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President Trump said “contracts” are being negotiated to divide up land as part of a final deal ending Russia’s war in Ukraine and reiterated that a ceasefire could come “pretty soon.” 

“They are fighting against each other,” Trump told reporters Friday in the White House. “I think we’re going to have ceasefire on a lot of areas and so far, that’s all held very well.”  

“In getting that ceasefire, they had a lot of guns pointing at each other. You had some soldiers unfortunately surrounded by other soldiers,” the president said. “They are going to be — I believe we’re going to pretty soon have a full ceasefire, and then we’re going to have a contract, and the contract’s being negotiated, the contract in terms of dividing up the lands, etc., etc. It’s being negotiated as we speak.” 

Russia controls nearly 20 percent of Ukraine’s land. 

The Trump administration has pushed to secure a partial ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine that would involve energy facilities and infrastructure. Russian President Vladimir Putin offered his support for the limited ceasefire involving energy facilities but rejected the U.S.-proposed 30-day ceasefire that Kyiv endorsed earlier this month

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So a good portion of land that was previously part of Russia, where the people who lived there share a religion with Russians, whose ancestors came from Russian and the people all speak Russian as their native tongue will end up in Russia?

Oh the horror!

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“In getting that ceasefire, they had a lot of guns pointing at each other. You had some soldiers unfortunately surrounded by other soldiers,” the president said. “They are going to be — I believe we’re going to pretty soon have a full ceasefire, and then we’re going to have a contract, and the contract’s being negotiated, the contract in terms of dividing up the lands, etc., etc. It’s being negotiated as we speak.” 

What the hell is this nonsense?

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5 minutes ago, Tebok said:

What the hell is this nonsense?

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It's call WINNING retard 🏆 

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7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's call WINNING retard 🏆 

Trump winning at retardation with that unintelligible gibberish? Mission accomplished!

We're a ways past Day 1, by the way. 

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8 hours ago, Tebok said:

What the hell is this nonsense?

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It's called winning.

Of course you wouldn't know how to understand that pimpledoosh. :banana:

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11 hours ago, Tebok said:

We're a ways past Day 1, by the way. 

Call me when Biden cures cancer 😂 

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Only a TDS retard could be against ending a war where over a million people were killed and cities destroyed.   I rate TDSers as worse than the KKK.  

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12 hours ago, Tebok said:

What the hell is this nonsense?

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It reminded me of Kamala’s big country/smaller country quote.

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5 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Call me when Biden cures cancer 😂 

Kind of hard to do now that Trump has blocked research funding.

Besides, the whole Biden curing cancer thing is fake news that MAGA mooks propagate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/joe-biden-did-not-say-his-administration-cured-cancer-idUSL1N39D27V/

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In a speech on July 25, U.S. President Joe Biden said that if he could do anything, he would cure cancer. Social media users, however, shared a clip of Biden mid-statement, alongside false claims that Biden said he had already found a cure for the disease.

Facts beat memes, podcasts and right-wing misinformation every time, peaches.

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1 minute ago, Tebok said:

Kind of hard to do now that Trump has blocked research funding.

Besides, the whole Biden curing cancer thing is fake news that MAGA mooks propagate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/joe-biden-did-not-say-his-administration-cured-cancer-idUSL1N39D27V/

Facts beat memes, podcasts and right-wing misinformation every time, peaches.

Why is more funding needed? Your master Biden said he cured it Rusty. 

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Good one of the major problems with Ukraine other than the 2014 coup and allowing NATO encroachment was Crimea and Domboss voting to leave and join Russia/independance only to have Ukraine attack them.

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5 hours ago, jonmx said:

Only a TDS retard could be against ending a war where over a million people were killed and cities destroyed.   I rate TDSers as worse than the KKK.  

jonmx in 1943:  "Let Hitler keep the land he illegally took. Over a million people killed and cities destroyed. Anyone against ending the war is retarded."   :wacko:

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5 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

jonmx in 1943:  "Let Hitler keep the land he illegally took. Over a million people killed and cities destroyed. Anyone against ending the war is retarded."   :wacko:

And focking buffoons buy the crap that Putin is Hitler.   I am so sick of you idiot bootlickers who don't get that our post war foreign policy has sucked.   Our government has lied to us to continuously to entangle us into endless wars to feed the military industrial complex as well numerous other corporate interests. 

It is 100 percent fear-mongering lie that Putin has any interest into invading our European NATO allies.  Just as it was a lie about weapons of mass destruction.   Or the domino theory.  The lies exposed in the Pentagon Papers where our leaders intentionally lied to the public to prolong the Vietnam war.  Our government has assisted in the assassination of democratically-elected leaders in dozens of foreign countries.   The swamp in Washington DC is about as corrupt and evil as Putin.  Their puppet media has lied and covered up the swamp's role in provoking Putin into the invasion by pushing for the expansion of Ukraine into NATO.

The correct analogy is the Democratic Party and the establishmemt wing of the GOP has become a coalition embracing elitist authoritarianism in the form of a corporate-government fascist-like ruling class.  

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37 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

The correct analogy is the Democratic Party and the establishmemt wing of the GOP has become a coalition embracing elitist authoritarianism in the form of a corporate-government fascist-like ruling class.  

DOGE really going after those guys! Trump giving us a bill for a hundred billion for some planes he names after himself and bidding out a “golden” missile dome 😂

 

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1 hour ago, jonmx said:

And focking buffoons buy the crap that Putin is Hitler.

It is 100 percent fear-mongering lie that Putin has any interest into invading our European NATO allies.

Both are murderous dictators who invade sovereign nations. But you don't see a similarity?  Oh yeah "only focking buffoons" see that. 

Nobody knows if Putin will invade a NATO country or not, not even you smart guy.  But we should make sure he doesn't by helping Ukraine kick Russia's army back to the stone age.

"But the Pentagon Papers, assassination conspiracies, and other crap that has nothing to do with the discussion..."    :rolleyes:

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7 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

jonmx in 1943:  "Let Hitler keep the land he illegally took. Over a million people killed and cities destroyed. Anyone against ending the war is retarded."   :wacko:

You're right. This plan sucks. What's your plan?

9 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

 

Nobody knows if Putin will invade a NATO country or not ... but we should make sure he doesn't by helping Ukraine kick Russia's army back to the stone age.

 

Ideally, Ukraine kicks Russia out and regains all territorial integrity from before the war started. Unfortunately, the Ukraine counter-offensive to accomplish this stalled. After five +  three years of hoping for this outcome, it doesn't look like its going to happen and each side is pretty much dug in at this point.

....thus the plan that sucks looks less sucky. 

i think though if Putin can only accomplish carving off 20% of Ukraine before getting so bogged down, invading an actual NATO ally would be off the table.

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8 hours ago, jbycho said:

Why is more funding needed? Your master Biden said he cured it Rusty. 

It's not cured, so why not fund more research?

MAGAs are pro-cancer.

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5 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Both are murderous dictators who invade sovereign nations. But you don't see a similarity?  Oh yeah "only focking buffoons" see that. 

Nobody knows if Putin will invade a NATO country or not, not even you smart guy.  But we should make sure he doesn't by helping Ukraine kick Russia's army back to the stone age.

"But the Pentagon Papers, assassination conspiracies, and other crap that has nothing to do with the discussion..."    :rolleyes:

The map is littered with sovereign countries the US has invaded.   History is flooded with long lists of wars between nations.  But that does not make us or them Hitler.  Putin is a greedy egotistical bastard, but he is also rationale.   He hs zero interest in doing anything crazy.  The idea that he is Hitler is a truly retarded notion put out by the war-mongering swamp in DC who have robbed US taxpayers out of hundreds of billions of dollars.   That is what this war has always been about, greed and power in DC.

And you are a focking retard if you don't know history and how our CIA has taken out leaders around the world.  Those are known facts. 

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6 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Both are murderous dictators who invade sovereign nations. But you don't see a similarity?  Oh yeah "only focking buffoons" see that. 

Nobody knows if Putin will invade a NATO country or not, not even you smart guy.  But we should make sure he doesn't by helping Ukraine kick Russia's army back to the stone age.

"But the Pentagon Papers, assassination conspiracies, and other crap that has nothing to do with the discussion..."    :rolleyes:

They are nothing alike. Sorry to break that to you. You may want to go take a class on it at the local community college or something. 

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6 hours ago, Tebok said:

It's not cured, so why not fund more research?

MAGAs are pro-cancer.

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11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

You're right. This plan sucks. What's your plan?

Ideally, Ukraine kicks Russia out and regains all territorial integrity from before the war started. Unfortunately, the Ukraine counter-offensive to accomplish this stalled. After five +  three years of hoping for this outcome, it doesn't look like its going to happen and each side is pretty much dug in at this point.

....thus the plan that sucks looks less sucky. 

i think though if Putin can only accomplish carving off 20% of Ukraine before getting so bogged down, invading an actual NATO ally would be off the table.

My plan is for the US and EU to massively increase Ukraine support and more Russian sanctions, and make it perfectly clear to Russia they can't win.  Obviously not Trump's plan so hopefully the EU alone can provide enough support to keep Ukraine afloat and wait out the depleting Russian military and economy. The Russian military (like their economy) is holding on by shoe-strings.... using donkeys/camels, sending wounded men back to the front on crutches, resorting to North Korean soldiers, and desperately trying to sign new recruits with ever increasing incentives. This a result of meat wave tactics creating nearly one million casualties.

Ukraine's counter-offensive in year two was a failure, which some experts say the main problem was Ukraine using NATO tactics with combined arms including ground and AIR.  Ukraine attacked with virtually no air support and the results were disastrous. Today Ukraine's air power is significantly increased, but like you said with the Russians so dug in, another counter-offensive might not be so effective. Thus, simply waiting out Russia's depleting military is probably be the only strategy.

I don't believe attacking a NATO country in the future is "off the table."  Imagine if NATO was attacked tomorrow by Russia. Do you really believe Trump would send in military? Doubtful based on his actions/words, and without US support other NATO members would be much less inclined to fight as well. Trump has minimized the deterrent - as was feared. Trump gets credit for one thing - he's gotten Europe to get off their lazy butts and spend on military realizing they can no longer depend on the US. Unfortunately, it's come a huge cost of US influence.

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⬆️ This guy thinks his plan can be accomplished without troops. 

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On 3/22/2025 at 1:56 PM, Mufaletta said:

So a good portion of land that was previously part of Russia, where the people who lived there share a religion with Russians, whose ancestors came from Russian and the people all speak Russian as their native tongue will end up in Russia?

Oh the horror!

YEP!

 

Most people on this forearm don't understand that most of Eastern Ukraine is ethnic Russian.  

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1 hour ago, GobbleDog said:

My plan is for the US and EU to massively increase Ukraine support and more Russian sanctions, and make it perfectly clear to Russia they can't win.  Obviously not Trump's plan so hopefully the EU alone can provide enough support to keep Ukraine afloat and wait out the depleting Russian military and economy. The Russian military (like their economy) is holding on by shoe-strings.... using donkeys/camels, sending wounded men back to the front on crutches, resorting to North Korean soldiers, and desperately trying to sign new recruits with ever increasing incentives. This a result of meat wave tactics creating nearly one million casualties.

Ukraine's counter-offensive in year two was a failure, which some experts say the main problem was Ukraine using NATO tactics with combined arms including ground and AIR.  Ukraine attacked with virtually no air support and the results were disastrous. Today Ukraine's air power is significantly increased, but like you said with the Russians so dug in, another counter-offensive might not be so effective. Thus, simply waiting out Russia's depleting military is probably be the only strategy.

I don't believe attacking a NATO country in the future is "off the table."  Imagine if NATO was attacked tomorrow by Russia. Do you really believe Trump would send in military? Doubtful based on his actions/words, and without US support other NATO members would be much less inclined to fight as well. Trump has minimized the deterrent - as was feared. Trump gets credit for one thing - he's gotten Europe to get off their lazy butts and spend on military realizing they can no longer depend on the US. Unfortunately, it's come a huge cost of US influence.

Russia can't beat Ukraine... you think they're going to beat a NATO country? 

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2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Russia can't beat Ukraine... 

Pretty sure they just did 

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Then you'd be wrong.

They’ll have more land when this is over than when it started, that’s a W

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We shouldn't have even been involved in this in the first place.  We're choosing to help the lesser of two evils.  It would be like China invading North Korea and we jump in to help North Korea because they're the ones who got invaded.  The only reason we got involved in this, is because Biden is a corrupt politician who got help from Ukraine to make his son independently wealthy.

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20 hours ago, Tebok said:

Kind of hard to do now that Trump has blocked research funding.

Besides, the whole Biden curing cancer thing is fake news that MAGA mooks propagate.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/joe-biden-did-not-say-his-administration-cured-cancer-idUSL1N39D27V/

Facts beat memes, podcasts and right-wing misinformation every time, peaches.

right cause we haven't spent billions upon billions 

but they would have cured it except TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!

you don't even realize how stupid you are

 

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Just now, iam90sbaby said:

They’ll have more land when this is over than when it started, that’s a W

If they actually beat Ukraine, they'd have all of the land.  Hence, it's not a W.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

If they actually beat Ukraine, they'd have all of the land.  Hence, it's not a W.

Well the negotiations are based around what Russia gets to keep, not Ukraine, they won.  This probably isn’t far off the result Putin expected

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

right cause we haven't spent billions upon billions 

but they would have cured it except TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!

you don't even realize how stupid you are

 

6 months ago it would have been easy to point to squissy as the biggest retard.  But Tebok has taken over that distinction, which is an incredible feat of stupidity. 

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1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

Well the negotiations are based around what Russia gets to keep, not Ukraine, they won.  This probably isn’t far off the result Putin expected

If you're supposedly the 3rd or 4th best military in the world and you can't beat Ukraine and 3 days before they got any help from anyone, you're either not really trying or your military isn't that strong.  If we wanted to take over Ukraine, we'd do it 3 hours... let alone 3 days.  Russia's military is a joke.

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Why send the house if you don’t have to? They bled them out slowly and in the end are getting close to what they wanted. They also want to leave as much of Ukraine standing as possible without rebuilding everything. 
We could end the entire Middle East in a week if we actually wanted, instead we’ve been there for decades 

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20 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Why send the house if you don’t have to? They bled them out slowly and in the end are getting close to what they wanted. They also want to leave as much of Ukraine standing as possible without rebuilding everything. 
We could end the entire Middle East in a week if we actually wanted, instead we’ve been there for decades 

You're better off destroying the place and rebuilding it than you are wasting the money slow playing it.  On top of that, you're getting your military personnel killed.  Around 100k Russians fighting in this war have been killed.  There's no way that it's cheaper, better, or planned to draw this incursion out for 3+ years, getting approximately 100k of your own people killed, spending all that money, and using all of those military resources than it would be if you leveled a few infrastructure and military installations necessary to bring Ukraine down.

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This war is mostly Biden's fault and others within the US govt at the time Biden was VP and POTUS. He created the circumstances that led to this war, and then fueled it without a plan for winning.

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