So Babbit Was Murdered After All...

[Hardcore troubadour 16,247]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Anyone who thinks the ICE agent in Minneapolis was justified but Byrd wasn’t is not a serious person. 
 

Really? Did Babbitt display or use a weapon? 

[SaintsInDome2006 888]

13 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

“[An] officer may use deadly force only when the officer reasonably believes that action is in the defense of human life, including the officer’s own life, or in the defense of any person in immediate danger of serious physical injury,” USCP policy says.

“The actions of the officer in this case potentially saved Members and staff from serious injury and possible death from a large crowd of rioters who forced their way into the U.S. Capitol and to the House Chamber where Members and staff were steps away,” USCP determined, concluding that Byrd’s actions were justified.

 

[thegeneral 3,831]

12 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Anyone who thinks the ICE agent in Minneapolis was justified but Byrd wasn’t is not a serious person. 
 

It’s wild. Most are just staying quiet now

[MDC 8,269]

13 hours ago, MDC said:

Any clear front runner for the MAGA Award for Excellence in Delayed Self Ownage?  

I just skimmed every page. Max-O definitely takes the crown with HT and 5-points close behind. Jonmx probably has the most tears but he didn’t beclown himself enough in the Minneapolis thread.

Congratulations ladies!  

[thegeneral 3,831]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

I just skimmed every page. Max-O definitely takes the crown with HT and 5-points close behind. Jonmx probably has the most tears but he didn’t beclown himself enough in the Minneapolis thread.

Congratulations ladies!  

I would love to have Jon come back and flip his script 180 on so many topics, police shootings for one. Would be comedic gold. 

[thegeneral 3,831]

On 11/26/2024 at 7:17 AM, jonmx said:

Anyone who defended that shooting is a complete POS and any police officer who supported it should be fired.  Byrd should be serving 10 plus years in prison for murder.  

Can't wait for adults to be in charge again and justice is done and the corrupt and abusive bastards are thrown out of jobs.  

Lol

[jonmx 2,500]

On 1/9/2026 at 12:12 PM, thegeneral said:

I would love to have Jon come back and flip his script 180 on so many topics, police shootings for one. Would be comedic gold. 

I maintain the same standard for all police shootings.  Number 1 rule is anyone in immediate danger of being severely harmed or killed.  For Ashly Babbitt the answer is no.  For Good the answer is absolutly yes.  

Next questions from the idiots on the left who actually have absurd double-standards and are incapable of viewing any incident without the filter of their insane politics. 

[jonmx 2,500]

On 1/8/2026 at 10:06 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Really? Did Babbitt display or use a weapon? 

All the morons can do is put a laughing emoji because any response would expose how ignorant their opinion really is. 

[thegeneral 3,831]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

I maintain the same standard for all police shootings.  Number 1 rule is anyone in immediate danger of being severely harmed or killed.  For Ashly Babbitt the answer is no.  For Good the answer is absolutly yes.  

Next questions from the idiots on the left who actually have absurd double-standards and are incapable of viewing any incident without the filter of their insane politics. 

How about all the creeps the beat on the cops outside? According to you they all could have been shot by the cops.

[Ron_Artest 2,772]

Just now, jonmx said:

I maintain the same standard for all police shootings.  Number 1 rule is anyone in immediate danger of being severely harmed or killed.  For Ashly Babbitt the answer is no.  For Good the answer is absolutly yes.  

Next questions from the idiots on the left who actually have absurd double-standards and are incapable of viewing any incident without the filter of their insane politics. 

You're comparing an officer protecting American lawmakers from an angry mob that has breached several layers of the capitol and just smashed through the last line of defense vs a Minnesota mom sitting in her car in her neighborhood.

seek help.

[Tree of Knowledge 2,307]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're comparing an officer protecting American lawmakers from an angry mob that has breached several layers of the capitol and just smashed through the last line of defense vs a Minnesota mom sitting in her car in her neighborhood.

seek help.

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[jonmx 2,500]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

How about all the creeps the beat on the cops outside? According to you they all could have been shot by the cops.

Depends if they were in real danger and they had other means of stopping them. 

[jonmx 2,500]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're comparing an officer protecting American lawmakers from an angry mob that has breached several layers of the capitol and just smashed through the last line of defense vs a Minnesota mom sitting in her car in her neighborhood.

seek help.

There was no angry mob.  There were only a handful of people standing behind Ashley Babbitt and several of them secret service agents.  Absolutely no one was in any danger in that instance.   There is no rule which allows for the use of deadly force at that point.

[thegeneral 3,831]

7 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Depends if they were in real danger and they had other means of stopping them. 

A mob of hundreds beating on people, trampling them, ignoring orders to leave couldn’t be perceived as real danger to you. 

This is such a bizarre take.

[TBayXXXVII 2,691]

Personally, I have no problems with either shooting... Babbit or Good.  FAFO  NEITHER, should've been doing what they were doing.  BOTH were actively trying to be a-holes.  BOTH presented a danger.  Stop getting in the way of law enforcement from doing their legal job.

Did either "deserve" to die?  No, but their deaths were the consequence of their wreckless actions and while it sucks, so be it.

[thegeneral 3,831]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Personally, I have no problems with either shooting... Babbit or Good.  FAFO  NEITHER, should've been doing what they were doing.  BOTH were actively trying to be a-holes.  BOTH presented a danger.  Stop getting in the way of law enforcement from doing their legal job.

Did either "deserve" to die?  No, but their deaths were the consequence of their wreckless actions and while it sucks, so be it.

This is reasonable. I would say the scenario in Jan 6th was much more dangerous, completely out of control, hundreds of times more dangerous, etc. It’s amazing more people weren’t shot,

Calling this cop on Jan 6th a murderer, while saying the Minn shooting was clean is the dumbest of dumb.

[jonmx 2,500]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

A mob of hundreds beating on people, trampling them, ignoring orders to leave couldn’t be perceived as real danger to you. 

This is such a bizarre take.

Gross distortion of the truth.  It took years to get passed the five minutes of video the media played non-stop to get the fuller picture of what went down.  Only a handful of people broke in.  The vast majority were let in and were peacefully walking through the building.  Very few suffered serious injuries.  It was all media manipulated bull crap.   The same media which told all the brain dead morons that BLM were peaceful protests but yet somehow there were billions and billions of damage done across the country.  Thousands of times more damage than done on J6.

[thegeneral 3,831]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Gross distortion of the truth.  It took years to get passed the five minutes of video the media played non-stop to get the fuller picture of what went down.  Only a handful of people broke in.  The vast majority were let in and were peacefully walking through the building.  Very few suffered serious injuries.  It was all media manipulated bull crap.   The same media which told all the brain dead morons that BLM were peaceful protests but yet somehow there were billions and billions of damage done across the country.  Thousands of times more damage than done on J6.

“The handful” could have been shot by your rationale. It’s cut and dry. Why do you go on with this? It’s so bizarre.

 

[FrancieFootball 381]

7 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

“The handful” could have been shot by your rationale. It’s cut and dry. Why do you go on with this? It’s so bizarre.

 

Handful? The hallways were packed with them. 

[thegeneral 3,831]

2 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Handful? The hallways were packed with them. 

Yep. There were hundreds of shitheads that day. 

[FrancieFootball 381]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Yep. There were hundreds of shitheads that day. 

Jan. 6 deniers are morons.

[seafoam1 3,593]

 

14 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

“The handful” could have been shot by your rationale. It’s cut and dry. Why do you go on with this? It’s so bizarre.

 

 

6 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Handful? The hallways were packed with them. 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/protestors-set-fire-to-minneapolis-police-precinct-as-trump-attacks-uprising-on-twitter

 

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[thegeneral 3,831]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

 

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/protestors-set-fire-to-minneapolis-police-precinct-as-trump-attacks-uprising-on-twitter

 

So skidmark, if there were cops beaten and trampled over at a barricaded Target what would you say if they shot someone?

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[TimHauck 3,521]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Personally, I have no problems with either shooting... Babbit or Good.  FAFO  NEITHER, should've been doing what they were doing.  BOTH were actively trying to be a-holes.  BOTH presented a danger.  Stop getting in the way of law enforcement from doing their legal job.

Did either "deserve" to die?  No, but their deaths were the consequence of their wreckless actions and while it sucks, so be it.

I don’t know if I’d use the word “no problem,” but this is the correct take in that both were probably legally justified 

[TBayXXXVII 2,691]

15 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t know if I’d use the word “no problem,” but this is the correct take in that both were probably legally justified 

That's what I meant by "no problem".

[Reality 3,178]

17 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Personally, I have no problems with either shooting... Babbit or Good.  FAFO  NEITHER, should've been doing what they were doing.  BOTH were actively trying to be a-holes.  BOTH presented a danger.  Stop getting in the way of law enforcement from doing their legal job.

Did either "deserve" to die?  No, but their deaths were the consequence of their wreckless actions and while it sucks, so be it.

Correct response.

[MDC 8,269]

Babbitt would have gotten a full pardon if she lived. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,247]

Babbitt would have been overcharged and over sentenced had she lived. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,691]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

Babbitt would have gotten a full pardon if she lived. 

 

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Babbitt would have been overcharged and over sentenced had she lived. 

Both are likely to be true.

[jonmx 2,500]

On 1/14/2026 at 5:29 PM, thegeneral said:

So skidmark, if there were cops beaten and trampled over at a barricaded Target what would you say if they shot someone?

No one was trampled that day.  The other person who died that day was beaten by the Capitol Police.  The so-called barricades were two freaking bike racks a 6-year old could have climbed over.   You continue to parrot lies of the media.  You are a brain dead moron incapable of thought 

[jonmx 2,500]

20 hours ago, Reality said:

Correct response.

Explain by what legal standard was Ashley Babbitt shot?   If there was a trail and the standards of applying lethal force were applied, the cop would be in prison. 

[Ron_Artest 2,772]

8 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No one was trampled that day.  The other person who died that day was beaten by the Capitol Police.  The so-called barricades were two freaking bike racks a 6-year old could have climbed over.   You continue to parrot lies of the media.  You are a brain dead moron incapable of thought 

 

 

[TimHauck 3,521]

20 hours ago, Reality said:

Correct response.

Wow you’re not being a partisan hack for once, congrats 

[TimHauck 3,521]

14 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Explain by what legal standard was Ashley Babbitt shot?   If there was a trail and the standards of applying lethal force were applied, the cop would be in prison. 

So homeowners can’t shoot people breaking into their house?