Gepetto 1,288 Posted March 3 4 hours ago, MDC said: I do. But the deal Trump is offering is Ukraine loses territory, signs over natural resources, and gets berated on the world stage. I expect Ukraine gets the same deal from China without having to deal with a preening old woman. So we contribute multi-billions of our money and you want China to get Ukraine's minerals, instead of the U.S. because Trump hurt you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,120 Posted March 3 16 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This part of the world has changed hands many times. Crimea is a good example back in 2014 (Obama Presidency). Small portions of land changing hands over time in Eastern Europe after the old Soviet Union broke up in the early 90's. This is a whole other continent from the United States. Sure the USA has a geo-political interest in any conflict around the world but some of y'all are getting played. I STAND WITH UKRAINE! is just dumb. You stand with the next <insert big thing against Trump>. That's it. frankly, grow the fock up. ETA: Zero US Troops should be on the ground fighting in this. All monies should be allocated and tracked and a peace deal to end this war should be the number one goal. Full stop. I’ve been saying since this conflict started that it’s not our fight, jackass. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,120 Posted March 3 11 minutes ago, Gepetto said: So we contribute multi-billions of our money and you want China to get Ukraine's minerals, instead of the U.S. because Trump hurt you? I don’t “want” anything to happen. I’m saying the deal Trunp is offering is terrible from Ukraine’s perspective and they’d be better off appealing to Europe or China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 580 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, MDC said: I don’t “want” anything to happen. I’m saying the deal Trunp is offering is terrible from Ukraine’s perspective and they’d be better off appealing to Europe or China. Too bad. They got a lot from the US, and want to not give back. So fock.them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,915 Posted March 3 4 hours ago, MDC said: I do. But the deal Trump is offering is Ukraine loses territory, signs over natural resources, and gets berated on the world stage. I expect Ukraine gets the same deal from China without having to deal with a preening old woman. How does Ukraine lose territory it doesn’t have anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, MDC said: I’ve been saying since this conflict started that it’s not our fight, jackass. HTH This is good news. Wait....so why are you upset then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,120 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This is good news. Wait....so why are you upset then? I’m getting harangued by MAGAs who are mad that I think Ukraine should look elsewhere for help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted March 3 https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1896257717783937343?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ Keir Starmer announces Britain is ready to send boots on the ground and planes in the air to Ukraine, says Europe must step up these idiots want to start WW3. The Uk isn’t our ally 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,040 Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1896257717783937343?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ Keir Starmer announces Britain is ready to send boots on the ground and planes in the air to Ukraine, says Europe must step up these idiots want to start WW3. The Uk isn’t our ally It was the Russians that started it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 580 Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: It was the Russians that started it Aww.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 298 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: It was the Russians that started it This is the weirdest part of the MAGAshit mindset. Russia has been oppressive, dictatorial asshats for decades, and now the MAGAshits want to slob the Putin pecker because their beloved cult leader tells them to, never mind the worldwide implications and making this country part of what Bush called the Axis of Evi. Trump's America. Woo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,040 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Tebok said: This is the weirdest part of the MAGAshit mindset. Russia has been oppressive, dictatorial asshats for decades, and now the MAGAshits want to slob the Putin pecker because their beloved cult leader tells them to, never mind the worldwide implications and making this country part of what Bush called the Axis of Evi. Trump's America. Woo! They will repeat anything he says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 580 Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Tebok said: Trump's America. Winning!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 298 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Russia didn't interfere when the United States went to war in Iraq. Fock Ukraine. What you don't know is the actual discovery of the weapons of mass destruction that Iraq had pointed at our country. You won't read or hear about it on MSM. Deep State has kept a lid on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 3 40 minutes ago, HellToupee said: https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1896257717783937343?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ Keir Starmer announces Britain is ready to send boots on the ground and planes in the air to Ukraine, says Europe must step up these idiots want to start WW3. The Uk isn’t our ally Unfortunately, they aren't. Along with the rest of Europe. If anyone's watching, you're slowly watching democracy die in those countries as they're taking away freedom after freedom from the people. They're going to be no different than China, North Korea or Cuba in a decade or two. We're already seeing reports of people being jailed for simply posting on social media. It's insane. America will be the last bastion of light and freedom in the world because everyone is slowly moving hard left. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 3 14 hours ago, jonmx said: It is really getting to be pathetic. You can't even engage that level of stupidity. What ever propaganda the mainstream media puts out, they swallow it like Linda Lovelace on an evening in Dallas. They sure do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,583 Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: It was the Russians that started it The beginning of this started in 2014 , see Victoria Nuland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,288 Posted March 3 58 minutes ago, HellToupee said: The beginning of this started in 2014 , see Victoria Nuland And Joe Biden as VP chimed in because they needed his voice/words to change the regime in Ukraine because of his VP position. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,184 Posted March 3 3 hours ago, HellToupee said: https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1896257717783937343?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ Keir Starmer announces Britain is ready to send boots on the ground and planes in the air to Ukraine, says Europe must step up these idiots want to start WW3. The Uk isn’t our ally Uh, you left out the best part. Their "plan" is contingent on being backed by the U.S. - basically, they want us to jump in if their efforts fail. Fock that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Uh, you left out the best part. Their "plan" is contingent on being backed by the U.S. - basically, they want us to jump in if their efforts fail. Fock that. The whole world are idiots except half this country and China (unfortunately). When will being a liberal go out of style on the world stage? Because, that is sorely needed for humanity to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,639 Posted March 3 https://x.com/defiyantlyfree/status/1896201823834493344?s=46&t=DFWeVowvyy-F23jlecK3zw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted March 3 10 hours ago, HellToupee said: The beginning of this started in 2014 , see Victoria Nuland The US, UK, and Russia got Ukraine to give up their nukes in the 90’s and promised their defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 3 37 minutes ago, Fireballer said: https://x.com/defiyantlyfree/status/1896201823834493344?s=46&t=DFWeVowvyy-F23jlecK3zw BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE! And all the hysterical liberal teenage girls in here will ignore this and still be, well, hysterical over Trump's meeting. OMG! TRUMP! FASCISM! WW3!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted March 3 40 minutes ago, Fireballer said: https://x.com/defiyantlyfree/status/1896201823834493344?s=46&t=DFWeVowvyy-F23jlecK3zw You posted a clip talking about it on NBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE! And all the hysterical liberal teenage girls in here will ignore this and still be, well, hysterical over Trump's meeting. OMG! TRUMP! FASCISM! WW3!!! It was in private, behind closed doors. This was a public embarrassment. Huge difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,739 Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: was in private, behind closed doors What happened to being transparent?? That's why Trump is amazing!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,889 Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What happened to being transparent?? That's why Trump is amazing!!! Here’s an idea…if a President has a world leader come to the Oval Office where they are to make a deal of this order, they invite reporters to watch, then proceed to throw a tantrum and toss the person out. It will get coverage! Crazy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 3 52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It was in private, behind closed doors. This was a public embarrassment. Huge difference. All the better it was public. You don't want people to know how stupid Ukraine's president is? And why throwing money at him is one of the dumbest things a country can do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,697 Posted March 3 Just now, seafoam1 said: All the better it was public. You don't want people to know how stupid Ukraine's president is? And why throwing money at him is one of the dumbest things a country can do? Come on man. Zelenskyy needs his booger sugar money. Don’t make the man wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted March 3 I’m not going to argue this point with ten year olds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,799 Posted March 3 20 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Come on man. Zelenskyy needs his booger sugar money. Don’t make the man wait. That dude should take his money and run. He is a disaster dictator. Imagine if Trump eliminated elections so he could stay in power. Gee, I wonder how the liberals would handle that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted March 3 27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not going to argue this point with ten year olds. I agree. When you get to 13 let me know and we can have a proper conversation. It sucks having to deal with hysterical preteen girls like yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,040 Posted March 3 Boom goes the dynamite? Good Lord. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 3 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not going to argue this point with ten year olds. It is probably too much to expect a serious discussion in a thread with the title calling Zelensky an "ungrateful femboy" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,040 Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, squistion said: It is probably too much to expect a serious discussion in a thread with the title calling Zelensky an "ungrateful femboy" And that Trump and Vance "own" him. We're not exactly dealing with mature adults here. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 580 Posted March 3 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m not going to argue this point with ten year olds. 13 minutes ago, squistion said: It is probably too much to expect a serious discussion in a thread with the title calling Zelensky an "ungrateful femboy" 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: And that Trump and Vance "own" him. We're not exactly dealing with mature adults here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,402 Posted March 3 The Republican narrative has been set and I’ve heard it all yesterday and this morning: This is all Zelensky’s fault. He FAFO. Trump and Vance are blameless, only looking after America’s best interests and looking for peace. Zelensky is looking to prolong the war to stay in power, we need to cut him off or he needs to resign. Or he needs to apologize, grovel, and agree to whatever Trump proposes. if a small number of conservatives don’t believe this garbage at the moment,, they almost all will by the end of the week. This alternative reality is what the rest of us is dealing with. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,353 Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is all Zelensky’s fault. He FAFO. Trump and Vance are blameless, only looking after America’s best interests and looking for peace. Zelensky is looking to prolong the war to stay in power, we need to cut him off or he needs to resign. Or he needs to apologize, grovel, and agree to whatever Trump proposes. Preach brother. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,944 Posted March 3 24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The Republican narrative has been set and I’ve heard it all yesterday and this morning: This is all Zelensky’s fault. He FAFO. Trump and Vance are blameless, only looking after America’s best interests and looking for peace. Zelensky is looking to prolong the war to stay in power, we need to cut him off or he needs to resign. Or he needs to apologize, grovel, and agree to whatever Trump proposes. See Marco Rubio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
