Shots fired near Trump as he leaves Florida club

[purdygood 334]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

I get these notifications and it's always some nerd in one of these threads giving me the, "well, actually, technically here's a study I found that shows there's a corner case out there that has nothing to do with the overall point..."

Guys, people weren't actively stalking presidential candidates until trump.  Tell your team to stop spreading the rhetoric about him killing democracy if you want it to stop.  Or don't.  I don't really care if trump gets shot anyway.  Just stop claiming your team's highly effective programming campaign has nothing to do with it.

Maybe Trump is just a Ahole and he brought this all on himself?  I'm not saying people should be trying to kill him, but he is kind of a hateable person overall and crazy people will be crazy.   BB King said you gotta be "payin the cost to be the boss".

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23 minutes ago, purdygood said:

So if the Russians decided they want to invade Alaska you would care?

What a Moron. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

What a Moron. 

If you're talking sprinkles, I would like some more on my donut this morning, thank you!

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25 minutes ago, purdygood said:

So all attacks across the world are cool with you unless they are against America. Got it.  Sucks we had to get involved in World War 1 for no reason.

different time, different place

every war since Korea has been an absolute lie produced by the war machine

let me know when you care about all the other countries that have been invaded, why do you care so much about Ukraine?

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

29 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Charged yes.  Convicted no.

so it wasnt an assassination attempt, got it, let me know when that happens on a democrat like I stated earlier

what happened to Rand Paul out ranks anything thats happened to ANYONE on the left

Brett Kavanaugh, etc etc

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28 minutes ago, purdygood said:

So all attacks across the world are cool with you unless they are against America. Got it.  Sucks we had to get involved in World War 1 for no reason.

You think getting involved in ww 1 and sending men to die was a good thing? What did we get out of it besides WW 2? The League of Nations? The bonus army riot? 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

different time, different place

every war since Korea has been an absolute lie produced by the war machine

let me know when you care about all the other countries that have been invaded, why do you care so much about Ukraine?

 

I actually agree with you.  I care about Ukraine because Russia is a menace dictatorship that needs to be stopped. It's that simple.  Are you Russian? Why do you care if we kill a bunch of Russian soldiers by proxy?

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1 minute ago, purdygood said:

I actually agree with you.  I care about Ukraine because Russia is a menace dictatorship that needs to be stopped. It's that simple.

Yes. I too am concerned that Russia will roll trough Europe after they dispose of Ukraine in short order. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes. I too am concerned that Russia will roll trough Europe after they dispose of Ukraine in short order. 

Well we are past the point of "short order".   Those poor Russian boys who had to invade another country and are dead now, I'm sure they would think it was worth it to grab a few mountains in Ukraine.

[TimHauck 2,611]

32 minutes ago, nobody said:

I get these notifications and it's always some nerd in one of these threads giving me the, "well, actually, technically here's a study I found that shows there's a corner case out there that has nothing to do with the overall point..."

Guys, people weren't actively stalking presidential candidates until trump.  Tell your team to stop spreading the rhetoric about him killing democracy if you want it to stop.  Or don't.  I don't really care if trump gets shot anyway.  Just stop claiming your team's highly effective programming campaign has nothing to do with it.

Lol, so someone shooting at guys in suits at the White House is a “corner case,” got it.  

I agree it would be good for people to tone down the rhetoric on both sides, I just wouldn’t say rhetoric is really to blame here, especially since so far it doesn’t appear that either of the would-be assassins were actually Democrats.  If they were such suckers for the Democratic Party propaganda, you’d think they would consistently support those candidates.  

Curious, what’s your take on the Libertarian dude that said anyone that killed Kamala Harris would be an American hero? 

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6 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Well we are past the point of "short order".   Those poor Russian boys who had to invade another country and are dead now, I'm sure they would think it was worth it to grab a few mountains in Ukraine.

And the dead Ukraine boys must think it was worth it to be part of NATO

[Gepetto 1,288]

5 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Fake news you fell for it again

No, don't think so. I saw it on FoxNews including a picture of it,

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

And the dead Ukraine boys must think it was worth it to be part of NATO

I'm sure they are happy to have had the USA's backing...  or they would have been dead sooner.   But i guess in your opinion they should have bowed down and licked Putin's boots.  Like MAGA does to Trump.

[Gepetto 1,288]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

You were the one that added the qualifier in response to evidence you were wrong.

Nonetheless, looking at @TrailGuy’s list, there was still one incident of shots fired intended for Obama and one of shots fired intended for Clinton, not to mention numerous instances of bombs or poison being mailed to them.

You're wrong. He pointed out Trump is the first politician shot since Reagan.

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24 minutes ago, purdygood said:

I actually agree with you.  I care about Ukraine because Russia is a menace dictatorship that needs to be stopped. It's that simple.  Are you Russian? Why do you care if we kill a bunch of Russian soldiers by proxy?

I dont like war, I don't like war we were lied into, its that simple

innocent civilians and innocent soldiers dying isnt good, we thought the same thing marching into vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, syria, libya, yemen etc etc

we should take care of people here before spending a single dime on proxy wars, thats my bottom line

how many trillions have we wasted on that in our lifetimes?

 

[TimHauck 2,611]

1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

You're wrong. He pointed out Trump is the first politician shot since Reagan.

No, you’re wrong.  This is where he brought up Reagan:

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Cool, cool.  The lefties would have us believe that after 0 assassination attempts on presidents or presidential candidates since what? Reagan?  There's been two on Trump in the last 3 months by luck and not because the Democratic party and it's media arm have been saying he'll end democracy for four straight years.  I guess the left doesn't know how marketing and branding work.  It was just bad luck I guess.

After @TrailGuy posted a list of other assassination attempts, @nobody clarified it to “shots,” so I corrected him.

You are welcome to your opinion, but IMO, someone firing 29 shots at the White House lawn intended for Clinton, is just as much of an assassination attempt as a guy hiding in the bushes that doesn’t even fire a shot.

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont like war, I don't like war we were lied into, its that simple

innocent civilians and innocent soldiers dying isnt good, we thought the same thing marching into vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, syria, libya, yemen etc etc

we should take care of people here before spending a single dime on proxy wars, thats my bottom line

how many trillions have we wasted on that in our lifetimes?

 

Ok, (hand shake emoji) I actually agree with everything you said in this post.   I also just think in this instance, sending Ukraine weapons we are not going to use anyways and paying American companies to replenish them is a good strategic move to weaken Russia. (who IN FACT) started this war)

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6 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Ok, (hand shake emoji) I actually agree with everything you said in this post.   I also just think in this instance, sending Ukraine weapons we are not going to use anyways and paying American companies to replenish them is a good strategic move to weaken Russia.

while I dont really have a problem SELLING weapons to them, donating is a different story, I am truly afraid of Russia saying fock it lets start nuking.  de-escalating should be the answer, there have been numerous attempts at discussions (blocked by Boris Johnson first I believe).  I also believe there are alot of Russians who want to be part of Russia living in Ukraine, but not sure what the answer is

I conflate it to the number of eastern Oregonians who would love to be part of Idaho, but how do you go about that?

Imagine if you will, you grow up an American, living in California, and California secedes and becomes its own country, tons of Americans living in cali, would want to keep their allegiance to the mother land and not just be Californians, what would America do about that, if they thought that California was corrupt?

 there you go lol

 

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14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

while I dont really have a problem SELLING weapons to them, donating is a different story, I am truly afraid of Russia saying fock it lets start nuking.  de-escalating should be the answer, there have been numerous attempts at discussions (blocked by Boris Johnson first I believe).  I also believe there are alot of Russians who want to be part of Russia living in Ukraine, but not sure what the answer is

I conflate it to the number of eastern Oregonians who would love to be part of Idaho, but how do you go about that?

Imagine if you will, you grow up an American, living in California, and California secedes and becomes its own country, tons of Americans living in cali, would want to keep their allegiance to the mother land and not just be Californians, what would America do about that, if they thought that California was corrupt?

 there you go lol

 

If Russia says "F'it lets start nuking." Then they are a psychopathic dictatorship that needs to be stopped.

If those Russians who live in Ukraine want to be in Russia, guess what? They can move.  Just like any Oregonians who'd rather be in Idaho. Literally nobody is stopping them, except themselves.

I was born and grew up in (CA) America and was born and lived in CA my whole life and trust me, I know tons of people who complain about how CA is "corrupt" and I tell them "they are free to move" ... yet, they don't. Because it's too nice here.  They just like to complain because they don't know how to take ownership of their own choices. And it's "always somebody else's fault".

 

I kinda wish CA would secede.  Good luck America without us.  The 5th largest economy in the world alone.  The country of California has a nice ring to it. We already have a National Anthem.  California Love.  We also have a cool ass flag, I mean a Grizzly Bear.  Sweet.

 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, purdygood said:

If Russia says "F'it lets start nuking." Then they are a psychopathic dictatorship that needs to be stopped.

If those Russians who live in Ukraine want to be in Russia, guess what? They can move.  Just like any Oregonians who'd rather be in Idaho. Literally nobody is stopping them, except themselves.

I was born and grew up in (CA) America and was born and lived in CA my whole life and trust me, I know tons of people who complain about how CA is "corrupt" and I tell them "they are free to move" ... yet, they don't. Because it's too nice here.  They just like to complain because they don't know how to take ownership of their own choices. And it's "always somebody else's fault".

 

I kinda wish CA would secede.  Good luck America without us.  The 5th largest economy in the world alone.  The country of California has a nice ring to it. We already have a National Anthem.  California Love.  We also have a cool ass flag, I mean a Grizzly Bear.  Sweet.

 

 

 

 

or when you back a rat into the corner, I am not at all saying Russia is right btw, I am just putting hypotheticals

I do find it ironic your stance on "you can just move" seems like you would be a guy saying its unfair that Arkansas has a 6 week abortion ban, where republicans could say you can just move, thats not a possibility for the vast majority of the country to just up and move, financially quite frankly

also not really surprised youd support a country of commiefornia with its current dictator in charge, rules for thee not rules for me

 

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

or when you back a rat into the corner, I am not at all saying Russia is right btw, I am just putting hypotheticals

I do find it ironic your stance on "you can just move" seems like you would be a guy saying its unfair that Arkansas has a 6 week abortion ban, where republicans could say you can just move, thats not a possibility for the vast majority of the country to just up and move, financially quite frankly

I agree, that it is sad that most people can't just move to where they would be happier. That's a problem that no politician has ever made an issue. They should. "States Rights" should also mean "The Right to Live in Any State" that you choose.  But who is proposing that?

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58 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol, so someone shooting at guys in suits at the White House is a “corner case,” got it.  

I agree it would be good for people to tone down the rhetoric on both sides, I just wouldn’t say rhetoric is really to blame here, especially since so far it doesn’t appear that either of the would-be assassins were actually Democrats.  If they were such suckers for the Democratic Party propaganda, you’d think they would consistently support those candidates.  

Curious, what’s your take on the Libertarian dude that said anyone that killed Kamala Harris would be an American hero? 

You guys still don't get.  Marketing 101 lesson for you.  You program people through repeated messaging.  You ever notice that many commercials don't really say anything about the product?  They just put something on the screen to make you look and then they show a logo and some slogan.  The commercial is meant to program the viewer to associate the brand with something interesting.  The key is it's repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.  

And you can tell it's coordinated by The Party because their media arm always uses extremely similar language.  It's clearly a concerted effort to program viewers with a certain message.  

So who cares about 1 guy saying something about killing Harris.  That's in the noise.  It's not being picked up by the red team media arm and repeated over and over and over and over and over.

And here's marketing lesson 102.  The most effective ways to program are by manipulating a person through fear or love.  That's why the "Trump is a threat to democracy" is such a wonderfully crafted program.  It goes straight to people's fear.  Hell, half of you here have clearly bought into it.

It's also why the immigration thing about eating pets is pretty good.  It's plays on both fear and love. 

The difference is that with the immigration programming, it's saying the immigration policy is scary although I'd also expect it to lead to increased violence against immigrants if it gets a chance to take hold. 

The trump will take away democracy program focuses people's fear on one person.  It's not about attacking his policies.  It's attacking him as a person in that he's evil and "must be stopped."

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

According to Timtard, these were mostly peaceful assassination attempts.  

[TimHauck 2,611]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

You guys still don't get.  Marketing 101 lesson for you.  You program people through repeated messaging.  You ever notice that many commercials don't really say anything about the product?  They just put something on the screen to make you look and then they show a logo and some slogan.  The commercial is meant to program the viewer to associate the brand with something interesting.  The key is it's repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.  

And you can tell it's coordinated by The Party because their media arm always uses extremely similar language.  It's clearly a concerted effort to program viewers with a certain message.  

So who cares about 1 guy saying something about killing Harris.  That's in the noise.  It's not being picked up by the red team media arm and repeated over and over and over and over and over.

And here's marketing lesson 102.  The most effective ways to program are by manipulating a person through fear or love.  That's why the "Trump is a threat to democracy" is such a wonderfully crafted program.  It goes straight to people's fear.  Hell, half of you here have clearly bought into it.

It's also why the immigration thing about eating pets is pretty good.  It's plays on both fear and love. 

The difference is that with the immigration programming, it's saying the immigration policy is scary although I'd also expect it to lead to increased violence against immigrants if it gets a chance to take hold. 

The trump will take away democracy program focuses people's fear on one person.  It's not about attacking his policies.  It's attacking him as a person in that he's evil and "must be stopped."

You avoided the key question.

If people are being “programmed,” why aren’t they being programmed to only support the desired candidates?  (Routh in particular, Crooks still a bit of an unknown)

 

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43 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

We won’t have a country, she’s a radical marxist, they’re destroying the country, lock her up, January 6, etc etc etc

I mean fock off with that “democratic rhetoric” bullsh1t.

You want to say both sides need to tamp down the rhetoric, okay, and I’d agree with that. But pointing fingers when Trump created this whole focking mess? Get real.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

47 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

You're wrong. He pointed out Trump is the first politician shot since Reagan.

President yes, politician, no.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

English Bob : [discussing the assassination of President Garfield]  Well there's a dignity to royalty. A majesty that precludes the likelihood of assassination. If you were to point a pistol at a king or a queen your hands would shake as though palsied.

Barber : Oh I wouldn't point no pistol at nobody sir.

English Bob : Well that's a wise policy, as wise policy. But if you did. I can assure you, if you did, that the sight of royalty would cause you to dismiss all thoughts of bloodshed and you would stand... how shall I put it? In awe. Now, a President... well I mean... why not shoot a President?

[Fnord 2,051]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

You guys still don't get.  Marketing 101 lesson for you.  You program people through repeated messaging.  You ever notice that many commercials don't really say anything about the product?  They just put something on the screen to make you look and then they show a logo and some slogan.  The commercial is meant to program the viewer to associate the brand with something interesting.  The key is it's repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.  

And you can tell it's coordinated by The Party because their media arm always uses extremely similar language.  It's clearly a concerted effort to program viewers with a certain message.  

So who cares about 1 guy saying something about killing Harris.  That's in the noise.  It's not being picked up by the red team media arm and repeated over and over and over and over and over.

And here's marketing lesson 102.  The most effective ways to program are by manipulating a person through fear or love.  That's why the "Trump is a threat to democracy" is such a wonderfully crafted program.  It goes straight to people's fear.  Hell, half of you here have clearly bought into it.

It's also why the immigration thing about eating pets is pretty good.  It's plays on both fear and love. 

The difference is that with the immigration programming, it's saying the immigration policy is scary although I'd also expect it to lead to increased violence against immigrants if it gets a chance to take hold. 

The trump will take away democracy program focuses people's fear on one person.  It's not about attacking his policies.  It's attacking him as a person in that he's evil and "must be stopped."

Psst. Everything you say above can also be turned on MAGA. Which is one of the reasons Biden dropping out has caused such a ruckus on the right. The campaign was centered on demonizing Biden, but suddenly had to pivot on their repeated messages against him. Less time for the psyop- I mean "repeated points"- to work.

Also, most of us anti-Trump folk have hated him for a very long time. We did not need ten years of repetition in marketing to bring us around on how horrible he is, was, and will continue to be. 

[TimHauck 2,611]

17 minutes ago, nobody said:

So who cares about 1 guy saying something about killing Harris.  That's in the noise.  It's not being picked up by the red team media arm and repeated over and over and over and over and over.

Step 2. It’s not widespread 

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

This repeated lie is so disingenuous.  Who said that?

I know this may be difficult for you, but let’s think critically for a second.  In terms of the Presidential race, what would be the most likely outcome if Trump is killed now, before the election.   He gets replaced by someone else who likely wins in a landslide.   It is certainly possible that someone who wanted a Republican other than Trump to be President would be who attempts to kill him.

So far, the evidence suggest that both Crooks and Routh may have been neither Democrats or Republicans.  As someone who can admit I was wrong, I will do so here.  I previously said that Routh was a lib, but that does not appear to be the case.  In fact he specifically said “so tired of people asking me if I am a Democrat or Republican as I refuse to be put in a category.”

 

Of course I’m sure you’ll come back with some quip like “that’s what you say too.”  Very funny haha.  Okay now back to your regularly scheduled trolling and adding nothing to the conversation.

So Mitch McConnell is behind it!

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

If someone really wanted to hurt Trump, they'd send Carl after him.
 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,410]

The hypocrisy of Republicans blaming Democrats for this idiot while at the same time keeping silent as Trump and Vance spread lies about Hatian refugees which are already creating fear, hatred and death threats, is really shameful. I was going to write that it’s beyond belief, but while it should be it isn’t. The Republican Party has lost its collective mind. Hopefully after Trump loses it might get it back, but at this point I’m really not sure. 

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28 minutes ago, nobody said:

You guys still don't get. 

You program people through repeated messaging. They just put something on the screen to make you look and then they show a logo and some slogan.  The commercial is meant to program the viewer to associate the brand with something interesting.  The key is it's repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.  

And you can tell it's coordinated by The Party because their media arm always uses extremely similar language.  It's clearly a concerted effort to program viewers with a certain message.  

And here's marketing lesson 102.  The most effective ways to program are by manipulating a person through fear or love.  That's why the "Trump is a threat to democracy" is such a wonderfully crafted program.  It goes straight to people's fear. 

Make America Great Again.

The Facist Marxist Left are destroying our country.

You better fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore.

If I don't win there will be a bloodbath

They are taking you into WW3

If they win there will be a crash the likes of which we've not seen since 1929

Immigrants are raping and murdering us, destroying the blood of our nation, stealing our jobs

I'm the only one that can save you

 

Oh we get it.  Believe me we get it.

[Gepetto 1,288]

56 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The hypocrisy of Republicans blaming Democrats for this idiot while at the same time keeping silent as Trump and Vance spread lies about Hatian refugees which are already creating fear, hatred and death threats, is really shameful. I was going to write that it’s beyond belief, but while it should be it isn’t. The Republican Party has lost its collective mind. Hopefully after Trump loses it might get it back, but at this point I’m really not sure. 

I'm a Republican Trump voter. I'm not sure if the rhetoric from the Democrats deserves part of the blame for the assassination attempts, or not, I do not like Trump/Vance talking about cats/dogs being taken and eaten by Haitians in Springfield OH. 

[HotRod 69]

We all know the leftists would party like it's 1999 if they could find someone who was a good shot.

[Alias Detective 1,389]

3 hours ago, purdygood said:

Maybe Trump is just a Ahole and he brought this all on himself?  I'm not saying people should be trying to kill him, but he is kind of a hateable person overall and crazy people will be crazy.   BB King said you gotta be "payin the cost to be the boss".

Wow, just wow.  If that were the case it would be open season in the ghettos and big cities!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,926]

An African American gentleman addressed a city council meeting in Springfield and made the claim that cats were being  eaten by Haitians. Take it up with him.  There is more chance of this. being true than Biden claiming his uncle was eaten by cannibals.  That didn’t seem to bother libtards. 

[TimHauck 2,611]

Damn, they’re eating cars now too?

[MDC 7,124]

Springfield OH cancels annual CultureFest over safety concerns.

Great job Donald.