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Just now, MDC said:

Patriotic Americans love to see government thugs demanding people show their papers and detaining citizens without cause.

Just like the founders intended. USA!  

RUINED  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,281]

Liberals ignore the basic premise of staying the Fock out of the way when men with guns are doing their work. Record all you want, but STFU and stay out of the way. 

[MDC 8,300]

I’ve seen at least 2 videos of ICE assaulting protestors for merely recording them. 

[Hawkeye21 2,481]

Just now, MDC said:

I’ve seen at least 2 videos of ICE assaulting protestors for merely recording them. 

Were those protesters told to move because they were interfering or did the officer go out of his way to assault the protester? 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,281]

Just now, MDC said:

I’ve seen at least 2 videos of ICE assaulting protestors for merely recording them. 

Cool. Then they should make a report and talk with a lawyer. Now stay out of the way and don’t be blowing whistles and honking horns 

[TimHauck 3,534]

Gonna need to see a list of names to believe  they arrested 10k illegals in like 2 weeks in one metro

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Can someone post a link to what Laken Riley's parents think of ICE's tactics?   TIA.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Gonna need to see a list of names to believe  they arrested 10k illegals in like 2 weeks.

Juan

Jose

Pedro

Maria

Repeat the above 2500 times.

[TimHauck 3,534]

Looks like they claimed they got 450 from when they were in Charlotte.  That makes sense.  Lol at 10k.  @Reality actually believes that? 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,281]

What’s 10k divided by 365? 

[thegeneral 3,856]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Looks like they claimed they got 450 from when they were in Charlotte.  That makes sense.  Lol at 10k.  @Reality actually believes that? 

They only count initial arrests. When they let them go later they say oopsie our bad and don’t charge the numbers. 

[TimHauck 3,534]

Just now, thegeneral said:

They only count initial arrests. When they let them go later they say oopsie our bad and don’t charge the numbers. 

So I see Noem is saying it’s 3k in the last 6 weeks (still likely a lie).  Maybe 10k is like since 2016 or something 

[dogcows 1,468]

If Gnome wants to talk numbers, how about these:

Texas has about 2.1 million undocumented immigrants  

Florida has 1.6 M undocumented immigrants

Minnesota has 130,000

This is NOT about removing criminals, or even undocumented immigrants. It’s all because Trump said Somalians are garbage. That’s it. That’s how idiotic this government is under MAGA rule.

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16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Were those protesters told to move because they were interfering or did the officer go out of his way to assault the protester? 

Or video was unclear. In the second, the ICE agent walks at least 10-15 steps to shove someone who was doing nothing but timing.

I also saw one clip of ICE dropping tear gas in an intersection of protestors for no obvious reason.

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48 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liberals ignore the basic premise of staying the Fock out of the way when men with guns are doing their work. Record all you want, but STFU and stay out of the way. 

You would do the same if men with guns show up and try and kidnap your wife and kids?

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43 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Looks like they claimed they got 450 from when they were in Charlotte.  That makes sense.  Lol at 10k.  @Reality actually believes that? 

@Reality is dumb enough to be @Hardcore troubadour

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

I see a difference. Bovino looks like a butch lesbian and the Wehrmacht look like men. NTTAWWT

[Reality 3,187]

Bunch of liberal weirdos quibbling over numbers they have no way of disproving. Meanwhile, ICE & this administration are cleaning up Biden's mess and getting violent illegal criminals off the street.

That's a dub any day of the week. 

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6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

Fox News and Gateway Pundit are not reporting these things. Ergo, they are not happening.

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10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

Where do the forearm rubes go now? Crisis actor? Commie pinko police force?  

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5 minutes ago, Reality said:

Bunch of liberal weirdos quibbling over numbers they have no way of disproving. Meanwhile, ICE & this administration are cleaning up Biden's mess and getting violent illegal criminals off the street.

That's a dub any day of the week. 

Reality:  ICE arrested Eleventy Billion illegals who all murdered kids in Mineapolis.

GC: You're a complete idiot

Reality: Well you can't disprove it, I win.

[jerryskids 7,284]

3 hours ago, dogcows said:

Ive already seen the excuse of “Kavanaugh said ignoring the 4th amendment is the ‘law of the land’ now.” Or the argument that rounding people up is fine because you might occasionally find a criminal!

And I wonder if such people even care about the constitution of their own country. Or maybe they are just ok with it if the American citizens whose rights are being violated look like this:

 

 

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Another U.S. citizen, an old man, dragged out of his house without cause and without clothes. He wasn’t “impeding” anybody. I’m really sick of the excuses being given to terrorize communities and completely ignore the bill of rights.

https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/ice-st-paul-chongly-scott-thao-saly-hmong-us-citizen-arrest

FOCK anybody still defending this shite. These government thugs are engaged in illegal and unconstitutional activity.

Ben Shapiro said the other day, rightfully so, that if there is anything Americans don't like, it's seeing ugly pictures on their screens.  And this situation has provided no shortage of them.  I'm confident that ICE is doing some questionable-at-best things.  But I also think that your chosen media is feeding you what they want you to see.

For instance, in your first post above, they lead with "shoved to the ground" and link to a Yahoo article which has:

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The situation quickly escalated anyway, she said, with an agent calling her a racial slur and another telling her they were “making America great again.” In videos of the incident recorded by neighbors and circulating on social media, a dozen masked agents can be seen surrounding her, forcing her to the ground and then into a car.

First sentence, really?  I know, you believe it because they are Nazi fascist Somaliphobe scum.  But really?  If you aren't suspicious yet, take the second sentence.  It has a link to video of her being forced to the ground and then into a car.  Problem is... when you go to the link, she is on her feet the entire time.  A bunch of ICE agents are just standing around, and eventually she is escorted to a car.  Now, I can't say she wasn't on the ground prior, but would you admit that the article flat out lied about their link?

In your second post, that's a bad look, so I expect to be inundated with that photo.  And perhaps deservedly so.  But as I often like to do, what would Occam's Razor say?  Option 1, the government's story, is that they believed the old man was harboring two violent criminal illegal aliens, hence the deployment of 10-15 heavily armed agents.  Option 2, the story of your highly biased source (and hopefully you can agree that it is very biased), is that the government sent 10-15 heavily armed agents to terrorize an old man US citizen.  To me it's obvious, but you may think the second option makes more sense.

I'm not saying that justifies making a (surprisingly fit looking) old man walk out in shorts and a blanket.  But it goes to context, at least the reason they were there.

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17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You would do the same if men with guns show up and try and kidnap your wife and kids?

No. You’re so stupid.  Congratulations. 

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4 minutes ago, MDC said:

Where do the forearm rubes go now? Crisis actor? Commie pinko police force?  

There you go. Lodged your complaint. Now stay the Fock out of the way.  

[MDC 8,300]

Good on this police chief for calling out the civil rights abuses. I’m glad Minnesotans are standing up for their rights.

HT would hand over his purse and thank the ICE officer with a blowjob.  

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20 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Ben Shapiro said the other day, rightfully so, that if there is anything Americans don't like, it's seeing ugly pictures on their screens.  And this situation has provided no shortage of them.  I'm confident that ICE is doing some questionable-at-best things.  But I also think that your chosen media is feeding you what they want you to see.

For instance, in your first post above, they lead with "shoved to the ground" and link to a Yahoo article which has:

First sentence, really?  I know, you believe it because they are Nazi fascist Somaliphobe scum.  But really?  If you aren't suspicious yet, take the second sentence.  It has a link to video of her being forced to the ground and then into a car.  Problem is... when you go to the link, she is on her feet the entire time.  A bunch of ICE agents are just standing around, and eventually she is escorted to a car.  Now, I can't say she wasn't on the ground prior, but would you admit that the article flat out lied about their link?

In your second post, that's a bad look, so I expect to be inundated with that photo.  And perhaps deservedly so.  But as I often like to do, what would Occam's Razor say?  Option 1, the government's story, is that they believed the old man was harboring two violent criminal illegal aliens, hence the deployment of 10-15 heavily armed agents.  Option 2, the story of your highly biased source (and hopefully you can agree that it is very biased), is that the government sent 10-15 heavily armed agents to terrorize an old man US citizen.  To me it's obvious, but you may think the second option makes more sense.

I'm not saying that justifies making a (surprisingly fit looking) old man walk out in shorts and a blanket.  But it goes to context, at least the reason they were there.

I observed the same in that video and also wondered why at one point early on it looked as though an ICE agent standing in front of her quickly recoiled, like she spit at him or something. The video is not conclusive in the least, though the fact that she allegedly is a US citizen that showed them her ID and still got detained is highly problematic.

As for the other video... Let's say I take what you're saying as true on its face. The Feds think there's a gaggle of sexual deviant non-white people in there (the worst of the worst people!), so they're loaded for bear. They enter the home... and still arrest the guy, a US citizen, and perp walk him out in the bitter cold without clothing because... why again? He WAS NOT the person they were looking for, again assuming they are being truthful. They did not charge him. They terrorized his family based on, at best, a grievous error. 

Now repeat this circumstance several dozen or a few hundred times. US citizens having heavily armed and masked soldiers literally busting into and damaging their homes during a brutally cold spell, in many cases without the necessary warrants, detaining them without charges, refusing to let them contact lawyers or family members, holding them for days at a time, then finally releasing them without so much as a "sorry for our screwup!"

Meanwhile, our esteemed VP is telling American citizens these guys have blanket immunity for whatever they do. There will be no legal recourse for these illegal searches and seizures, no class action lawsuits, no investigations into potential abuses by ICE personnel.

You know god damn well this all constitutes flagrant violations of the Bill of Rights, amongst numerous other laws. Why again? Oh, that's right because FRAUD. One has ZERO ZILCH NADA to do with the other. ICE has no jurisdiction in that realm. So... why? Oh yeah, because MN has the biggest population of immigrants errr Swedes err Pollacks err... Somalians! That's it! And Trump hates MN and our governor, too. He still thinks he won here three times FFS.

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4 hours ago, dogcows said:

You can’t even read. It was the lawyer telling the media they couldn’t talk to their client.

Seems you can't read nor comprehend. 

 

[Reality 3,187]

24 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Reality:  ICE arrested Eleventy Billion illegals who all murdered kids in Mineapolis.

GC: You're a complete idiot

Reality: Well you can't disprove it, I win.

You're pretty stupid, the thread I posted listed illegals faces with the crimes they committed along with arrest numbers.

That was the entire point of her post. 

Good effort though.

 

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Ben Shapiro said the other day, rightfully so, that if there is anything Americans don't like, it's seeing ugly pictures on their screens.  And this situation has provided no shortage of them.  I'm confident that ICE is doing some questionable-at-best things.  But I also think that your chosen media is feeding you what they want you to see.

For instance, in your first post above, they lead with "shoved to the ground" and link to a Yahoo article which has:

First sentence, really?  I know, you believe it because they are Nazi fascist Somaliphobe scum.  But really?  If you aren't suspicious yet, take the second sentence.  It has a link to video of her being forced to the ground and then into a car.  Problem is... when you go to the link, she is on her feet the entire time.  A bunch of ICE agents are just standing around, and eventually she is escorted to a car.  Now, I can't say she wasn't on the ground prior, but would you admit that the article flat out lied about their link?

In your second post, that's a bad look, so I expect to be inundated with that photo.  And perhaps deservedly so.  But as I often like to do, what would Occam's Razor say?  Option 1, the government's story, is that they believed the old man was harboring two violent criminal illegal aliens, hence the deployment of 10-15 heavily armed agents.  Option 2, the story of your highly biased source (and hopefully you can agree that it is very biased), is that the government sent 10-15 heavily armed agents to terrorize an old man US citizen.  To me it's obvious, but you may think the second option makes more sense.

I'm not saying that justifies making a (surprisingly fit looking) old man walk out in shorts and a blanket.  But it goes to context, at least the reason they were there.

I think the crux of our disagreement is this. You seem to be saying we should give ICE the benefit of the doubt. That may have been true in the past, but IMO they have proven numerous times in the past few months that they no longer deserve it.

I believe your Occam’s razor argument is a false dichotomy. The individual agents probably bore that man no premeditated malice; I’m sure it was their first time seeing him. But the entire setup is what leads to this cruelty. Quotas for arrests, suspension of the 4th amendment, poor training, and statements from the highest levels of our government that anybody who doesn’t welcome ICE with open arms is a domestic terrorist.

One tangent on that: they didn’t have a judicial warrant, so breaking the door was plainly illegal. And if they HAD a warrant, it would have had the ADDRESS on it. Did I mention the added wrinkle of DHS leaders telling agents they have full immunity for whatever they do? Why not just bust down doors, meet the quota, and laugh when the “libs” complain about it?

On the female detainee, I found a better account that seems just focused on the verifiable facts. No pushing to the ground is mentioned, but the treatment was illegal and unnecessary.

https://diyatvusa.com/ice-detains-of-u-s-citizen-nasra-ahmed-for-two-days/

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Holy Tl/dr 

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@Fnordand @dogcows, thanks for the responses.  My main point was in my first paragraph, which I'll repeat here:

"I'm confident that ICE is doing some questionable-at-best things.  But I also think that your chosen media is feeding you what they want you to see."

You may feel I am not strong enough with "questionable," fine.  But the media is exacerbating/lying about situations, and you are accepting it as gospel.  The truth is likely somewhere between that, and "ICE is 100% correct and righteous."

You seem to both acknowledge that you were fed some crap about the woman, good.

Let's focus on the surprisingly fit old man. I intentionally set up the Occam's Razor dichotomy to isolate the reason ICE was there, vs. perp walking the guy.  I'm confident that those agents thought there might be some bad illegal aliens there.  Did they need to apprehend the guy?  We don't know; perhaps they thought he had information he was withholding, and/or he had been uncooperative.  Or perhaps their instructions were to grab the guy if the bad guys weren't there.  Then again, maybe they thought just bringing in any person helps them reach their quota, or maybe they just wanted to be mean.  We can agree to disagree I guess, but either way it is uncertain.  Finally, did they need to walk him out without a shirt or jacket?  That seems highly unlikely, so shame on the ICE agents.

So, we've gone from "ICE sent a bunch of armed agents in to accost an old citizen and perp walked him half-naked!" to "ICE perp walked this guy with an unreasonable amount of clothing, which seems excessive and unprofessional."

 

[TimHauck 3,534]

Just watched Shirley’s second video about the transportation companies.  At least he’s not hiding his security this time.  He does seem to keep his cool for the most part and IIRC sometimes at least says “allegedly” this time.   

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Just watched Shirley’s second video about the transportation companies.  At least he’s not hiding his security this time.  He does seem to keep his cool for the most part and IIRC sometimes at least says “allegedly” this time.   

So what do you think? Fraud? 

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40 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So what do you think? Fraud? 

Yeah there was probably some fraud there just like I said there was probably some fraud in the first video.  IIRC they only went to a few places in this one so they may have researched better in advance.

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

@Fnordand @dogcows, thanks for the responses.  My main point was in my first paragraph, which I'll repeat here:

"I'm confident that ICE is doing some questionable-at-best things.  But I also think that your chosen media is feeding you what they want you to see."

You may feel I am not strong enough with "questionable," fine.  But the media is exacerbating/lying about situations, and you are accepting it as gospel.  The truth is likely somewhere between that, and "ICE is 100% correct and righteous."

You seem to both acknowledge that you were fed some crap about the woman, good.

Let's focus on the surprisingly fit old man. I intentionally set up the Occam's Razor dichotomy to isolate the reason ICE was there, vs. perp walking the guy.  I'm confident that those agents thought there might be some bad illegal aliens there.  Did they need to apprehend the guy?  We don't know; perhaps they thought he had information he was withholding, and/or he had been uncooperative.  Or perhaps their instructions were to grab the guy if the bad guys weren't there.  Then again, maybe they thought just bringing in any person helps them reach their quota, or maybe they just wanted to be mean.  We can agree to disagree I guess, but either way it is uncertain.  Finally, did they need to walk him out without a shirt or jacket?  That seems highly unlikely, so shame on the ICE agents.

So, we've gone from "ICE sent a bunch of armed agents in to accost an old citizen and perp walked him half-naked!" to "ICE perp walked this guy with an unreasonable amount of clothing, which seems excessive and unprofessional."

 

They didn’t have a warrant. Going in was therefore illegal. Any agents with proper training would know that. So… either they didn’t get the proper training or they didn’t care and went in anyway. Either one is bad news.
Then the DHS “cover story” seems even worse to me. According to DHS “"The US citizen lives with these two convicted sex offenders at the site of the operation," DHS said. "The individual refused to be fingerprinted or facially ID'd. He matched the description of the targets."”

 

He matched the description of the targets? He doesn’t look anything like them, and he’s clearly WAY older than either of them. They are obviously just making up at this point. PBS tried to get to the bottom of this, and discovered:

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Thao's son, Chris Thao, said ICE agents stopped him while he was driving to work before they went to detain his father. He said he was driving a car he borrowed from his cousin's boyfriend. Court records show that the boyfriend shares the first name of another Asian man who has been convicted of a sex offense. Chris Thao said the two people are not the same.

They mistook his son for somebody with the same first name because he borrowed a car. Again, a judicial warrant would have name and address. So there’s no way they had one. And DHS is still sticking with their story despite the news media figuring out they screwed up names. There is a VERY good reason breaking down doors isn’t allowed without a very specific warrant from a judge.

As for the female detainee, the basic facts stand: a U.S. citizen was detained with no reason given by ICE for the detention and released without charges. She had to go to the hospital due to something that happened to her while in custody, reportedly a seizure. The inconsistent bit of the story seemed to be that she was thrown to the ground, of which there is no evidence. Glad we found multiple sources and cleared up that. But it was still an unlawful detention of a U.S. citizen by immigration authorities.

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4 hours ago, dogcows said:

This is NOT about removing criminals, or even undocumented immigrants. 

de·lu·sion·al

/dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/

adjective

 

1. characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, as a symptom of serious mental illness.

 

Apparently in your world, the following, which was the 1st post in this thread, didn't happen ?

 

According to DHS, the 11 illegal aliens have been convicted for crimes that include first-degree criminal sexual assault, first-degree sexual abuse of a minor, first-degree criminal sexual conduct, and other sex crimes. All 11 individuals are Laotian or Thai.

Diversity is our strength

https://alphanews.org/11-illegal-alien-sex-offenders-arrested-in-minneapolis-dhs-says/

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On 7/10/2025 at 1:18 AM, weepaws said:

And yet, trump not only walks free, but stupid people voted the criminal into office as president. Shame. 

I see you’re still stupid 

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12 minutes ago, dogcows said:

They didn’t have a warrant. Going in was therefore illegal. Any agents with proper training would know that. So… either they didn’t get the proper training or they didn’t care and went in anyway. Either one is bad news.
Then the DHS “cover story” seems even worse to me. According to DHS “"The US citizen lives with these two convicted sex offenders at the site of the operation," DHS said. "The individual refused to be fingerprinted or facially ID'd. He matched the description of the targets."”

 

He matched the description of the targets? He doesn’t look anything like them, and he’s clearly WAY older than either of them. They are obviously just making up at this point. PBS tried to get to the bottom of this, and discovered:

They mistook his son for somebody with the same first name because he borrowed a car. Again, a judicial warrant would have name and address. So there’s no way they had one. And DHS is still sticking with their story despite the news media figuring out they screwed up names. There is a VERY good reason breaking down doors isn’t allowed without a very specific warrant from a judge.

As for the female detainee, the basic facts stand: a U.S. citizen was detained with no reason given by ICE for the detention and released without charges. She had to go to the hospital due to something that happened to her while in custody, reportedly a seizure. The inconsistent bit of the story seemed to be that she was thrown to the ground, of which there is no evidence. Glad we found multiple sources and cleared up that. But it was still an unlawful detention of a U.S. citizen by immigration authorities.

#Josh_Allen_Is_A_Pvssy

The Justice Department has sent subpoenas to Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey and other state leaders, escalating its investigation into whether state officials conspired to impede law enforcement during the Trump administration’s immigration operations, according to a document reviewed by NBC News and a person familiar with the investigation.

The subpoenas were also sent to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, the office of St. Paul Mayor Kaohly Her and two counties, according to the document and the person familiar with the probe.