my 2 "nieces" Val and Henri are staying with us for the summer again

[edjr 6,588]

16 year old born female. Please call him Henri

13 year old born female. Please call him Val.

FML

They are my SO's nieces. My poor soon to be 11 year old son, is so confused by it all. 

Another tranny thread? Nope. 

[TimHauck 2,873]

Ok there could be some nurture vs nature going on here

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

Just say no

[MDC 7,425]

 

[edjr 6,588]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Ok there could be some nurture vs nature going on here

Agreed. Their father was in the coast guard and was away at least half their lives. That did not help.

 

[edjr 6,588]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just say no

Tried. Their mother dropped them off to us when we were vacationing in Florida. 3 hour drive, here you go!

[TimHauck 2,873]

Just now, edjr said:

Agreed. Their father was in the coast guard and was away at least half their lives. That did not help.

 

Is the mom a tranny?

[Mike Honcho 5,275]

I don't care what anyone wants to be called as long as it's grammatically correct.  People who call themselves they, them---fock off, you're one person.  Hell, you don't know how many voices I have going on in my head and I don't say we, us. 

We all have to have our lines. 

[edjr 6,588]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is the mom a tranny?

No. It all started when the older one was told in 4th grade "we will call you by whatever name you want" 

[kilroy69 1,250]

I have a 10 year old son that has a pair of twin cousins.. One of them has insisted that she is a boy (after a stay in a mental insinuation for trying to kill herself) I tell my son the same thing over and over. She has a mental illness. We are not going to be mean to her but we also do not have to participate in her mental illness. 

[edjr 6,588]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

I don't care what anyone wants to be called as long as it's grammatically correct.  People who call themselves they, them---fock off, you're one person.  Hell, you don't know how many voices I have going on in my head and I don't say we, us. 

We all have to have our lines. 

Last year only the older one stayed with us, as the younger one was too depressed/anxious to leave the house. I hated the idea of calling her by a boy name.

They have beat me down and now I call them by what they want. 

[TimHauck 2,873]

How close are their given names to their preferred names?  Do they actually have boys haircuts etc and look like boys or just go by those names?  Val could be a girl’s name also fwiw

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,103]

8 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I have a 10 year old son that has a pair of twin cousins.. One of them has insisted that she is a boy (after a stay in a mental insinuation for trying to kill herself) I tell my son the same thing over and over. She has a mental illness. We are not going to be mean to her but we also do not have to participate in her mental illness. 

This is the way.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

How close are their given names to their preferred names?  Do they actually have boys haircuts etc and look like boys or just go by those names?  Val could be a girl’s name also fwiw

Asking for a friend?

[edjr 6,588]

Just now, TimHauck said:

How close are their given names to their preferred names?  Do they actually have boys haircuts etc and look like boys or just go by those names?  Val could be a girl’s name also fwiw

No. Nothing close. Dress like boys, short curly hair. don't shave their legs. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

9 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I have a 10 year old son that has a pair of twin cousins.. One of them has insisted that she is a boy (after a stay in a mental insinuation for trying to kill herself) I tell my son the same thing over and over. She has a mental illness. We are not going to be mean to her but we also do not have to participate in her mental illness. 

participate in her mental illness?  By calling her the name she wants to be called?  What if she had anxiety that was triggered by your dog, would you bring the dog around her anyway?  What if she was suicide, would you still tell her to kill herself as a joke, because you're not participating in her mental illness?

[kilroy69 1,250]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

participate in her mental illness?  By calling her the name she wants to be called?  What if she had anxiety that was triggered by your dog, would you bring the dog around her anyway?  What if she was suicide, would you still tell her to kill herself as a joke, because you're not participating in her mental illness?

I do not want anyone to kill themselves. That being said. I am not required to participate in anyone's mental illness. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

participate in her mental illness?  By calling her the name she wants to be called?  What if she had anxiety that was triggered by your dog, would you bring the dog around her anyway?  What if she was suicide, would you still tell her to kill herself as a joke, because you're not participating in her mental illness?

I dont mind calling you Sally

[edjr 6,588]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

participate in her mental illness?  By calling her the name she wants to be called?  What if she had anxiety that was triggered by your dog, would you bring the dog around her anyway?  What if she was suicide, would you still tell her to kill herself as a joke, because you're not participating in her mental illness?

For once GB is correct. Sadly most kids today are so fragile.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

I do not want anyone to kill themselves. That being said. I am not required to participate in anyone's mental illness. 

There are a lot of things we're "not required to do", but people do things they are not required to do because they are good people who care about others.  What if it was your kid?  What if your kid had a mental illness and asked you to do something for them?  Fock you kid, I'm not required to participate in your mental illness?  That's the kind of person you are?

[Alias Detective 1,401]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

There are a lot of things we're "not required to do", but people do things they are not required to do because they are good people who care about others.  What if it was your kid?  What if your kid had a mental illness and asked you to do something for them?  Fock you kid, I'm not required to participate in your mental illness?  That's the kind of person you are?

At least you agree if you think you are a different gender you have a mental illness.  You are coming along.  Proud of you.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

At least you agree if you think you are a different gender you have a mental illness.  You are coming along.  Proud of you.

I don't know if it is or not to be honest, nor does it matter.  If a person tells you they are depressed, you don't tell them "no you're not you freak", same way if a girl tells you that they feel like a boy.  It's called common decency and treating others with respect, treating people the way you would want to be treated.

[edjr 6,588]

6 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

At least you agree if you think you are a different gender you have a mental illness.  You are coming along.  Proud of you.

these kids are not mentally ill. They are just confused and brainwashed. 

[kilroy69 1,250]

14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

There are a lot of things we're "not required to do", but people do things they are not required to do because they are good people who care about others.  What if it was your kid?  What if your kid had a mental illness and asked you to do something for them?  Fock you kid, I'm not required to participate in your mental illness?  That's the kind of person you are?

 I would do everything I could to fix him if he had this mental illness.   I would treat it like bulimia. That is a mental illness but no one accepts it and says "ok just do you. Go ahead and puke your guts out" giving into their mental illness is not going to help them. It just encourages them to stay the course. I am never going to encourage anyone to kill themselves but if someone calls you by your old name and you kill yourself you are looking for an excuse and even more proof of their mental illness. 

[Nomad99 742]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

16 year old born female. Please call him Henri

13 year old born female. Please call him Val.

FML

They are my SO's nieces. My poor soon to be 11 year old son, is so confused by it all. 

Another tranny thread? Nope. 

The odds of two kids in the same family being non binary are greater than the odds of being born twice.......it's a social construct.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

There are a lot of things we're "not required to do", but people do things they are not required to do because they are good people who care about others.  What if it was your kid?  What if your kid had a mental illness and asked you to do something for them?  Fock you kid, I'm not required to participate in your mental illness?  That's the kind of person you are?

If my kid had a mental illness I wouldn’t be offing them on someone else for the summer. I’d handle that myself.  

[edjr 6,588]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If my kid had a mental illness I wouldn’t be offing them on someone else for the summer. I’d handle that myself.  

they are perfectly normal kids for 2024, they spend 95% of the time on their phones. 

 

[Thornton Melon 620]

Can size of the 16 YO? 

[edjr 6,588]

5 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

Can size of the 16 YO? 

 

you're in MA. come on up and visit. 

[Mark Davis 398]

45 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

 I would do everything I could to fix him if he had this mental illness.   I would treat it like bulimia. That is a mental illness but no one accepts it and says "ok just do you. Go ahead and puke your guts out" giving into their mental illness is not going to help them. It just encourages them to stay the course. I am never going to encourage anyone to kill themselves but if someone calls you by your old name and you kill yourself you are looking for an excuse and even more proof of their mental illness. 

I agree with you.  You can treat someone with common decency and respect without aiding a delusion.  It's not an either/or situation so that if you don't totally comply to that delusion that you are actively mistreating them.  If anything I think we mistreat them by turning a blind eye to their illness rather than trying to help.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 hour ago, kilroy69 said:

 I would do everything I could to fix him if he had this mental illness.   I would treat it like bulimia. That is a mental illness but no one accepts it and says "ok just do you. Go ahead and puke your guts out" giving into their mental illness is not going to help them. It just encourages them to stay the course. I am never going to encourage anyone to kill themselves but if someone calls you by your old name and you kill yourself you are looking for an excuse and even more proof of their mental illness. 

You obviously don't know anything about mental illness.  Their feelings are their feelings, and it's not a matter of participating in their mental illness, it's validating their feelings and what they're going through.  You might not agree with it, but you don't get to make that choice for someone else.  Just like if someone had bulimia and they made themselves vomit, you're not going to deny that it happened.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

Tried. Their mother dropped them off to us when we were vacationing in Florida. 3 hour drive, here you go!

fix that sh1t while they are gone, it will help them the rest of their life

[Nomad99 742]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You obviously don't know anything about mental illness.  Their feelings are their feelings, and it's not a matter of participating in their mental illness, it's validating their feelings and what they're going through.  You might not agree with it, but you don't get to make that choice for someone else.  Just like if someone had bulimia and they made themselves vomit, you're not going to deny that it happened.

You are the one that doesn't know anything about mental illness. What are the chances that two children, roughly the same age, from the same family unit, in the same house....have the Same mental illness at the Same time. This isn't mental illness....this is a social constuct that they have gotten sucked into or groomed into.

[kilroy69 1,250]

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You obviously don't know anything about mental illness.  Their feelings are their feelings, and it's not a matter of participating in their mental illness, it's validating their feelings and what they're going through.  You might not agree with it, but you don't get to make that choice for someone else.  Just like if someone had bulimia and they made themselves vomit, you're not going to deny that it happened.

I am not making a choice for someone else. I am making a choice for me. I am not participating in their mental illness. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348]

9 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

You are the one that doesn't know anything about mental illness. What are the chances that two children, roughly the same age, from the same family unit, in the same house....have the Same mental illness at the Same time. This isn't mental illness....this is a social constuct that they have gotten sucked into or groomed into.

bingo, the odds of one kid is roughly 1 in 3000, the odds of 2 kids in the same family is 1 in 9 million at best

the odds that the mother is a flaming liberal indoctrinating her kids to score points is 1 in 1

[edjr 6,588]

11 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

You are the one that doesn't know anything about mental illness. What are the chances that two children, roughly the same age, from the same family unit, in the same house....have the Same mental illness at the Same time. This isn't mental illness....this is a social constuct that they have gotten sucked into or groomed into.

Nailed it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

Gotta love when Gutterboy starts spouting his nonsense. “Their feelings are their feelings” “you wouldn’t deny (throwing up) happened. Hey idiot, the throwing up isn’t the mental illness.  It’s a result of it. What you don’t do is tell the anorexic that yes, they are fat.  Which is what you’re doing. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

participate in her mental illness?  By calling her the name she wants to be called?  What if she had anxiety that was triggered by your dog, would you bring the dog around her anyway?  What if she was suicide, would you still tell her to kill herself as a joke, because you're not participating in her mental illness?

Fear of dogs and suicidal ideations don’t conflict with objective truths. Allowing people to create alternate reality helps no one. Anymore idiotic analogies?

[edjr 6,588]

26 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

fix that sh1t while they are gone, it will help them the rest of their life

Agreed. The thing is, both of their parents refuse to call them by what they want, and that is part of the issue. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You obviously don't know anything about mental illness.  Their feelings are their feelings, and it's not a matter of participating in their mental illness, it's validating their feelings and what they're going through.  You might not agree with it, but you don't get to make that choice for someone else.  Just like if someone had bulimia and they made themselves vomit, you're not going to deny that it happened.

If they’re anorexic, would you withhold food?  I mean, they “feel” like they’re fat.  You have to respect that.