The Truthful State of the Election: Landslide confirmed...310 plus EV for Trump!

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9 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Exactly.  It’s more important for this guy to win some meaningless portion of an argument than to see and discuss the big picture.

It always is.  You'd think that after we point it out to him time after time he'd get the point but he just carries on being Mr. Semantics. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

12 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Why did Trump let him go originally?

Comey set him up. Actually bragged about it. Trump played nice and canned him. No more. Tell them to fock off. Fire them and tell them to lawyer up. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

How does it feel when Twitter isn't captured by the state and we get a free flow of information on there? Liberals, do you prefer the old way of suppressing things the state doesn't agree with? Or do you prefer the free flow of information without censorship?

[HellToupee 1,776]

2008 Obama 69 million 

2012 Obama 65 million

2016 Clinton 65 million 

2020 Biden 81 million

2024 Harris 66 million 

 

no anomaly in 2020

[nobody 2,673]

Man, people are really worked up over abortions.  The part I don't get is the dads coming out on twitter talking about how they voted for Kamala so their daughters can have abortions.

Talk about shitty parenting.  Abortion shouldn't be a plan.  It should be a last resort.  You don't build your whole life around abortions.

[HellToupee 1,776]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

Man, people are really worked up over abortions.  The part I don't get is the dads coming out on twitter talking about how they voted for Kamala so their daughters can have abortions.

Talk about shitty parenting.  Abortion shouldn't be a plan.  It should be a last resort.  You don't build your whole life around abortions.

As a husband/father/son I totally agree with you . They frame it as not abortion but as “woman’s medical freedom of choice “ . It’s crazy

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15 minutes ago, nobody said:

Man, people are really worked up over abortions.  The part I don't get is the dads coming out on twitter talking about how they voted for Kamala so their daughters can have abortions.

Talk about shitty parenting.  Abortion shouldn't be a plan.  It should be a last resort.  You don't build your whole life around abortions.

No it shouldn't. But it should be an option and a majority of Americans agree with that position. 

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20 minutes ago, nobody said:

Man, people are really worked up over abortions.  The part I don't get is the dads coming out on twitter talking about how they voted for Kamala so their daughters can have abortions.

Talk about shitty parenting.  Abortion shouldn't be a plan.  It should be a last resort.  You don't build your whole life around abortions.

“I’m voting for a boy to raw dog my daughter, come inside her, and have no repercussions while my family deals with the emotional aftermath.”
Dad of the year!!!

[jonmx 2,429]

16 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

“I’m voting for a boy to raw dog my daughter, come inside her, and have no repercussions while my family deals with the emotional aftermath.”
Dad of the year!!!

Not quite, but a close second to the dad who celebrates his son being castrated and provides financial support for getting breast implants while keeping him/her supplied with tampons.  

[Fireballer 2,642]

The smartest thing said on TV last night…

https://x.com/casestudyqb/status/1854216569599021131?s=46&t=DFWeVowvyy-F23jlecK3zw

[Nomad99 742]

23 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

“I’m voting for a boy to raw dog my daughter, WHO ISN'T ON ANY FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL, come inside her BECAUSE HE ISN'T USING A CONTRACEPTIVE, and have no repercussions while my family THAT DID A POOR JOB OF RAISING HER, deals with the emotional aftermath OF OUR DAUGHTER'S RECKLESS DECISION. Dad of the year!!!

This looks more accurate 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

10 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The smartest thing said on TV last night…

https://x.com/casestudyqb/status/1854216569599021131?s=46&t=DFWeVowvyy-F23jlecK3zw

Look it's a weird world- MSNBC rightfully being critical of a campaign.....Daniel Jones won Angry Runs this week on GMFB.

 

Things are topsy turvy right now

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

The person who has to be feeling good right now is Joe Biden.

He got pushed aside in 2016 by the party and Obama to make way for Hillary and she lost.

In 2024 he got pushed aside by the party and Pelosi to make way for Harris and she lost.

Biden could walk into the DNC right now and say "Who has two thumbs and is the only person to beat Trump in an election?" and then yell "This guy " while pointing at himself.

Then probably do this:

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Jack Smith ends all cases against Trump. Good. Now he needs to be held accountable and possibly charged. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Benching Biden for Harris is like when Wade Philips benched Flutie for Rob Johnson the week of a playoff game.  Really, really stupid.  

[supermike80 1,911]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jack Smith ends all cases against Trump. Good. Now he needs to be held accountable and possibly charged. 

I'm seeing that on Twitter.   Is that true?

[Fnord 2,272]

22 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The person who has to be feeling good right now is Joe Biden.

He got pushed aside in 2016 by the party and Obama to make way for Hillary and she lost.

In 2024 he got pushed aside by the party and Pelosi to make way for Harris and she lost.

Biden could walk into the DNC right now and say "Who has two thumbs and is the only person to beat Trump in an election?" and then yell "This guy " while pointing at himself.

Then probably do this:

 

Who is Biden saying "you're cool" to?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Just now, supermike80 said:

I'm seeing that on Twitter.   Is that true?

Heard it on the radio. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

53 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Who is Biden saying "you're cool" to?

Hard to say who he sees in the room.

 

I'll guess AOC though- she was a main voice standing up for him. Wes Moore did too. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

59 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

I'm seeing that on Twitter.   Is that true?

He is.

Basically the DOJ has always argued that a sitting president can not be prosecuted. So they are following their own internal procedures. Basically they don't think a court case, nor it be settled through all appeal challenges by inauguration day. 

[Fnord 2,272]

20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

He is.

Basically the DOJ has always argued that a sitting president can not be prosecuted. So they are following their own internal procedures. Basically they don't think a court case, nor it be settled through all appeal challenges by inauguration day. 

Gross. Of all the misgivings I have about Trump, this is the biggest. Essentially declaring the POTUS to be above the law is the ultimate slippery slope, especially given who we just elected. I can't believe anyone would ever be in favor of a president being able to pardon themselves. So unAmerican.

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Gross. Of all the misgivings I have about Trump, this is the biggest. Essentially declaring the POTUS to be above the law is the ultimate slippery slope, especially given who we just elected. I can't believe anyone would ever be in favor of a president being able to pardon themselves. So unAmerican.

Unintended consequences.  The lawfare tactic caused the need to delineate, and now that delineation exists.

I get that you have this notion that Trump is some kind of criminal, I get it......and if you need to believe that I would not seek to dissuade you.  But I celebrate this protection, because it will impede the corruption of the legal system for political purposes, and I see this as a net good. 

[Horseman 2,458]

Delicious

Lefties are just miserable people. 

 

 

[Fnord 2,272]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Unintended consequences.  The lawfare tactic caused the need to delineate, and now that delineation exists.

I get that you have this notion that Trump is some kind of criminal, I get it......and if you need to believe that I would not seek to dissuade you.  But I celebrate this protection, because it will impede the corruption of the legal system for political purposes, and I see this as a net good. 

Sure, sure. Just another "problem" that never existed until turnip showed up. Get back to me in 3 years. Hopefully, I'm wrong. I've been saying that a lot lately.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Sure, sure. Just another "problem" that never existed until turnip showed up. Get back to me in 3 years. Hopefully, I'm wrong. I've been saying that a lot lately.

Turnip Joe. Awesome!  

[RLLD 4,230]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Sure, sure. Just another "problem" that never existed until turnip showed up. Get back to me in 3 years. Hopefully, I'm wrong. I've been saying that a lot lately.

When the Democrats stepped outside of moral behaviors, when they allowed themselves the latitude to abuse the impeachment process to abuse the legal system.......their malignment resulted in a commensurate response.

I say this, because this is not the first example of them doing this.....the abuse of systems will typically have a later consequence......no matter how good it feels today.

[Horseman 2,458]

Mr. Wonderful sums it up nicely.

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“The influences of a Schumer or a Pelosi or a movie star or an Obama deciding to anoint somebody—those guys are gone. In four years, they won't have that kind of influence. I care about policy. And when I hear policies coming out of a party that are so twisted against the American way of life, like basically taxing capital gains that are unrealized—that's not America. Or price controls—that's not America. It would be good for them to lose tonight. It would reset and reboot and get that party back to the center. It would be good for them. They may not want to hear that.

 

[nobody 2,673]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Benching Biden for Harris is like when Wade Philips benched Flutie for Rob Johnson the week of a playoff game.  Really, really stupid.  

Biden couldn't win.  

I suppose they could've kept lying about his mental health, but only people like the time and mooney and squistion would be gullible enough to believe that.

Where they messed up was not just admitting it sooner and having a real primary.

[Fnord 2,272]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

When the Democrats stepped outside of moral behaviors, when they allowed themselves the latitude to abuse the impeachment process to abuse the legal system.......their malignment resulted in a commensurate response.

I say this, because this is not the first example of them doing this.....the abuse of systems will typically have a later consequence......no matter how good it feels today.

We've had this discussion many times. You are not going to convince me that Trump's impeachments weren't warranted, or that the GOP wouldn't have impeached a Democratic POTUS for the exact same behavior (and probably for less, TBH.) Given your history here, I trust you to remain mostly intellectually honest, even though you never admit your partisanship. I see a bunch of other folks that I suspect will cheer on all sorts of abhorrent behavior from turnip, and turn into what they claim to hate. You are fooling yourselves thinking Donald Trump is not going to take full advantage abuse the hell out of the new and improved levers of power he has been gifted.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

We've had this discussion many times. You are not going to convince me that Trump's impeachments weren't warranted, or that the GOP wouldn't have impeached a Democratic POTUS for the exact same behavior (and probably for less, TBH.) Given your history here, I trust you to remain mostly intellectually honest, even though you never admit your partisanship. I see a bunch of other folks that I suspect will cheer on all sorts of abhorrent behavior from turnip, and turn into what they claim to hate. You are fooling yourselves thinking Donald Trump is not going to take full advantage abuse the hell out of the new and improved levers of power he has been gifted.

Of course if you feel it was all warranted then you have to stand by that.

But on the other side of this there are plenty who can look at it and see if for the abuse it was.   The important element here is that when a system is abused it can lead to unexpected and perhaps bad outcomes, and so here we are.

I fully expect Democrats to at least attempt to continue these abuses where possible, but I think Trump is more read for their underhanded behaviors this time.   It wont be so easy  to make sh!t up anymore.

[Fnord 2,272]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Of course if you feel it was all warranted then you have to stand by that.

But on the other side of this there are plenty who can look at it and see if for the abuse it was.   The important element here is that when a system is abused it can lead to unexpected and perhaps bad outcomes, and so here we are.

I fully expect Democrats to at least attempt to continue these abuses where possible, but I think Trump is more read for their underhanded behaviors this time.   It wont be so easy  to make sh!t up anymore.

Donald never seems to have a problem with doing it and inevitably getting a pass from his supporters.

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Of course if you feel it was all warranted then you have to stand by that.

But on the other side of this there are plenty who can look at it and see if for the abuse it was.   The important element here is that when a system is abused it can lead to unexpected and perhaps bad outcomes, and so here we are.

I fully expect Democrats to at least attempt to continue these abuses where possible, but I think Trump is more read for their underhanded behaviors this time.   It wont be so easy  to make sh!t up anymore.

Democrats can't do it without control of the House. 

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Donald never seems to have a problem with doing it and inevitably getting a pass from his supporters.

The pass to which you refer is the eventual dismissal of the lies by everyone.  From Russian Collusion hoax to very fine people hoax to bloodbath hoax to lawfare hoaxes.....eventually the truth is allowed to be known, the media ends the lying, though politicians continue it....

The problem being that the original lie has staying power.   People move forward with their perceptions permanently altered by that lie, even when the media et al later relents and speaks the truth.  This seems to be by design.

And then we end up with a swath of people so indoctrinated by the lies, they cannot accept the truth later....

[RLLD 4,230]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Democrats can't do it without control of the House. 

Impeachment maybe.  And I surmise that the lawfare is perhaps now off of the table.   But that likely means they simply get more extreme.....

I would not presume that they will continue with these repugnant behaviors....they are a "by any means necessary" kind of group....

[Fnord 2,272]

Just now, jonmx said:

Democrats can't do it without control of the House. 

And you seriously believe that Trump, with control of the House (if that happens), Senate, and SCOTUS, will not pursue retribution, will not attempt to consolidate power underneath himself, will obey the law consistently, will not attempt to act as a defacto dictator?

Again, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. But I have never seen anything that would lead me to believe that he will govern in a way that does not benefit himself, first and foremost. 

[Fnord 2,272]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The pass to which you refer is the eventual dismissal of the lies by everyone.  From Russian Collusion hoax to very fine people hoax to bloodbath hoax to lawfare hoaxes.....eventually the truth is allowed to be known, the media ends the lying, though politicians continue it....

The problem being that the original lie has staying power.   People move forward with their perceptions permanently altered by that lie, even when the media et al later relents and speaks the truth.  This seems to be by design.

And then we end up with a swath of people so indoctrinated by the lies, they cannot accept the truth later....

I'm talking about the tens of thousands of proven lies the man has told in public over the last decade. That he just gets a pass for.

[RLLD 4,230]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm talking about the tens of thousands of proven lies the man has told in public over the last decade. That he just gets a pass for.

Leave Biden out of this.......

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

10 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'm talking about the tens of thousands of proven lies the man has told in public over the last decade. That he just gets a pass for.

Yeah just him. Lying about banging a porn star and keep your doctor are not on the same level. You sound like one of these kids I’ve seen on social media emoting.  

[BirdGang 385]

24 minutes ago, Fnord said:

And you seriously believe that Trump, with control of the House (if that happens), Senate, and SCOTUS, will not pursue retribution, will not attempt to consolidate power underneath himself, will obey the law consistently, will not attempt to act as a defacto dictator?

Again, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. But I have never seen anything that would lead me to believe that he will govern in a way that does not benefit himself, first and foremost. 

After y’all’s unhinged behavior retribution is deserved. Take it like a big boy. Made your own bed. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Biden couldn't win.  

I suppose they could've kept lying about his mental health, but only people like the time and mooney and squistion would be gullible enough to believe that.

Where they messed up was not just admitting it sooner and having a real primary.

And they were well past that point. Should've just left him in. He wouldn't have done any worse