Shots fired near Trump as he leaves Florida club

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Hey @nobody, this guy is actually a lib, unlike what the current evidence for Crooks shows

Not really.  He voted for Trump in 2016 and supports Vivek.  Registered independent.

[steeler6 16]

How did the shooter know he would be there?

[thegeneral 2,889]

It appears this dude was camped out with a rifle waiting to shoot people. He’s crazy.  This is what crazy people do. Everyone who isn’t crazy will condone this.

[jerryskids 6,553]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

But there ARE extreme MAGA Republicans and we must stop them. (By defeating them in elections of course.) 

 

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

No he’s not. He wrote nothing wrong there. 

So if I understand:  Trump telling people to march on the Capitol on 1/6 was a clear sign that he wanted a violent attack.

Jeffries saying "he must be stopped" is just a metaphor for defeating him in elections.  

Because all Lefties are pseuds like you, don't have Defcon 1 TDS, and would never react to such a post with violence.  Again.

Like I said, it's hard to have a serious conversation with you sometimes.   

[thegeneral 2,889]

The guy had over 100 criminal charges. Was able to get a gun.

[thegeneral 2,889]

Was fanatical about the Ukraine war, was a Vivek and Tulsi fan.

[thegeneral 2,889]

The crackpot said he voted for Trump in 2016, but in 2020 thought he was “retarded”.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

He apparently has been donating to Democrat causes since at least 2019.

[lickin_starfish 1,889]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

He apparently has been donating to Democrat causes since at least 2019.

And he dyed his hair in Ukranian yellow and blue colors.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

23 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The guy had over 100 criminal charges. Was able to get a gun.

Imagine that 

[TimHauck 2,600]

24 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The guy had over 100 criminal charges. Was able to get a gun.

Legally?  

[Fireballer 2,639]

If this wasn’t Trump, the first attempt would still be the biggest story of the election, and a 2nd attempt within months would be considered one of the most serious events in presidential history 

[TimHauck 2,600]

58 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Not really.  He voted for Trump in 2016 and supports Vivek.  Registered independent.

Interesting.  I initially saw the anti-Trump posts in 2020 and about how he wanted Bernie to win.

[lickin_starfish 1,889]

This guy obviously fell for all the schit that the media fed to him. The MSM is the real threat to our country.

[nobody 2,557]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Check your sources Son, where'd ya get that, MSNBC or CNN? 

Knee jerk it didn't happen response.

[HellToupee 1,583]

thus guy tweeted out democracy is on the ballot 

[HellToupee 1,583]

Geez not a lot of people get profiles written about them by the NYT

[HellToupee 1,583]

This guy had lots of crazy TDS posts.  Very similar to Dems here but at least  you guys don’t get violent 

[thegeneral 2,889]

9 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

This guy obviously fell for all the schit that the media fed to him. The MSM is the real threat to our country.

He seems to be a disillusioned Trump voter. 

Oh and he’s insane.

[Reality 3,092]

However much you hate the media, it's not enough. 

 

[Ron 'Tator Salad' White 116]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

However much you hate the media, it's not enough. 

 

Good thing Holts a protected DEI hire. 

[TimHauck 2,600]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Check your sources Son, where'd ya get that, MSNBC or CNN? 

 

17 minutes ago, nobody said:

Knee jerk it didn't happen response.

That was how it was initially reported by the NY Post

[TimHauck 2,600]

Gotta give CNN some credit for reporting Trump as the target before the NY Post

 

 

[lickin_starfish 1,889]

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[The Real timschochet 6,402]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

 

So if I understand:  Trump telling people to march on the Capitol on 1/6 was a clear sign that he wanted a violent attack.

Jeffries saying "he must be stopped" is just a metaphor for defeating him in elections.  

Because all Lefties are pseuds like you, don't have Defcon 1 TDS, and would never react to such a post with violence.  Again.

Like I said, it's hard to have a serious conversation with you sometimes.   

Allow me to answer for myself rather than grouping me in with people who you call “lefties”. 

1. I was uncomfortable with Trump’s rhetoric on January 6. But I don’t think it rose to the level of calling for violence. That being said, I do believe he has called for violence on other occasions and deserves to be condemned for it. But to answer your question: no it was not a clear sign, at least not to me. 

2. Yes that is my reading of Jeffries. 

3. I don’t know what a “pseud” is. I can’t speak for anyone but myself. I don’t believe Hakeem Jeffries’ statement here was in any way incendiary. 

4. You are apparently finding contradictions that don’t really exist. I can’t change that but I can honestly tell you what I’m thinking which I’ve done here . 
 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

40 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

 The MSM is the real threat to our country.

I strongly disagree with this. I hope that most people reject this. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I strongly disagree with this. I hope that most people reject this. 

[jerryskids 6,553]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Allow me to answer for myself rather than grouping me in with people who you call “lefties”. 

1. I was uncomfortable with Trump’s rhetoric on January 6. But I don’t think it rose to the level of calling for violence. That being said, I do believe he has called for violence on other occasions and deserves to be condemned for it. But to answer your question: no it was not a clear sign, at least not to me. 

2. Yes that is my reading of Jeffries. 

3. I don’t know what a “pseud” is. I can’t speak for anyone but myself. I don’t believe Hakeem Jeffries’ statement here was in any way incendiary. 

4. You are apparently finding contradictions that don’t really exist. I can’t change that but I can honestly tell you what I’m thinking which I’ve done here . 
 

1. Wut?  Are you trying to tell us that you don't think Trump incited the events of 1/6?  Can you provide a single post of yours to support this?  If not, you are not a serious poster.

I'll stop here and wait for your post(s) supporting #1 before I respond to the others. 

 

[HellToupee 1,583]

44 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

The MSM is the real threat to our country.

% agree

[IndyColtsFan 325]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I strongly disagree with this. I hope that most people reject this. 

EEMMMM ESSSSS EEMMMMM!

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

2 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

Because it's to be expected.  Apparently the would-be gunman has tweeted that "Democracy is on the ballot".  The hyperbole of Trump being a dictator, losing our democracy, etc is bound to illicit these type actions.  If people truly believe that, of course they are going to take action.  The rhetoric justifies it in and of itself.  Deep down most people who say it know that at least to some various levels of extent, it's hyperbole.  We know that because if they didn't, there would be even more of this.  But you have those who truly believe it as totally factual, and in that context they will view themselves as patriotic actors.  

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. 
 

The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been. 

[jerryskids 6,553]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. 
 

The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been. 

But, Hakeem Jeffries saying "he must be stopped" couldn't possibly incite others to try to kill him?  Reminder:  it kinda just happened.

[seafoam1 2,799]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. 
 

The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been. 

You are such a focking idiot. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. 
 

The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been. 

So you think he wants to be a dictator when he did nothing like a dictator in 4 years?

[purdygood 333]

15 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

1. Wut?  Are you trying to tell us that you don't think Trump incited the events of 1/6?  Can you provide a single post of yours to support this?  If not, you are not a serious poster.

I'll stop here and wait for your post(s) supporting #1 before I respond to the others. 

 

The fact that he chose to have a rally outside the capital that day means he had bare minimum "something" to do about what happened.  
 

he could have had a rally in front of the white house.  But he chose that spot. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

C1. Wut?  Are you trying to tell us that you don't think Trump incited the events of 1/6?  Can you provide a single post of yours to support this?  If not, you are not a serious poster.

I'll stop here and wait for your post(s) supporting #1 before I respond to the others. 

 

I’d have to dig for it, but yes. I’ve always been troubled by that particular accusation against Trump and have said so. He did, IMO, break the law and committed treason with regard to the 2020 election, but that has to do with his attempts to subvert the electoral process. He also may have acted either incompetently or with deliberate bad faith once the riot started- I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other, but not sure which. For that alone he deserves condemnation and he should never be President again. 
 

But did he actually incite violence? Not in my opinion. I’ve read that speech he gave at the Ellipse many times. He used the words “peaceful protests.” He didn’t call for violence- that time anyhow.

I have expressed this thought more than once over the last 4 years in various posts. I wouldn’t have the vaguest idea how to find it. At other times I thought that he did incite violence on that day and wrote it but then changed my mind later on. So you can take my word for this or not, your choice. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

But, Hakeem Jeffries saying "he must be stopped" couldn't possibly incite others to try to kill him?  Reminder:  it kinda just happened.

Of course it could because anyone can take what anyone says and turn it into something it’s not. That doesn’t make it incendiary. 

[Mark Davis 338]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More than one thing can be true at the same time. I believe that Donald Trump is a wanna be dictator. I think he poses a unique threat to our democracy. I think if he were elected we would survive it; nonetheless it IS a threat IMO. I don’t think that is hyperbole at all. 
 

The way to defeat the threat of Donald Trump is for Kamala Harris to win the election. Any violence against Trump or anyone else is madness and needs to be condemned by everyone as it has been. 

You're kind of agreeing with me.  It's not absolute.  There's a scale to people who only use it as hyperbole to those who accept it as 100% factual.  The majority of people who support Harris are falling in between those two points.  My thinking is though that when you examine that spectrum, the people on that endpoint of believing he's a dictator, Hitler, the end of our democracy, all things that have been said, it's easy to see why people who take it as factual try to act.  In their mind they are doing the right thing.

[purdygood 333]

15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

So you think he wants to be a dictator when he did nothing like a dictator in 4 years?

I think he'd love to be Dictator. He's just a incompetent geriatric buffoon. (Shrugs) the real threat is his cultists who want to help him get there. 

[The Real timschochet 6,402]

5 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

You're kind of agreeing with me.  It's not absolute.  There's a scale to people who only use it as hyperbole to those who accept it as 100% factual.  The majority of people who support Harris are falling in between those two points.  My thinking is though that when you examine that spectrum, the people on that endpoint of believing he's a dictator, Hitler, the end of our democracy, all things that have been said, it's easy to see why people who take it as factual try to act.  In their mind they are doing the right thing.

You know I was thinking today of the novel The Dead Zone by Stephen King. Have you read it?