TrailGuy 552 Posted September 11, 2024 22 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Unfortunately she didn’t show me much yesterday, and I would agree with @Horseman for once that the debate was basically a tie. Anytime a candidate screams about people eating cats and dogs, it's an automatic loss. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,908 Posted September 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, Horseman said: Butthurt? What do you mean by that? Making fun of a drunk poster is comedy gold. You are very interested in me, think I deleted posts, was drunk… It’s very odd. I attribute it to you being butthurt but could be any variety of things I suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 11 minutes ago, Horseman said: Butthurt? What do you mean by that? Making fun of a drunk poster is comedy gold. You're dealing with last word guy. He's a mess even sober. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,701 Posted September 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Anytime a candidate screams about people eating cats and dogs, it's an automatic loss. Boyo - Technically that is only for Aztec elections. Nice try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,701 Posted September 11, 2024 Wow. It looks like Father Trump did very well last night. America does love an Alpha. Undecided voters flock to Trump after debate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,416 Posted September 11, 2024 28 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: As much as I can't stand Trump, I thought things were better with him as President. It's really as simple as that. I would certainly argue this point, but let’s assume it’s correct for the moment. It then leads to two questions: 1. Why were things better, in your opinion, with Trump as President and what did he specifically do to make them better? 2. What steps do you believe Trump would do this time around to improve things again? Which of his (IMO vague) promises do you think will make things better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted September 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I would certainly argue this point, but let’s assume it’s correct for the moment. It then leads to two questions: 1. Why were things better, in your opinion, with Trump as President and what did he specifically do to make them better? 2. What steps do you believe Trump would do this time around to improve things again? Which of his (IMO vague) promises do you think will make things better? I'm sick of the democratic culture. I don't like the direction our country has been going. While I think a lot of conservatives are nutjobs, I still prefer conservative values over liberal values. To me, our country is drifting too far to the left and we need to balance it out more. Harris is not that person. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 516 Posted September 11, 2024 Harris won the debate. The main measure of that is the betting lines and that is all I look at. That said, Trump's assassination attempt has been buried in the news cycle and the debate will get buried, too. I don't think it ultimately changed the trajectory much, although Harris certainly wasn't hurt by it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,908 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Fumbleweed said: Harris won the debate. The main measure of that is the betting lines and that is all I look at. That said, Trump's assassination attempt has been buried in the news cycle and the debate will get buried, too. I don't think it ultimately changed the trajectory much, although Harris certainly wasn't hurt by it. Pretty much. The 50k undecideds in a few counties in a few states will decide it just like it has been for a few Prez elections now. A percentage of these people will choose because they don’t like the way Kamala laughs, or because she ate pizza with a fork, or because Trump talks about people eating cats, etc… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 30 minutes ago, thegeneral said: You are very interested in me, think I deleted posts, was drunk… It’s very odd. I attribute it to you being butthurt but could be any variety of things I suppose. It's ok if you don't remember, we've all been there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,908 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Horseman said: It's ok if you don't remember, we've all been there. It takes more than a couple fingers of booze to get black out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I would certainly argue this point, but let’s assume it’s correct for the moment. It then leads to two questions: 1. Why were things better, in your opinion, with Trump as President and what did he specifically do to make them better? 2. What steps do you believe Trump would do this time around to improve things again? Which of his (IMO vague) promises do you think will make things better? This is way too easy. 1 - Tax cuts. Very low immigration. Anti-woke, anti-DEI. America First. No wars. Higher percentage returns in the stock market. 2 - More of #1 I didn't list inflation that disproportionately affects poor people. I'm positioned and don't mind taking advantage of a high interest rate environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 Yesterday, when asked his plans for last night and today, creepy joe said he was going to celebrate his grandkid's birthday last night then today he is going to "do 9/11" Liberals can really pick em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 Not sure what the numbers were before the debate, but, Trump's numbers still leading by a very large margin on immigration and the economy. Leads in performing the role of Commander in Chief. Source CNN: https://ibb.co/XJJ8F8Q Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,615 Posted September 11, 2024 Sorry, accidentally posted in wrong thread before but Saagar, a conservative but who tells it like it is, thinks that the debate was a “disaster for Trump’s campaign” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted September 11, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I would certainly argue this point, but let’s assume it’s correct for the moment. It then leads to two questions: 1. Why were things better, in your opinion, with Trump as President and what did he specifically do to make them better? 2. What steps do you believe Trump would do this time around to improve things again? Which of his (IMO vague) promises do you think will make things better? This is a hilarious demand for nuance from the #1 fan boy of the candidate who is offering nothing in the way of platform and flipping on everything she’s based her political career on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 334 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Fireballer said: This is a hilarious demand for nuance from the #1 fan boy of the candidate who is offering nothing in the way of platform and flipping on everything she’s based her political career on. Trump's only platform has ever been "Trust Me". (says the biggest documented liar ever) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted September 11, 2024 Honest question - can someone share what Kamala's lies were? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Honest question - can someone share what Kamala's lies were? all of it. every word she spoke. Liberals are so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted September 11, 2024 11 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Honest question - can someone share what Kamala's lies were? Lol Start here, with receipts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,416 Posted September 11, 2024 20 minutes ago, Fireballer said: This is a hilarious demand for nuance from the #1 fan boy of the candidate who is offering nothing in the way of platform and flipping on everything she’s based her political career on. I don’t think there’s any nuance in either of my questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,615 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Reality said: Lol So no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,127 Posted September 11, 2024 Kamala mocked, belittled and bullied Trump to the point that I was embarrassed for him. Then I remembered what a POS he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,115 Posted September 11, 2024 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So no? still waiting.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted September 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, MDC said: Kamala mocked, belittled and bullied Trump to the point that I was embarrassed for him. Then I remembered what a POS he is. So he's you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted September 11, 2024 10 minutes ago, Herbivore said: still waiting.. 35 minutes ago, Reality said: Lol Start here, with receipts. HTH You'd have an easier time adding up her truths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 58 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Honest question - can someone share what Kamala's lies were? Really? She started off by saying Trump's policy platform was Project 2025, the biggest flat out lie that is out there. Police Officers were murdered on Jan 6 Trump banned IVF Trump wants to ban abortion Charlottesville Hoax Bloodbath Hoax No U.S. military members are on active duty in a combat zone. She said she supported fracking in 2020 Invested $1 trillion for clean energy Trump's economic plan would cause a recession, according to 16 nobles She's a gun owner? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,126 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: Really? She started off by saying Trump's policy platform was Project 2025, the biggest flat out lie that is out there. Charlottesville Hoax Bloodbath Hoax No U.S. military members are on active duty in a combat zone. She said she supported fracking in 2020 Invested $1 trillion for clean energy Trump's economic plan would cause a recession, according to 16 nobles She's a gun owner? lol Super Soakers count Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,096 Posted September 11, 2024 Kamala said women are bleeding in parking lots, has this been fact checked? Seems pretty bad if true... KITTENS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 38 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So no? You actually have to click on the tweet and read it. HTH. Still doesn't know how Twitter works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 I'd have a lot more respect for the media if ABC just would have fact checked her on Charlottesville alone. Even Snopes has that as false. Instead, you read any of the fact checking articles ABC/CBS/CNN/NPR, they fact check her on 3 or 6 different things. Not one mentions Charlottesville. It's as bad a cover up as Biden's dementia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 My favorite example of how bad the media is: Trump said they left 85 billion dollars worth of military equipment in Afghanistan. FALSE it was only 84.9 billion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,564 Posted September 11, 2024 17 minutes ago, Horseman said: Really? She started off by saying Trump's policy platform was Project 2025, the biggest flat out lie that is out there. Police Officers were murdered on Jan 6 Trump banned IVF Charlottesville Hoax Bloodbath Hoax No U.S. military members are on active duty in a combat zone. She said she supported fracking in 2020 Invested $1 trillion for clean energy Trump's economic plan would cause a recession, according to 16 nobles She's a gun owner? lol Also, saying Trump will sign a law outlawing abortion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,564 Posted September 11, 2024 I've been busy today so apologies if this was discussed. Let's recap the number of times the objective moderators called out Harris on her lies. [Null space] Discuss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Also, saying Trump will sign a law outlawing abortion + that she was in the capitol building during the Jan6 riot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,127 Posted September 11, 2024 40 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I've been busy today so apologies if this was discussed. Let's recap the number of times the objective moderators called out Harris on her lies. [Null space] Discuss The two times I remember the moderators calling out Trump were when he claimed that there are post birth abortions and migrants are eating our pets. They seemed to let them both go when it came to the routine sort of deflections and spin you’d expect out of a sane candidate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 6 minutes ago, MDC said: The two times I remember the moderators calling out Trump were when he claimed that there are post birth abortions and migrants are eating our pets. They seemed to let them both go when it came to the routine sort of deflections and spin you’d expect out of a sane candidate. Read much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,361 Posted September 11, 2024 When it comes to Trump: 1 - Democrats killing babies after they are born. 2 - Crime is soaring. 3 - Migrants are eating dogs, cats. 4 - Stolen 2020 election. 5 - Harris met with Putin. I give them a pass on #4 because their stance that there is no evidence was part of their lead question. For the others it should have been Kamala's job to refute and the American people's to decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,127 Posted September 11, 2024 9 minutes ago, Horseman said: Read much? Snarky! Rough night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites