

She came off as sane and presidential.....I'm not sure that's enough though at this point. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Tl/dr. 

[squistion 1,947]

26 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 She came off as sane and presidential.....I'm not sure that's enough though at this point. 

As I've said before, this was not to win over the Trump supporters or MAGA crowd - they had made up their minds long ago about Kamala and there is nothing she could have said that would have made any difference.

Her target audience was the few remaining undecided voters and convince them she is up to the task to be POTUS and she succeeded admirably IMO.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

As I've said before, this was not to win over the Trump supporters or MAGA crowd - they had made up their minds long ago about Kamala and there is nothing she could have said that would have made any difference.

Her target audience was the few remaining undecided voters and convince them she is up to the task to be POTUS and she succeeded admirably IMO.

I mean I agree on the purpose. I'm speaking to the idea though that even if she is more presidential I think there are people in the middle who will view it as "Under Trump it was this, Under Kamala it is this." And that will carry weight for them. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,700]

She came across as very Presidential as long as she is running for 5th grade home room president.  

[Strike 5,186]

50 minutes ago, squistion said:

As I've said before, this was not to win over the Trump supporters or MAGA crowd - they had made up their minds long ago about Kamala and there is nothing she could have said that would have made any difference.

Her target audience was the few remaining undecided voters and convince them she is up to the task to be POTUS and she succeeded admirably IMO.

No she didn't.  She didn't answer any of the focking questions.  And her line "you gotta take responsibility for what happened in your administration" may come back to bite her.

[jonmx 2,424]

3 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

All good points.  She didn't do any of this.. why?  She was never asked.  She was asked how many illegals did she let in, when did you notice Biden was senile, do you support transgender surgery, do you think trump supporters are stupid, etc.

Those aren't serious questions.  She wasn't given a chance to say anything.  That "interview" was a joke

 

When asked about illegals she could have taken responsibility or address the issue better than just blaming Trump and ignoring the 94 of his initiatives they overturned.   Instead she focused on a bill which her main point was to hire more judges.....for what?  To process the illegals in more quickly.   She is so out of touch she thinks that is the problem. 

[TimHauck 2,615]

14 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Brett B said he after it aired he had to get it wrapped up so it could air at the top of the 6:00 pm EST hour. He did say she was 15 minutes late and he had a lot more questions he wanted to get to.

15 minutes late? Were they only allotting her 15 minutes initially?

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

15 minutes late? Were they only allotting her 15 minutes initially?

His show airs at 6 PM EST.  She had a commitment and couldn't be there to do the interview live.  So she was supposed to be there an hour before his show airs to do the interview.  Her people limited the length as well.  Then she shows up late.  Just throws the whole schedule off and limits the length even more.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Gonna come down to turnout, but I don’t love where this is at for Harris.

Polls have her leading the popular vote by a bit and in many swing states by a tiny bit.

Problem is these polls have underestimated support for Trump in almost every single instance  since 2016. National polls and basically every single swing state poll.

So if that holds true again, this won’t even be particularly close. Not in the electoral college anyway.

Which is mind boggling to me, but I don’t really understand this country anymore. Maybe the world, actually, since you’ve got right wing fascism on the rise in other democracies as well. But it is what it is I guess 

[TimHauck 2,615]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

His show airs at 6 PM EST.  She had a commitment and couldn't be there to do the interview live.  So she was supposed to be there an hour before his show airs to do the interview.  Her people limited the length as well.  Then she shows up late.  Just throws the whole schedule off and limits the length even more.

Here Baier says it was her team that wanted to end it, not him

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

13 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Harris came off as unstable in the fox interview. 

Terrible take. I have some criticisms of her but this is the one thing she nailed. In the face of tough, bad faith questioning, she kept her cool

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Here Baier says it was her team that wanted to end it, not him

 

 

I'm not talking about that.  I have no idea who was asking for the hard stop at the end of the interview.  I have not asserted that her team was trying to throw in the towel.  I suspect it was his team, needing time to prepare the interview for airing at the top of the hour.