TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 01:16 AM This is crazy.  Makes me think of @RLLD in particular who thought the economy went from the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime to pretty great in a few months.  In reality, centrists such as myself realize it’s basically the same.   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,600 Posted Tuesday at 01:18 AM Independents at 25%. Woof. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 01:22 AM 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Independents at 25%. Woof. But have basically been in the same ballpark for ~20 years, and right now is higher than Biden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,600 Posted Tuesday at 01:27 AM 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But have basically been in the same ballpark for ~20 years, and right now is higher than Biden Still dreadful. MAGAs will say the poll is biased against Daddy though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 02:27 PM 0% can only be explained by an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,595 Posted Tuesday at 02:29 PM That poll is very promising for the future. Independents are in the ballpark of where they were in Trump's first term and higher than Biden. Biden's administration is even too far to the right than the current pace of the left. At this current point in time, Vance seems to be a lock in 2028 because the left is only going to keep moving further left and the Independent's have shown that they will not go there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 02:33 PM 2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Trump has pulled us from the precipice of extinction as a nation Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,430 Posted Tuesday at 02:36 PM Those who have and were willing to work to have are living their best lives. Those who are unhappy, well you must not have worked hard enough or haven't worked long enough to enjoy the good times. Life isn't focking a free gift handed to you. Put in a smidge of effort and things are great. It's like I told my boys, you dont start out mowing the grass on a cushy riding mower. You push just like everyone else before you.  Or blame the President. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,971 Posted Tuesday at 02:58 PM 30 minutes ago, jerryskids said: 0% can only be explained by an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. Brainless cult.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,216 Posted Tuesday at 03:11 PM 13 hours ago, TimHauck said: This is crazy.  Makes me think of @RLLD in particular who thought the economy went from the worst of the lower classes’ lifetime to pretty great in a few months.  In reality, centrists such as myself realize it’s basically the same.   You are NOT a centrist. You idiot liberals are allergic to the truth in life.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,694 Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM 46 minutes ago, jerryskids said: 0% can only be explained by an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. Was watching this documentary on Hells Angels. Dude had his girlfriend and her 2 twin daughters (under 6 years old murdered) for testifying against him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,320 Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM 51 minutes ago, jerryskids said: 0% can only be explained by an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. In other words, 100% of Democrats are "an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells." Congrats, Jerry! You've finally gotten there! Full buy-in! good job, waytago! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted Tuesday at 03:32 PM 11 minutes ago, Fnord said: In other words, 100% of Democrats are "an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells." Congrats, Jerry! You've finally gotten there! Full buy-in! good job, waytago! Wooosh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 03:38 PM 17 minutes ago, Fnord said: In other words, 100% of Democrats are "an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells." Congrats, Jerry! You've finally gotten there! Full buy-in! good job, waytago! Wut? I didn't make the poll.  Think hard about this: you are saying I've fully bought in because 0% of your side is satisfied.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,265 Posted Tuesday at 03:40 PM 28 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: You are NOT a centrist. You idiot liberals are allergic to the truth in life.. He is nowhere NEAR center despite all his claims. This is absurd that he's even bringing it up. He should just own is leftism FFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,758 Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM 19 minutes ago, Fnord said: In other words, 100% of Democrats are "an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells." Congrats, Jerry! You've finally gotten there! Full buy-in! good job, waytago! So Jerry thinks that if you're not satisfied with the way things are going, you are an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM 1 hour ago, Alias Detective said: Those who have and were willing to work to have are living their best lives. Those who are unhappy, well you must not have worked hard enough or haven't worked long enough to enjoy the good times. Life isn't focking a free gift handed to you. Put in a smidge of effort and things are great. It's like I told my boys, you dont start out mowing the grass on a cushy riding mower. You push just like everyone else before you.  Or blame the President. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha Of course it’s much easier for a kid to mow lawns if they live in a neighborhood full of houses with lawns, and not in an apartment complex. Privilege.  It exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,320 Posted Tuesday at 03:46 PM Just now, jerryskids said: Wut? I didn't make the poll.  Think hard about this: you are saying I've fully bought in because 0% of your side is dissatisfied.  I think this is another in an endless parade of examples of mostly reasonable, intelligent people deciding suddenly that literally every single person that disagrees with them (about pretty much anything) or identifies as something they don't agree with (trans, homosexual, democrat) is an absolute moron with zero ability to think for themselves. I despise Trump and most of what MAGA stands for, but you're never going to read a post from me saying that every Republican/R voter is "an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells." Not so long ago, you would have had a problem with it, too. But here we are. That's what I'm talking about, not the poll. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 03:48 PM 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: He is nowhere NEAR center despite all his claims. This is absurd that he's even bringing it up. He should just own is leftism FFS. Actually speaking of centrists, one thing I found interesting about the chart is that since about 2012, the independents on the chart have generally been happier when a Republican was President.  I’m sure you’ll say that’s because the Republican President is better, but maybe some of those people aren’t really centrists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,430 Posted Tuesday at 03:52 PM 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Of course it’s much easier for a kid to mow lawns if they live in a neighborhood full of houses with lawns, and not in an apartment complex. Privilege.  It exists. I said what I said. Keep making excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,971 Posted Tuesday at 04:03 PM This thread is a complete self own for the OP. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,600 Posted Tuesday at 04:06 PM Obama’s approval among Republicans when he left office was 14%. I bet he could’ve gotten that down to zero if he raised prices, took bribes from Qatar, ran a bitcoin grift from the Oval Office, hid his connections to a child sex trafficking ring, etc.  1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted Tuesday at 04:43 PM 58 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So Jerry thinks that if you're not satisfied with the way things are going, you are an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. Wow. Wooosh x2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM 19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Wooosh x2 They're not very smart. 0%. It's Jerry's fault!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,596 Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: They're not very smart. 0%. It's Jerry's fault!  You trigger them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 05:14 PM 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. True, especially if you tell them the IDF did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,758 Posted Tuesday at 05:24 PM I guess 24% of Republicans are an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,957 Posted Tuesday at 05:32 PM R3tards. Everything cost 2x as much. We just passed the largest bill ever. We are about to crazy print once interest rates start to drop. There was a thread here during the 20 teens about hyper inflation. I wish that thread was still around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,340 Posted Tuesday at 05:33 PM 2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: 0% can only be explained by an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells. 0%. You would get higher than that if you asked if murdering innocent babies is bad. Brainless cult.  Was at a whopping 3-5% during Biden’s run. Suddenly is amazing by one side and awful for other. That was kind of the point of the OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,758 Posted Tuesday at 05:41 PM 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Was at a whopping 3-5% during Biden’s run. Suddenly is amazing by one side and awful for other. That was kind of the point of the OP. I don't think the "suddenly awful v amazing" is fair. The options are satisfied or unsatisfied. A year ago I was unsatisfied, am still unsatisfied. But I can see how someone would be satisified and after 6 months of Trump BS could easily move to unsatisfied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted Tuesday at 05:48 PM I would say the biggest evidence of partisanship among Republicans in particular would be around 2008 and then the Obama years.  They actually think Obama’s second term was worse than the start of the financial crisis, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 06:00 PM 35 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I guess 24% of Republicans are an utter and complete mindless lemming gaslit collection of vapid human shells.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,340 Posted Tuesday at 06:01 PM 18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I don't think the "suddenly awful v amazing" is fair. The options are satisfied or unsatisfied. A year ago I was unsatisfied, am still unsatisfied. But I can see how someone would be satisified and after 6 months of Trump BS could easily move to unsatisfied. That’s fair. But for it to flip like this on a dime is a bit much. It’s certainly not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,320 Posted Tuesday at 06:04 PM 59 minutes ago, jerryskids said: They're not very smart. 0%. It's Jerry's fault!  Onto the gaslighting, huh? What is Jerry's fault is how Jerry thinks and posts. Or do I get to blame Trump for that, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Just now, Fnord said: Onto the gaslighting, huh? What is Jerry's fault is how Jerry thinks and posts. Or do I get to blame Trump for that, too? What I posted is the obvious, and you are either too obtuse or too gaslit to get my point. Of course, you are one of the Lefties who deludes himself that whacko positions on the Left are just fringe crazies, not mainstream. Yet 0% of Dems are satisfied. None. Nada. That just seems statistically unpossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,320 Posted Tuesday at 06:27 PM 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: What I posted is the obvious, and you are either too obtuse or too gaslit to get my point. Of course, you are one of the Lefties who deludes himself that whacko positions on the Left are just fringe crazies, not mainstream. Yet 0% of Dems are satisfied. None. Nada. That just seems statistically unpossible. I disagree. I am dissatisfied, extremely so, and I'm not a dem. Perhaps, and just humor me here, Dems (among many others) are just paying attention to what's going on and hate it? Where you see illegals deported, I see it being done via un-American tactics. Where you see "judicial overreach" I see a POTUS that thinks his word is law. Where you see Trump "telling it like it is" I see an authoritarian trying, out in the open, to convince his voters that authoritarianism, under him, is appropriate via dehumanizing labels and speech. Where you see the "truth" being reported, I see the truth being covered up. I just bought a house for my dad so he has a safe place nearby to spend his twilight years, so I've been spending more time with him recently. He's bright red Republican, but not necessarily MAGA. I see what he considers "news." It's a sad joke. He's grossly uninformed, mostly has no idea what is going on, and flat refuses to listen to anything negative that I bring up to him. He seems representative of most righties that think they're paying attention. He was LIVID the day after J6. Now it's "no big deal." This is what many of the right's chosen information sources have done. You won't agree, and that's fine. But it's pretty clear to me that many of y'all just refuse to see what is going on. The truly sad thing is that if Obama or Biden had done any of the same crap, most of the same crew hailing this loser as "FATHER" would be ready to grab a rifle and hit the streets in protest. The big difference is that I'd join them, not accuse them of BDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 07:21 PM 44 minutes ago, Fnord said: I disagree. I am dissatisfied, extremely so, and I'm not a dem. Perhaps, and just humor me here, Dems (among many others) are just paying attention to what's going on and hate it? Where you see illegals deported, I see it being done via un-American tactics. Where you see "judicial overreach" I see a POTUS that thinks his word is law. Where you see Trump "telling it like it is" I see an authoritarian trying, out in the open, to convince his voters that authoritarianism, under him, is appropriate via dehumanizing labels and speech. Where you see the "truth" being reported, I see the truth being covered up. I just bought a house for my dad so he has a safe place nearby to spend his twilight years, so I've been spending more time with him recently. He's bright red Republican, but not necessarily MAGA. I see what he considers "news." It's a sad joke. He's grossly uninformed, mostly has no idea what is going on, and flat refuses to listen to anything negative that I bring up to him. He seems representative of most righties that think they're paying attention. He was LIVID the day after J6. Now it's "no big deal." This is what many of the right's chosen information sources have done. You won't agree, and that's fine. But it's pretty clear to me that many of y'all just refuse to see what is going on. The truly sad thing is that if Obama or Biden had done any of the same crap, most of the same crew hailing this loser as "FATHER" would be ready to grab a rifle and hit the streets in protest. The big difference is that I'd join them, not accuse them of BDS. I appreciate the post. Im not saying there aren't valid reasons to be dissatisfied, in general or with Trump, although the question didn't mention Trump. I'm saying zero. You can't get 100% of a people to say the earth is round, or revolves around the sun. Nobody got a new job, or promotion? Married the love of their life, or had their first child? Retired early, investments doing well? Zero is statistically impossible without significant group think. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,939 Posted Tuesday at 07:23 PM Technically, the earth is slightly oblong because of the moon's gravitational pull. But not many people know that. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,758 Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: That’s fair. But for it to flip like this on a dime is a bit much. It’s certainly not good. Well, Trump flipped everything on a dime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites