Pete Rose, 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson among players reinstated by MLB

[Mike Honcho 5,414]

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In a historic, sweeping decision, baseball commissioner Rob Manfred on Tuesday removed Pete Rose, "Shoeless" Joe Jackson and other deceased players from Major League Baseball's permanently ineligible list.

The all-time hit king and Jackson -- both longtime baseball pariahs stained by gambling, seen by MLB as the game's mortal sin -- are now presumably eligible for election into the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York.

Manfred ruled that MLB's punishment of banned individuals ends upon their deaths.

"Obviously, a person no longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity of the game," Manfred wrote in a letter to attorney Jeffrey M. Lenkov, who petitioned for Rose's removal from the list Jan. 8. "Moreover, it is hard to conceive of a penalty that has more deterrent effect than one that lasts a lifetime with no reprieve.

"Therefore, I have concluded that permanent ineligibility ends upon the passing of the disciplined individual, and Mr. Rose will be removed from the permanently ineligible list."

Manfred's decision ends the ban that Rose accepted from then-Commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti in August 1989, following an MLB investigation that determined the 17-time All-Star had bet on games while managing the Cincinnati Reds.

[Mike Honcho 5,414]

I'm glad Buck Weaver's name has been removed from the list-he never should have been lumped in with the players who threw the World Series.  

[cmh6476 1,115]

Should have happened before he died

[thegeneral 3,562]

I’ll bet they get in the Hall now!

[Mike Honcho 5,414]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I’ll bet they get in the Hall now!

Just need a Oujia board and you can enjoy their speeches. 

 

[posty 2,807]

F'n Manfred...

Hopefully the HoF will vote Jackson in next time and then wait just as long as he had to wait before Rose gets in...

Of course Manfred doesn't care and continues to screw up Major League Baseball...

[kilroy69 1,268]

They were just waiting for him to die to do this. The commish is a jerk. 

[Cdub100 3,995]

7 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Should have happened before he died

I disagree. 

[thegeneral 3,562]

4 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

They were just waiting for him to die to do this. The commish is a jerk. 

You can’t do the time don’t do the crime!

[Mike Honcho 5,414]

 

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Rose also may have been a pedophile

Here's her description from the court documents, as reported by USA Today:

In 1973, when I was 14 or 15 years old, I received a phone call from Pete Rose of the Cincinnati Reds. Sometime after that, Pete Rose and I began meeting at a house in Cincinnati.It was at that house where, before my sixteenth birthday, Pete Rose began a sexual relationship with me. This sexual relationship lasted for several years. Pete Rose also met me in locations outside of Ohio where we had sex.

These new allegations alone should be enough to force the Phillies to cancel the ceremonies on August 12 and then to rescind his induction completely. But Rose's response yesterday should mean there's absolutely no debate. His response was not that he did not have sex with this young woman but rather that he did - but he thought she was 16.

Fock him- I hope he never gets into the HOF. 

[supermike80 2,070]

I'm Ok with this.   After death.  Seems a fair compromise.

[Strike 5,995]

What a stupid decision and the reasoning is asinine.  Pete Rose wasn't involved with MLB for the last couple of decades.  Therefore he was not a threat to the integrity of the sport even alive.  He was being punished for PREVIOUS transgressions to the integrity of the sport.  Such a cop out. 

[The Real timschochet 7,387]

Say it ain’t so Joe! 

[HellToupee 2,174]

The juicers deserve to get in first, imo

[HellToupee 2,174]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

Fock him- I hope he never gets into the HOF. 

I was expecting it to be a boy 

[thegeneral 3,562]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

The juicers deserve to get in first, imo

Agreed. Juicers could go in alive. I’d put in Pete and Joe now as well too. Definitely throw this info on their plaques.

[patweisers44 864]

33 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

The juicers deserve to get in first, imo

Hopefully that POS Clemens gets in soon, in a similar manner.

[posty 2,807]

Jackson was banned in 1921 and is now eligible...  He was not eligible for 104 years...

Rose was banned in 1989...  Yes he is now eligible, but he should not even sniff the Hall until 2093...  What he did was way worse than Jackson IMO...

Just goes to show how much Manfred is an ass...

[squistion 2,487]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Say it ain’t so Joe! 

Supposedly an apocryphal story.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,908]

So Manfred saw the light on these guys since taking over? Goodell is worse but this guy sucks too. 

[cmh6476 1,115]

Isnt the criteria for the hall what you did on the field, not off of it?

[posty 2,807]

4 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Isnt the criteria for the hall what you did on the field, not off of it?

 Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

[supermike80 2,070]

30 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Isnt the criteria for the hall what you did on the field, not off of it?

Oh CMH. You know as well as anyone MLB has a very deep history with gambling

[GobbleDog 1,010]

58 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

Isnt the criteria for the hall what you did on the field, not off of it?

I'm with you. This moral police game after their career is over is ridiculous.

"Well his stats are HOF worthy, but he was involved in those DUI car crashes. On the flip side, nobody died and he does seem really sorry... Ok, he's in!" 

Give me a break. Rose should be in. As for juicers - they wouldn't be HOF worthy without the juice. So no, they don't get in.

[BufordT 439]

Let him in. The HOF is such a joke these days it deserves a pompous a$$ like Pete Rose. 

[Mark Davis 424]

22 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

They were just waiting for him to die to do this. The commish is a jerk. 

100%.  Pete Rose knew this.  He spoke to a group of us out in Vegas one time.  He stated that after he died is when it would happen.  Rob Manfred is a total scumbag, he can't make a move without showing his colors.

As for Joe Jackson, any of you who have ever visited the HOF know the museum is full of his memorabilia and references to him.  To display his items openly and to have blackballed him for so long seems contradictory to say the least.