Federal Judge blocks Trump military ban on transgenders

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10 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Not sure if this was sarcasm, but it’s absolutely correct. That was the biggest (only) draw for them to join the military and mooch. 

No sarcasm. 

Some people join for college tuition and/or cheaper home loans.

Others joined for free sex changes. Those people won't be signing up anymore and our military will be better off because of it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

Also the US military spent less on transgender surgeries in 10 years than it cost Donald Trump to go golfing in February.  So shut up about the cost 

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23 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Also the US military spent less on transgender surgeries in 10 years 

Link? 

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39 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

That’s why you didn’t join. Scared 

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42 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

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45 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

Tech Sgt in the lollipop brigade. 

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21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tech Sgt in the lollipop brigade. 

PFC in the 5th Keyboard Division. 

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16 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why would you want transgender people in our military?  Why would you want any unhealthy people in our military?

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

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14 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Are there really that many transgender individuals who want to be in the military? 

 

 

 

.2-.5% of the military are transgender at this point. So like 6600 people tops. 

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3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

I couldn't join if I wanted to, as my throat requires too much daily care to be fit for combat, much like a person who has physically transitioned.  I doubt an activist judge will make the government admit me though, because that wouldn't gain SJW points at her next party.   

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

I've wondered about this as well.  I think the military's position is that everyone should be prepared to go to the front lines.  That's why those linguistics people have fitness requirements.  You never know when we'll encounter a Red Dawn or Independence Day scenario.   

A linguistics person, I could very much see being deployed in the field to help with translations, codes, whatever they do.  A drone pilot may sit safely on a Navy cruiser, but what happens if that cruiser is attacked?  I was thinking maybe a member of a military band or choir, but such groups may be in, say, the Middle East entertaining the troops when the SHTF unexpectedly, and they find themselves under siege.

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They join to get the benefits. And they know that they'll never see combat because Any Doctor would deem them mentally unfit for combat. 

THAT'S WHY!!!!! 

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I've wondered about this as well.  I think the military's position is that everyone should be prepared to go to the front lines.  That's why those linguistics people have fitness requirements.  You never know when we'll encounter a Red Dawn or Independence Day scenario.   

A linguistics person, I could very much see being deployed in the field to help with translations, codes, whatever they do.  A drone pilot may sit safely on a Navy cruiser, but what happens if that cruiser is attacked?  I was thinking maybe a member of a military band or choir, but such groups may be in, say, the Middle East entertaining the troops when the SHTF unexpectedly, and they find themselves under siege.

I believe the military very greatly tries to keep distinctions between combat and non combat positions. And if any of those scenarios arise I think we can easily find a nearby high school or drunk Randy Quaid to recruit from. 

In a non-combat you still have to get through boot camp and you have to maintain some form of physical fitness and do some weapons training. But I don't think you continually train on it if you are going into something considered non-combat. 

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

Everyone but Hunter Biden has to go through boot camp or OCS.  You don’t know what you’re talking about. 

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm not saying you are doing this but I think we need to make an important distinction between some things here- because people can enlist in the military in non-combat positions. If some SHIM with blue hair wants to enlist in the military to be in linguistics who could possibly care that much? It's an important position and it's non-combat. 

You still have to show that you are physical fit to go to the front lines, defend your country and support your company. You can't just walk into a recruitment office and be like, "I want to join, but I don't want to go into combat or anything TOO dangerous." 

You have to pass the health tests regardless. 

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Just now, TheNewGirl said:

You still have to show that you are physical fit to go to the front lines, defend your country and support your company. You can't just walk into a recruitment office and be like, "I want to join, but I don't want to go into combat or anything TOO dangerous." 

You have to pass the health tests regardless. 

I did say in the post just above this that you still need to go through boot camp and basic training and everything so it's not like physical requirements are completely done away with. 

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On 3/18/2025 at 11:05 PM, The Real timschochet said:

You’re correct that all Trump decisions wk be appealed. But what’s your take on this issue? Do transgenders have a Constitutional right to serve in the military? And if not, would YOU ban them? 

There is no Constitutional rights to serve in the military.  I really could not careless if they can serve or not, but the military should not be required to accommodate them for their perversions.   No paying for surgeries.  No special uniform requirements.  No special facilities.   It is the military, they conform to the standards expected of everyone.  

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5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Ohhh, this is great  

Since you brought it up, what branch, rank and unit? And when did you serve? 

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People with mental disorders shouldn’t be allowed in the military, plain and simple.

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6 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

So many alphas too scared to join the military want to tell the transgenders that they're not fit to join 

Yeah because real alphas want dudes pretending to be women in the military 

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US Supreme Court lets Trump's transgender military ban take effect

 

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By Andrew Chung

May 6, 202511:55 AM MSTUpdated 23 min ago

 

• Summary

• Trump order could oust thousands of transgender troops
• Military guidance bars people with gender dysphoria
• Federal judge blocked Trump's ban as unconstitutional

May 6 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday permitted Donald Trump's administration to implement his ban on transgender personnel in the military, one of a series of directives by the Republican president to curb transgender rights.

 

In a decision that could trigger the discharge of thousands of current personnel, the court granted the Justice Department's request to lift a federal judge's nationwide order blocking the military from carrying out Trump's prohibition on transgender servicemembers while a legal challenge to the policy plays out.

 

The court's brief order was unsigned, as is typical in emergency matters that come before it. The court has a 6-3 conservative majority. Its three liberal justices - Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson - publicly dissented from the decision.

 

Seattle-based U.S. District Judge Benjamin Settle found that Trump's order likely violates the U.S. Constitution's Fifth Amendment right to equal protection under the law. The Supreme Court did not rule on the legal merits of the case. The litigation will continue in lower courts and could return to the justices in the future.

 

Trump signed an executive order, opens new tab in January after returning to the presidency that reversed a policy implemented under his Democratic predecessor Joe Biden that had allowed transgender troops to serve openly in the American armed forces. Biden said at the time that "America is safer when everyone qualified to serve can do so openly and with pride."

 

 

 

Full article:  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-lets-trumps-transgender-military-ban-take-effect-2025-05-06/

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On 3/18/2025 at 10:51 PM, The Real timschochet said:

https://nypost.com/2025/03/18/us-news/fed-judge-blocks-trump-admin-from-banning-trans-people-from-military-service/
 

Look I started a tranny thread! 
 

The judge says that transgender adults have a constitutional right to be in the military. I agree. But if you don’t, please make a case as to why it’s OK to ban transgender adults from serving. 

Awesome, now you can go serve in the military. Cool. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

Bad decision by the SC to let this stand even for now. Nobody has made a good argument as to why a transgender adult can not serve honorably in the U.S. military. This is based, IMO, on fear and bigotry. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bad decision by the SC to let this stand even for now. Nobody has made a good argument as to why a transgender adult can not serve honorably in the U.S. military. This is based, IMO, on fear and bigotry. 

Coming from a guy who fear mongers on the internet day and night and is the most bigoted person I've ever seen. 

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25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Biden said at the time that "America is safer when everyone qualified to serve can do so openly and with pride."

Yep.

If someone is willing to lay down their life for our country I say welcome aboard.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yep.

If someone is willing to lay down their life for our country I say welcome aboard.

Looks like you're an old brain dead liberal too. You and Biden have a lot in common it seems. How many times a day do you fall down? 

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3 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Looks like you're an old brain dead liberal too. You and Biden have a lot in common it seems. How many times a day do you fall down? 

Eh not really. Constitutionally I probably agree with the majority but it’s foolish from a security perspective. In 2000 when running for the Reform Party nomination Donald Trump supported gays in the military. I notice no one in maga crows about that issue anymore.

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TRANNIES  

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22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bad decision by the SC to let this stand even for now. Nobody has made a good argument as to why a transgender adult can not serve honorably in the U.S. military. This is based, IMO, on fear and bigotry. 

jesus christ dude, if you are a tranny you need daily meds, much like a person with asthma.  That has been stated at least 4-5 times, yet here you are saying nobody has made a good argument

another argument that is made is that being a tranny is a mental disorder, you wouldn't allow someone with bilemia or bipolar serve either

but there is nothing, not a single good argument, not one at all

 

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21 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yep.

If someone is willing to lay down their life for our country I say welcome aboard.

What if they are overdue for an estrogen injection and just cannot bring themselves to get on the chopper and head out into combat?

 

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31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bad decision by the SC to let this stand even for now. Nobody has made a good argument as to why a transgender adult can not serve honorably in the U.S. military. This is based, IMO, on fear and bigotry. 

Because they are MENTALLY ILL. 

What is it with you and your love of Trannies? 

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22 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh not really. Constitutionally I probably agree with the majority but it’s foolish from a security perspective. In 2000 when running for the Reform Party nomination Donald Trump supported gays in the military. I notice no one in maga crows about that issue anymore.

Obama was against gay marriage before he was for it.  People "evolve."

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Because they are MENTALLY ILL. 

What is it with you and your love of Trannies? 

Pedos are usually for trannies too.

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33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Bad decision by the SC to let this stand even for now. Nobody has made a good argument as to why a transgender adult can not serve honorably in the U.S. military. This is based, IMO, on fear and bigotry. 

The Executive Order makes the argument rather eloquently.  

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Consistent with the military mission and longstanding DoD policy, expressing a false “gender identity” divergent from an individual’s sex cannot satisfy the rigorous standards necessary for military service.  Beyond the hormonal and surgical medical interventions involved, adoption of a gender identity inconsistent with an individual’s sex conflicts with a soldier’s commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle, even in one’s personal life.  A man’s assertion that he is a woman, and his requirement that others honor this falsehood, is not consistent with the humility and selflessness required of a service member. 

For the sake of our Nation and the patriotic Americans who volunteer to serve it, military service must be reserved for those mentally and physically fit for duty.  

 

 

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9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

What if they are overdue for an estrogen injection and just cannot bring themselves to get on the chopper and head out into combat?

You kid but I’s all silly at this point. Gays are already allowed & the USSC already ruled on that. Trying to make distinctions just lands pretty much like this kind of ridiculousness.

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4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

The Executive Order makes the argument rather eloquently.  

 

That is extremely well stated actually.  

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5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Obama was against gay marriage before he was for it.  People "evolve."

Exactly. Just a matter of time. And if a trans cop saved a family member of anyone they’d just say thanks. 

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Exactly. Just a matter of time. And if a trans cop saved a family member of anyone they’d just say thanks. 

Well, according to the LA fire chief, people want someone rescuing them that looks like them.   So maybe your liberal side doesn't actually agree with this?

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37 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yep.

If someone is willing to lay down their life for our country I say welcome aboard.

I agree with both you, and oddly, Biden.  I just think we differ on the definition of what a "qualified" person is.

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4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Exactly. Just a matter of time. And if a trans cop saved a family member of anyone they’d just say thanks. 

If a serial killer saved my life, I would say thank you.  Doesn't mean I'd nominate him for police chief.