track 1 16 Posted August 20, 2015 6pt passing TD last year i took aaron rodgers with the 5th pick overrall and i was very pleased with 25+ points a week. i know i'll be scrambling for WR's and Rbs because it won't snake around to me i hate having top 4 picks in fantasy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,814 Posted August 20, 2015 Cool story bro... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted August 20, 2015 I'd go top 2 RB or Brown before I'd ever go QB. There's several other QBs that will average 20 ppg. About 6-7 who can probably average at least 22/23 ppg. But like the dude above me said, good luck....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 20, 2015 You go bro. I have 6pnt td, 300yd bonus and 50yd td bonus. You best believe I'm taking Luck or Rodgers nomatter where I draft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragan187 7 Posted August 20, 2015 You go bro. I have 6pnt td, 300yd bonus and 50yd td bonus. You best believe I'm taking Luck or Rodgers nomatter where I draft. My league is set up the same way..........Im still going with Bell with my #1 pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted August 20, 2015 You are going to need a lot of Luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted August 20, 2015 But aren't all QBs 6pt TDs ?, so why jump on them early, there will still be plenty of QBs to go around. The difference between #1 and #10 is the SAME in 6pt/TD or 4pt/TD. You're falling into a trap, but my post is going to help you get out. Your welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 20, 2015 But aren't all QBs 6pt TDs ?, so why jump on them early, there will still be plenty of QBs to go around. The difference between #1 and #10 is the SAME in 6pt/TD or 4pt/TD. You're falling into a trap, but my post is going to help you get out. Your welcome. Lol. You need more math there buddy. Say Luck throws 40 tds. 4 pt league = 160 pnts 6 pt league = 240 pnts Say big ben throws 30 tds 4 pt league = 120 pnts 6 pt league = 180 The difference in 4 pt league is 40 pts. The difference in 6 pt league is 60 pts. 6 pt per pass td league favors qbs who throw more tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 20, 2015 Iv decided Rodgers is my top qb over Luck. id rather have a guy whos a near lock for top 2 qb status vs paying for a guys best year where he far exceeded his best td total. So he may throw 2 tds less, big deal, if your throwing value out the window and taking a qb that high, go as safe as possible and thats Rodgers. On a completely unrelated note, I am a packers fan...If I take Rodgers in rnd 1, wich I plan on doing depending where I draft, the room will explode in laughter. I will then flip the bird to everyone. Its not a homer pick. Ill even take Jordy in rnd 2 if he comes to me, wich is also not a homer pick. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mustard Lover 3 Posted August 20, 2015 I'd go top 2 RB or Brown before I'd ever go QB. There's several other QBs that will average 20 ppg. About 6-7 who can probably average at least 22/23 ppg. But like the dude above me said, good luck....? Luck or Rodgers getting you 24+ points per week is not the same as a another guy who averages 20/wk because he blew up a few weeks but really gave you a bunch of 15 - 18 point weeks. That's the problem with averaging out points production, it doesn't paint the whole picture. Would you have said you'd take Brown over Luck or Rodgers any other year than 2015, seems trendy to me, but it probably has to do with league scoring differences. If you're accustomed to 6Pt Passing TD's, this is perfectly normal. Including the possibility that he starts a QB run, he should be fine. I've been in a 10 team league with 6pt TD's for QB, an OP where you can flex a QB and yardage bonus points across all positions for 10 years now. I've been the 1st to draft a QB and the last sometimes, having success at both strategies. Most important thing to do is take the draft to your opponents before they take it to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 20, 2015 Luck or Rodgers getting you 24+ points per week is not the same as a another guy who averages 20/wk because he blew up a few weeks but really gave you a bunch of 15 - 18 point weeks. That's the problem with averaging out points production, it doesn't paint the whole picture. Agree. Big Ben had like 8 games where he threw 1 or 0 tds last year. Year end averages lie a whole lot. LAcy killed my season with his slow start. Miller needed 176yds in the last game to finish as high as he did. Things like that matter in season but we toss them out end of season. Id rather take the qb who averages 20 a game by actually scoring 20pnts a game. Not the qb who gave me 10 one week and 30 another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted August 20, 2015 Lol. You need more math there buddy. Say Luck throws 40 tds. 4 pt league = 160 pnts 6 pt league = 240 pnts Say big ben throws 30 tds 4 pt league = 120 pnts 6 pt league = 180 The difference in 4 pt league is 40 pts. The difference in 6 pt league is 60 pts. 6 pt per pass td league favors qbs who throw more tds. Exactly, a 20point difference is nothing.......that's about 1 point/ week over a 16 week season. My point was it doesn't matter how many points a QB gets, because they ALL get it. There are enough QBs to go around, they will go earlier in a 6pt/TD draft over 4pt/TD.....but my drafting strategy would NOT change to have me take a QB 1st overall. We rarely see QBs go until the 2nd round in our 4pt/TD format. My buddies 6pt/TD....maybe 1 or 2 in the first round, NEVER top 5 picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 21, 2015 Have a hard time taking a qb early and it doesn't matter if it's a six point passing to or four because the difference in scoring avg between number one scoring qb and let's say number twelve is closer than it is with wr or rb . Unless It's a two qb league than I might go Luck or Rodgers . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 21, 2015 Exactly, a 20point difference is nothing.......that's about 1 point/ week over a 16 week season. My point was it doesn't matter how many points a QB gets, because they ALL get it. There are enough QBs to go around, they will go earlier in a 6pt/TD draft over 4pt/TD.....but my drafting strategy would NOT change to have me take a QB 1st overall. We rarely see QBs go until the 2nd round in our 4pt/TD format. My buddies 6pt/TD....maybe 1 or 2 in the first round, NEVER top 5 picks. Thats so awesome. Fun fact, qbs are less risky than rbs. So if you want a nice safe pick who is going to score a lot of points each week and has an even bigger advantage over other players at his position, qb is your guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 21, 2015 Have a hard time taking a qb early and it doesn't matter if it's a six point passing to or four because the difference in scoring avg between number one scoring qb and let's say number twelve is closer than it is with wr or rb . Unless It's a two qb league than I might go Luck or Rodgers . Yea it has to be a calculated decision. The whole value, 1st and 12th arent that different argument is all nice and roses and dandy if you actually pick right. How did waiting on a qb work out for guys thinking they were getting that "similar to the top value" With Kaep, Cam and Dalton last year? Its always nice in theory, just like taking a stud RB, but like that stud rb, if the qb has a down year your in trouble. There are no down years for Rodgers, you get what you pay for wich is hard to do in FF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 132 Posted August 21, 2015 I like it, as nuts pointed out, you are putting yourself quite a bit ahead of competition by going this route. Hell... in my league we don't have 6pt pass TDs, but we do have 3 bonus pts for 300+ yard games... you would be surprised how many times the avg QB doesn't throw over 300 yds... QBs like luck and rodgers are at a premium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dschddny 0 Posted August 21, 2015 Iv decided Rodgers is my top qb over Luck. id rather have a guy whos a near lock for top 2 qb status vs paying for a guys best year where he far exceeded his best td total. So he may throw 2 tds less, big deal, if your throwing value out the window and taking a qb that high, go as safe as possible and thats Rodgers. On a completely unrelated note, I am a packers fan...If I take Rodgers in rnd 1, wich I plan on doing depending where I draft, the room will explode in laughter. I will then flip the bird to everyone. Its not a homer pick. Ill even take Jordy in rnd 2 if he comes to me, wich is also not a homer pick. You should also take Cobb in the 4th, Ahman Green in the 5th, Sterling Sharpe in the 6th, and Lynn Dickey in the 7th, insisting these are not homer picks the whole way!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 21, 2015 You should also take Cobb in the 4th, Ahman Green in the 5th, Sterling Sharpe in the 6th, and Lynn Dickey in the 7th, insisting these are not homer picks the whole way!!!! Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted August 21, 2015 Ok. He was referring to David Cobb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 21, 2015 He was referring to David Cobb He was obviously listing packers. He means Randall Cobb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted August 21, 2015 He was obviously listing packers. He means Randall Cobb. Poor attempt at humor on my part, apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 21, 2015 Poor attempt at humor on my part, apparently. Ha yea my bad, i figured it was 50/50 you were being sarcastic but just copuldnt tell. Gotta include the eye rolly emote brah.. Fuggedahboutit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted August 21, 2015 Ha yea my bad, i figured it was 50/50 you were being sarcastic but just copuldnt tell. Gotta include the eye rolly emote brah.. Fuggedahboutit Heck, one more horrible preseason game by Sankey, and David Cobb may be up in the 4th round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted August 23, 2015 Iv decided Rodgers is my top qb over Luck. id rather have a guy whos a near lock for top 2 qb status vs paying for a guys best year where he far exceeded his best td total. So he may throw 2 tds less, big deal, if your throwing value out the window and taking a qb that high, go as safe as possible and thats Rodgers. On a completely unrelated note, I am a packers fan...If I take Rodgers in rnd 1, wich I plan on doing depending where I draft, the room will explode in laughter. I will then flip the bird to everyone. Its not a homer pick. Ill even take Jordy in rnd 2 if he comes to me, wich is also not a homer pick. Luck is too young for that interpretation. He slightly out performed Rodgers last year and has much better weapons this season (Johnson, Dorsett, Allen, a more experienced Moncrief). Take Rodgers if you're a Packer fan. You probably can't go wrong with either one (they'll finish #1 & #2). Personally, I think Luck is the play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murf74 461 Posted August 23, 2015 Sure every qb gets 6pts but it makes the stud qb even more valuable. You can win week to week with ave rbs and a luck or Rodgers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 23, 2015 I was all on board with this. I was picking 4th overall so i decided yeah, i want me a stud qb. And then Luck went first overall followed by Rodgers... well there goes that plan. Then AP was drafted and mother effing Leveon Bell is staring me right in the grill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaxjag 43 Posted August 24, 2015 I was all on board with this. I was picking 4th overall so i decided yeah, i want me a stud qb. And then Luck went first overall followed by Rodgers... well there goes that plan. Then AP was drafted and mother effing Leveon Bell is staring me right in the grill. I hope you took Bell... Sounds a lot better than Rodgers & Nelson with your first two picks tonight... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 24, 2015 I hope you took Bell... Sounds a lot better than Rodgers & Nelson with your first two picks tonight... Yeah i took Bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted August 24, 2015 I would normally never take a QB early but in the league I just drafted in Saturday I took Luck 3rd overall. I honestly expected Luck or Rodgers to be taken already but I think I got lucky. Here is the scoring for QBs: 1 point per 12.5 yards passing 6 point TDs 2 points for TDs over 40 yards 10 points for passing over 400 yards 17 player rosters starting 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1 K and 1 D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 24, 2015 I would normally never take a QB early but in the league I just drafted in Saturday I took Luck 3rd overall. I honestly expected Luck or Rodgers to be taken already but I think I got lucky. Here is the scoring for QBs: 1 point per 12.5 yards passing 6 point TDs 2 points for TDs over 40 yards 10 points for passing over 400 yards 17 player rosters starting 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1 K and 1 D How he didnt go first or second overall is a windfall for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 24, 2015 With that scoring system Luck and Rodgers should have been taken with the first and second pick and maybe a few other qb should have gone on the first round also . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted August 24, 2015 The scoring for other positions is higher too I should add. RBs 1 point for every 5 yards rushing/receiving 2 points for TDs over 40 yards 10 points for rushing over 200 yards 1 PPR WRs/TEs 1 point for every 5 yards receiving/rushing 2 points for TDs over 40 yards 10 points for over 200 receiving yards 1 PPR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted August 25, 2015 dam what are your avg scores, in the 500s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purplengold47 27 Posted August 25, 2015 I got him no. 15 overall, 10team non ppr 6pt td, I was torn between demarius and luck but ultimately decided on a safer pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 25, 2015 Hard to beat taking Luck in a league that' you score 6 pt passing tds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purplengold47 27 Posted August 26, 2015 yeah, surprised to see Rodgers at no 10 pick then 13th goes to Peyton Manning, the guy was our lone rookie and a homer, really glad about that hehe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted August 26, 2015 Iv decided Rodgers is my top qb over Luck. Still think that way now that Jordy Nelson is out for the season? My league also gives monster points for QB's, so they fly off the board early. And with my #2 pick, I'm praying for Luck. Rogers doesn't rack up quite as much yardage or completions as other top QBs. He usually makes up for the difference in TD's, which might not be quite as reliable. I also fear the dreaded winter Green Bay home games late in the season when I'm in the playoffs and Rodgers is potentially playing in a blizzard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,854 Posted August 26, 2015 dam what are your avg scores, in the 500s? This is my first year in the league but looking at their past years it looks like low scores are around 180 and high scores are close to 400. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites