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14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

now they blew up walkie talkies this morning

 

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Israel detonates Hezbollah walkie-talkies in second wave after pager attack

Israel blew up thousands of two-way personal radios used by Hezbollah members in Lebanon in a second wave of an intelligence operation that started on Tuesday with the explosions of pager devices, two sources with knowledge of the operation told Axios.

Why it matters: The second wave of clandestine attacks is another serious security breach in Hezbollah's ranks and increases the pressure on the militant Lebanese group.

  • Lebanon's official news agency reported that at least three people were killed and dozens wounded in the explosions across the country.
  • The walkie-talkies were booby-trapped in advance by Israeli intelligence services and then delivered to Hezbollah as part of the militia's emergency communications system, which was supposed to be used during a war with Israel, the sources said.
  • The attack further damages Hezbollah's military command and control system.

Driving the news: On Tuesday, Israeli intelligence services blew up thousands of pager devices used by members of Hezbollah's military units and institutions.

  • At least nine people were killed, including a child, and more than 2,800 were wounded in the attack.

On Wednesday afternoon local time during the funerals of some of the Hezbollah members killed in the first attack, a second wave of explosions took place.

  • Videos circulating on social media showed an explosion during one of the funerals that resulted in one Hezbollah guard wounded on the floor.
  • Numerous other explosions were reported in Beirut and across Lebanon —some of them in apartments and houses.
  • One source said that because they were meant to be used only during war with Israel, a large number of the walkie-talkies were in storage in Hezbollah warehouses.

Behind the scenes: The two sources said Israel's goal in the second wave of attacks was to increase paranoia and fear in Hezbollah's ranks, in an attempt to press the militia's leadership to change its policy regarding the conflict with Israel.

 
  • "The goal was to convince Hezbollah that it is in its interest to disconnect itself from Hamas and cut a separate deal for ending the fighting with Israel regardless of a ceasefire in Gaza," the source said.
  • The two sources added that the decision to conduct the second attack was also driven by the assessment that Hezbollah's investigation into the pager explosions would likely expose the security breach in the walkie-talkies.

What they're saying: A few hours before the second wave of explosions, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a press conference in Egypt that the U.S. wasn't involved and had no knowledge of the pager attack.

  • He said all parties must avoid taking steps that escalate the conflict and widen it to more fronts.

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/israel-detonates-hezbollah-walkie-talkies-second-wave-after-pager-attack

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Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust.  Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC.  After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon.

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13 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust.  Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC.  After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon.

I think exploding burkas would work well

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14 hours ago, Horseman said:

Wrong. It's perfectly acceptable to celebrate any time terrorists die. It's also an acceptable outcome to kill a few civilians in the process knowing that hundreds or thousands are saved by having done it. 

Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. 

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This is what a country like Israel does to try their best to limit innocent lives.  Why is no other country in the area held to the same standard?   The world and our country included is pretty wishy washy on how people get to act.  Some people are held to a standard.  Others clearly are not.  Weird.  

On Nov. 22, a woman from south Lebanon received a call on her cell phone from a person claiming to be a local official, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the incident. Speaking in flawless Arabic, the caller asked whether the family was home, the sources said. No, the woman replied, explaining they had travelled to eastern Lebanon.
Minutes later, a missile slammed into the woman's home in the village of Beit Yahoun, killing five Hezbollah fighters including Abbas Raad, the son of a senior Hezbollah lawmaker and a Radwan member, the sources said.
Hezbollah believes Israel had tracked the fighters to the location and placed the call to confirm whether there were civilians present before launching the strike, they told Reuters without disclosing further details.
Israel's military said at the time that it struck a number of Hezbollah targets that day, including a "terrorist cell".

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Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world :headbanger:

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12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world :headbanger:

Look at you, adding bright color to an otherwise drab part of the world.

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9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Look at you, adding bright color to an otherwise drab part of the world.

😁

I have to wonder though, can the people who have turned blowing up others in this manner into an industry.....now object to it happening to THEM?  Will they have the balls to now pretend this kind of behavior is out of bounds?

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1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust.  Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC.  After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon.

Right on que.  Home stuff now blowing up.  

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

😁

I have to wonder though, can the people who have turned blowing up others in this manner into an industry.....now object to it happening to THEM?  Will they have the balls to now pretend this kind of behavior is out of bounds?

Umm... not if they were wearing one of those pagers.  :o 

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. 

These recent attacks on Hezbullah are probably the two most targeted, civilian-avoiding military efforts in the history of urban warfare.  The ratio of civilian to terrorist casualties is staggeringly low.

This is why the Left hates what happened, btw -- it interferes with their terrorist-supporting misinformation that Israel is indiscriminately killing civilians.  :thumbsup: 

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2 hours ago, squistion said:

Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. 

Sure it is.  Economists even put a $ number on what a human's life is worth.  Need an example?

Only pea brains run along with the canard that human life is invaluable. 

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world :headbanger:

:first:

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Just now, Horseman said:

Sure it is.  Economists even put a $ number on what a human's life is worth.  Need an example?

Only pea brains run along with the canard that human life is invaluable. 

Didn't say or suggest that Straw Man.

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And to think all they needed was one of those wipey machines at the airport and they probably would have detected the explosives. :lol:

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2 hours ago, RLLD said:

Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world :headbanger:

Too bad the Israelis didn't pack some glitter in there as well.  It could've been like little Pride parades everywhere!  🌈

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Just now, squistion said:

Didn't say or suggest that Straw Man.

You did exactly.  You said "never an acceptable outcome".  It is acceptable, it's a cost versus benefit analysis.  Economists do it all the time for things that don't even involve war.  

And you can piss off with your childish semantics games.

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Israeli army chief, Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, said plans have been drawn up for additional action against Hezbollah.

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Just now, Horseman said:

You did exactly.  You said "never an acceptable outcome".  It is acceptable, it's a cost versus benefit analysis.  Economists do it all the time for things that don't even involve war.  

And you can piss off with your childish semantics games.

And you can go on ignore.

Bye Bye! :wave:

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1 minute ago, squistion said:

And you can go on ignore.

Bye Bye! :wave:

Weaklings always run away and hide.  :thumbsup:

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4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

It’s pretty bad ass but also, how is that not an act of terrorism?

Israel needs to get its sh1t together :thumbsdown:

:lol:
incredible

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23 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Weaklings always run away and hide.  :thumbsup:

Not much else to do after such a terrible take. 

Of course sometimes it is acceptable.

Otherwise you are saying your army should surrender in situations where the only option is to have some civilian casualties. Thats just dumb. 

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Lefty rags, politicians, and talking heads have given a bigger response to this than the kidnapping, torturing, and killing of Israelis by Hamas.  Its telling.   

If you want to say well Israel isnt supposed to be a terrorist outfit and we fund them.  Thats cool.  But then lets quit recognizing Palestine as a state if it is ran by terrorists. 

In the end these people, jews and muslims in this part of the world, will never coexist as neighbors.  They are all crazy people.  There is no real solution other than something extreme.   

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6 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Umm... not if they were wearing one of those pagers.  :o 

Hamas and Hezbollah are big on blending into the population and not wearing uniforms.  If anything, this was the most targeted way to attack them.

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1 hour ago, Horseman said:

 

 

Israel is lucky to have him at this time. 

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This is impressive.   I mean just the idea, being able to pull it off.  Hezbollah has to be losing sleep right now, wondering whats next.  Give credit where due.  This is epic level stuff.

And Tim, before you pipe in with your pearl clutching...sucks civilians were hurt or killed. But this is war

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Hezbollah better perform a sweep before they decide to use their fancy new Japanese toilets. 

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"Blast them back into the stone age"

Focking Israel is doing it.  If youre hezbollah right now, do you trust anything electronic?

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8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

see now all Israel has to do is say things like better check your solar, better check your tvs

 

Your cars, your lightbulbs, your motorbikes...and on and on

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5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Lefty rags, politicians, and talking heads have given a bigger response to this than the kidnapping, torturing, and killing of Israelis by Hamas.  Its telling.   

Lol

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This is the APs take.  Fock them.

The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby.

While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community.

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3 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

This is the APs take.  Fock them.

The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby.

While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community.

If Hezbollah set off hundreds of explosions in Israel, we’d call it a terrorist attack. Just sayin

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2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

This is the APs take.  Fock them.

The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby.

While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community.

What do they say about the rockets Hezbollah blindly launch into Israel?  Precision munitions they ain't.  One might even call them "indiscriminate". 

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