Israel attacks Iran UPDATE: Trump claims a cease fire among all countries

[RLLD 4,206]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

That is just factually incorrect.

But you are as disingenuous as they come. We are aware of this. You proved it again in this thread with your wishy washy lines of argument.

It was a lie when you tried it the first time, repeating that lie here and now is unsat.

You call me disingenuous, those on the right here call me fence sitter....because I always use the same approach, regardless of the situation. So your assertion is false and already proven so.

Again, I used the same logic I had for the prior months, Fox happened to use it, and you pretend I copied them....when it was THEY who copied ME.

You do not need to lie to make your points.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Iran attacks back.  We're looking at a full blown war.

Trump stayed out of it though- despite him outright encouraging Israel on and threatening Iran.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It was a lie when you tried it the first time, repeating that lie here and now is unsat.

You call me disingenuous, those on the right here call me fence sitter....because I always use the same approach, regardless of the situation. So your assertion is false and already proven so.

Again, I used the same logic I had for the prior months, Fox happened to use it, and you pretend I copied them....when it was THEY who copied ME.

You do not need to lie to make your points.

You are a lying sack of crap. Deal with it. You repeated what FOX said that morning on the issue that popped up overnight at the time. Not "for months." Stop lying and own it you sack

[RLLD 4,206]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You are a lying sack of crap. Deal with it. You repeated what FOX said that morning on the issue that popped up overnight at the time. Not "for months." Stop lying and own it you sack

You need to stop lying.  Fox repeated what I said, using the same approach as I did when Tim was trying to lie about the economy, and I asked him to scream it out on the streets, put up billboards...because I wanted everyone to know it was Democrat lying to them....its the same principle that I applied to the situation to which you refer. It is "MY" strategy, not Fox's....mine....which I held for months and months before Fox applied it.

Now, you want to pretend that I was mouthpiecing Fox? When your ilk suckle at the teat of legacy media without restraint? Please. Luckily I have the history of using that strategy.

Again, you so not need to lie to make your point.

[jbycho 754]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are a lying sack of crap. Deal with it. You repeated what FOX said that morning on the issue that popped up overnight at the time. Not "for months." Stop lying and own it you sack

FOX was correct. 

You are an angry babysitter....

[supermike80 1,891]

Israel isn't done either.   This is gonna get really ugly.

[Ron_Artest 1,362]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Trump stayed out of it though- despite him outright encouraging Israel on and threatening Iran.

We helped intercept the Iranian missles so we're in another war now.

Looks like the anti-war lower prices president is doing the exact opposite.

[shadrap 227]

1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said:

Are the prevailing winds in israel more or less the same as here, meaning west to east.  If so would not a nuke strike in israel have adverse sonsequences for Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and even Iran?

Sure, but Iran doesn't care.  The seem to love death, killing, stoning, beheading.   Always have or at least for 2000 years.

[jbycho 754]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Israel isn't done either.   This is gonna get really ugly.

Israel to save the world..

[jbycho 754]

1 minute ago, shadrap said:

Sure, but Iran doesn't care.  The seem to love death, killing, stoning, beheading.   Always have or at least for 2000 years.

In a normal person world, Iran should no longer exist.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

25 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You need to stop lying.  Fox repeated what I said, using the same approach as I did when Tim was trying to lie about the economy, and I asked him to scream it out on the streets, put up billboards...because I wanted everyone to know it was Democrat lying to them....its the same principle that I applied to the situation to which you refer. It is "MY" strategy, not Fox's....mine....which I held for months and months before Fox applied it.

Now, you want to pretend that I was mouthpiecing Fox? When your ilk suckle at the teat of legacy media without restraint? Please. Luckily I have the history of using that strategy.

Again, you so not need to lie to make your point.

You are a lying sack of crap.

Be honest for once

[RLLD 4,206]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You are a lying sack of crap.

Be honest for once

I have the proof of my prior posts....yet you continue your lie.  This is the time where you should pause, and apologize for your mistake.  But apparently your hubris will not allow it.

[Ron_Artest 1,362]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You are a lying sack of crap.

Be honest for once

Don't bother, he's a troll.  He's laughing at you right now.

[HellToupee 1,733]

46 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

That's right you focking goyim get your sons and daughters ready to go die for Jews who hate you.

In your eyes who hates us more , the Jews or the Muslims?

[HellToupee 1,733]

Wow Iran is striking Tel Aviv . I don’t see Khamenei surviving this.

[Fnord 2,204]

3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Wow Iran is striking Tel Aviv . I don’t see Khamenei surviving this.

And Jerusalem. Some impressive video of the iron dome in action.

[Cdub100 3,894]

41 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

In your eyes who hates us more , the Jews or the Muslims?

The Jews hands down 

But this isn't a which one question. We shouldn't support Israel at all. Let the Jews and Muslims kill each other other. 

[supermike80 1,891]

To me, there is no question whatsoever that if Iran develops the bomb, they will use it.  Most likely a smallish one, detonated in a highly populated area by a suicide bomber.

Then, they will throw themselves on the mercy of the western world and beg to not be annihliated.  The western world will capitulate.  Do something useless like sanctions,  maybe a small invasion.  The western world will cry for them, we will back off....and Iran will do it again.

[jerryskids 6,743]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

To me, there is no question whatsoever that if Iran develops the bomb, they will use it.  Most likely a smallish one, detonated in a highly populated area by a suicide bomber.

Then, they will throw themselves on the mercy of the western world and beg to not be annihliated.  The western world will capitulate.  Do something useless like sanctions,  maybe a small invasion.  The western world will cry for them, we will back off....and Iran will do it again.

Lefties don't get this.  They predict the behavior of other cultures based on what our culture would do. Then when the other culture, in this case a terrorist Islamic state, inevitably acts contrary to that, they fall back on the oppressed/oppressor card.  Basically, "their life sucks so it must be our fault, we should have helped them more."

They suck at empathy regarding other cultures.

[The Real timschochet 6,689]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Iran attacks back.  We're looking at a full blown war.

We are not. 

A “full blown war” means the army of one side invades the land of the other side, as Russia has done with Ukraine. What’s going on is serious but it’s not a war. 

[The Real timschochet 6,689]

40 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Lefties don't get this.  They predict the behavior of other cultures based on what our culture would do. Then when the other culture, in this case a terrorist Islamic state, inevitably acts contrary to that, they fall back on the oppressed/oppressor card.  Basically, "their life sucks so it must be our fault, we should have helped them more."

They suck at empathy regarding other cultures.

No this is a poor analysis. I don’t really want to speak for leftists but I don’t believe they think as you describe. 
 

Personally as a liberal I have never been comfortable with the idea of the Iranian mullahs having a nuclear weapon. I would rather they didn’t have one and I think military intervention is justifiable to prevent them from having one. But that said I’m not convinced they would use it if they had it; after all Pakistan, a fundamentalist Muslim nation, has had nukes for 40 years and never used them. Certainly they hate India as much or more than the Mullahs of Iran hate Israel. So I reject your assertion as absolute. Even so it’s too big a risk to take in my estimation. 

[The Real timschochet 6,689]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

 I put the odds at 50/50 that Iran turns out to be similar to Iraq when we went to "war" with them and Saddam.  

I missed this post earlier but it’s not very smart. Iran has twice the population of Iraq, 6 times the land area, and incredibly more resources. There is a reason we have never tried to invade Iran. (Among other things, Iran if it chose could block the Strait of Hormuz, threatening the entire world’s supply of oil. 
 

Israel does not have the ability to invade Iran. We do, theoretically, but it would take millions of men and lead to mass casualties. It would not be easy at all. 

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[Voltaire 5,288]

Hopefully Israel blows up the A-holea soon.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

15 hours ago, RLLD said:

You need to stop lying.  Fox repeated what I said, using the same approach as I did when Tim was trying to lie about the economy, and I asked him to scream it out on the streets, put up billboards...because I wanted everyone to know it was Democrat lying to them....its the same principle that I applied to the situation to which you refer. It is "MY" strategy, not Fox's....mine....which I held for months and months before Fox applied it.

Now, you want to pretend that I was mouthpiecing Fox? When your ilk suckle at the teat of legacy media without restraint? Please. Luckily I have the history of using that strategy.

Again, you so not need to lie to make your point.

Here's how I know you have nothing. It wasn't a conversation about the economy where I accused you of parroting FOX News.

So you are clueless in this instance as per your usual. 

You've lost- bow your head and walk away before you embarrass yourself further. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,923]

16 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Iran attacks back.  We're looking at a full blown war.

Fear mongering again I see. 

These 2 have been fighting since the beginning of time. This isn't the first and it won't be the last time. 

Typical Liberal BS from you, always.  

[avoiding injuries 1,569]

16 hours ago, HellToupee said:

In your eyes who hates us more , the Jews or the Muslims?

Jews cover it up and are discrete. Muslims are very vocal and open about their hate. 
Jews have arguably done more damage. 

[Engorgeous George 2,299]

13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

We are not. 

A “full blown war” means the army of one side invades the land of the other side, as Russia has done with Ukraine. What’s going on is serious but it’s not a war. 

The distinction, if any, is lost I am sure on those rushing their children to bomb shelters in the dark of night and emerging to find their homes gone and their neighbors dead or maimed.  Modern warfare has evolved.  This is one of the many new faces of war.  Some of the old faces certainly remain.

[jbycho 754]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Here's how I know you have nothing. It wasn't a conversation about the economy where I accused you of parroting FOX News.

So you are clueless in this instance as per your usual. 

You've lost- bow your head and walk away before you embarrass yourself further. 

The babysitter is upset. 

[jbycho 754]

13 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I missed this post earlier but it’s not very smart. Iran has twice the population of Iraq, 6 times the land area, and incredibly more resources. There is a reason we have never tried to invade Iran. (Among other things, Iran if it chose could block the Strait of Hormuz, threatening the entire world’s supply of oil. 
 

Israel does not have the ability to invade Iran. We do, theoretically, but it would take millions of men and lead to mass casualties. It would not be easy at all. 

[TimHauck 2,767]

19 hours ago, RLLD said:

You need to stop lying.  Fox repeated what I said, using the same approach as I did when Tim was trying to lie about the economy, and I asked him to scream it out on the streets, put up billboards...because I wanted everyone to know it was Democrat lying to them....its the same principle that I applied to the situation to which you refer. It is "MY" strategy, not Fox's....mine....which I held for months and months before Fox applied it.

Now, you want to pretend that I was mouthpiecing Fox? When your ilk suckle at the teat of legacy media without restraint? Please. Luckily I have the history of using that strategy.

Again, you so not need to lie to make your point.

Which Tim are you talking about?  If you’re going to talk sh1t at least tag who you’re talking to, you focking coward.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

31 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Which Tim are you talking about?  If you’re going to talk sh1t at least tag who you’re talking to, you focking coward.

He's lying anyway because he has no idea what I'm even referring to. 

[TimHauck 2,767]

11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

He's lying anyway because he has no idea what I'm even referring to. 

I think he’s talking about me calling out his moronic comments about the 2024 economy being worse than 2008.  Initially I thought he meant as a whole (which may be what he’s claiming is the “lie”),  but he “clarified” that he was only talking about “the lower classes,” which of course is still equally stupid.

[The Real timschochet 6,689]

2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

The distinction, if any, is lost I am sure on those rushing their children to bomb shelters in the dark of night and emerging to find their homes gone and their neighbors dead or maimed.  Modern warfare has evolved.  This is one of the many new faces of war.  Some of the old faces certainly remain.

No you’re right from that perspective. But there is still a significant difference. I think that shortly Iran and Israel are going to stop bombing each other and this latest incident will be exactly that, an incident. On the other hand, for Ukraine-Russia to be over, Russia is going to have to pull their forces out of Ukraine, or Ukraine is going to have to surrender territory, or some combination of the two. 

[TimHauck 2,767]

23 hours ago, RLLD said:

Yes, the admin is staying out of it

The Trump administration has publicly distanced itself from Israel’s strikes, . Rubio emphasized these were unilateral Israeli operations with no direct U.S. military involvement  .

Officials have made it clear that the U.S. will not participate in offensive operations against Iran, including bombing or coordinated kinetic actions .

They are doing the exact thing we all want and its OK to accept this, even if you hate the man you can like the decisions you wantd.

 

23 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Trump last night:

Trump today AFTER Rubio's comments:

 

None of this is staying out of it.

It's okay to call this out even if you worship the man and defend everything he does. 

Yeah, this:

 the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come

Is NOT “publicly distancing itself.”  @RLLD is a clown 

[Engorgeous George 2,299]

Isreal could, as it thirsts for peace and security, cause Iran to thirst as well, but for water.  Iran's drinking water infrastructure is quite vulnerable and they already suffer shortages without the systems being obliterated.

 

This is not to encourage causing the people to die of thirst for the sins of their leaders.  it is simply an observation on their incredible vulnerability for all of their posturing of invincibility.

[Sean Mooney 1,976]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Yeah, this:

 the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come

Is NOT “publicly distancing itself.”  @RLLD is a clown 

Of course he is...he was presented with Trump's own comments and still feels they are staying out of it. 

 

Dude is clueless

[Maximum Overkill 1,923]

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