So a person tried to assassinate Trump

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

Anyone could see that the left wings violent rhetoric and normalization of political violence would lead to an outcome like this.  Just like anyone should see that our open border will lead to a major terrorist attack in the homeland. Sad but true 

[Herbivore 1,116]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sounds more like he was just nuts.  Like Crooks.

basically agree..don't think politicians should use that language though

[GutterBoy 2,898]

21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Those types of things can motivate the nutjobs though.  That's why it's important they are more careful with what they say.  Far too many people are mentally unstable and will take ads like that as marching orders.  It's why people blame Trump for the Capitol riot.

The right talks about replacement theory which scares white people.  Right wing dude goes to Buffalo supermarket and murders black people.

Cdub talks about evil jews.  Right white dude murders a bunch of jews at a synagogue.

Maga talks about poisoning the blood of America, Right wing dude murders a bunch of people in Walmart.

Trump tells maga rioters to go to the capitol and fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore.  140 cops injured.

Rhetoric is an accelerator.

[HellToupee 1,596]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

More evidence about who the alpha is: Biden called the widow of the firefighter who died a few hours after it happened. Trump still hasn’t called her. 

This is a lie . You forking POS have to include a grieving family to make some stupid political point to feel good about yourselves.  

 

stop lying

[GutterBoy 2,898]

9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This is a lie . You forking POS have to include a grieving family to make some stupid political point to feel good about yourselves.  

 

stop lying

Yeah just terrible.  The best way to respect the grieving family is to sell $300 sneakers.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT seems to have a lot of legs.  How inclusive, really lowering the temperature.

[MDC 7,148]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Seems like you haven’t forgotten

 

 

 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Seems like you haven’t forgotten

 

 

 

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No you just come to every thread and yell centrist. Again have some views that lean left and some that lean right. You really can’t comprehend that can you

Because in so many threads I see you just spouting what the MAGAs on here believe. I don't ever remember seeing you push them on anything- you just repeat what MAGA says and back it. And then you always yell "I believe this thing the left does..." When I see you call out people on both sides then fine. And before you say- I've gone after the "boyo" weirdo and I've pushed back on real time and gutterboy at times. So save that attempt. 

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can see what’s going on here, like it always does. The massive failure by a DEI appointee whose main concern was more DEI hiring, being defended by the leftist media with their attempts to place blame on the local cops and the useful idiots are carrying the message.  It’s clear as day.  

You really have this weird black or white mentality (kind of like someone on the spectrum). No one is saying it is solely on the local cops. The conversation has pretty much been that the process broke down somewhere and while that is ultimately going to fall on the SS the key thing will be where the breakdown occurred so it can be fixed going forward. Literally no one here said "It's all on the local cops." 

[HellToupee 1,596]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah just terrible.  The best way to respect the grieving family is to sell $300 sneakers.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT seems to have a lot of legs.  How inclusive, really lowering the temperature.

Unfortunately te preorder in my size , 13 , sold out. But I did order Trump Pro 1 Ultra golf shoes. Downside is I have to wait until the 1st week of September 

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/products/trump-pro-golf-shoes

[MDC 7,148]

3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Unfortunately te preorder in my size , 13 , sold out. But I did order Trump Pro 1 Ultra golf shoes. Downside is I have to wait until the 1st week of September 

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/products/trump-pro-golf-shoes

Do they come with the curly wig and red nose or do you have to buy those separate?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Because in so many threads I see you just spouting what the MAGAs on here believe. I don't ever remember seeing you push them on anything- you just repeat what MAGA says and back it. And then you always yell "I believe this thing the left does..." When I see you call out people on both sides then fine. And before you say- I've gone after the "boyo" weirdo and I've pushed back on real time and gutterboy at times. So save that attempt. 

You really have this weird black or white mentality (kind of like someone on the spectrum). No one is saying it is solely on the local cops. The conversation has pretty much been that the process broke down somewhere and while that is ultimately going to fall on the SS the key thing will be where the breakdown occurred so it can be fixed going forward. Literally no one here said "It's all on the local cops." 

so who I push back on defines what my beliefs are

I always thought that was determined by what my beliefs are

and youre right, I am not going to argue with "MAGA" cause I am looking for a policy that has been implemented that I don't like, outside of bump stock bans and drone strikes

example, I 100% agree with the scotus decision from a constitutional standpoint on ROE, however I am pro abortion 

 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so who I push back on defines what my beliefs are

I always thought that was determined by what my beliefs are

and youre right, I am not going to argue with "MAGA" cause I am looking for a policy that has been implemented that I don't like, outside of bump stock bans and drone strikes

 

Sounds exactly like how I'm treated on here by guys like HT and Toupee.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Sounds exactly like how I'm treated on here by guys like HT and Toupee.

I know bro

[Reality 3,104]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Seems like you haven’t forgotten

 

 

 

Yup, all related to the left's response to the assassination attempt, thanks for proving my point.

Had to take you off ignore, forgot you existed.

Appreciate you backing me up though.

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so who I push back on defines what my beliefs are

I always thought that was determined by what my beliefs are

and youre right, I am not going to argue with "MAGA" cause I am looking for a policy that has been implemented that I don't like, outside of bump stock bans and drone strikes

example, I 100% agree with the scotus decision from a constitutional standpoint on ROE, however I am pro abortion 

 

Who you choose to defend belies what you say about yourself. If you are a centrist and then do nothing but defend the MAGA system it calls into question your centrist nature (and I know because I've been called on it many times here- by others and by you). 

There are conversations I don't wade into because I think people are going way off the rails (from both directions). I've called out the BeachGuy weirdo for things he says. Again- I've called out realtim and gutter for going too far on things. I call out the many here on the right when they go too far. (And I can grant that with a plurality of people here on the right it amplifies reactions in one way or another).

And yes you keep going to the abortion thing. I told you- I don't dispute what you are saying. I don't take issue with it. I take issue with the fact you always seem to line up right behind every MAGA person here and the conspiracy stuff they throw out. At some point it feels like the abortion thing is becoming your "I have a black friend" defense. 

Lastly- I'm mostly making fun of you because you did that whole "I'm the most centrist poster here" thing which I find hilarious

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I can’t speak for @Herbivore, but I didn’t have a problem with it.

But anyone complaining about Biden saying “bullseye” should have also complained about Palin.

I would agree that Biden bringing that up and saying it was different was dumb.

I don't disagree.  My main point was that you apparently read their chain and decided to go after @RLLD and trying to call out his hypocrisy and not @Herbivore for his.

[HellToupee 1,596]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Who you choose to defend belies what you say about yourself. If you are a centrist and then do nothing but defend the MAGA system it calls into question your centrist nature

Maybe he defends the MAGA ideology 50% of the time and criticizes 50%. 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

Just now, HellToupee said:

Maybe he defends the MAGA ideology 50% of the time and criticizes 50%. 

No...Maybe 75/25 at best.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

2 hours ago, Herbivore said:

I rarely have outrage, but I don't think politicians should use that kind of language ever. Its irresponsible. It was easy for me to remember when Gabby was shot and why. It was also very easy to bring up when our Geek righties cried about rhetoric. I suspect you buried previous R rhetoric and are now outraged about D rhetoric. So, yes, your bad.

I agree, I don't think politicians should use that kind of language, but they're all doing it.  You seem to be putting a lot of blame on Palin.  Fine.  I have no issue with that.  I guess I'm wondering where you're consistency is.  I don't recall your same vehemence with what the left has been doing the last 8 years, nor Biden just a week ago with his "bullseye" comment.  Maybe that was just you burying the D rhetoric.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

Remember when Kamala went and visited Jacob Blake in the hospital and said  she was proud of him? Proud of him for justifiably getting shot by police. Nah, the left doesn’t condone violence. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

53 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This is a lie . You forking POS have to include a grieving family to make some stupid political point to feel good about yourselves.  

 

stop lying

Not a lie: 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-corey-helen-comperatore-wife-called-rally-1925577

It may have changed- someone told Trump “you’d better call her; it’s starting to look bad.” So he probably has by now. But the fact that he waited days to do it just shows what a sh!t he truly is, the “alpha” you’re supporting. The same dude who made fun of Paul Pelosi being attacked. The same dude who called our dead military “losers and suckers” (that’s not a lie either.) 

Why don’t you just admit that the guy you claim to love is an awful awful slimy human being? Biden isn’t perfect but he’s about a thousand times more decent than this guy. 

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

19 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Who you choose to defend belies what you say about yourself. If you are a centrist and then do nothing but defend the MAGA system it calls into question your centrist nature (and I know because I've been called on it many times here- by others and by you). 

There are conversations I don't wade into because I think people are going way off the rails (from both directions). I've called out the BeachGuy weirdo for things he says. Again- I've called out realtim and gutter for going too far on things. I call out the many here on the right when they go too far. (And I can grant that with a plurality of people here on the right it amplifies reactions in one way or another).

And yes you keep going to the abortion thing. I told you- I don't dispute what you are saying. I don't take issue with it. I take issue with the fact you always seem to line up right behind every MAGA person here and the conspiracy stuff they throw out. At some point it feels like the abortion thing is becoming your "I have a black friend" defense. 

Lastly- I'm mostly making fun of you because you did that whole "I'm the most centrist poster here" thing which I find hilarious

the only one close IN BELIEFS to me is Herbivore

and yep I use the abortion thing, but I also use the cannabis thing, the gay thing, the healthcare thing, the anti-war thing (which used to be a hippie liberal thing)

you saying you go up against Beachguy, I can match you with that I go up against Iam90's and Casual Ob

and again my claim being centrist cause if you list the 100 most important issues I will align probably 53/47 leaning conservative

I have said a million times here, policy is all that matters to me

 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the only one close IN BELIEFS to me is Herbivore

and yep I use the abortion thing, but I also use the cannabis thing, the gay thing, the healthcare thing, the anti-war thing (which used to be a hippie liberal thing)

you saying you go up against Beachguy, I can match you with that I go up against Iam90's and Casual Ob

and again my claim being centrist cause if you list the 100 most important issues I will align probably 53/47 leaning conservative

I have said a million times here, policy is all that matters to me

 

Hey Raiders are you a Drexel guy? My nephew got accepted there; we’re going to visit him in the fall (gives me an excuse to see Philadelphia for the first time; never been. After that I’m flying to Pittsburgh to see a home Steelers game- never done that either.) 

[Sean Mooney 1,948]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the only one close IN BELIEFS to me is Herbivore

and yep I use the abortion thing, but I also use the cannabis thing, the gay thing, the healthcare thing, the anti-war thing (which used to be a hippie liberal thing)

you saying you go up against Beachguy, I can match you with that I go up against Iam90's and Casual Ob

and again my claim being centrist cause if you list the 100 most important issues I will align probably 53/47 leaning conservative

I have said a million times here, policy is all that matters to me

 

Whatever you say man....I'm not going over it and over it anymore because I don't think it interests anyone outside of us

I'll let your comments going forward and how you choose to approach things speak for itself to me. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey Raiders are you a Drexel guy? My nephew got accepted there; we’re going to visit him in the fall (gives me an excuse to see Philadelphia for the first time; never been. After that I’m flying to Pittsburgh to see a home Steelers game- never done that either.) 

no its my son's name, its 2 fold, my exwifes favorite movie is True Romance, and Drexel University made that sweet 16 run in the 90's and I'm a huge dragon nerd so it was easy to root for them

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I was out most of the day yesterday so I may have missed this in the thread- so apologies if it has already been mentioned.

Morning Joe yesterday had on a former Secret Service member and a reporter who worked with the Secret Service in the White House at one point (like an embedded type series). They were talking about some of the stuff as it related to the shooting on Saturday.

1.) The Secret Service was working with the local police force to help lock down some areas (common practice apparently). 

2.) The building the kid was on had local cops inside the building as a means of securing the building. They did include the building in their security plans but because it was 150 yards outside the venue they felt it clear.

3.) Additionally, the building had a sloped roof and it was determined that it would not be safe and/or feasible to have a person stationed on it- both from a standing practice and from a strategic vantage point. So the communication with the local cops led to the building having a police presence inside but not on top. (Again mentioned as not uncommon practice from them)

4.) Joe then did question the training of the Secret Service members as after Trump was shot there was communication that the shooter was down but that there still could have been a second or third shooter stationed somewhere and thus leaving Trump's head exposed for like 10 seconds was highly dangerous, not the mention letting him be exposed en route to the car (when you look at the video and pictures you can see that Trump's head for a lot of the time is above the Secret Service members heads.

5.) The former Secret Service guy discussed that the mission of the SS is to essentially manhandle the person they are protecting to physically make them keep their head down and stay hidden as best they can. He is unsure if the guys were trained on that correctly or if they defer to Trump too much (he did mention as you are around these people constantly you can get chummy with them and sometimes to a detriment).

It was a fascinating 10-15 minute segment on the show to hear. 

Also, I saw on Mediaite  a clip from CNN where they put together an interesting video that syncs up the video of the Trump shooting with the footage from social media and outlines the one minute and 57 seconds that occurred from the time the crowd first noticed the gunman to the shooting. 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-shows-stunning-side-by-side-video-of-how-trump-shooting-unfolded-combining-news-footage-with-eyewitness-accounts/

2 & 3 are silly (not you for posting them, but as an explanation given by the secret service/local LE). I hope that’s not the real explanation because it’s a terrible one.

4 & 5, yeah these secret service people are basically hardcore Trumpers. We saw that in the January 6 hearings. And that’s okay, he should have people he trusts. But they definitely did let him react in a way that they technically should not have. But at some point it is Trump’s choice, especially while he is a candidate and not the actual president.

[squistion 1,959]

30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not a lie: 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-corey-helen-comperatore-wife-called-rally-1925577

It may have changed- someone told Trump “you’d better call her; it’s starting to look bad.” So he probably has by now. But the fact that he waited days to do it just shows what a sh!t he truly is, the “alpha” you’re supporting. The same dude who made fun of Paul Pelosi being attacked. The same dude who called our dead military “losers and suckers” (that’s not a lie either.) 

Why don’t you just admit that the guy you claim to love is an awful awful slimy human being? Biden isn’t perfect but he’s about a thousand times more decent than this guy. 

Not likely to ever see that. He has defended everything Trump has done going back to the reprehensible mocking of a disabled reporter. 

[Herbivore 1,116]

37 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I agree, I don't think politicians should use that kind of language, but they're all doing it.  You seem to be putting a lot of blame on Palin. Not a lot, but some. Fine.  I have no issue with that.  I guess I'm wondering where you're consistency is.  I don't recall your same vehemence with what the left has been doing the last 8 years, nor Biden just a week ago with his "bullseye" comment.  Maybe that was just you burying the D rhetoric. You probably don't remember my vehemence when the Giffords thing went down, because it didn't really exist. You know, I didn't have outrage. then or now. 

My point to rlld was the people having outrage now, the Rs crying about rhetoric, are full of crap. They, you, are not consistent. I have been, while also calling out your inconsistency. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

Eric Trump confirms he has no stiches on his ear, so it's just a scratch.  Good thing he's wearing that maxi pad.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,713]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Eric Trump confirms he has no stiches on his ear, so it's just a scratch.  Good thing he's wearing that maxi pad.

Can’t stitch something that was blown off.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Can’t stitch something that was blown off.  

Evander Holyfield got 8 stiches in his ear after Tyson bit it off.  Shut up.

[HellToupee 1,596]

56 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not likely to ever see that. He has defended everything Trump has done going back to the reprehensible mocking of a disabled reporter. 

He never did that 

 

hth

[Tree of Knowledge 1,713]

56 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not likely to ever see that. He has defended everything Trump has done going back to the reprehensible mocking of a disabled reporter. 

He’s called and helped raise over $5 million for the family.  You hateful cretins need to stop.  

[Tree of Knowledge 1,713]

12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Evander Holyfield got 8 stiches in his ear after Tyson bit it off.  Shut up.

Same exact wound, I’m sure.   Derrr

[squistion 1,959]

Take this with a grain of salt, don't know how credible the source is:

https://newpittsburghcourier.com/2024/07/14/donald-trump-reportedly-hit-by-glass-shards-during-shooting-at-pennsylvania-rally-president-biden-reacts/

Donald Trump reportedly hit by glass shards during shooting at Pennsylvania rally, President Biden reacts

On July 13, Donald Trump was reportedly hit by glass shards, not a bullet, after a shooting occurred at scheduled rally in Pennsylvania. According to law enforcement, a bullet hit a teleprompter and Trump was grazed by glass shards. 

Trump appeared to bleed from his ear as he was rushed off of the stage by secret service agents. 

However, Trump claimed that he was shot on his social media platform writing, “I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place,” he wrote on his social media site.”

At least one attendee was pronounced dead and two others were critically injured. Secret Service agents reportedly killed the suspected the shooter. 

President Joe Biden reportedly spoke with Trump following the incident. He also released a statement condemning gun violence. 

[...]

This article originally appeared in the Atlanta Daily World.

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,713]

It was a spit wad from a straw will be the next claim. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,956]

That someone person said something about Trump again.  He/she is always in the right place at the right time. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

It was a spit wad from a straw will be the next claim. 

It was a small bullet or possibly a glass fragment.  It would be nice if they issued a report so we had accurate information.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

8 minutes ago, squistion said:

Take this with a grain of salt, don't know how credible the source is:

https://newpittsburghcourier.com/2024/07/14/donald-trump-reportedly-hit-by-glass-shards-during-shooting-at-pennsylvania-rally-president-biden-reacts/

Donald Trump reportedly hit by glass shards during shooting at Pennsylvania rally, President Biden reacts

On July 13, Donald Trump was reportedly hit by glass shards, not a bullet, after a shooting occurred at scheduled rally in Pennsylvania. According to law enforcement, a bullet hit a teleprompter and Trump was grazed by glass shards. 

Trump appeared to bleed from his ear as he was rushed off of the stage by secret service agents. 

However, Trump claimed that he was shot on his social media platform writing, “I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place,” he wrote on his social media site.”

At least one attendee was pronounced dead and two others were critically injured. Secret Service agents reportedly killed the suspected the shooter. 

President Joe Biden reportedly spoke with Trump following the incident. He also released a statement condemning gun violence. 

[...]

This article originally appeared in the Atlanta Daily World.

 

I've heard this rumor a lot too.  We didn't get any reports of the injury.  He didn't get any stiches.  He's covering it up on TV.

It's a more plausible solution than turning your head and getting nicked in the ear.  That's a trillion to one shot, and fits the narrative much better, so I can see why they are going with it even if it's false.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,713]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It was a small bullet or possibly a glass fragment.  It would be nice if they issued a report so we had accurate information.

What’s it matter?  Shots were fired At President Trump (perhaps at the orders of the Regime)   One patriot is dead and 2 more wounded.  You aren’t getting a reliable report.