I’m willing to question the media now.

[The Real timschochet 6,444]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

@warclandestine

There are two scenarios:

A) Donald Trump is actually Hitler, and the Dems/MSM are now agreeing to a peaceful transfer of power to a fascist genocidal dictator.

The Dems/MSM were lying.

We all know which one it is.

There should be a punishment for deception on this scale.

There wasn’t any deception in the example you’re offering. What they did is repeat things that Trump had said and then offer the opinion that he is a fascist (nobody ever said “genocidal”, no idea where that came from). I disagree with that opinion but given some of Trump’s comments it’s not an unreasonable opinion to offer. 

[Horseman 2,369]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There wasn’t any deception in the example you’re offering. What they did is repeat things that Trump had said and then offer the opinion that he is a fascist (nobody ever said “genocidal”, no idea where that came from). I disagree with that opinion but given some of Trump’s comments it’s not an unreasonable opinion to offer. 

Says he'll take his lumps and then not post for months. 

Says he's starting not to trust the media and then defends them at every turn. 

Pathological. Stop posting, seek help. 

Genocidal comes from the far left of your party in their outrage over Gaza. MSDNC runs that tripe. Get a foking clue.  

[Frozenbeernuts 2,115]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There wasn’t any deception in the example you’re offering. What they did is repeat things that Trump had said and then offer the opinion that he is a fascist (nobody ever said “genocidal”, no idea where that came from). I disagree with that opinion but given some of Trump’s comments it’s not an unreasonable opinion to offer. 

X is where the idea that Trump would win all swing states was floated. The media said it was impossible. Yet here we are, he wins them all. The media hasn't mentioned that he has won AZ but I'm pretty sure its official at this point.

RFK has already come out with aggressive redeem of the FDA and our food. No president or his team ever makes a drastic move like this. This one isn't even debatable because we know how poor the food is. This is a great thing, but the media never focused on this.

Flynn went on Alex Jones and talked about how aggressively the administration will root out human trafficking. Again, the media never covered this. It was all covered on X. No one who was paying attention was surprised, and I doubt anyone who watched mainstream media even knows about these aggressive moves being made that should have bipartisan support.

[TimHauck 2,624]

8 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

X is where the idea that Trump would win all swing states was floated. The media said it was impossible. Yet here we are, he wins them all. The media hasn't mentioned that he has won AZ but I'm pretty sure its official at this point.

RFK has already come out with aggressive redeem of the FDA and our food. No president or his team ever makes a drastic move like this. This one isn't even debatable because we know how poor the food is. This is a great thing, but the media never focused on this.

Flynn went on Alex Jones and talked about how aggressively the administration will root out human trafficking. Again, the media never covered this. It was all covered on X. No one who was paying attention was surprised, and I doubt anyone who watched mainstream media even knows about these aggressive moves being made that should have bipartisan support.

Looks likely, but even Fox News has not called AZ or NV yet. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,115]

If you want an accurate source of what's going on, head to X. Yeah there is a lot of disinformation, but there is also a lot of accurate things the media will never mention. You learn to sift through things. It's better than the media twisting or out right lying on every single story they present

[Frozenbeernuts 2,115]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Looks likely, but even Fox News has not called AZ or NV yet. 

Fox News is part of the corporate media. Rupert Murdoch owns it. I don't trust them either. It's not like they are the one media outlet who we can trust. Yeah they were more accurate when it came to Trump, but that's more out of necessity than desire.

[Mike Hunt 261]

19 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

All right. A whole lot you here on the right have been telling liberals like myself that the mainstream media is full of sh!t for years, deliberately lying to me and everyone. I’ve never bought into it. Call me obtuse, naive, a moron, whatever. I’m not sure I’m buying into it even now (still skeptical about the “deliberate” part.) But yeah they really blew it. Again. And I’m open to the discussion. Gonna be a long time before I trust the news again. 
 

 

You always said Biden is fine.  The media said Biden was fine even though time after time his gaffes and blunders were on the world stage. No dementia or mental decline. Squstion always said "those were edited" to make Biden look bad.

 

We ran the best campaign we could, considering Joe Biden was president,” grumbled one Harris aide granted anonymity to speak freely. “Joe Biden is the singular reason Kamala Harris and Democrats lost tonight.”

[RLLD 4,143]

20 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

You always said Biden is fine.  The media said Biden was fine even though time after time his gaffes and blunders were on the world stage. No dementia or mental decline. Squstion always said "those were edited" to make Biden look bad.

 

We ran the best campaign we could, considering Joe Biden was president,” grumbled one Harris aide granted anonymity to speak freely. “Joe Biden is the singular reason Kamala Harris and Democrats lost tonight.”

I remember how hard people fought back against the truth, for months......and now all the sudden.....want to blame the guy they stupidly protected......

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

It isn't Biden's fault they lost. It's singularly the fault of them running a bad campaign in just about every single way

[Horseman 2,369]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Looks likely, but even Fox News has not called AZ or NV yet. 

[blick 33]

3 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Fox News is part of the corporate media. Rupert Murdoch owns it. I don't trust them either. It's not like they are the one media outlet who we can trust. Yeah they were more accurate when it came to Trump, but that's more out of necessity than desire.

Yep.  All the same.  Just different agendas and die hard sheepeople followers.  

[listen2me 23 1,827]

12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It isn't Biden's fault they lost. It's singularly the fault of them running a bad campaign in just about every single way

The reason why they lost is because enough normal people have finally become sick of the woke agenda.  Normals dont care about woke.  Some submit if they are afraid to be called racist or other things.  But normals dont care about woke and generally think it has gotten ridiculous.  Some of the normals went out and voted for Trump.  Some are over it and stayed out of the election and didnt vote.  

Thats why the Dems got trounced.  Its clear as day.  People are over woke and the asinine things they push.  

I agree her campaign sucked.  That was part as well.  But she wasnt going to overcome her parties wokeness with a better campaign.   

That and young males of all colors turned up for Trump.  Hmmm lets think here....maybe just maybe when dweebs like Gutter throw around "toxic masculinity" at every turn.  Perhaps when the left basically says men suck.  Quit being so manly.   Ummmm yea there will be push back from you know....men...

[RLLD 4,143]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It isn't Biden's fault they lost. It's singularly the fault of them running a bad campaign in just about every single way

I agree to an extent.   I suggest that Biden does not see himself as we do, he does not actually understand his decline.  His choices were based on his perception of self, which was likely much higher than reality. I bet even today, he thinks himself to be alert and sharp and highly capable......  so faulting him is misplaced.....I think we agree on this.

Where I take issue was the way that so many devoutly defended him.  THEY are the ones that did not allow for Harris to have more time to develop her campaign.

[HellToupee 1,594]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Where I take issue was the way that so many devoutly defended him

They defended him even after the debate for a day or two. Once the decision was made the switch was flipped and everyone fell in line. Before that they gaslighted criticism about his decline for years

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

They defended him even after the debate for a day or two. Once the decision was made the switch was flipped and everyone fell in line. Before that they gaslighted criticism about his decline for years

 

These people.....who did this......that they can today point their little rat paws at Biden and accuse HIM........takes a lot of focking gall........   these people are just contemptible.

[jbycho 599]

28 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It isn't Biden's fault they lost. It's singularly the fault of them running a bad campaign in just about every single way

It is Biden's fault. What made him think he could initially run for another term? He has to have known he was trying to run on his ego alone. 

Running Harris may not have been his terrible mistake, but they are a collective group and he is the actual president who should have brought that candidate decision up 6 months earlier. What ever he has left in his head he had to know Harris was a garbage candidate to pass the torch to. 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

13 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

That and young males of all colors turned up for Trump.  Hmmm lets think here....maybe just maybe when dweebs like Gutter throw around "toxic masculinity" at every turn.  Perhaps when the left basically says men suck.  Quit being so manly.   Ummmm yea there will be push back from you know....men...

I'll acquiesce to some of this...but I'll add I think it is okay to say things to young men about the way they act and approach women. I'm around high school kids all day long and there are some dudes who just- clearly have respect issues towards women. However, you can't just go completely over the top in castigating them and calling them names and trying to talk to a 18 year old kid about "Do you know what your white male privilege gives you?" First, they don't. Second, they don't care because at 18 most people are not introspective about their position in life and how it affects others. 

But I think that part of going all the way speaks to how politics operate anymore. People from both sides immediately jump to label people because they aren't in lock step with them and it just turns people off in every way. It bit the Democrats in the azz this election cycle. It could easily bite the Republicans in another. The real measure is what does a party learn from it all. 

13 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I agree to an extent.   I suggest that Biden does not see himself as we do, he does not actually understand his decline.  His choices were based on his perception of self, which was likely much higher than reality. I bet even today, he thinks himself to be alert and sharp and highly capable......  so faulting him is misplaced.....I think we agree on this.

Where I take issue was the way that so many devoutly defended him.  THEY are the ones that did not allow for Harris to have more time to develop her campaign.

The one thing you can hit Biden over is he talked in 2020 about being a bridge President and then decided to run again so he caught people flat footed in the party I believe. Then he hung on for a long time. Perhaps that is because his perception of himself does not meet the reality. Maybe he did just have a really bad night at that debate and nothing more than that. Maybe he is completely out to lunch mentally at this point.

But as I said yesterday- Hillary's campaign in 2016 treated Trump like a joke and they lost. Biden in 2020 did not treat Trump like a joke. He went after him. He challenged him in the debates. He hammered him over the response to COVID. He hammered him over his relations to other countries. He respected what Trump had done in office and turned it against him. Kamala's team came in and decided to try and treat Trump as a joke again. 

I just think in a pie chart of "what caused Kamala to lose" Biden as an answer has a piece of that pie. But it is nowhere near as big as the rest of the pieces and I think it is solely being looked at so the Kamala campaign can absolve themselves of a bad plan. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'll acquiesce to some of this...but I'll add I think it is okay to say things to young men about the way they act and approach women. I'm around high school kids all day long and there are some dudes who just- clearly have respect issues towards women. However, you can't just go completely over the top in castigating them and calling them names and trying to talk to a 18 year old kid about "Do you know what your white male privilege gives you?" First, they don't. Second, they don't care because at 18 most people are not introspective about their position in life and how it affects others. 

But I think that part of going all the way speaks to how politics operate anymore. People from both sides immediately jump to label people because they aren't in lock step with them and it just turns people off in every way. It bit the Democrats in the azz this election cycle. It could easily bite the Republicans in another. The real measure is what does a party learn from it all. 

The one thing you can hit Biden over is he talked in 2020 about being a bridge President and then decided to run again so he caught people flat footed in the party I believe. Then he hung on for a long time. Perhaps that is because his perception of himself does not meet the reality. Maybe he did just have a really bad night at that debate and nothing more than that. Maybe he is completely out to lunch mentally at this point.

But as I said yesterday- Hillary's campaign in 2016 treated Trump like a joke and they lost. Biden in 2020 did not treat Trump like a joke. He went after him. He challenged him in the debates. He hammered him over the response to COVID. He hammered him over his relations to other countries. He respected what Trump had done in office and turned it against him. Kamala's team came in and decided to try and treat Trump as a joke again. 

I just think in a pie chart of "what caused Kamala to lose" Biden as an answer has a piece of that pie. But it is nowhere near as big as the rest of the pieces and I think it is solely being looked at so the Kamala campaign can absolve themselves of a bad plan. 

I would never believe a politician when they say they will or will not do anything......they are all professional liars, so I am not really going to hit Biden for not keeping his word, that is what I expect from a politician....

MY issue is with anyone who today wants to point at Biden as the reason or the cause or whatever....but either was silent or protected him when his decline was being called out by honest people.......    

[The Real timschochet 6,444]

There appear to be lots of reasons why the Democrats lost. I’m sure Biden’s hubris had something to do with it. So did some contempt for woke. I disagree that it was bad campaign strategy because I’m not sure what more Harris could have done in 107 days, or how much differently she could have or should have run her campaign. I also think that her being a woman is still a limiting factor for many voters. 
 

But none of these are, IMO, the main reason that Trump won. That reason appears to be pretty simple: exit polling reports that 77% of voters are very unhappy with the state of our economy. I believe that is more perception than reality but it doesn’t matter. When that happens the incumbent political party loses. Always. 

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I would never believe a politician when they say they will or will not do anything......they are all professional liars, so I am not really going to hit Biden for not keeping his word, that is what I expect from a politician....

MY issue is with anyone who today wants to point at Biden as the reason or the cause or whatever....but either was silent or protected him when his decline was being called out by honest people.......    

My thing would be this- pointing the finger at Biden is silly too because- I don't think he wins either. I'm not sold any Democrat wins necessarily. There are some signs that maybe they would have- I mean in Michigan and Wisconsin they elected Democrat senators despite going GOP for President. Nevada and Arizona seem like maybe they elected Democrat senators. Pennsylvania is leaning GOP right now so in the 7 battleground states, you had 5 senator races and 4 of them potentially went Democrat. That speaks to a divide at the top of the ticket.

But again- if I'm Biden I'm annoyed. He got pushed aside in 2016. He got pushed aside in 2024. He will be the only Democrat candidate who can say he beat Trump in a Presidential election and it was fairly handily from a popular vote and electoral vote perspective. And he is going to have to deal with the person he instilled as his vice president having her team point fingers at him. 

[TimHauck 2,624]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There appear to be lots of reasons why the Democrats lost. I’m sure Biden’s hubris had something to do with it. So did some contempt for woke. I disagree that it was bad campaign strategy because I’m not sure what more Harris could have done in 107 days, or how much differently she could have or should have run her campaign. I also think that her being a woman is still a limiting factor for many voters. 
 

But none of these are, IMO, the main reason that Trump won. That reason appears to be pretty simple: exit polling reports that 77% of voters are very unhappy with the state of our economy. I believe that is more perception than reality but it doesn’t matter. When that happens the incumbent political party loses. Always. 

She should have went on Rogan

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

My thing would be this- pointing the finger at Biden is silly too because- I don't think he wins either. I'm not sold any Democrat wins necessarily. There are some signs that maybe they would have- I mean in Michigan and Wisconsin they elected Democrat senators despite going GOP for President. Nevada and Arizona seem like maybe they elected Democrat senators. Pennsylvania is leaning GOP right now so in the 7 battleground states, you had 5 senator races and 4 of them potentially went Democrat. That speaks to a divide at the top of the ticket.

But again- if I'm Biden I'm annoyed. He got pushed aside in 2016. He got pushed aside in 2024. He will be the only Democrat candidate who can say he beat Trump in a Presidential election and it was fairly handily from a popular vote and electoral vote perspective. And he is going to have to deal with the person he instilled as his vice president having her team point fingers at him. 

I tend to agree with your positions outlined here....

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

how much differently she could have or should have run her campaign. I also think that her being a woman is still a limiting factor for many voters. 

I gave some thoughts on this before but I'll quickly recap:

1.) She should've taken the Joe Rogan podcast invite. There were almost no negatives to it. She either goes on and completely bombs out and loses no votes most likely, or she goes there- trades shots with Rogan and comes off looking tough and presidential. There was more upside than downside to doing it and they miscalculated.

2.) They narrowed the scope of what they were going for voter wise (this ties into 1 some). You need to throw the net wide and try to catch people. They decided their path to win was women and young people and then they zeroed in on essentially just women and started thinking "We've got these votes in hand." It is the same thing Hillary did in 2016 where she abandoned polling in the Rust Belt states thinking "I've got those" and started looking to a rout and it blew up in her face.

3.) They never established strongly enough the policies she wanted to implement and they relied on focus grouped catchphrases. "I want to create an Opportunity Economy." Okay but that means nothing. Just say "I want to cut taxes x%." Speak in simple, direct phrasing. That's why Clinton rolled in the 90's. That was an appeal of Obama. Yes Barack was an intelligent guy, but he knew how to speak in a way that cut right to what he wanted to do.

4.) They badly misread the emotions of the general populace. Every poll indicated this was about the economy. I pointed out here that this is despite a lot of markers being positive economically but still people's perceptions of the economy was not meeting reality because they were focusing on the singular tangible issue of a grocery bill. But the Kamala team message then was all about "Feel those vibes? Aren't you feeling joy? Let's party everyone" Then it became "Hey, don't put the potential dictator in charge." Then in the last week it went back too "Enough of that dictator stuff, back to the vibes." Look when people are pissed you can't stand there and try to tell them "We are having fun though right?" That just further pisses people off. 

5.) To the point about #4- the Kamala campaign central message changed 3 times in a 107 day campaign. So basically, once a month. You can't do that. 

[BrahmaBulls 628]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There appear to be lots of reasons why the Democrats lost. I’m sure Biden’s hubris had something to do with it. So did some contempt for woke. I disagree that it was bad campaign strategy because I’m not sure what more Harris could have done in 107 days, or how much differently she could have or should have run her campaign. I also think that her being a woman is still a limiting factor for many voters. 
 

But none of these are, IMO, the main reason that Trump won. That reason appears to be pretty simple: exit polling reports that 77% of voters are very unhappy with the state of our economy. I believe that is more perception than reality but it doesn’t matter. When that happens the incumbent political party loses. Always. 

She couldn't answer simple questions.  Why didn't you do this or that over the last 4 years?  Her answer was "Trump has been running for President for almost 4 years".  She's a dolt.  

[jbycho 599]

Anyone who in 2024 is older than the age of 18 (and especially when they are in their 50s) says they are only now "willing to question the media", has been brainwashed in some form or another. But, admitting it is step 1 I guess. Even if it's a cryptic way of doing so. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,711]

Once Biden decided to go for re-election it started a chain of events that led to a historic landslide for Trump.  

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I tend to agree with your positions outlined here....

I posted it yesterday but if I'm Biden I go into the DNC and re-enact the scene from half Baked where the guy quits the fast food place and tells everyone "Fuk You"

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

4 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

If you want an accurate source of what's going on, head to X. Yeah there is a lot of disinformation, but there is also a lot of accurate things the media will never mention. You learn to sift through things. It's better than the media twisting or out right lying on every single story they present

I agree but it takes a person that has some common sense and the ability to think for themselves.  Far too many people just grab on to the first stories that support their opinion and treat them as fact.  A lot of people are just plain gullible too.

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I agree but it takes a person that has some common sense and the ability to think for themselves.  Far too many people just grab on to the first stories that support their opinion and treat them as fact.  A lot of people are just plain gullible too.

You can say it....League Champion. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

37 minutes ago, jbycho said:

It is Biden's fault. What made him think he could initially run for another term? He has to have known he was trying to run on his ego alone. 

Running Harris may not have been his terrible mistake, but they are a collective group and he is the actual president who should have brought that candidate decision up 6 months earlier. What ever he has left in his head he had to know Harris was a garbage candidate to pass the torch to. 

 

We may be saying the same thing about Trump in 3-4 years.

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

21 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She should have went on Rogan

100% she should have

[RLLD 4,143]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I posted it yesterday but if I'm Biden I go into the DNC and re-enact the scene from half Baked where the guy quits the fast food place and tells everyone "Fuk You"

[purdygood 334]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Who does he say "but you're cool" to ? haha

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

3 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Who does he say "but you're cool" to ? haha

I figured maybe like AOC or Wes Moore who were two of the people still backing him

Maybe Tammy Duckworth

[Mark Davis 339]

Are we talking about the same media who covered up Joe Biden's decline in mental acuity over the past few years?  They speak in hyperbole constantly, they piece together snippets of what people say to make them sound more damning than they are and without any context, anyone who doesn't agree with their political view is evil, racist, xenophobic, homophobic.  And we are to be surprised they lied to their viewers?  Not only have they misled people, they are directly responsible for a lot of the mental issues people are having dealing with things like this.  I've got news for everyone, if you live a few years your side is going to lose an election.  If you mentally can't handle it and think the world is ending if your side loses, you should seek help.

 

[purdygood 334]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I figured maybe like AOC or Wes Moore who were two of the people still backing him

Maybe Tammy Duckworth

It would probably just be some security guard or staffer he has never met and he'd be like. "Do I know you? You're cool"

[peenie 1,905]

I haven't read the comments in this thread but just wanted to comment that I've always known the media was full of crap because of the way they portrayed minorities living in poverty, like we're all dumb lazy criminals. The truth has yet to be told. I know that the media made it seem like Hillary was definitely going to win, not based on opinions, but polls! And she didn't. I saw how the liberal media spent all their time focusing on Trump while he was president just whipping up controversy and not really ever focusing on what he was doing politically, just negative all the time, in order to keep viewers glued to the news. The same can be said about Fox News when Obama was in office. 
When I hear Putin speak, he's actually talking about real issues and when I hear our politicians speak, they talk to us like we're in kindergarten. We're really not being fed intellectually by our news. We're being entertained. 

[Sean Mooney 1,942]

19 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Are we talking about the same media who covered up Joe Biden's decline in mental acuity over the past few years?  They speak in hyperbole constantly, they piece together snippets of what people say to make them sound more damning than they are and without any context, anyone who doesn't agree with their political view is evil, racist, xenophobic, homophobic.  And we are to be surprised they lied to their viewers?  Not only have they misled people, they are directly responsible for a lot of the mental issues people are having dealing with things like this.  I've got news for everyone, if you live a few years your side is going to lose an election.  If you mentally can't handle it and think the world is ending if your side loses, you should seek help.

 

This is interesting to note because it seems to be pointed directly at legacy or older media. However, the most preferred places to get news by Gen X and younger is places like TikTok, and Twitter which are also places- especially the former- where stuff is presented as snippets of interviews edited in a way to make things sound worse than what they actually were. And there are two times as much "pro-Trump" content as their way "pro-Biden or pro-Harris" content there. Additionally, look at the amount of people here who share YouTube videos as fact when it is someone blowing up a singular quote to rant on it for 10-15 minutes.

The biggest issue we have from a news source is we have allowed- in all forms and walks of media- for the line between opinion and news to blur to an insane point. Look at any of the 24 hour news channels. They are dominated from about 3pm on by personality driven opinion shows. Social media allows us to curate our timelines in such a way that we only see things that support our already held positions. This is all a problem because the general public isn't reaching out to learn opposing viewpoints, they are allowing the opposing viewpoints to be brought to them with a spin applied to it. 

[HellToupee 1,594]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

There appear to be lots of reasons why the Democrats lost. I’m sure Biden’s hubris had something to do with it. So did some contempt for woke. I disagree that it was bad campaign strategy because I’m not sure what more Harris could have done in 107 days, or how much differently she could have or should have run her campaign. I also think that her being a woman is still a limiting factor for many voters. 
 

But none of these are, IMO, the main reason that Trump won. That reason appears to be pretty simple: exit polling reports that 77% of voters are very unhappy with the state of our economy. I believe that is more perception than reality but it doesn’t matter. When that happens the incumbent political party loses. Always. 

You do realize people are pissed about the bad hombres pouring over the border , getting $$$ and free housing and committing heinous crimes

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is interesting to note because it seems to be pointed directly at legacy or older media. However, the most preferred places to get news by Gen X and younger is places like TikTok, and Twitter which are also places- especially the former- where stuff is presented as snippets of interviews edited in a way to make things sound worse than what they actually were. And there are two times as much "pro-Trump" content as their way "pro-Biden or pro-Harris" content there. Additionally, look at the amount of people here who share YouTube videos as fact when it is someone blowing up a singular quote to rant on it for 10-15 minutes.

The biggest issue we have from a news source is we have allowed- in all forms and walks of media- for the line between opinion and news to blur to an insane point. Look at any of the 24 hour news channels. They are dominated from about 3pm on by personality driven opinion shows. Social media allows us to curate our timelines in such a way that we only see things that support our already held positions. This is all a problem because the general public isn't reaching out to learn opposing viewpoints, they are allowing the opposing viewpoints to be brought to them with a spin applied to it. 

y i

I think a further point worthy of inclusion is that many of the people you have correctly identified as opinionists.......refer to themselves, and consider themselves, ....  "journalists"   which they obviously are not.

And some actual journalists have allowed themselves to be a little corrupted by it.