5-Points 3,453 Posted August 4, 2024 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump didn’t have to agree to either debate. He agreed to both already. He’s backing out. Are you willing to admit it? He agreed to two debates with Biden. He gave him home field advantage, the ball, let him pick which direction he wanted to go and let him play with a 12 man team because Joe is senile. He never agreed to debate Harris. He will but he won't be giving her the same concessions he gave a senile old man. The fact that she wants those same concessions should tell you something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,962 Posted August 4, 2024 26 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Are you autistic? Serious question. Be careful- HT doesn't like when people ask if others are autistic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,962 Posted August 4, 2024 Both sides have reasons to portray themselves as being on the higher road on the debate stuff and it clearly works as the camps here buy fully the explanations of the candidates they favor. My only thing on the debates is this- leave the audiences out of it. I want to hear the two candidates actually going back and forth without it sounding like a 90's TGIF sitcom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said: If I agree to sell you my house for a specific price by a specific date, and you drop out and refuse to buy it, that offer does not magically extend to whatever random idiot you want to buy my house instead. Everyone knows this. Democrats know this. They know they’re lying and they know you know they’re lying. They don’t care. All they do is lie. Democrat brownshirts. You’re the one lying here. If you agree to sell your house to a corporation and a few weeks later the CEO retires and a new one is chosen, you don’t get to back out of escrow. Trump never agreed to debate Biden; he agreed to debate the Democratic nominee for a President, per the ABC invitation which, for the umpteenth time, DOES NOT MENTION ANY NAMES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 36 minutes ago, 5-Points said: He agreed to two debates with Biden. He gave him home field advantage, the ball, let him pick which direction he wanted to go and let him play with a 12 man team because Joe is senile. He never agreed to debate Harris. He will but he won't be giving her the same concessions he gave a senile old man. The fact that she wants those same concessions should tell you something. Again you’re wrong. He agreed to debate the Democratic nominee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,995 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re the one lying here. If you agree to sell your house to a corporation and a few weeks later the CEO retires and a new one is chosen, you don’t get to back out of escrow. Trump never agreed to debate Biden; he agreed to debate the Democratic nominee for a President, per the ABC invitation which, for the umpteenth time, DOES NOT MENTION ANY NAMES. Tell me you have no idea how contacts work and how contract law works without telling me you have no idea how contacts work and contract law works. Who would have thought that the guy who hires illegals at poverty wages with no contacts or insurance wouldn't know anything about contracts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Tell me you have no idea how contacts work and how contract law works without telling me you have no idea how contacts work and contract law works. Actually it’s something I deal with all the time. It only applies here in a moral way as Trump is under no obligation to attend the debate despite his previous acceptance: But go ahead and feel free to explain what I got wrong on my previous post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,084 Posted August 4, 2024 Kamala will do this Fox debate. It’s fine that Trump needs the assistance. He’s of an advanced age. He likes to act crazy and can’t just do things normally so we have to deal with all the theatrics and stream of consciousness on his online diary. They should absolutely do at least a second one. This should be agreed to as they get this first one set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: Kamala will do this Fox debate. It’s fine that Trump needs the assistance. He’s of an advanced age. He likes to act crazy and can’t just do things normally so we have to deal with all the theatrics and stream of consciousness on his online diary. They should absolutely do at least a second one. This should be agreed to as they get this first one set up. I suspect they will negotiate a new place to debate but it won’t be Fox. Kamala really doesn’t need to agree to anything. He’s the one that needs to debate her not the other way around. BTW, speaking of Trump’s age I’m honestly starting to wonder if there’s something wrong with him beside the usual stuff. He’s slurring words all the time now, keeps misspeaking. Last night was really embarrassing; Newsweek calls it “glitching”: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-glitching-during-rally-sparks-speculation-1934276 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 And speaking of Newsweek, Kamala now leads in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan- not according to one poll but several (based on average): https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-poll-swing-states-1934145 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,084 Posted August 4, 2024 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: I suspect they will negotiate a new place to debate but it won’t be Fox. Kamala really doesn’t need to agree to anything. He’s the one that needs to debate her not the other way around. BTW, speaking of Trump’s age I’m honestly starting to wonder if there’s something wrong with him beside the usual stuff. He’s slurring words all the time now, keeps misspeaking. Last night was really embarrassing; Newsweek calls it “glitching”: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-glitching-during-rally-sparks-speculation-1934276 This little side show Trump is putting on is pretty easy to defuse. Just say fine we can have your debate on Fox only if he agrees to do others. They should do three. If he doesn’t accept he’s a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,995 Posted August 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I suspect they will negotiate a new place to debate but it won’t be Fox. Kamala really doesn’t need to agree to anything. He’s the one that needs to debate her not the other way around. BTW, speaking of Trump’s age I’m honestly starting to wonder if there’s something wrong with him beside the usual stuff. He’s slurring words all the time now, keeps misspeaking. Last night was really embarrassing; Newsweek calls it “glitching”: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-glitching-during-rally-sparks-speculation-1934276 "Our candidate was found to be senile with dementia so I need to turn this around and just start accusing the other side's candidate of having the same thing even though he doesn't, just to make myself feel better. If I say it enough it must be true!!!." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: "Our candidate was found to be senile with dementia so I need to turn this around and just start accusing the other side's candidate of having the same thing even though he doesn't, just to make myself feel better. If I say it enough it must be true!!!." I dunno man. I would have told you before yesterday there was nothing to this (and actually posted that here a few times.) But now I’m not so sure… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,962 Posted August 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: "Our candidate was found to be senile with dementia so I need to turn this around and just start accusing the other side's candidate of having the same thing even though he doesn't, just to make myself feel better. If I say it enough it must be true!!!." Eh- there has been discussion for a long time that Trump has some of his own cognitive issues- it just looks vastly different than it does with Biden right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 343 Posted August 4, 2024 12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Eh- there has been discussion for a long time that Trump has some of his own cognitive issues- it just looks vastly different than it does with Biden right now Trump was born with cognitive issues. Biden definitely got old and developed them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 4, 2024 12 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I know some of you think Trump is winning this battle; I can tell you he isn’t. The problem is he already agreed to ABC. He can say “that was with Biden” all he wants but it won’t fly with most people. He just looks afraid at this point. Simply not true, your response is simply your own wishful thinking. You can start by reading these responses, normal, logical people understand what's going on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 366 Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re the one lying here. If you agree to sell your house to a corporation and a few weeks later the CEO retires and a new one is chosen, you don’t get to back out of escrow. Trump never agreed to debate Biden; he agreed to debate the Democratic nominee for a President, per the ABC invitation which, for the umpteenth time, DOES NOT MENTION ANY NAMES. Tim is teaching a MasterClass in this thread. You know MAGA is nervous when the supposed, "Greatest debator of all time" has to run from the Centrist ABC to safety of FOX News. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,995 Posted August 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, zsasz said: Tim is teaching a MasterClass in this thread. You know MAGA is nervous when the supposed, "Greatest debator of all time" has to run from the Centrist ABC to safety of FOX News. I can tell you slurp all of the delicious talking points at the DNC Glory Hole because you just called ABC "centrist". GTFO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,962 Posted August 4, 2024 Lot of people willing to slurp what Trump feeds them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,183 Posted August 4, 2024 11 hours ago, Strike said: This is untrue. Brett Baier and Martha Maccallum are respected journalists and would have no problem moderating a fair debate. I agree with you on this point. But consider it from her perspective. ANY challenge to her positions is misperceived as "racist" or "mysongynist" or " Fox is far right"....so they have an unnatural fear. Liberals do not condone frank and forthright debate, so when facing it down, it will seem intimidating. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,255 Posted August 4, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 3:43 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: Her descendants had a plantation with slaves. She has no descendants. She had ancestors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 366 Posted August 4, 2024 Harris leading in the polls now; before her VP choice which would give her a bump and the Convention...which would give her a bump. Maybe Trump can attack her personally more? It seems to be working for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted August 4, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: You’re the one lying here. If you agree to sell your house to a corporation and a few weeks later the CEO retires and a new one is chosen, you don’t get to back out of escrow. Trump never agreed to debate Biden; he agreed to debate the Democratic nominee for a President, per the ABC invitation which, for the umpteenth time, DOES NOT MENTION ANY NAMES. Do you ever review in your head how stupid you sound before you post something? He never agreed to debate Biden? Biden was the nominee whom you were so confident in you gambled thousands of dollars away only to have him brain freeze against Trump. Glad you finally admit though that she was chosen and not democratically nominated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Do you ever review in your head how stupid you sound before you post something? He never agreed to debate Biden? Biden was the nominee whom you were so confident in you gambled thousands of dollars away only to have him brain freeze against Trump. Glad you finally admit though that she was chosen and not democratically nominated. But he wasn’t officially the nominee. Thats why I lost all that money. Sure I was confident. But I lost. Just as you’re losing this argument. Trump agreed to debate the nominee. No names were mentioned. Now he’s backing out. Why can’t you just admit it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 4, 2024 There won't be unscripted debates or press conferences for Kamala. Democrats simply can't take the chance. Simply listen to this focking idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 7 minutes ago, Reality said: There won't be unscripted debates or press conferences for Kamala. Democrats simply can't take the chance. Simply listen to this focking idiot. I know this is the latest line. But I guarantee you that in the next few months there will be plenty of interviews. And there will be a debate if Trump shows up. What will your next lame attack be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,688 Posted August 4, 2024 14 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Trump: Fox or not at all. Harris: I’ll be at ABC, will you keep your word? I know some of you think Trump is winning this battle; I can tell you he isn’t. The problem is he already agreed to ABC. He can say “that was with Biden” all he wants but it won’t fly with most people. He just looks afraid at this point. Kamala can just wait. It’s a win win for her whatever Trump does. Sorry but you've shown to have no objective observation skills; your perception is from your Leftie echo chamber. Most reasonable people thought that Trump made a mistake coddling to Biden's childish debate demands. Now he has an opportunity to return them to the formats they had used for decades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 4, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I know this is the latest line. But I guarantee you that in the next few months there will be plenty of interviews. And there will be a debate if Trump shows up. What will your next lame attack be? Only if they're scripted. Listening to this idiot talk is a lame attack? Listening to her own words? Do you understand how stupid that makes you sound? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted August 4, 2024 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But he wasn’t officially the nominee. Thats why I lost all that money. Sure I was confident. But I lost. Just as you’re losing this argument. Trump agreed to debate the nominee. No names were mentioned. Now he’s backing out. Why can’t you just admit it? You can play your dumb semantics game to justify your perverted views all you want. Net/net is the installed puppet you dubbed the next “Obama” can’t handle the old man would be dictator in a debate because of Fox News and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 4, 2024 19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But he wasn’t officially the nominee. Thats why I lost all that money. Sure I was confident. But I lost. Just as you’re losing this argument. Trump agreed to debate the nominee. No names were mentioned. Now he’s backing out. Why can’t you just admit it? This is such a dumb response. There's been no agreement for a Trump\Harris debate to this point, they are now negotiating. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 4, 2024 Kelly, Walz and Shapiro doing final interviews today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted August 4, 2024 9 minutes ago, Reality said: Only if they're scripted. Listening to this idiot talk is a lame attack? Listening to her own words? Do you understand how stupid that makes you sound? If she’s so focking stupid how come alpha Father Trump is too pvssy to debate her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,567 Posted August 4, 2024 15 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Sorry but you've shown to have no objective observation skills; your perception is from your Leftie echo chamber. Most reasonable people thought that Trump made a mistake coddling to Biden's childish debate demands. Now he has an opportunity to return them to the formats they had used for decades. Here’s the problem Jerry: right now what you call “the leftie echo chamber” is encompassing most of the nation. And what you refer to as “most reasonable people” is in the minority. What you don’t seem to have picked up on yet is that the dynamics of this election have completely changed. Another point: you guys keep posting old statements by Kamala where she admittedly struggles at times to make her point. Since then she’s gotten about 1,000 times better in her delivery. Thats why none of this stuff is going to work. She’s become an extremely impressive speaker. She’s risen to the moment at hand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: If she’s so focking stupid how come alpha Father Trump is afraid to debate her? Spoiler alert, they'll figure it out after some negotiating. These responses are really stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,255 Posted August 4, 2024 35 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But he wasn’t officially the nominee. Thats why I lost all that money. Sure I was confident. But I lost. Just as you’re losing this argument. Trump agreed to debate the nominee. No names were mentioned. Now he’s backing out. Why can’t you just admit it? Seems to me when I made an argument structured much as this one is structured you excoriated me publicly in several posts, and in extremely unkind terms for having done so. Now, when it serves your purpose you make the same kind of argument. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,248 Posted August 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Reality said: Spoiler alert, they'll figure it out after some negotiating. They will. Don is just making a scene cause he’s an attention hore. In addition to being a puzzay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,255 Posted August 4, 2024 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Here’s the problem Jerry: right now what you call “the leftie echo chamber” is encompassing most of the nation. And what you refer to as “most reasonable people” is in the minority. What you don’t seem to have picked up on yet is that the dynamics of this election have completely changed. Another point: you guys keep posting old statements by Kamala where she admittedly struggles at times to make her point. Since then she’s gotten about 1,000 times better in her delivery. Thats why none of this stuff is going to work. She’s become an extremely impressive speaker. She’s risen to the moment at hand. So you are saying she is unburdened by what has been evenj when what has been has been her trying to be relevant on the national stage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1erce 88 Posted August 4, 2024 Economy is so bad right now that even Joe Biden’s job is being outsourced to an Indian 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,255 Posted August 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, MDC said: They will. Don is just making a scene cause he’s an attention hore. In addition to being a puzzay. Can a person grab him in a non-inappropriate manner? (Sorry for the double negative but it really works in this context) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites