The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 25, 2024 Biden can win the debate if he appears normal and lucid. And if he keeps the focus on Trump’s crazy ideas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 25, 2024 Conservatives will have only themselves to blame when Biden wins this debate. They’ve been lying for months now about his supposed diminished capacities, claiming he can’t remember what he had for breakfast, poops his pants, etc. Now they’ll have to make up reasons why he appeared alert and lucid: drugs, etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 25, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Conservatives will have only themselves to blame when Biden wins this debate. They’ve been lying for months now about his supposed diminished capacities, claiming he can’t remember what he had for breakfast, poops his pants, etc. Now they’ll have to make up reasons why he appeared alert and lucid: drugs, etc. They know they lied about him drooling and sh1tting his pants, so they started the drug use lies before we ever got to the debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 25, 2024 41 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Conservatives shouldn’t ever bring up social security or debt issues until they come up with plans for fixing them. We already know that if Trump gets in he’s going to massively increase the debt, as he did last time even before Covid, and do nothing to address Social Security. What have democrats done about it since Reagan addressed it with a split government? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,273 Posted June 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What have democrats done about it since Reagan addressed it with a split government? Whatabout alert! They've done the same as Republicans. Squat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, Fnord said: Whatabout alert! They've done the same as Republicans. Squat. Agree. So Tim can stop applying blame to one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,029 Posted June 25, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Biden can win the debate if he appears normal and lucid. And if he keeps the focus on Trump’s crazy ideas. Let's see if the magic juice is put right. They have enough time to experiment with the elixor to male it just right. They screwed the pooch with the angry, vein popping shot they gave him for the SOTU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 25, 2024 Oopsie “according to a new analysis by the fiscal watchdog group Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, which showed that President Trump approved $8.4 trillion in new 10-year borrowing during his four years in office, compared to $4.3 trillion for President Joe Biden” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 25, 2024 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Agree. So Tim can stop applying blame to one of them. Oh I agree that both parties are nearly equally guilty. I say nearly because from time to time Democrats raise taxes and that reduces the annual deficit a little bit (not much but a little.) Republicans do nothing at all. Neither side cuts spending, ever. But I call out Republicans more because (1) they are the ones who always b!tch about it, especially when a Democrat is President, despite doing nothing and (2) because Republicans, when in power, ALWAYS increase the debt and deficit way more than Democrats do. It’s not even close. They are completely irresponsible when it comes to this, Trump most of all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 25, 2024 22 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Let's see if the magic juice is put right. They have enough time to experiment with the elixor to male it just right. They screwed the pooch with the angry, vein popping shot they gave him for the SOTU. The accusation is that Biden has dementia. Like many people here I have had family members who suffered from this. If you have it, there is no drug, no remedy that can make you temporarily more alert. I wish there was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,546 Posted June 25, 2024 On 6/15/2024 at 12:04 PM, Engorgeous George said: The debates have never held much interest for me as debates as the participants are never held to account for not addressing the questions asked. Typically the participants start off with some variation of "what I hear you asking is..." They then rephrase the question beyond recognition and give a canned response, a nonresponse if you will. /thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,029 Posted June 25, 2024 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The accusation is that Biden has dementia. Like many people here I have had family members who suffered from this. If you have it, there is no drug, no remedy that can make you temporarily more alert. I wish there was. It's not a light switch. You don't just have it full blown or don't at all all the time. It happens in stages. The white house physician for obama and Trump came out and stated that creepy joe is impaired mentally and his handlers are doing dangerous things by shooting him up for these events. He doesn't know exactly what they are giving him but he knows 100% they are doing it. And he shared multiple drugs they are probably using in some sort of combination. Why do you deny that dude often time wanders aimlessly and is obviously lost in his head? It's stupid that you deny it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 25, 2024 Just now, seafoam1 said: It's not a light switch. You don't just have it full blown or don't. The white house physician for obama and Trump came out and stated that creepy joe is impaired mentally and his handlers are doing dangerous things by shooting him up for these events. He doesn't know exactly what they are giving him but he knows 100% they are doing it. And he shared multiple drugs they are probably using in some sort of combination. Why do you deny that dude often time wanders aimlessly and is obviously lost in his head? It's stupid that you deny it. Are you talking about Ronny Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,546 Posted June 25, 2024 On 6/16/2024 at 11:52 AM, The Real timschochet said: Trump tries to turn all politics into a clown show. Which is why he's perfect for the job... it's because politics, today, is a clown show. All of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 925 Posted June 26, 2024 8 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: We already know that if Trump gets in he’s going to massively increase the debt, as he did last time even before Covid, and do nothing to address Social Security. And what will Biden do regarding debt if he wins a 2nd term ? As for SS, at least Trump doesn't already have a record of focking over recipients who had the gall to treat SS as what it was intended to be. A supplement to other retirement savings/income. So people that planned accordingly, & saved, have to pay taxes on up to 85% of it, while those who didn't, pay nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 26, 2024 1 hour ago, easilyscan said: And what will Biden do regarding debt if he wins a 2nd term ? As for SS, at least Trump doesn't already have a record of focking over recipients who had the gall to treat SS as what it was intended to be. A supplement to other retirement savings/income. So people that planned accordingly, & saved, have to pay taxes on up to 85% of it, while those who didn't, pay nothing. Biden will spend a little. Not as much as Trump will. If Biden has control of Congress he will raise taxes. But I doubt the Dems will win in the Senate. If you’re truly concerned about these issues, neither candidate is a good choice but Biden is much better than Trump. And that’s true with regard to all economic issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 925 Posted June 26, 2024 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Biden will spend a little. Not as much as Trump will. If Biden has control of Congress he will raise taxes. But I doubt the Dems will win in the Senate. If you’re truly concerned about these issues, neither candidate is a good choice but Biden is much better than Trump. And that’s true with regard to all economic issues. How can you say Biden would be a better choice in regards to all economic issues ? I'll be one of those that has to pay taxes on up to 85% of my Social Security. Not that it would ever happen, but if I could place a bet on which of those 2 would be more likely to change that, I'd be all in on Trump. I have 750 K in unrealized LT capital gains, & would like to begin realizing those and invest in something safer. Which one of those 2 would be more likely to change that in my favor ? Knowing this, would you still be willing to say Biden is much better than Trump ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 26, 2024 35 minutes ago, easilyscan said: How can you say Biden would be a better choice in regards to all economic issues ? I'll be one of those that has to pay taxes on up to 85% of my Social Security. Not that it would ever happen, but if I could place a bet on which of those 2 would be more likely to change that, I'd be all in on Trump. I have 750 K in unrealized LT capital gains, & would like to begin realizing those and invest in something safer. Which one of those 2 would be more likely to change that in my favor ? Knowing this, would you still be willing to say Biden is much better than Trump ? Yes. Because none of the issues you mentioned is as important as Trump’s tariff plan. It will be a catastrophe to our economy. It will make your savings worthless. Read this: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 925 Posted June 26, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Yes. Because none of the issues you mentioned is as important as Trump’s tariff plan. It will be a catastrophe to our economy. It will make your savings worthless. Read this: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/16-nobel-prize-winning-economists-say-trump-policies-will-fuel-inflation-2024-06-25/ When you say it will make my savings worthless, are you literally referring to savings ? Maybe your definition of savings is different than mine ? I consider savings to be money kept liquid in case of an emergency, or if you're planning a major purchase. Those were worthless as recently as late 2021, when interest rates bottomed. Or are you referring to Investments, such as individual stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, REIT's etc ? If you're referring to investments, tell me why those would be worthless due to Trump's tariff plan. I read the article: I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the following quote "Many Americans are concerned about inflation, which has come down remarkably fast" Right then I knew Reuters must be highly biased because that's simply BS. FYI: My plate is way too full starting tomorrow (Wednesday) through Friday. If you respond, don't be surprised if I don't reply until Saturday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 26, 2024 Who are these morons? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 26, 2024 This dude is on the House Oversight Committee WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 26, 2024 I for one am pretty excited that the maga movement has found a cure for dementia. Mountain dew 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 26, 2024 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: This dude is on the House Oversight Committee WTF So is AOC. Nice job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So is AOC. Nice job. Whatabout AOC 🥲 Biden is on Mountain Dew is solid gold. He should take a sip of this halfway through the debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted June 26, 2024 14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I for one am pretty excited that the maga movement has found a cure for dementia. Mountain dew Treatment, not a cure. I drink several a day on a hot summer day yet I still suffer from the dementia. Not to the extent of Biden, but I am effected. Still the best minds in the democratic party have been working on this the past week. I look forward to them publishing their results and making the "Biden cocktail", whatever that is, available to us under medicare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 26, 2024 Everyone knows Biden is a Monster guy. These focking dopes can’t get anything right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted June 26, 2024 12 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Everyone knows Biden is a Monster guy. These focking dopes can’t get anything right! Hunter is bringing the booger sugar. He will be higher than AOC was at that rally last weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted June 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Hunter is bringing the booger sugar. He will be higher than AOC was at that rally last weekend. No way man. It’s all Mountain Dew these days. Biden probably been playing his XBox up at Camp David Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted June 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: No way man. It’s all Mountain Dew these days. Biden probably been playing his XBox up at Camp David His game of choice is Mario Kart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted June 26, 2024 Why won’t Biden submit to a drug test as Trump requested? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,429 Posted June 26, 2024 29 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: His game of choice is Mario Kart. That’s a really good game tbf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted June 26, 2024 30 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Why won’t Biden submit to a drug test as Trump requested? Why should he? I mean, if I were Biden I would be like "fock off" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted June 26, 2024 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: Why should he? I mean, if I were Biden I would be like "fock off" Then the handwriting is on the wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 26, 2024 9 hours ago, easilyscan said: When you say it will make my savings worthless, are you literally referring to savings ? Maybe your definition of savings is different than mine ? I consider savings to be money kept liquid in case of an emergency, or if you're planning a major purchase. Those were worthless as recently as late 2021, when interest rates bottomed. Or are you referring to Investments, such as individual stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, REIT's etc ? If you're referring to investments, tell me why those would be worthless due to Trump's tariff plan. I read the article: I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the following quote "Many Americans are concerned about inflation, which has come down remarkably fast" Right then I knew Reuters must be highly biased because that's simply BS. FYI: My plate is way too full starting tomorrow (Wednesday) through Friday. If you respond, don't be surprised if I don't reply until Saturday. What can I tell ya? 16 Nobel prize winners. I kind of trust them about economic issues, though I really didn’t need them to tell me that Trump’s two main ideas of high tariffs and mass deportations of migrant workers will both be economic catastrophes. And now Reuters is biased??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106 Posted June 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: What can I tell ya? 16 Nobel prize winners. I kind of trust them about economic issues, though I really didn’t need them to tell me that Trump’s two main ideas of high tariffs and mass deportations of migrant workers will both be economic catastrophes. And now Reuters is biased??? Arguments from Authority? You think that's gonna' work? Do you have any thoughts of your own? Or do you go along and just let them tell you not to believe your lying' eyes and ears? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted June 26, 2024 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Arguments from Authority? You think that's gonna' work? Do you have any thoughts of your own? Or do you go along and just let them tell you not to believe your lying' eyes and ears? One of the biggest problems we face today is the conservative rejection of any expert that tells them something they don’t want to hear. With Covid that cost us millions of lives. With climate change it’s leading us towards catastrophe. But to answer your question, of course I have thoughts of my own. Here’s one: high tariffs will be an absolute disaster for the American economy. Trump’s words on this issue demonstrate he understands nothing about economic issues and cannot be trusted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted June 26, 2024 9 hours ago, easilyscan said: I read the article: I almost fell out of my chair when I saw the following quote "Many Americans are concerned about inflation, which has come down remarkably fast" Right then I knew Reuters must be highly biased because that's simply BS. Chart don't lie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted June 26, 2024 The problem is your average simpleton doesn’t understand what it means for inflation to come down. They think that means we’re going to turn back the clock to 2019 prices And to show how stupid that belief is — why stop there? Shouldn’t we go back to 2010 prices? 1990? Hell how about the 50s when a coke was a nickel If they understood that it just means prices won’t increase by as much going forward, they’d be pretty happy with the situation. But they don’t know what they’re talking about, so here we are. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 26, 2024 16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: What can I tell ya? 16 Nobel prize winners. I kind of trust them about economic issues, though I really didn’t need them to tell me that Trump’s two main ideas of high tariffs and mass deportations of migrant workers will both be economic catastrophes. And now Reuters is biased??? Krugman won one. Trust him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted June 26, 2024 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: The problem is your average simpleton doesn’t understand what it means for inflation to come down. They think that means we’re going to turn back the clock to 2019 prices And to show how stupid that belief is — why stop there? Shouldn’t we go back to 2010 prices? 1990? Hell how about the 50s when a coke was a nickel If they understood that it just means prices won’t increase by as much going forward, they’d be pretty happy with the situation. But they don’t know what they’re talking about, so here we are. So cheaper gas would be a bad thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites