jerryskids 6,781 Posted September 18, 2024 14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: now they blew up walkie talkies this morning Quote Israel detonates Hezbollah walkie-talkies in second wave after pager attack Israel blew up thousands of two-way personal radios used by Hezbollah members in Lebanon in a second wave of an intelligence operation that started on Tuesday with the explosions of pager devices, two sources with knowledge of the operation told Axios. Why it matters: The second wave of clandestine attacks is another serious security breach in Hezbollah's ranks and increases the pressure on the militant Lebanese group. Lebanon's official news agency reported that at least three people were killed and dozens wounded in the explosions across the country. The walkie-talkies were booby-trapped in advance by Israeli intelligence services and then delivered to Hezbollah as part of the militia's emergency communications system, which was supposed to be used during a war with Israel, the sources said. The attack further damages Hezbollah's military command and control system. Driving the news: On Tuesday, Israeli intelligence services blew up thousands of pager devices used by members of Hezbollah's military units and institutions. At least nine people were killed, including a child, and more than 2,800 were wounded in the attack. On Wednesday afternoon local time during the funerals of some of the Hezbollah members killed in the first attack, a second wave of explosions took place. Videos circulating on social media showed an explosion during one of the funerals that resulted in one Hezbollah guard wounded on the floor. Numerous other explosions were reported in Beirut and across Lebanon —some of them in apartments and houses. One source said that because they were meant to be used only during war with Israel, a large number of the walkie-talkies were in storage in Hezbollah warehouses. Behind the scenes: The two sources said Israel's goal in the second wave of attacks was to increase paranoia and fear in Hezbollah's ranks, in an attempt to press the militia's leadership to change its policy regarding the conflict with Israel. "The goal was to convince Hezbollah that it is in its interest to disconnect itself from Hamas and cut a separate deal for ending the fighting with Israel regardless of a ceasefire in Gaza," the source said. The two sources added that the decision to conduct the second attack was also driven by the assessment that Hezbollah's investigation into the pager explosions would likely expose the security breach in the walkie-talkies. What they're saying: A few hours before the second wave of explosions, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a press conference in Egypt that the U.S. wasn't involved and had no knowledge of the pager attack. He said all parties must avoid taking steps that escalate the conflict and widen it to more fronts. https://www.axios.com/2024/09/18/israel-detonates-hezbollah-walkie-talkies-second-wave-after-pager-attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted September 18, 2024 Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust. Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC. After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted September 18, 2024 13 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust. Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC. After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon. I think exploding burkas would work well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,183 Posted September 18, 2024 14 hours ago, Horseman said: Wrong. It's perfectly acceptable to celebrate any time terrorists die. It's also an acceptable outcome to kill a few civilians in the process knowing that hundreds or thousands are saved by having done it. Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,871 Posted September 18, 2024 This is what a country like Israel does to try their best to limit innocent lives. Why is no other country in the area held to the same standard? The world and our country included is pretty wishy washy on how people get to act. Some people are held to a standard. Others clearly are not. Weird. On Nov. 22, a woman from south Lebanon received a call on her cell phone from a person claiming to be a local official, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the incident. Speaking in flawless Arabic, the caller asked whether the family was home, the sources said. No, the woman replied, explaining they had travelled to eastern Lebanon. Minutes later, a missile slammed into the woman's home in the village of Beit Yahoun, killing five Hezbollah fighters including Abbas Raad, the son of a senior Hezbollah lawmaker and a Radwan member, the sources said. Hezbollah believes Israel had tracked the fighters to the location and placed the call to confirm whether there were civilians present before launching the strike, they told Reuters without disclosing further details. Israel's military said at the time that it struck a number of Hezbollah targets that day, including a "terrorist cell". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,219 Posted September 18, 2024 Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,576 Posted September 18, 2024 Why won’t anyone think about the terrorists?!?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted September 18, 2024 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world Look at you, adding bright color to an otherwise drab part of the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,219 Posted September 18, 2024 9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Look at you, adding bright color to an otherwise drab part of the world. I have to wonder though, can the people who have turned blowing up others in this manner into an industry.....now object to it happening to THEM? Will they have the balls to now pretend this kind of behavior is out of bounds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,871 Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: Waiting for the third wave where the Israelis send out a signal which causes Keffiyehs to combust. Be ready all you angry Hamas supporting lesbians in NYC. After that the fourth and fifth waves will involve weaponized toaster ovens and microwaves in Lebonon. Right on que. Home stuff now blowing up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,781 Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I have to wonder though, can the people who have turned blowing up others in this manner into an industry.....now object to it happening to THEM? Will they have the balls to now pretend this kind of behavior is out of bounds? Umm... not if they were wearing one of those pagers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,781 Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, squistion said: Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. These recent attacks on Hezbullah are probably the two most targeted, civilian-avoiding military efforts in the history of urban warfare. The ratio of civilian to terrorist casualties is staggeringly low. This is why the Left hates what happened, btw -- it interferes with their terrorist-supporting misinformation that Israel is indiscriminately killing civilians. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,440 Posted September 18, 2024 2 hours ago, squistion said: Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. Sure it is. Economists even put a $ number on what a human's life is worth. Need an example? Only pea brains run along with the canard that human life is invaluable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,440 Posted September 18, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,183 Posted September 18, 2024 Just now, Horseman said: Sure it is. Economists even put a $ number on what a human's life is worth. Need an example? Only pea brains run along with the canard that human life is invaluable. Didn't say or suggest that Straw Man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,440 Posted September 18, 2024 And to think all they needed was one of those wipey machines at the airport and they probably would have detected the explosives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 18, 2024 2 hours ago, RLLD said: Turning Islamic radicals into pink mist is one of THE MOST gratifying things in this world Too bad the Israelis didn't pack some glitter in there as well. It could've been like little Pride parades everywhere! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,440 Posted September 18, 2024 Just now, squistion said: Didn't say or suggest that Straw Man. You did exactly. You said "never an acceptable outcome". It is acceptable, it's a cost versus benefit analysis. Economists do it all the time for things that don't even involve war. And you can piss off with your childish semantics games. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,366 Posted September 18, 2024 Israeli army chief, Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi, said plans have been drawn up for additional action against Hezbollah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,183 Posted September 18, 2024 Just now, Horseman said: You did exactly. You said "never an acceptable outcome". It is acceptable, it's a cost versus benefit analysis. Economists do it all the time for things that don't even involve war. And you can piss off with your childish semantics games. And you can go on ignore. Bye Bye! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,440 Posted September 18, 2024 1 minute ago, squistion said: And you can go on ignore. Bye Bye! Weaklings always run away and hide. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,757 Posted September 18, 2024 4 hours ago, IGotWorms said: It’s pretty bad ass but also, how is that not an act of terrorism? Israel needs to get its sh1t together incredible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 286 Posted September 18, 2024 23 minutes ago, Horseman said: Weaklings always run away and hide. Not much else to do after such a terrible take. Of course sometimes it is acceptable. Otherwise you are saying your army should surrender in situations where the only option is to have some civilian casualties. Thats just dumb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,757 Posted September 18, 2024 34 minutes ago, squistion said: And you can go on ignore. Bye Bye! the coont has spoken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,871 Posted September 18, 2024 Lefty rags, politicians, and talking heads have given a bigger response to this than the kidnapping, torturing, and killing of Israelis by Hamas. Its telling. If you want to say well Israel isnt supposed to be a terrorist outfit and we fund them. Thats cool. But then lets quit recognizing Palestine as a state if it is ran by terrorists. In the end these people, jews and muslims in this part of the world, will never coexist as neighbors. They are all crazy people. There is no real solution other than something extreme. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 396 Posted September 19, 2024 6 hours ago, jerryskids said: Umm... not if they were wearing one of those pagers. Hamas and Hezbollah are big on blending into the population and not wearing uniforms. If anything, this was the most targeted way to attack them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,377 Posted September 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Horseman said: Israel is lucky to have him at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,338 Posted September 19, 2024 8 hours ago, squistion said: Collateral damage of killing innocent civilians is never an acceptable outcome IMO. So you didn’t support Obama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 19, 2024 https://babylonbee.com/news/hezbollah-starting-to-think-they-shouldnt-have-gotten-pagers-from-levi-goldbraumsteins-pager-emporium 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,899 Posted September 19, 2024 This is impressive. I mean just the idea, being able to pull it off. Hezbollah has to be losing sleep right now, wondering whats next. Give credit where due. This is epic level stuff. And Tim, before you pipe in with your pearl clutching...sucks civilians were hurt or killed. But this is war Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 19, 2024 Hezbollah better perform a sweep before they decide to use their fancy new Japanese toilets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,899 Posted September 19, 2024 "Blast them back into the stone age" Focking Israel is doing it. If youre hezbollah right now, do you trust anything electronic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,338 Posted September 19, 2024 see now all Israel has to do is say things like better check your solar, better check your tvs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,899 Posted September 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: see now all Israel has to do is say things like better check your solar, better check your tvs Your cars, your lightbulbs, your motorbikes...and on and on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 19, 2024 5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: Lefty rags, politicians, and talking heads have given a bigger response to this than the kidnapping, torturing, and killing of Israelis by Hamas. Its telling. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,899 Posted September 19, 2024 This is the APs take. Fock them. The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby. While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted September 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This is the APs take. Fock them. The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby. While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community. If Hezbollah set off hundreds of explosions in Israel, we’d call it a terrorist attack. Just sayin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted September 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This is the APs take. Fock them. The second wave also deepens concern over the potentially indiscriminate casualties caused in the attacks, in which hundreds of blasts went off wherever the holder of the pager happened to be — in homes, cars, at grocery stores and in cafes, often with family or bystanders nearby. While the pagers were used by Hezbollah members, there was no guarantee who was holding the device at the time it was detonated. Also, many of the casualties were not Hezbollah fighters, but members of the group’s extensive civilian operations mainly serving Lebanon’s Shiite community. What do they say about the rockets Hezbollah blindly launch into Israel? Precision munitions they ain't. One might even call them "indiscriminate". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites