Federal Judge blocks Trump military ban on transgenders

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10 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Not sure if this was sarcasm, but it’s absolutely correct. That was the biggest (only) draw for them to join the military and mooch. 

No sarcasm. 

Some people join for college tuition and/or cheaper home loans.

Others joined for free sex changes. Those people won't be signing up anymore and our military will be better off because of it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,034]

Also the US military spent less on transgender surgeries in 10 years than it cost Donald Trump to go golfing in February.  So shut up about the cost 

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23 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Also the US military spent less on transgender surgeries in 10 years 

Link? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,910]

39 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

That’s why you didn’t join. Scared 

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42 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,910]

45 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

Tech Sgt in the lollipop brigade. 

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21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tech Sgt in the lollipop brigade. 

PFC in the 5th Keyboard Division. 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

16 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why would you want transgender people in our military?  Why would you want any unhealthy people in our military?

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

14 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Are there really that many transgender individuals who want to be in the military? 

 

 

 

.2-.5% of the military are transgender at this point. So like 6600 people tops. 

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3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

I couldn't join if I wanted to, as my throat requires too much daily care to be fit for combat, much like a person who has physically transitioned.  I doubt an activist judge will make the government admit me though, because that wouldn't gain SJW points at her next party.   

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

I've wondered about this as well.  I think the military's position is that everyone should be prepared to go to the front lines.  That's why those linguistics people have fitness requirements.  You never know when we'll encounter a Red Dawn or Independence Day scenario.   

A linguistics person, I could very much see being deployed in the field to help with translations, codes, whatever they do.  A drone pilot may sit safely on a Navy cruiser, but what happens if that cruiser is attacked?  I was thinking maybe a member of a military band or choir, but such groups may be in, say, the Middle East entertaining the troops when the SHTF unexpectedly, and they find themselves under siege.

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

They join to get the benefits. And they know that they'll never see combat because Any Doctor would deem them mentally unfit for combat. 

THAT'S WHY!!!!! 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I've wondered about this as well.  I think the military's position is that everyone should be prepared to go to the front lines.  That's why those linguistics people have fitness requirements.  You never know when we'll encounter a Red Dawn or Independence Day scenario.   

A linguistics person, I could very much see being deployed in the field to help with translations, codes, whatever they do.  A drone pilot may sit safely on a Navy cruiser, but what happens if that cruiser is attacked?  I was thinking maybe a member of a military band or choir, but such groups may be in, say, the Middle East entertaining the troops when the SHTF unexpectedly, and they find themselves under siege.

I believe the military very greatly tries to keep distinctions between combat and non combat positions. And if any of those scenarios arise I think we can easily find a nearby high school or drunk Randy Quaid to recruit from. 

In a non-combat you still have to get through boot camp and you have to maintain some form of physical fitness and do some weapons training. But I don't think you continually train on it if you are going into something considered non-combat. 

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

Everyone but Hunter Biden has to go through boot camp or OCS.  You don’t know what you’re talking about. 

[TheNewGirl 1,340]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

You still have to show that you are physical fit to go to the front lines, defend your country and support your company. You can't just walk into a recruitment office and be like, "I want to join, but I don't want to go into combat or anything TOO dangerous." 

You have to pass the health tests regardless. 

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

You still have to show that you are physical fit to go to the front lines, defend your country and support your company. You can't just walk into a recruitment office and be like, "I want to join, but I don't want to go into combat or anything TOO dangerous." 

You have to pass the health tests regardless. 

I did say in the post just above this that you still need to go through boot camp and basic training and everything so it's not like physical requirements are completely done away with. 

[jonmx 2,424]

On 3/18/2025 at 11:05 PM, The Real timschochet said:

You’re correct that all Trump decisions wk be appealed. But what’s your take on this issue? Do transgenders have a Constitutional right to serve in the military? And if not, would YOU ban them? 

There is no Constitutional rights to serve in the military.  I really could not careless if they can serve or not, but the military should not be required to accommodate them for their perversions.   No paying for surgeries.  No special uniform requirements.  No special facilities.   It is the military, they conform to the standards expected of everyone.  

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5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

[iam90sbaby 2,472]

People with mental disorders shouldn’t be allowed in the military, plain and simple.

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6 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Yeah because real alphas want dudes pretending to be women in the military