Minnesota

[Tree of Knowledge 2,302]

I don’t know about anyone else, but I can’t get enough of these ICE videos of them spraying these kooks with tear gas.  

[MDC 8,264]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I've repeatedly said I don't think she was trying to hit him.  I, like you, have had the luxury of analyzing multiple videos after the fact, from the comfort of my office chair, to form that opinion.  

I was just commenting on the discussion not implying you said she was attempting murder. 

This incident probably called for a nonpartisan investigation / review by people who know way more about police procedure than anyone at the GC.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

9 minutes ago, nobody said:

I guess I don't understand why it's too much to ask people don't put people's lives in danger with their vehicle.

I mean whether you think the officer felt his life was in danger or not, his life was in danger.  I mean driving a vehicle inches from someone on an icy street is extremely dangerous.  Can we at least agree on that?  

His life was never in danger.  He's still alive, and the fact that he's alive has nothing to do with him putting 3 bullets in her head.  If his gun jammed, he would still be alive, and so would Renee.

The only thing we can possibly agree on is if he thought his life was in danger, which I'm willing to accept he thought it.  I do think it's more likely he was just pissed off and took out his anger on Renee.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,231]

30 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Sure he did.  He was very injured!

Thats it? That’s the rebuttal? 

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I should have said athletic activity, specifically those which require reaction.  IIRC you run a lot, that doesn't count, as you clearly don't understand reaction times.

I've played sports my whole life.  Stop acting like a tough guy when you don't know sh1t.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,231]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

His life was never in danger.  He's still alive, and the fact that he's alive has nothing to do with him putting 3 bullets in her head.  If his gun jammed, he would still be alive, and so would Renee.

The only thing we can possibly agree on is if he thought his life was in danger, which I'm willing to accept he thought it.  I do think it's more likely he was just pissed off and took out his anger on Renee.

I feel the same about Ashley 

[thegeneral 3,828]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

So we agree!  Yessssss!

I haven’t read through all this one. These cops acted poorly. In whole fhe way they are going about this is a terrible look and I’m surprised anyone thinks this is being handled well.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Thats it? That’s the rebuttal? 

Show me the medical report?

This admin lies about everything.  Cannot be trusted.  The first thing they told you was Renee attacked officers while they were trying to push their car out of snow.

[jerryskids 7,269]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I've played sports my whole life.  Stop acting like a tough guy when you don't know sh1t.

Well then why do you show zero understanding of reaction time?  Why do you look at a still photo of him to the side of the car and smoke coming out of his gun, and think he jumped to the side, then initiated the trigger pull?  

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I haven’t read through all this one. These cops acted poorly. In whole fhe way they are going about this is a terrible look and I’m surprised anyone thinks this is being handled well.

Every trustworthy police officer I have heard break this down admits the ICE agents focked up.  Don't stand in front of a vehicle, give clear instructions to driver, don't try and open drivers door, etc.  ICE agents are not trained for policing of vehicle stops.  They beat up brown people, that's what they are good at.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Well then why do you show zero understanding of reaction time?  Why do you look at a still photo of him to the side of the car and smoke coming out of his gun, and think he jumped to the side, then initiated the trigger pull?  

Because that's what he did.  It's on video.  Stop gaslighting.

[MDC 8,264]

One difference between the cop who shot Babbitt and this ICE agent is that Michael Byrd’s actions were investigated / reviewed by DOJ, USCP, DC police and none of them found any cause for charges.

Another is that the POTUS let the investigation play out vs. running to Twitter to make shiit up and immediately say Byrd has “blanket immunity.” 

[edjr 7,127]

Why haven't Gutterboy, Rusty, Squissy et al, flown to Minn to partake in these protests?  They are frauds. 

[cyclone24 1,970]

16 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Because that's what he did.  It's on video.  Stop gaslighting.

lol… all the facts like him getting hit debunked. He wasnt injured debunked. Didn’t shoot from the front debunked. She feared for her life. Debunked. 
 

It’s also really funny given the videos we have out when Obama and Biden were president how supportive you guys were for ice getting out of illegals. Didn’t say a word about it then. Again this is what Trump arrangement syndrome looks like. And you guys are somehow the last to realize you have it. Unfortunately, it’s getting your dipshiit followers killed Because these guys are surprised that they use real bullets for God sake’s. Absolute morons.

 

[edjr 7,127]

 

[jerryskids 7,269]

28 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Because that's what he did.  It's on video.  Stop gaslighting.

Gaslighting.    Thanks for confirming you understand nothing of reaction times.  I can't fix your deficiency, so carry on. 

[dogcows 1,439]

32 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Every trustworthy police officer I have heard break this down admits the ICE agents focked up.  Don't stand in front of a vehicle, give clear instructions to driver, don't try and open drivers door, etc.  ICE agents are not trained for policing of vehicle stops.  They beat up brown people, that's what they are good at.

Don’t forget having the gun in one hand and phone in the other. Not only was there zero reason for his gun to be drawn, but doing that would flunk you out of firearms 101.

If he did fear for his life, it was due to his and his fellow agents’ bad choices.

A decent administration would have immediately started an investigation. Instead they literally labeled the victim a terrorist.

One other thing to add. Some people are completely writing off murder as a possible charge. There are degrees of murder, and gross negligence can qualify. I wonder if going in front of a running vehicle with your gun drawn then “fearing for your life” might qualify. And the “f-ing b-tch” caught on video afterwards suggest the possibility that anger might have been a bigger factor than actual fear.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

22 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

lol… all the facts like him getting hit debunked. He wasnt injured debunked. Didn’t shoot from the front debunked. She feared for her life. Debunked. 
 

It’s also really funny given the videos we have out when Obama and Biden were president how supportive you guys were for ice getting out of illegals. Didn’t say a word about it then. Again this is what Trump arrangement syndrome looks like. And you guys are somehow the last to realize you have it. Unfortunately, it’s getting your dipshiit followers killed Because these guys are surprised that they use real bullets for God sake’s. Absolute morons.

 

We've never seen ICE terrorizing cities like they are today under Biden or Obama.  Stop gaslighting.

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Just now, dogcows said:

Don’t forget having the gun in one hand and phone in the other. 

Great shooting. He only had a moment to save the lives of innocents. True hero. 

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Gaslighting.    Thanks for confirming you understand nothing of reaction times.  I can't fix your deficiency, so carry on. 

I understand reaction times just fine.  I don't even know what you're trying to say you're all twisted up.  You're spewing nonsense.  Try harder.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

25 minutes ago, edjr said:

Why haven't Gutterboy, Rusty, Squissy et al, flown to Minn to partake in these protests?  They are frauds. 

In order to support the people of Minn you need to go there and protest?

Great take edjr.  Stick to golf threads.

[seafoam1 3,586]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

We've never seen ICE terrorizing cities like they are today under Biden or Obama.  Stop gaslighting.

They aren't terrorizing me. They are welcome to come and search around where I live. 

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

We've never seen ICE terrorizing cities like they are today under Biden or Obama.  Stop gaslighting.

ICE isn't terrorizing anything.  The only reason we even know this crap is going on is because activists are following them around and filming and harassing them.  Then, when that inflames tensions and something goes wrong as happened with Good, the activists and MSM make ICE the bad guy.  If you all just let them go about their business none of this crap would be happening, no one would even know ICE was doing anything, and lots of illegals would be vacating our country.  

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Don’t forget having the gun in one hand and phone in the other. Not only was there zero reason for his gun to be drawn, but doing that would flunk you out of firearms 101.

If he did fear for his life, it was due to his and his fellow agents’ bad choices.

A decent administration would have immediately started an investigation. Instead they literally labeled the victim a terrorist.

One other thing to add. Some people are completely writing off murder as a possible charge. There are degrees of murder, and gross negligence can qualify. I wonder if going in front of a running vehicle with your gun drawn then “fearing for your life” might qualify. And the “f-ing b-tch” caught on video afterwards suggest the possibility that anger might have been a bigger factor than actual fear.

I get your point, but we're never going to see any charges so no reason to debate what would happen in a court room anyway.

The point is his actions didn't save his life or anyone else's life.  They took a life for no reason.  He should never be allowed on the street with a gun again.

[dogcows 1,439]

Just now, Strike said:

ICE isn't terrorizing anything.  The only reason we even know this crap is going on is because activists are following them around and filming and harassing them.  Then, when that inflames tensions and something goes wrong as happened with Good, the activists and MSM make ICE the bad guy.  If you all just let them go about their business none of this crap would be happening, no one would even know ICE was doing anything, and lots of illegals would be vacating our country.  

This is such a blatant lie. ICE has been bringing camera crews with them on raids and creating flashy videos, even adding music to them. 

It’s a show for those who hate immigrants the most. And it seems like those folks love it, while a majority of people are disgusted.

[seafoam1 3,586]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

ICE isn't terrorizing anything.  The only reason we even know this crap is going on is because activists are following them around and filming and harassing them.  Then, when that inflames tensions and something goes wrong as happened with Good, the activists and MSM make ICE the bad guy.  If you all just let them go about their business none of this crap would be happening, no one would even know ICE was doing anything, and lots of illegals would be vacating our country.  

I wonder how gutterboy would react if some people started following him and his family around everywhere they went and taunted them and got in their way every step of their days?

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

If you all just let them go about their business none of this crap would be happening, no one would even know ICE was doing anything, and lots of illegals would be vacating our country.  

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Which is why it's so important for the good men of ICE to continue what they're doing.  I'm so glad we're in agreement on that.  

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

Just now, Strike said:

Which is why it's so important for the good men of ICE to continue what they're doing.  I'm so glad we're in agreement on that.  

ICE are not the "good men", slappy.

[dogcows 1,439]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I get your point, but we're never going to see any charges so no reason to debate what would happen in a court room anyway.

The point is his actions didn't save his life or anyone else's life.  They took a life for no reason.  He should never be allowed on the street with a gun again.

Yep, and the agents shouldn’t have even come up to that woman’s car like that either.

Then we get into the question of why are they even in Minnesota, which has a pretty low number of undocumented immigrants compared to many other states.

We know why: to target Somalians. They arrested many legal refugees who had done nothing wrong. Under the pretense of reviewing their cases? You don’t need to detain somebody to review their case. 

This was bound to happen. People who don’t know what they are doing put into situations where they don’t belong. I would argue that the architects of this operation KNEW it would go this far. That is why they had the “domestic terrorist” smear ready to go at a moment’s notice. 

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

ICE are not the "good men", slappy.

Absolutely they are.  147 Million Americans voted for this.

[cyclone24 1,970]

10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

We've never seen ICE terrorizing cities like they are today under Biden or Obama.  Stop gaslighting.

“Terrorizing!!”  

again, if you didn’t want them in the communities, you could’ve rounded them up and they would just have picked them up at the jail…but you didn’t want to. Little late to complain about the visuals now. No matter how many of your blue hairs get used as props protesting something you didn’t before. 
 

And yeah, if you’re here legally or you’re committing crimes or you’re here running fraudulent daycare’s you should be terrified. You all just live on a completely different planet. I’m OK not being anywhere near.

[edjr 7,127]

being here illegally is not a crime ~torridjoe

[cyclone24 1,970]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Yep, and the agents shouldn’t have even come up to that woman’s car like that either.

Then we get into the question of why are they even in Minnesota, which has a pretty low number of undocumented immigrants compared to many other states.

We know why: to target Somalians. They arrested many legal refugees who had done nothing wrong. Under the pretense of reviewing their cases? You don’t need to detain somebody to review their case. 

This was bound to happen. People who don’t know what they are doing put into situations where they don’t belong. I would argue that the architects of this operation KNEW it would go this far. That is why they had the “domestic terrorist” smear ready to go at a moment’s notice. 

Just made up gibberish. Like every part of that is just fabricated. 

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Just now, edjr said:

being here illegally is not a crime ~torridjoe

Ees a Hambush.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry that's just one of my favorite punchlines in the history of the GC.  I don't even remember the joke.  So I feel compelled to post it periodically for no good reason whatsoever.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Yep, and the agents shouldn’t have even come up to that woman’s car like that either.

Then we get into the question of why are they even in Minnesota, which has a pretty low number of undocumented immigrants compared to many other states.

We know why: to target Somalians. They arrested many legal refugees who had done nothing wrong. Under the pretense of reviewing their cases? You don’t need to detain somebody to review their case. 

This was bound to happen. People who don’t know what they are doing put into situations where they don’t belong. I would argue that the architects of this operation KNEW it would go this far. That is why they had the “domestic terrorist” smear ready to go at a moment’s notice. 

Somalis, Walz, George Flloyd, and the losing of the election.  Trump has had a hard on Minn for years.

[Ron_Artest 2,760]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Absolutely they are.  147 Million Americans voted for this.

35% approve of it.

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Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Somalis, Walz, George Flloyd, and the losing of the election.  Trump has had a hard on Minn for years.

You have to admit that's pretty impressive at his age.

[HellToupee 2,384]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

No serious person thinks this woman was trying to run him down

I dismiss your premise solely based on she was a woman driver. She obviously lacked skill

[Reality 3,176]

This one of the dumber conversations we've ever had here. It's so cut & dry this will never see the inside of a court room. Rightfully so, obviously.

My question is, to the normal folks, do you think these liberal retards have these conversations in real life? Like, out in the world? My guess is, they only have them here where they can hide behind their anonymity. Nobody is actually this focking stupid, right?

You haven't heard actual people talk like this in the real world have you? I'm not referring to the paid agitators, I get their motivations. I'm talking store lines, dinner, sports bars, the gym, kids activities, etc. You know, places actual, real life, productive members of society go. I'm guessing, no.