Helene Disaster Response: The Regime leaving Red States to die?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,114]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Liberal: "Thank you creepy joe, may I have another?" 

There is enough circumstantial evidence to have Joe thrown in prison if he were a common citizen on pedophilia alone.

Add in his racist history and declining mental health, it was blatantly obvious. Blatant. So here we are where people in NC are suffering horribly because our leadership is inept.

[seafoam1 2,799]

5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

There is enough circumstantial evidence to have Joe thrown in prison if he were a common citizen on pedophilia alone.

Add in his racist history and declining mental health, it was blatantly obvious. Blatant. So here we are where people in NC are suffering horribly because our leadership is inept.

It's disgusting beyond measure. Add in Afghanistan and the border and countless of other purposeful flubs and you basically get the biggest mass murderer assh0le in the world next to Hitler. Except I don't think Hitler was a pedo. So points to him over creepy joe on the human factor. 

[Jeff Probst 59]

56 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

What an embarrassment. I can't imagine what it's like in the white house. Well they don't care so I would imagine it's not much different.

We tried to warn liberals this is what you would get.

If trump was in the White house he would have used his sharpie to bring the storm out to sea?

[seafoam1 2,799]

21 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

If trump was in the White house he would have used his sharpie to bring the storm out to sea?

Poor pimpledoosh. What an idiot you are. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

On 9/30/2024 at 3:47 PM, Tree of Knowledge said:

Worth a read.  Seems like they have been abandoned.  
 

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/09/30/the-biden-harris-federal-response-to-helene-is-a-total-disaster-n4932946

You initial thought has proven to be % correct

[BudBro 173]

I understand there needs to be protocols regarding efforts to get food to people.  Yet, with them blocking shipments and blocking rescue efforts, is this provocation in the hopes of a violent reaction? 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

58 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

If trump was in the White house he would have used his sharpie to bring the storm out to sea?

 

 

[jerryskids 6,558]

Interesting article about what a shiot show this effort is, comparing it directly to Katrina.  The guy seems to know his stuff and has numbers to back up his assertions.

It's long so I won't post the entire thing.

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As a veteran of military logistics, I can tell you exactly why the Democrat administration’s response to Helene has been abysmal.

 

The devastation wrought across the American Southeast by Category 4 Hurricane Helene last week has naturally drawn comparisons to the 2005 Hurricane Katrina response. As a veteran of military logistics, I can confirm that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris’ response to this round of mass suffering has been orders of magnitude worse than federal actions taken after Katrina.

In August of 2005, I was a U.S. Army colonel serving on the Army staff in the Pentagon. Before Hurricane Katrina was even nearing landfall, I was detailed as a shift officer in the National Military Command Center (NMCC) for hurricane support operations. As a career logistics officer, this was the culmination of a noncombat mission I had been associated with since I was first commissioned: disaster relief and humanitarian support operations.

 

 

From the Yellowstone fires in 1988 while I was a mere first lieutenant, through Hurricane Fran while I was serving on Fort Bragg (now Fort Liberty) as a major in the 82nd Airborne Division, through the humanitarian missions the support battalion of the 82nd I commanded in Afghanistan accomplished, and through the many training events and “orders drills” I endured in this arena, this secondary mission of all logisticians was something that defined a substantial part of my military career. As such, I was privileged to be a part of the national support to Katrina.

Despite the misleading media reports of failure, as I served in the NMCC I was enthralled and impressed with the sheer power that was brought to bear by our military to support endangered Americans in Katrina. Nothing feels better than making a difference for your fellow Americans, and as such I (now a long-retired veteran) paid careful attention to Hurricane Helene, anticipating the same robust military and federal support. As you can imagine, I have been grossly disappointed with the delayed and inept nature of the federal response.

Why did this happen? Why did our military — the actual “muscle” of federal disaster response, as FEMA is a mere coordinating staff agency — sit largely on the sidelines for Helene? 

I want to know. I suppose you do too.

 

Katrina vs. Helene

Helene and Katrina are roughly comparable disasters even though Katrina hit the urban setting of New Orleans (population: ~ 455,000), whereas Helene was across a region with only one major population center (Asheville, population ~94,000). In Katrina, 2 million people lost enduring power; in Helene, that number was closer to 1.5 million. Yes, New Orleans is on the ocean, and the worst impact of Helene was largely concentrated in mountain hollows, but I would argue that this makes support to Helene victims harder than support after Katrina.

Much has been made in the media that on Oct. 2, about a week after Helene made landfall, President Joe Biden authorized 1,000 soldiers of the 82nd Airborne Division to support Helene relief operations, but let’s contrast that with Katrina support, shall we?

First, let’s be clear: In both disasters, state National Guard units performed valiantly under the command and control of their state governors. However, the problems with National Guard units in a given state are twofold. First, state National Guard units often lack the full spectrum of combat, combat support, and combat service support units found in the active component on bases so very close to the Helene disaster like Fort Campbell in Kentucky, Fort Liberty and Camp LeJeune in North Carolina, and Fort Stewart in Georgia. Second, state National Guard units often have their armories and the homes of their members right in the path of the disaster, making it hard to provide fulsome support.

As such, deploying active military units — especially in a region with such robust active military capabilities as America’s Southeast — is essential to disaster relief operations.

 

Let’s compare Katrina with Helene. In Katrina, a three-star general was placed in command, along with the two-star commanding general of the 82nd Airborne Division, with a full Airborne Infantry Brigade task force of the 82nd, a corps-support logistics command of thousands of soldiers, a signal battalion, a combat support hospital, robust Army engineer assets, and countless other support units. All of these units were on standby orders days before Katrina hit.

In contrast, a week after Helene hit, a tiny 1,000-troop Airborne Infantry Battalion task force of the 82nd (one-third the size of a brigade) was given a warning order under the ground command of a mere one-star general. These forces are without the medical, engineer, corps-level logistics, signal/communications, and Division/Army HQ command and control capabilities that defined Katrina support.

How about the Marines? In Katrina, they sent 2,600 Marines, under the command of a two-star Marine Division commanding general. For Helene, near as I can tell after extensive web research and quizzing my followers on X, the USMC has not been tasked to send a single damned Marine.

The Navy is probably not a fair comparison since New Orleans is an ocean port and the mountains of North Carolina are not, but after Katrina, the Navy sent a carrier task force and a hospital ship, along with 63 aircraft. For Helene, the Navy has sent 10 helicopters.

Coast Guard? Yes, they are a blue-water force, but they have riverine capabilities that would make a huge difference in the hills of North Carolina. In 2005, they sent 43 aircraft that conducted search and rescue operations almost immediately after Katrina made landfall. In Helene, the Coast Guard disestablished its area command, but it did find time to help a handful a people and rescue five pets.

The Air Force’s airlift capabilities are largely strategic, but in Katrina, they were busy evacuating thousands of injured and displaced people. After Helene, it seems they are mostly busy repairing their own airfields and not much else. This is curious, seeing as their C-130s could be working closely with the parachute riggers on Fort Liberty to prepare essential supplies for airdrop. Guess not.

The folks trapped in the hollows of North Carolina’s mountains need helicopter support most of all, to receive essential food, water, and construction and medical supplies, and to evacuate the stranded, the elderly, the sick, and the injured. If you review the links I included above, you’ll see that hundreds of active-duty helicopters were involved in Katrina. As for Helene, if you look at the DOD’s press releases, it looks like 28 active-duty helicopters are thinking about maybe getting involved as of Sept. 30. 

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/04/comparing-helene-to-katrina-suggests-americans-are-left-to-die-because-democrats-run-the-white-house/

He goes on to speculate as to why it may be so bad.

I don't know how much of all of this is true, but if this continues, it could be the thing that pushes this election to Trump.

[Strike 5,185]

Mayorkas three months ago vs. now:

This administration is a focking joke. 

[Horseman 2,353]

LOL at the libs in here.  Complete failure of a response to the worst hurricane since Katrina and all they can say is But Trump!!!

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

LOL at the libs in here.  Complete failure of a response to the worst hurricane since Katrina and all they can say is But Trump!!!

All because he's mean! 

Imagine voting for this Dunce ONLY because he says mean things. 

Democrats would rather live like Animals 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,310]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Interesting article about what a shiot show this effort is, comparing it directly to Katrina.  The guy seems to know his stuff and has numbers to back up his assertions.

It's long so I won't post the entire thing.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/10/04/comparing-helene-to-katrina-suggests-americans-are-left-to-die-because-democrats-run-the-white-house/

He goes on to speculate as to why it may be so bad.

I don't know how much of all of this is true, but if this continues, it could be the thing that pushes this election to Trump.

 Thanks Jerry. Good post. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

Notice who's not on this thread? Pedocrats 

 

[Horseman 2,353]

 

 

[Horseman 2,353]

 

 

[Horseman 2,353]

And then.........wait for it................

[Horseman 2,353]

They take credit for the ones other people delivered.

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,687]

On 9/30/2024 at 3:37 PM, MDC said:

Ever notice how the Geeks who are most distrustful of the MSM are also the easiest marks for Fake Newz? 

Do you Remember these MSM gems that the Libs fell for? Some Libs still believe they are true.

Trump colluded with Russia to win in 2016 and might be a Russian agent. That scam involved crooked FBI agents and led to the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller, who took two years to conclude there was no evidence to back the charge. 

 

the "Muslim ban" that wasn’t?
 

the mantra that the 2017 tax cuts were only for the "rich" despite studies showing 80% of the population benefitted? 

How about the "kids in cages" firestorm, complete with gripping photographs of migrant children in metal containers? The hottest story going, with Democrats such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., rushing to the border with photogenic outrage. They vanished when it was revealed the Obama-Biden administration built the cages and the heart-wrenching photos were from 2014. 

 

 The Ukraine impeachment of Trump, a creative fiction based on a complaint from an anonymous member of the swamp who never testified. But others did to say the president, in trying to get information on Biden family corruption in Ukraine, was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.

 

CNN has reached a settlement agreement with Nick Sandmann, the Covington Catholic High School student who was wrongly portrayed in the media as having racially harassed toward a Native American man on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in 2019.

etc., etc 

[Horseman 2,353]

 

 

[seafoam1 2,799]

20 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Notice who's not on this thread? Pedocrats 

 

Q: What do you call a liberal who lies all the time and denies reality?

A: A liberal.

[Horseman 2,353]

BOOM

 

 

[Horseman 2,353]

 

 

[seafoam1 2,799]

where's creepy joe?.

Nevermind...

[BunnysBastatrds 2,310]

 For those that ask why we rebuild after these disasters, it’s because of pride in our communities and not letting them die. Mother Nature is not discriminating against anywhere in the world. And neither should we be. She may win some battles, but not the war. That’s what we fight for what we believe in.

[IndyColtsFan 325]

Horseface claims Democrats used hurricane machine to whip up Helene.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/marjorie-taylor-greenes-hurricane-helene-conspiracy-they-can-control-the-weather

[IndyColtsFan 325]

Well, well, well ... It looks like Clownzo robbed FEMA to address migrants.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/04/no-biden-didnt-take-fema-relief-money-use-migrants-trump-did/

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It turns out that’s because he did this. In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who had been forced to wait in Mexico. “The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border,” the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds.

Cue the MAGAturd "muh WoPo ."

[Horseman 2,353]

10 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said:

Well, well, well ... It looks like Clownzo robbed FEMA to address migrants.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/04/no-biden-didnt-take-fema-relief-money-use-migrants-trump-did/

Cue the MAGAturd "muh WoPo ."

Trump did something (true or not) in 2019 and that's your excuse for this clusterfock over 5 years later, 4 years into Harris-Biden term?    

muh critical thinking

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

3 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

If trump was in the White house he would have used his sharpie to bring the storm out to sea?

Whataboutadoosh

[Baker Boy 1,687]

32 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 For those that ask why we rebuild after these disasters, it’s because of pride in our communities and not letting them die. Mother Nature is not discriminating against anywhere in the world. And neither should we be. She may win some battles, but not the war. That’s what we fight for what we believe in.

Mother nature will win the war, she will be here long after the last human dies.

[seafoam1 2,799]

3 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

If trump was in the White house he would have used his sharpie to bring the storm out to sea?

Way better than what creepy joe and the kameltoe just did. Prove me otherwise. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,310]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Mother nature will win the war, she will be here long after the last human dies.

 Probably most definitely, but quitting is not an option today. 

[nobody 2,557]

Why do I keep seeing stories that folks trying to help victims of this storm aren't being allowed to do so?

[Strike 5,185]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

Why do I keep seeing stories that folks trying to help victims of this storm aren't being allowed to do so?

Because it's true.  Even people working with Elon Musk are having trouble trying to aid people.

[nobody 2,557]

This shìt is a travesty

[Strike 5,185]

You  guys have it all wrong.  Our government is right there, helping the people who most need it:

[Hardcore troubadour 14,922]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

You  guys have it all wrong.  Our government is right there, helping the people who most need it:

Truly hate these people and those that support them. 

[TimHauck 2,603]

7 hours ago, nobody said:

Why do I keep seeing stories that folks trying to help victims of this storm aren't being allowed to do so?

Most of it is vague claims without specifics or video.  The only legitimate one I’ve seen is the decision that came from an assistant fire chief of a town, not the federal government.

I am starting to see the claims that the government is planning to steal the land.  Kinda like in Maui which never happened.

[Jeff Probst 59]

7 hours ago, nobody said:

Why do I keep seeing stories that folks trying to help victims of this storm aren't being allowed to do so?

Bots on social media are pushing these fake stories to create unrest, anger and division towards the govt.

Tldr you're just a puppet.

[TimHauck 2,603]

3.1 million views, and you know most of the sheep believe this nonsense

 

 

[Jeff Probst 59]

Elon musk pushing these this sh1t too only to be fact checked by buttigieg.  It's nuts man.  This segment of society will literally believe anything they are told.