porkbutt 861 Posted March 30, 2015 focking liberals are up in arms...they want to ban travel to indiana and cancel the tourney :lol: what say you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 It's a new world we live in. People can do business with who they want. If they don't want to patronize Indiana, that's their choice. The folks in Indy should have thought this out more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted March 30, 2015 The effects of the law are being very overstated. You know there's going to be calls for boycotts of any business that refuses to serve gheys, so I seriously doubt any large business is going to utilize the law. And, for the record, I have no problem with the law. I don't believe a small business owner should be shut down (pretty much the effects of a discrimination suit) because they refuse to abet what they view is a sin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted March 30, 2015 Vikings4ever, on 30 Mar 2015 - 2:59 PM, said: The effects of the law are being very overstated. You know there's going to be calls for boycotts of any business that refuses to serve gheys, so I seriously doubt any large business is going to utilize the law. And, for the record, I have no problem with the law. I don't believe a small business owner should be shut down (pretty much the effects of a discrimination suit) because they refuse to abet what they view is a sin. I view stupid people as a sin. Can I refuse to serve them? What about blacks? Women? Bald guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted March 30, 2015 I view stupid people as a sin. Can I refuse to serve them? What about blacks? Women? Bald guys? Yes. No (federal law). No (federal law). Yes. Although, as asinine as I find the belief, I would support legalizing 2 and 3. There's a thousand ways you can legally discriminate. There's only a handful of exceptions that have been carved out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 30, 2015 I view stupid people as a sin. You would be the debbil. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted March 30, 2015 It's a new world we live in. People can do business with who they want. If they don't want to patronize Indiana, that's their choice. The folks in Indy should have thought this out more. huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,335 Posted March 30, 2015 The interstate backlash to Indiana's new religious freedom law is growing even as state lawmakers move to clarify the legislation, with Seattle Mayor Ed Murray vowing to issue an executive order this week banning city workers from taxpayer-funded travel to the state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted March 30, 2015 They are worried about conservative activist judges setting precedent... Right now the states that have these laws also have precedent that prevents discrimination, but the Indiana law allow it specifically to be a defense in a civil rights suit. And it would only take a radical judge to tip the slippery slope into full on discrimination.. practically speaking its probably a low likelihood, but the outrage is well founded... This is why i hate republicans... they just can stop themselves from throwing up on themselves with this social BS... leave it alone. Your religion doesn't give you the right to abuse people. keep it to yourself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 Take your bible to church and the constitution to the ballot box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted March 30, 2015 Why would a gay person even want to give their hard earned money to someone that is not accepting of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted March 30, 2015 The effects of the law are being very overstated. You know there's going to be calls for boycotts of any business that refuses to serve gheys, so I seriously doubt any large business is going to utilize the law. And, for the record, I have no problem with the law. I don't believe a small business owner should be shut down (pretty much the effects of a discrimination suit) because they refuse to abet what they view is a sin. I think businesses should be able to do pretty much what they want and let the market sort it out. That said, the whole "abetting a sin" idea is just so much sophistry, just like gay marriage being an afront to the sanctity of marriage, or whatever focking BS they like to spin. In most cases, whatever service the company might offer is going to have no relation to the "sin". It's just an excuse to marginalize people whose lifestyles they don't care for. I'm all for it though. More business for those of us who don't discriminate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted March 30, 2015 In keeping with the new legislative process, I think they must pass this first to find out if there are repercussions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted March 30, 2015 Why would a gay person even want to give their hard earned money to someone that is not accepting of them? That is your defense of this? Maybe they have good food? Why should anyone be ok with with holding services from someone because they are the ghey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 Don't serve the gays, fine. Then Don't get mad when you get boycotted, which Indiana is in the process of finding out. Smart businesses try to attract customers, not exclude them. I hope they enjoy this final four, the super bowl they had, the nfl scouting combine they used to have, and no good concerts in their state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 What would happen if a gay doctor decided to stop treating backwards rednecks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 30, 2015 nerve hit alert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted March 30, 2015 What would happen if a gay doctor decided to stop treating backwards rednecks? They could turn frontwards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 nerve hit alert! Cliche response alert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted March 30, 2015 Conn. Governer just banned travel from Conn. to Indiana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted March 30, 2015 Conn. Governer just banned travel from Conn. to Indiana. Yes. I'm sure this happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 Conn. Governer just banned travel from Conn. to Indiana. Yup. Some guy in Hartford can't go see his sick granny in Columbus. Larry Bird is stuck in Stamford trying to get back to French Lick and Mellencamp is going to set up shop in Mohegan sun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted March 30, 2015 When Jesus met a prostitute (Mary Magdalene) did he show his religious freedom by discriminating against her? Jesus showed repeatedly throughout the bible that he always took the high road when confronted with people that did not meet his ideals. It is funny that the religious freedom law goes against everything that Jesus taught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted March 30, 2015 When Jesus met a prostitute (Mary Magdalene) did he show his religious freedom by discriminating against her? no but did he tell her to go keep being a whoore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted March 30, 2015 do you want an old lady bakery owner to lose her business and be sued over having to make a shaped cake against her conscience? some intolerant liberals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted March 30, 2015 "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ". Mahatma Gandhi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted March 30, 2015 do you want an old lady bakery owner to lose her business and be sued over having to make a ###### shaped cake against her conscience? some intolerant liberals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 30, 2015 When Jesus met a prostitute (Mary Magdalene) did he show his religious freedom by discriminating against her? Jesus showed repeatedly throughout the bible that he always took the high road when confronted with people that did not meet his ideals. It is funny that the religious freedom law goes against everything that Jesus taught. Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "freedom". Religious people are free to do business with these folks, and they are free to refuse their business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted March 30, 2015 Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "freedom". Religious people are free to do business with these folks, and they are free to refuse their business. But they were allowed to do business before the only additional "benefit" of this law is allowing discrimination. Another example is Jesus sharing a cup of water with the Samaritan woman, even though Jew's looked down on Samaritan's. This law would allow the exact opposite of what Jesus preached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 30, 2015 And people are free to boycott. No issue here as far as I'm concerned. The law was passed legally, now deal with the reaction and don't cry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 30, 2015 But they were allowed to do business before the only additional "benefit" of this law is allowing discrimination. Another example is Jesus sharing a cup of water with the Samaritan woman, even though Jew's looked down on Samaritan's. This law would allow the exact opposite of what Jesus preached. No, now the law allows religious freedom to not be infringed upon by the Govt. Something explicitly protected by the First Amendment. But your position that laws in the US should be based on Jesus and his teachings is duly noted. Not sure how that follows the Constitution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,206 Posted March 30, 2015 Anyone have a link to the actual law? I'd like to read it before responding to the media reaction to it. TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted March 30, 2015 That is your defense of this? Maybe they have good food? Why should anyone be ok with with holding services from someone because they are the ghey? Didn't defend shiot buttercup. Simply asked a question. There's more than one way to solve a problem and doing so with your money seems to work quite well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted March 30, 2015 Christians are just getting harder and harder to defend everyday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted March 30, 2015 Christians are just getting harder and harder to defend everyday. Same could be said about all religions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 30, 2015 Seems I recall a few years ago there was outrage and a huuuuuuuuuuuge uproar over the owner of Chic fil a espousing and sticking to his religious beliefs. Mass boycotts announced. How did that work out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted March 30, 2015 Boycotts are a violation of a business owner's first amendment rights. Also I won't be satisfied until police, doctors, teachers etc. all have the right to refuse service due to their religious beliefs. Repubtard logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted March 31, 2015 Same could be said about all religions. I don't disagree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted March 31, 2015 They are worried about conservative activist judges setting precedent... Right now the states that have these laws also have precedent that prevents discrimination, but the Indiana law allow it specifically to be a defense in a civil rights suit. And it would only take a radical judge to tip the slippery slope into full on discrimination.. practically speaking its probably a low likelihood, but the outrage is well founded... This is why i hate republicans... they just can stop themselves from throwing up on themselves with this social BS... leave it alone. Your religion doesn't give you the right to abuse people. keep it to yourself. Were you just as outraged at Chuckie Shumer for proposing, and Bill Clinton for signing, the "Religous Freedom Resoration Act" in 1993? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 190 Posted March 31, 2015 Seems I recall a few years ago there was outrage and a huuuuuuuuuuuge uproar over the owner of Chic fil a espousing and sticking to his religious beliefs. Mass boycotts announced. How did that work out? [/ Those are some good sandwiches. I ain't boycotting . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
