Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes. But I’m not a conspiracist and I trust the integrity of ABC. 

OK 

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4 hours ago, MDC said:

Then he can explain how that weirdo Vance was the most qualified candidate based on 18 months in office and writing a hillbilly book.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEV0GPN

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

Trump attacked Brian Kemp last night, the extremely popular Republican governor of Georgia. This seems unwise. 
 

I don’t agree with Kemp on a host of issues but I can’t help liking him. Guy has got loads of integrity. Plus there is no doubt he has done a terrific job as governor by doing things the old fashioned Republican way: cutting excessive spending and red tape, lowering taxes to encourage investment, encouraging overseas investment and trade. Thats the conservatism of Ronald Reagan that works, especially at a state level. It’s a good antithesis to the liberalism of Kamala Harris. It’s a conservatism that the national GOP should return to once Trump, hopefully, is done after this election cycle. I could never vote for Kemp because he is too socially conservative, too anti-immigrant for me. But I wouldn’t be disatisfied with him as my President. There is a lot I like.

As far as Trump’s campaign is concerned I don’t think it helps him to attack Kemp. 

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then why not just request ABC give a live audience? I think they would have quickly agreed. Why demand  different network and a different date? And why insist that it’s this or nothing? If you know anything about negotiations you know that when you demand “it’s this or nothing” you’re almost guaranteeing that the other side will refuse. Which I suspect is Trump’s motive. He wants to get out of this. 

No. ABC has proven to Trump  that they're completely biased against him. So this is his F. You to ABC.

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6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Tim is just parroting what he's been told to parrot.  Earlier this week he called her recent speeches an amalgamation of the best of Reagan, Obama, and JFK.  And he thinks I'm the one out of touch.  You can't make this stuff up.

Seems Tim left out Churchill and Lincoln.

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Seems Tim left out Churchill and Lincoln.

I didn’t hear Lincoln speak. On paper his speeches are great. But live? Who knows? Churchill has the greatest speeches of all time but the recordings are dated and he’s got a lisp so it doesn’t sound so impressive. 
 

Of the three I mentioned, I’m certainly not the only one mentioning JFK and Obama. All kinds of folks are making that comparison. So far as I know I’m the only one who has made the Reagan comparison but that’s probably because people are mentally unwilling to make analogies to somebody of the other party- their minds simply don’t go there. For whatever reason mine does. 

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I appreciate this response, thanks.  Why do you think she took "inadvisable stances in the past"?  Your implication is that she would not have otherwise taken those stances.  Yet, she had the most progressive record in the Senate.

I'm not trying to be a d1ck, I'm honestly asking why you think those weren't her personal positions.   

Huh?

You’re making assumptions.

I don’t think she was made to do it. But in the 2020 primary she felt compelled to compete with Bernie and Warren on liberal issues so she went out on a few limbs that she probably shouldn’t have.

I’m aware she’s a California liberal but she surely knows she can’t govern as one. Gotta recognize that much of the country is not in that camp.

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I didn’t hear Lincoln speak. On paper his speeches are great. But live? Who knows? Churchill has the greatest speeches of all time but the recordings are dated and he’s got a lisp so it doesn’t sound so impressive. 
 

Of the three I mentioned, I’m certainly not the only one mentioning JFK and Obama. All kinds of folks are making that comparison. So far as I know I’m the only one who has made the Reagan comparison but that’s probably because people are mentally unwilling to make analogies to somebody of the other party- their minds simply don’t go there. For whatever reason mine does. 

I was raised Catholic.  The Catholics have a procedure called beatification.  It involvers trying to elevate the status of a perrson so they may be canonized a saint someday.  Truth and myth are supposed to be seperated in the process and positive truth put forward, but in the end a new myth is forged.  Why i mention this in a discussion of Ms. harris who is in her 19th "relaunch" in the lasst four years I leave to you.

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

I was raised Catholic.  The Catholics have a procedure called beatification.  It involvers trying to elevate the status of a perrson so they may be canonized a saint someday.  Truth and myth are supposed to be seperated in the process and positive truth put forward, but in the end a new myth is forged.  Why i mention this in a discussion of Ms. harris who is in her 19th "relaunch" in the lasst four years I leave to you.

Lol! Well you misunderstand me. Though I like Kamala fine and strongly prefer her to Trump, she has plenty of faults and I honestly don’t know how good a President she will be. Hopefully we will find out. But she may disappoint me and be truly awful. My praise in the posts you’re referring to is limited to her speechmaking which I think has become wonderful in recent weeks. I’m very excited by that, I admit it. But speechmaking does not a good leader make necessarily. 

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8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Huh?

You’re making assumptions.

I don’t think she was made to do it. But in the 2020 primary she felt compelled to compete with Bernie and Warren on liberal issues so she went out on a few limbs that she probably shouldn’t have.

I’m aware she’s a California liberal but she surely knows she can’t govern as one. Gotta recognize that much of the country is not in that camp.

 

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I agree with this, actually. We don’t know where she stands on some things where she’s taken some, frankly, inadvisable stances in the past. They’re going to have to get her ready for that because it’s definitely coming up in any debate(s) if not sooner. May help to clarify some of this at the convention as well, at least implicitly, or through interviews. She will have to get out there eventually 

Umm, this is your post I replied to, where you said she took "inadvisable stances in the past."  

I'll repeat that she had the most progressive/Leftist voting record in her time in the Senate.  The MSM is trying to memory-hole that, and you seem all too eager to push that disinformation.

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30 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Umm, this is your post I replied to, where you said she took "inadvisable stances in the past."  

I'll repeat that she had the most progressive/Leftist voting record in her time in the Senate.  The MSM is trying to memory-hole that, and you seem all too eager to push that disinformation.

Jer, you’re a weirdo. I’m saying she said some sh1t in 2019 and 2020 that she shouldn’t have. It’s a simple factual statement that you even seem to agree with, so I don’t understand what your fockin angle is here

[Mark Davis 372]

Turmoil in overseas markets tonight.  We will see what the follow through is tomorrow here in the U.S.  Right now Harris benefits from status quo.  Who knows how bad it will be and if it has follow through or dissipates.  But sustained market turmoil you'd imagine would benefit Trump.

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7 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Turmoil in overseas markets tonight.  We will see what the follow through is tomorrow here in the U.S.  Right now Harris benefits from status quo.  Who knows how bad it will be and if it has follow through or dissipates.  But sustained market turmoil you'd imagine would benefit Trump.

Timing couldn't be worse for the dems.  That's for sure.  If this continues, I wouldn't be surprised if they float another handout of some sort.  Have to buy votes.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,161]

On 8/3/2024 at 1:01 PM, The Real timschochet said:

And it’s having a major effect down ballot. Suddenly Brown is ahead in Ohio. Lake is getting her butt kicked in Arizona. I think the House is going to flip and the Senate will stay blue. 
 

This is amazing. 

Brown will not campaign with Kamala, will not attend DNC. Lol.  

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29 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Brown will not campaign with Kamala, will not attend DNC. Lol.  

Sen. Sherrod Brown doesn't plan to campaign with Vice President Kamala Harris. He plans to skip the Democratic National Convention. And the Democratic senator isn't going to defend Harris' record — or offer praise to President Joe Biden or to Harris over their handling of the U.S.-Mexico border.

[thegeneral 3,074]

Kamala’s honeymoon may be over. Things could not have gone better up to this point.

But today…Markets down, recession fears, Iran / Israel. Welcome to the campaign new VP candidate Shapiro (or whoever)!

The race is close to 50/50, Trump still a favorite really. Get to see what moves she has now.

[Reality 3,121]

Fakest candidate in history? 

 

[seafoam1 2,876]

27 minutes ago, Reality said:

Fakest candidate in history? 

 

Child actors are her thing. 

[squistion 2,074]

https://x.com/GregTSargent/status/1820407791401554112

SCOOP --> Kamala Harris leads Trump by 55-37 among Latino voters in the seven key swing states, according to the first large-sample poll of Latinos taken since she entered the race.

The poll by @SomosVotantes and @BSPresearch also shows more room to grow:

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

Hopefully the sell off is just a correction and the stock market rebounds later in the week. If it doesn’t of course it could affect the election. Which is crazy of course because Trump would only make things far worse with his trade policies. But there’s no denying this could be bad for Kamala. 

[seafoam1 2,876]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/GregTSargent/status/1820407791401554112

SCOOP --> Kamala Harris leads Trump by 55-37 among Latino voters in the seven key swing states, according to the first large-sample poll of Latinos taken since she entered the race.

The poll by @SomosVotantes and @BSPresearch also shows more room to grow:

somosvotantes. 

[peenie 1,906]

I don't like Kamala at all. I don't like the way she panders, excuse me, I don't like the way the Democratic party panders to black people, it's disgusting. 
I guess we get Megan Thee Stallion and the Republicans get Amber Rose. 

I guess I'm the one missing it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,161]

I’ve said it before, if a politician was speaking to me and launched  into an Irish brogue I would throw something at them. I don’t know why black people accept this from politicians. They don’t  from others.  

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24 minutes ago, peenie said:

I don't like Kamala at all. I don't like the way she panders, excuse me, I don't like the way the Democratic party panders to black people, it's disgusting. 
I guess we get Megan Thee Stallion and the Republicans get Amber Rose. 

I guess I'm the one missing it. 

Peenie, while I absolutely respect your opinion as a true black person, only Timmy and Squish are allowed to tell us how black people feel. Please do not muddle things with your opinions.  If we want to know how the black population feels, they will tell us.

Thanks and have a good day.

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Peenie, while I absolutely respect your opinion as a true black person, only Timmy and Squish are allowed to tell us how black people feel. Please do not muddle things with your opinions.  If we want to know how the black population feels, they will tell us.

Thanks and have a good day.

I just report the facts. The vast vast majority of black people like Kamala and will be voting for her. She has energized them like no politician since Obama. Black people aren’t monolithic and there will be plenty like @peenie- everybody gets to have their point of view. But there’s no doubt they’re a shrinking minority right now. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I just report the facts. The vast vast majority of black people like Kamala and will be voting for her. She has energized them like no politician since Obama. Black people aren’t monolithic and there will be plenty like @peenie- everybody gets to have their point of view. But there’s no doubt they’re a shrinking minority right now. 

Like I said peenie.   ONLY Timmy and Squish are allowed to tell us how blacks feel.    

[Hardcore troubadour 15,161]

18 month old infant in California dead from fentanyl exposure. That’s on Harris. 

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Like I said peenie.   ONLY Timmy and Squish are allowed to tell us how blacks feel.    

It is true that if you simply accepted me as an authority on all of these matters your life would be much easier. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I just report the facts. The vast vast majority of black people like Kamala and will be voting for her. She has energized them like no politician since Obama. Black people aren’t monolithic and there will be plenty like @peenie- everybody gets to have their point of view. But there’s no doubt they’re a shrinking minority right now. 

Do you have a poll which shows the vast, vast majority of black people like her and/or will be voting for her?

[Fireballer 2,641]

So what’s all this “momentum” based on?  Identity politics?

 

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Do you have a poll which shows the vast, vast majority of black people like her and/or will be voting for her?

Sure, several. 

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/black-voter-support-appears-to-rebound-with-historic-nomination-of-kamala-harris/61784252

Some are listed in the article above (scroll down.) There are plenty of others. It looks like, at least in terms of black voting, a return to the Obama coalition. It remains to be seen if she can match the other components of that coalition (Latinos, suburban women, etc.) but it’s looking good at the moment. 
 

I avoid polls when I respond to @supermike80 because he doesn’t believe in them. To his credit he’s stayed consistent in that position for many years now. 

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https://x.com/MorningConsult/status/1820466773688299936

51% of voters say former President Donald Trump is “too old."

 

By contrast, only 12% say the same of Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://bit.ly/4ftQSi7

 

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure, several. 

https://www.wvtm13.com/article/black-voter-support-appears-to-rebound-with-historic-nomination-of-kamala-harris/61784252

Some are listed in the article above (scroll down.) There are plenty of others. It looks like, at least in terms of black voting, a return to the Obama coalition. It remains to be seen if she can match the other components of that coalition (Latinos, suburban women, etc.) but it’s looking good at the moment. 
 

I avoid polls when I respond to @supermike80 because he doesn’t believe in them. To his credit he’s stayed consistent in that position for many years now. 

Thanks.  Looks like Biden had lost a lot of the traditional black Democrat vote, and Kamala has gotten it back.  For now, anyway. 

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11 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/MorningConsult/status/1820466773688299936

51% of voters say former President Donald Trump is “too old."

 

By contrast, only 12% say the same of Vice President Kamala Harris.

https://bit.ly/4ftQSi7

 

Wow...Now THERES a poll!! So telling!! So detailed!!! So complete!!  WEEEEEEEEE

[The Real timschochet 6,544]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks.  Looks like Biden had lost a lot of the traditional black Democrat vote, and Kamala has gotten it back.  For now, anyway. 

Right. 
Long term I don’t believe Democrats can keep this vote as monolithic as it’s been. Black people in this country have become increasingly conservative, particularly on economic issues. They are mostly Democrats  because of tradition and because Republicans don’t help themselves with certain policies and candidates (like Trump.) But nothing is forever. Typically the percentage of blacks who vote for Republicans is 10-15%. I bet a guy like Brian Kemp could get a whole lot more than that. 

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23 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So what’s all this “momentum” based on?  Identity politics?

 

Polls kept showing that voters were unhappy with Biden/Trump as a choice. Kamala is new so she gets a bump. Trump has also had a really bad 2 weeks since Joe stepped down. JD Vance is a flop, his black journalists meeting was embarrassing, now he’s ducking the debate and lashing out at the Republican Governor of GA. 

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1 hour ago, peenie said:

I don't like Kamala at all. I don't like the way she panders, excuse me, I don't like the way the Democratic party panders to black people, it's disgusting. 
I guess we get Megan Thee Stallion and the Republicans get Amber Rose. 

I guess I'm the one missing it. 

pickmeenie

[squistion 2,074]

https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/1819056635353907463

The former president’s decision to identify as orange came about only after great personal struggle and reflection and we should treat it with respect.

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

pickmeenie

that's f'n racist. 

So, a black woman doesn't do or vote as she's told by a white liberal and suddenly she's a "pick me girl"?  Thanks for confirming that racism never left you or your party. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,161]

Libtards think Trump getting shot is fake and Kamalas Black-cent is real.