Strike 5,216 Posted February 24 On 2/21/2025 at 7:20 PM, The Real timschochet said: Second, I didnât create the theory that tariffs in the form of Smoot/Hawley led to World War II. This is not an âexcessiveâ theory to anyone who studies economics and history, itâs very well known and highly popular. Senator Charles Grassley, a Republican, is one of those who shares this view with me:  See, you're wasting valuable hard drive space typing this. The next time you CREATE a THEORY will be the first. You are the biggest regurgitator of OTHER people's theories/work/opinions I've ever known. it is a tip that thinking for yourself if a very liberating activity. You should try it sometime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,369 Posted February 24 On 2/21/2025 at 10:00 AM, TrailGuy said: It's not happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,369 Posted February 24 Get ready for hard times!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, Horseman said: Get ready for hard times!!!!!! I think this is probably good advice.  Trump seems determined to go through with his tariffs. The only reason the market didnât plunge further today is because nobody is sure that he means it. Unfortunately I think he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted February 25 I changed the title to reflect the new reality. Perhaps, hopefully, someone close to Trump will talk him out of this self-imposed catastrophe. If not we are in for a world of hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted February 25 36 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I changed the title to reflect the new reality. Perhaps, hopefully, someone close to Trump will talk him out of this self-imposed catastrophe. If not we are in for a world of hurt. Not "we". Speak for yourself why don't you? Tell us about how YOU are being hurt. YOU, can not speak for me. Because everything you have been saying does not reflect my reality. Sorry Timmy, but stop whining for those you know nothing about.  And you can change the title every freaking day to reflect all your fears on a day to day basis. They seem to change often. That's why you keep changing the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I changed the title to reflect the new reality. Perhaps, hopefully, someone close to Trump will talk him out of this self-imposed catastrophe. If not we are in for a world of hurt. bring it on!!! quit hiring illegals  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted February 25 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: Not "we". Speak for yourself why don't you? Tell us about how YOU are being hurt. YOU, can not speak for me. Because everything you have been saying does not reflect my reality. Sorry Timmy, but stop whining for those you know nothing about.  And you can change the title every freaking day to reflect all your fears on a day to day basis. They seem to change often. That's why you keep changing the title. I can speak for you. If the tariffs come, and if you live in this country, YOU will suffer along with the rest of us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted February 25 37 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: bring it on!!! quit hiring illegals  Never gonna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted February 25 3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I can speak for you. If the tariffs come, and if you live in this country, YOU will suffer along with the rest of us. Wrong again. Tell me what I have, what I own, and what my money is doing in detail and how is it affecting what I eat daily, what I do daily, and how in general I live my life daily and what I will do different because of all my future liberal pretend suffering.. Because if you say any of that will change, you will be wrong. I'm on top of the world and feeling great. But please, do share the details of my situation in life. Open my financial books to the world on this site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyFife 28 Posted February 25 Those crazy tariffs are making liberalâs heads explode. Apple to invest $500 billion over the next four years and create 20,000 jobs. WINNING! https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/apple-will-spend-more-than-500-billion-usd-in-the-us-over-the-next-four-years/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted February 25 9 hours ago, TrailGuy said:    You do realize that is actually where that myth gained popularity. Smoot-Hawley played zero role in causing the great depression. The whole theory foundation is based on an adolescent comedy not on reality. From 1880s to 1930s we had numerous tarriffs which were much larger and more widespread than what Smoot-Hawley imposed. It was a minor tweak to policies the US had in place for decades. But bootlickers will believe any nonsense their deep state overlords feed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,712 Posted February 25 12 hours ago, Horseman said: Get ready for hard times!!!!!! Alex - What were the last words Adam Schiff said to the boy in the hotel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,369 Posted February 25 Plunge further!!!  What is Bogleheads??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,446 Posted February 25 7 hours ago, jonmx said:  You do realize that is actually where that myth gained popularity. Smoot-Hawley played zero role in causing the great depression. The whole theory foundation is based on an adolescent comedy not on reality. From 1880s to 1930s we had numerous tarriffs which were much larger and more widespread than what Smoot-Hawley imposed. It was a minor tweak to policies the US had in place for decades. But bootlickers will believe any nonsense their deep state overlords feed them. Everything you wrote here is a lie. 100% of it. Congrats! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 26 The Trump Dow is now negative on his term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 26 3 hours ago, TrailGuy said: The Trump Dow is now negative on his term. Our Cities are burning  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted February 26 4 hours ago, TrailGuy said: The Trump Dow is now negative on his term. How is it overall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 26 16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is it overall? Since 1896? Probably up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,953 Posted February 26 15 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Since 1896? Probably up. So tell us where itâs headed. Bet you donât. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 26 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So tell us where itâs headed. Bet you donât. Economists think we're headed for a recession. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted February 26 Surely everyone realizes all these takes are already known and baked in to the market. If someone wants to make some trades on this and post scans of their trade confirmations that takes some balls, but otherwise I suspect everyone here is rocking on as we always have been and it's just political posturing to support our political views. I've said it before, if someone is just sure in their mind we are headed for a cliff, that's a hard way to sleep at night and should adjust their position now. I wouldn't advise it, but people do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 27 I took a very large position in 3x short Dow. You don't layoff thousands of employees and cut off billions in funding without going into recession. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted February 27 49 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: I took a very large position in 3x short Dow. You don't layoff thousands of employees and cut off billions in funding without going into recession. Why are all Liberals gay, trans or non-binary? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, League Champion said: Why are all Liberals gay, trans or non-binary? Â Ask your wife how gay I am boyo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 327 Posted February 27 21 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Ask your wife how gay I am boyo. I'm sure someone's wife wants to see a poop bag hanging off your ass while you hand out 1/2 carrot jewelry.  2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 321 Posted February 27 Trump tariffs, cuts fooking up economy. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/business/trump-tariffs-spending-cuts-economy.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 261 Posted February 27 17 hours ago, Mark Davis said: Surely everyone realizes all these takes are already known and baked in to the market. If someone wants to make some trades on this and post scans of their trade confirmations that takes some balls, but otherwise I suspect everyone here is rocking on as we always have been and it's just political posturing to support our political views. I've said it before, if someone is just sure in their mind we are headed for a cliff, that's a hard way to sleep at night and should adjust their position now. I wouldn't advise it, but people do it. It is amusing. When market goes up the opposition of the POTUS says it has nothing to do with the president. When market goes down it is all the presidents fault. That is both sides. Like how Tim changed the title from crashing to teetering!!  2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Tebok said: Trump tariffs, cuts fooking up economy. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/business/trump-tariffs-spending-cuts-economy.html Imagine taking financial advice from pimpledoosh the cat lady here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted February 27 16 hours ago, TrailGuy said: I took a very large position in 3x short Dow. You don't layoff thousands of employees and cut off billions in funding without going into recession. Holy crap you are an emotional idiot 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted February 27 WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer confidence deteriorated at its sharpest pace in 3-1/2 years in February while 12-month inflation expectations surged, offering further signs that Americans were growing anxious about the potential negative economic impact of the policies of President Donald Trump's administration. It's not happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 605 Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) - U.S. consumer confidence deteriorated at its sharpest pace in 3-1/2 years in February while 12-month inflation expectations surged, offering further signs that Americans were growing anxious about the potential negative economic impact of the policies of President Donald Trump's administration. It's not happening Awesome. Where else does it hurt you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 339 Posted February 27 17 hours ago, TrailGuy said: I took a very large position in 3x short Dow. You don't layoff thousands of employees and cut off billions in funding without going into recession. You do realize that the time value decay of those type funds means even if you go a week at Dow flat or even slightly negative, you're going to be way behind? Those are geared for intraday and 2-3 day trades mostly. In short, whether bull or bear, they won't deliver 3x results short or long over time, but much less. The costs of the daily resets are quite high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,847 Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: You do realize that the time value decay of those type funds means even if you go a week at Dow flat or even slightly negative, you're going to be way behind? Those are geared for intraday and 2-3 day trades mostly. In short, whether bull or bear, they won't deliver 3x results short or long over time, but much less. The costs of the daily resets are quite high. I have no idea what you just said here, but my impression is you just curb-stomped fake WFH CFO on finances and numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,847 Posted February 27 On 2/24/2025 at 11:31 PM, The Real timschochet said: I can speak for you. If the tariffs come, and if you live in this country, YOU will suffer along with the rest of us. Like a tariff on auto imports for a foreign car I'm NOT buying or have no interest in buying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 605 Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Like a tariff on auto imports for a foreign car I'm NOT buying or have no interest in buying? No. If Tim says you are suffering, YOU ARE SUFFERING!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,369 Posted February 27 19 hours ago, TrailGuy said: Economists think we're headed for a recession. I agree. Fun Fact: Most organizations require a CFO have a MBA. You didn't even get enough credits for a CPA.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 605 Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Fun Fact: Most organizations require a CFO have a MBA. You didn't even get enough credits for a CPA.  Are you trying to say that the C- he got in the remedial reading class he took at community college doesn't qualify him as a CFO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
