Vtfanatic 0 Posted August 25, 2018 Murray looked much more explosive. I am now concerned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted August 25, 2018 What happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584 Posted August 25, 2018 yep, the people talking about Cook in the 1st round are insane people mentioning him with Gordon, Fournette, Kamara Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 25, 2018 One preseason game shouldn't typically change rankings that drastically. I thought he was way too damn risky to take anywhere near the top 2 rounds. Murray has always been a solid back, so people who thought he was terrible were definitely off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxxdog 23 Posted August 25, 2018 Cook had a only a couple plays, crazy to jump to a conclusion on a talented player that got eased back into minor game action...I only wish I had FF owners in my league ready give up on a player after 2 or 3 non-productive plays maybe even ready to trade-away.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 25, 2018 He’s worthy of a rb2. I think he will have a very good season, and l Murray will be a good back up all season long. I think D Cook could and will post top ten rb non ppr ff points it’s season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpenceToons 70 Posted August 25, 2018 Royce Freeman's other 4 carries went for a total of 2 yards but that's not what folks are emphasizing about him tonight Perhaps if Cook had been given a few more plays, he would have flashed a little of what we've come to expect from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted August 25, 2018 I'm worried about my 11th pick in non-PPR/TD heavy. It isn't pretty if the RBs I have to choose from at 2.02 are Cook/Howard/Freeman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 25, 2018 I'm worried about my 11th pick in non-PPR/TD heavy. It isn't pretty if the RBs I have to choose from at 2.02 are Cook/Howard/Freeman. Nothing wrong with Howard. Do you mean Devonta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted August 25, 2018 Nothing wrong with Howard. Do you mean Devonta? I don't mind Howard, but I consider him a noticeable drop off of guys like Gordon/Fournette/Barkley/Hunt, so it sucks to pick at the top of round 2 and only get that. Feels very disadvantageous considering the wait until my third. And yeah, talking Devonta (who I like even less at that spot in non-PPR). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 25, 2018 I don't mind Howard, but I consider him a noticeable drop off of guys like Gordon/Fournette/Barkley/Hunt, so it sucks to pick at the top of round 2 and only get that. Feels very disadvantageous considering the wait until my third. And yeah, talking Devonta (who I like even less at that spot in non-PPR). How many receivers do you expect to be off the board by your 2nd pick? You are probably still looking at two of Gordon, Howard, Hunt, and McCaffrey. That's an advantage to have two potentially strong rbs over the top guys. Also, I would not like non ppr in a 12 teamer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,038 Posted August 25, 2018 It takes awhile to get used to game speed. Plus there's the psychological aspect of cutting on the repaired knee. He needs to get hit a few times and see it hold up before he'll trust it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 986 Posted August 25, 2018 Murray fumbled twice in the first quarter of last week's preseason game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted August 25, 2018 How many receivers do you expect to be off the board by your 2nd pick? You are probably still looking at two of Gordon, Howard, Hunt, and McCaffrey. That's an advantage to have two potentially strong rbs over the top guys. Also, I would not like non ppr in a 12 teamer My guess going into 1.11 is the following will be on the board: Hunt, Beckham, Jones, Cook, Thomas, Howard Touchdowns are worth 10 points in this league, so you need your RB1 (and preferably your RB2 also) to be the man at the goal line (which is why I'm not big on McCaffrey in that league). If I take Beckham I think the 12th draft spot goes RB-RB leaving Cook or Howard as my RB1. If I go Hunt, I'm probably looking at Julio or Cook with my second pick. I just think the middle of that draft is going to pan out better, as that sets up along the lines of Gordon/Adams, Fournette/Thomas, etc, plus still being in position for a guy like Collins in the third. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 25, 2018 My guess going into 1.11 is the following will be on the board: Hunt, Beckham, Jones, Cook, Thomas, Howard Touchdowns are worth 10 points in this league, so you need your RB1 (and preferably your RB2 also) to be the man at the goal line (which is why I'm not big on McCaffrey in that league). If I take Beckham I think the 12th draft spot goes RB-RB leaving Cook or Howard as my RB1. If I go Hunt, I'm probably looking at Julio or Cook with my second pick. I just think the middle of that draft is going to pan out better, as that sets up along the lines of Gordon/Adams, Fournette/Thomas, etc, plus still being in position for a guy like Collins in the third. Pray Odell is there with that scoring. He has yet to have a non 10td complete season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 582 Posted August 25, 2018 Pray Odell is there with that scoring. He has yet to have a non 10td complete season. If his ass can stay on the field he will be a top 3 WR for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 25, 2018 I traded out of 1.11 with Hunt and Kamara already claimed as keepers. Hunt is mine, and I didn't love who I was having to reach for at 11 or 14. I gave up 11th overall, 14th overall, 6th rounder (62 overall). I got back 2nd overall, 24th overall, 98 overall. I feel good about pairing David Johnson or Gurley with Kareem Hunt and still getting a Baldwin type WR at 24th overall. Draft is in a few hours and this trade came down to the wire before our pre draft trade lock. We will see how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 25, 2018 My guess going into 1.11 is the following will be on the board: Hunt, Beckham, Jones, Cook, Thomas, Howard Touchdowns are worth 10 points in this league, so you need your RB1 (and preferably your RB2 also) to be the man at the goal line (which is why I'm not big on McCaffrey in that league). If I take Beckham I think the 12th draft spot goes RB-RB leaving Cook or Howard as my RB1. If I go Hunt, I'm probably looking at Julio or Cook with my second pick. I just think the middle of that draft is going to pan out better, as that sets up along the lines of Gordon/Adams, Fournette/Thomas, etc, plus still being in position for a guy like Collins in the third. You will be looking at a legit 1st round rb and then Howard in the 2nd most likley. Advantage you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 26, 2018 I'm worried about my 11th pick in non-PPR/TD heavy. It isn't pretty if the RBs I have to choose from at 2.02 are Cook/Howard/Freeman. Would be very happy to pick up Howard as a rb2 in a non ppr league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtimko 2 Posted August 26, 2018 I used to come to this site for research/help. Most posters were fairly knowledgeable. This post proves it's time to move on from the forums. It's PRE-SEASON!!! Means absolutely nothing. Absolutely ridiculous if tonight's game changed your opinion on Cook that much. Go ahead and draft Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard over him... Wish some of you guys were in my league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpenceToons 70 Posted August 26, 2018 I used to come to this site for research/help. Most posters were fairly knowledgeable. This post proves it's time to move on from the forums. It's PRE-SEASON!!! Means absolutely nothing. Absolutely ridiculous if tonight's game changed your opinion on Cook that much. Go ahead and draft Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard over him... Wish some of you guys were in my league. The guy who started the thread has even less posts than you do. Your overreaction in your opinion about the forum is pretty much equivalent to his overreaction in his opinion about Cook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted August 26, 2018 I used to come to this site for research/help. Most posters were fairly knowledgeable. This post proves it's time to move on from the forums. It's PRE-SEASON!!! Means absolutely nothing. Absolutely ridiculous if tonight's game changed your opinion on Cook that much. Go ahead and draft Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard over him... Wish some of you guys were in my league. I would draft Mixon or Howard over him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 26, 2018 The guy who started the thread has even less posts than you do. Your overreaction in your opinion about the forum is pretty much equivalent to his overreaction in his opinion about Cook. Lol wow great post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrG 94 Posted August 26, 2018 We are all guesstimating at this point but I think it will be a 60/40 split w Murray between the tackles. Legit question but especially in ppr leagues Cook should have good numbers and Cousins should spread the ball around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 27, 2018 I used to come to this site for research/help. Most posters were fairly knowledgeable. This post proves it's time to move on from the forums. It's PRE-SEASON!!! Means absolutely nothing. Absolutely ridiculous if tonight's game changed your opinion on Cook that much. Go ahead and draft Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard over him... Wish some of you guys were in my league. pre-season means a lot. can show usage and trends for the plans for players. Personally I have Howard, Cook and Mixon RB 12-14 so really splitting hairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted August 27, 2018 pre-season means a lot. can show usage and trends for the plans for players. Personally I have Howard, Cook and Mixon RB 12-14 so really splitting hairs. Pre-season games only mean a lot to guys trying to make the roster, and keeping starters from getting hurt before the season starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 27, 2018 pre-season means a lot. can show usage and trends for the plans for players . No it doesn’t and no it can’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 27, 2018 pre-season means a lot. can show usage and trends for the plans for players. Personally I have Howard, Cook and Mixon RB 12-14 so really splitting hairs. So what do you think about Gurley. He hasn’t played during the preseason. Thanks for the reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vtfanatic 0 Posted August 27, 2018 I should have been clearer with my original post. I was deciding whether to keep Cook at 31 dollars or DJ at 62 dollars. Both weee coming off injuries. I went with DJ for the certainty. The concern was around Murray eating into Cooks snaps and goal line carries Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 27, 2018 True both will be returning from injuries. But those two injuries couldn’t farther about when it comes to the seriousness of those injuries. Keeping D J would be the smart think to do. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 27, 2018 Pre-season games only mean a lot to guys trying to make the roster, and keeping starters from getting hurt before the season starts. Pre-season gives clues to questions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 27, 2018 No it doesn’t and no it can’t. small thinking. those who see the signs in pre-season have fantasy football advantages over those who dismiss preseason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 27, 2018 So what do you think about Gurley. He hasn’t played during the preseason. Thanks for the reply. Were there questions about Gurley going into the preseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted August 27, 2018 Ok so I guess not then. Thanks for the reply, it was expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted August 27, 2018 small thinking. those who see the signs in pre-season have fantasy football advantages over those who dismiss preseason Pre-season doesn't mean sh!t. Very little can be gleamed from it. Le'Veon Beill will obviously disappoint this year because he hasn't played, same for Gurley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 27, 2018 small thinking. those who see the signs in pre-season have fantasy football advantages over those who dismiss preseason No they dont. Coaches purposely keep their game plans and tactics under wraps. Watching to see if players pass the eye test is the only advantage one can hope to gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,879 Posted August 27, 2018 No they dont. Coaches purposely keep their game plans and tactics under wraps. Watching to see if players pass the eye test is the only advantage one can hope to gain. Nagy for the Bears didn't play his starters against KC, and has closed their practices for the remainder of the preseason. So yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 28, 2018 Pre-season doesn't mean sh!t. Very little can be gleamed from it. Le'Veon Beill will obviously disappoint this year because he hasn't played, same for Gurley. Wrong. Good fantasy players can gain advantage by picking up on many situations and usage in preseason. CMC usage for example, pre-season shows feature RB, others still consider him a RB2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted August 28, 2018 No they dont. Coaches purposely keep their game plans and tactics under wraps. Watching to see if players pass the eye test is the only advantage one can hope to gain. But we still see which players run with the ones, how many reps in the slot, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites