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1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

See this is what I'm talking about, willful ignorance.

 

youre an idiot, cnn calling it lies cause they dont agree, does not make them lies

 

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I think this post-birth abortion topic is being overplayed.  You had one moron in Northrup saying " an infant who is severely deformed or unable to survive after birth could be left to die "  and then this was run with as if it were part of the abortion stance, which I do not believe it is.

In fact, Abortions later in pregnancy are exceedingly rare. In 2021, less than 1% of abortions in the United States were performed at or after 21 weeks

So IMHO the entire premise of even later term abortions is being overblown.....

@Sean Mooney  Hey look....I used sources again.....

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7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think this post-birth abortion topic is being overplayed.  You had one moron in Northrup saying " an infant who is severely deformed or unable to survive after birth could be left to die "  and then this was run with as if it were part of the abortion stance, which I do not believe it is.

In fact, Abortions later in pregnancy are exceedingly rare. In 2021, less than 1% of abortions in the United States were performed at or after 21 weeks

So IMHO the entire premise of even later term abortions is being overblown.....

@Sean Mooney  Hey look....I used sources again.....

Read Voltaire's link.  They asked the chick in the legislature if her bill would allow post birth abortion and she said yes.  She backtracked later but of course she would.  Ask yourself, why won't they codify the illegality of.post birth abortion?

And, for the record, I agree with you.  The issue is being overblown.  That doesn't make Trump wrong though.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Read Voltaire's link.  They asked the chick in the legislature if her bill would allow post birth abortion and she said yes.  She backtracked later but of course she would.  Ask yourself, why won't they codify the illegality of.post birth abortion?

Ask yourself moron, what doctor is delivering a kid and then killing it?

You people who just slurp up fake, alt right news without giving it an ounce of critical thought, what little you're capable of, are the worst thing to ever happen to this country. 

Idiot

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Just now, BeachGuy23 said:

Ask yourself moron, what doctor is delivering a kid and then killing it?

Idiot

Dr. Ralph Northum

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Read Voltaire's link.  They asked the chick in the legislature if her bill would allow post birth abortion and she said yes.  She backtracked later but of course she would.  Ask yourself, why won't they codify the illegality of.post birth abortion?

And, for the record, I agree with you.  The issue is being overblown.  That doesn't make Trump wrong though.

I presume that there are those out there who would support the notion of post-birth abortion.....no doubt, and gratefully there are more "good" people that ghouls out there.

 

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Dr. Ralph Northum

A pediatric neurologist will kill a baby after delivering it?

cot damn you're an embarrassment to cops.  And that's REALLY saying something.

Just dumb as the day is long you are...SMH

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31 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

youre an idiot, cnn calling it lies cause they dont agree, does not make them lies

 

You wanna go lie by lie and fact check using other sources?

Again, you dismiss facts because you don't like the source.  Willful ignorance.

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3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You wanna go lie by lie and fact check using other sources?

Again, you dismiss facts because you don't like the source.  Willful ignorance.

Sure let’s go. You start with good people on both sides 

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Sure let’s go. You start with good people on both sides 

That wasn't a Trump lie.  We already started on killing babies after birth.  Do you agree that this was a lie?

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

That wasn't a Trump lie.  We already started on killing babies after birth.  Do you agree that this was a lie?

Northum thinks its ok to allow a baby to die after birth, thats not a lie, but has nothing to do with abortion

 

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Northum thinks its ok to allow a baby to die after birth, thats not a lie, but has nothing to do with abortion

 

OK so we agree that Trump lied when he said that democrats want to kill babies after birth?

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5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OK so we agree that Trump lied when he said that democrats want to kill babies after birth?

they do want laws in place that allow that.  saying they want to kill them is rhetoric

this would be a topic I have zero interest in, I am pro abortion til 15 weeks, when a child is born, regardless of situation, I believe it is the doctors duty to make sure they do everything to save a life, regardless of disability

done with this one, you can keep going back and forth with other people on this

I will give you less on this one, than Joe saying he wants to put ya all back in chains

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

they do want laws in place that allow that.  saying they want to kill them is rhetoric

this would be a topic I have zero interest in, I am pro abortion til 15 weeks, when a child is born, regardless of situation, I believe it is the doctors duty to make sure they do everything to save a life, regardless of disability

done with this one, you can keep going back and forth with other people on this

 

 

Hey man you wanted to fact check.  You said democrats want laws in place to kill the baby after birth.  Can you name one law or one bill that allows this?

Or you can just take the L and be done here.  You want to keep going?

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Hey man you wanted to fact check.  You said democrats want laws in place to kill the baby after birth.  Can you name one law or one bill that allows this?

Or you can just take the L and be done here.  You want to keep going?

we can do this over and over, it was proposed in the past, and colorado has abortion allowed up to birth, I will never agree with that, the dems take everything further and further continually, so putting something permanent is what I favor

you don't believe in slippery slopes, so I am not surprised

 

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7 minutes ago, edjr said:

 

I’m sure that was funny without that anonymous weirdo offering his stupid commentary 

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

I’m sure that was funny without that anonymous weirdo offering his stupid commentary 

Agreed. John Stewart should have not spoken

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

we can do this over and over, it was proposed in the past, and colorado has abortion allowed up to birth, I will never agree with that, the dems take everything further and further continually, so putting something permanent is what I favor

you don't believe in slippery slopes, so I am not surprised

 

Where was it proposed?  I would like to see the language of the bill.  I personally don't agree with killing the baby after birth, and I would assume 99.9% of Americans agree.  Trump said democrats support this but I've never heard any support of infanticide.  Can you share?  Or just agree it was a lie?

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3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

What were his biggest lies? I don't rightly recall. Aparently theres something Nancy Pelosi said about the National Guard on 1/6 that implicates her and i never heard before.

Biden said the border guards endorssed him (which the border guard union clarified in no uncertain terms mid-debate was false) and that nobody died on his watch. That's not true, too bad the Afghanistan pullout went so poorly,  but the guy would deserves some credit that no US troops are fighting a war in a global sh*thole, except the Navy vs the Houthis. 

The troops death one was the big one. The other one where he overshot his mark was the prices of insulin. Then he made some comments quoting Trump incorrectly. 

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3 hours ago, Gladiators said:

Why hasn't the media done anything to call out some of Biden's bigger lies?

They did. 

Thanks for playing. 

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If you guys think trump is such a huge liar (he is), recognize that you all are too, because you all do the exact same things.  You all take statements out of context and then exaggerate them so you can be right just like orange man bad.  

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9 minutes ago, nobody said:

If you guys think trump is such a huge liar (he is), recognize that you all are too, because you all do the exact same things.  You all take statements out of context and then exaggerate them so you can be right just like orange man bad.  

No but see.....Trump is.....worse   :rolleyes:

Imagine thinking in that way.......

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12 minutes ago, nobody said:

If you guys think trump is such a huge liar (he is), recognize that you all are too, because you all do the exact same things.  You all take statements out of context and then exaggerate them so you can be right just like orange man bad.  

I mean- gutterboy isn't a former President running to be President again.

Are we really that far gone that wanting, and calling for, honesty from a Presidential candidate is unwarranted.  Or that we have to try and compare the President as a liar to a person lying on a fantasy football message board. 

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22 minutes ago, nobody said:

If you guys think trump is such a huge liar (he is), recognize that you all are too, because you all do the exact same things.  You all take statements out of context and then exaggerate them so you can be right just like orange man bad.  

I’m not sure Trump is a liar. I think he’s a delusional narcissist who believes his own bull.

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9 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not sure Trump is a liar. I think he’s a delusional narcissist who believes his own bull.

And you're a tranny. :dunno:

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

And you're a tranny. :dunno:

Good one Peefoam. 

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1 hour ago, nobody said:

If you guys think trump is such a huge liar (he is), recognize that you all are too, because you all do the exact same things.  You all take statements out of context and then exaggerate them so you can be right just like orange man bad.  

 

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I mean- gutterboy isn't a former President running to be President again.

Are we really that far gone that wanting, and calling for, honesty from a Presidential candidate is unwarranted.  Or that we have to try and compare the President as a liar to a person lying on a fantasy football message board. 

Yep — dumb point @nobody

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

I’m not sure Trump is a liar. I think he’s a delusional narcissist who believes his own bull.

I asked for Trump‘s top six lies a dozen times on this board and no one has replied.

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4 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I asked for Trump‘s top six lies a dozen times on this board and no one has replied.

Well that’s just false, buddy. I talked about CNN’s fact checking of Trump on the night of the debate and it’s been actually posted here a few times since. It’s quite a doozy.

However, it doesn’t matter, since the other guy revealed himself to be senile.

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16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I asked for Trump‘s top six lies a dozen times on this board and no one has replied.

Just last week Trump said “everyone” wanted Roe v Wade overturned and claimed that he didn’t bang that hooker. 

Lies? :dunno: 

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7 minutes ago, MDC said:

Just last week Trump said “everyone” wanted Roe v Wade overturned and claimed that he didn’t bang that hooker. 

Lies? :dunno: 

But Biden said that if you got the Covid vaccine, you wouldn’t get Covid and you couldn’t pass Covid. Not all lies are equal, and if you consider exaggerations lies, everyone can stop talking.
Biden said that when he took office inflation was 9.1% but in reality it was 1.4%. that is a lie.

and said that no American military personnel lost their lives under his watch. That is not only a lie it is disgusting.

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18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Well that’s just false, buddy. I talked about CNN’s fact checking of Trump on the night of the debate and it’s been actually posted here a few times since. It’s quite a doozy.

However, it doesn’t matter, since the other guy revealed himself to be senile.

What lies were they supposed to fact check? Why didn’t they fact check Biden‘s lies?

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

But Biden said that if you got the Covid vaccine, you wouldn’t get Covid and you couldn’t pass Covid. Not all lies are equal, and if you consider exaggerations lies, everyone can stop talking.
Biden said that when he took office inflation was 9.1% but in reality it was 1.4%. that is a lie.

I never said Biden doesn’t lie. He does. I said it’s hard to tell when Trump is lying vs. when he’s just living in a fantasyland, because he’s nuts.

Try to keep up. 👍🏻 

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

The troops death one was the big one. The other one where he overshot his mark was the prices of insulin. Then he made some comments quoting Trump incorrectly. 

Medicare.....LOL!

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

I never said Biden doesn’t lie. He does. I said it’s hard to tell when Trump is lying vs. when he’s just living in a fantasyland, because he’s nuts.

Try to keep up. 👍🏻 

What are these lies?

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3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What lies were they supposed to fact check? Why didn’t they fact check Biden‘s lies?

I wonder how the cannibals felt his family tasted.

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Just last week Trump said “everyone” wanted Roe v Wade overturned and claimed that he didn’t bang that hooker. 

Lies? :dunno: 

Yeah, the ole "everyone" gotcha.  You got him this time MDC.

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1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

What are these lies?

I just gave you 2. :wacko: 

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