Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 Here is a copy (named changed to protect the innocent): Dear Boo. I have a proposal for you. There are certain things you want and there are certain things that I want. So I figure we can make a little wager. I seem to be motivated by proving to you that I can do something so we will use that to your advantage. I want a motorcycle. Granted I need to get rid of my truck, but that is a seperate issue that I will handle no matter what in the next couple of months. So let's stick the basics here. The two motorcycles I am looking at are going to cost around 7,000 dollars. They are the Honda VTX and the Kawasaki Vulcan and they will be used, either 2004 or 2005 but for the purposes going forward, the budget is 7,000. No more than that. Here's some ideas... Kawasaki: http://motors.listings.ebay.com/Kawasaki_V...ListingItemList Honda: http://motors.listings.ebay.com/Honda_VTX_...ListingItemList The bet. I quit smoking and dipping on August 1st. For every month that I quit, I will add 1,000 dollars to a special savings account. On Feb 1st 2007, the total in the account will be 6,000 dollars and will be used for a motorcycle. No questions. No arguments. Now, I know what you are asking right now. What's in it for me? The answer is actually a 4 part answer. 1) If I do not quit, I will forfeit any chances to get a motorcycle for the next 20 years. 2) Any money in the motorcycle savings will immediately go to you for whatever purposes you see fit. I have no say, no arguments, and forfeit any and all rights to any input on how that money is spent. You want to buy $3,000 worth of pug posters and scrapbooking materials - it's yours. You want to take a cruise with Jacky (our neighbor) - done. 3) Even after I get the motorcycle, I will be forced to sell it with NO QUESTIONS ASKED if you ever catch me smoking or dipping and you will receive that money. No excuses that it's cookoff. No excuses that I was drunk. No excuses. You catch me, I get rid of it. This way you have leverage on me even after that date to make sure that you never have to deal with my bad habit again. 4) The final one. You don't have to deal with me smoking or dipping anymore. Some possible questions: 1) The money is deposited on the 1st of the month. So on August first, the account will get 1,000 bucks. So you don't have to wait a month to have a benefit to winning. If I can't make it a day, you get a grand. 2) I will retake the motorcycle safety course regardless. 3) This will be a very VERY public bet. We will tell all of my friends, your friends, my family, your family. That way you have help. You simply have to let everyone know that there is a bounty on my head. If they catch me smoking or dipping, then offer them a finders fee. You still get cash and they get cash. I think my friends will help me to quit. 4) I will be seeking help in the form of joining a support group from http://www.nicotine-anonymous.org and I will attend meetings for as long as it takes. It is obvious that my current methods of quitting have gotten me nowhere. Time to try something else. 5) I will also be quitting drinking for at least the first 3 month, starting on August 1st. I have learned from my past failures that alcohol is my trigger and intoxication has always been my excuse for failing to quit. If one is going to go, then the other has to as well. Think about this and we will talk about it tonight. Toro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted July 11, 2006 quitter Honestly, I need to as well, 1K a month and a motorcycle seems like pretty good motivation. I think I need to try something like this.. I don't know your wife, but sounds like win/win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 1 Posted July 11, 2006 I don't know your wife, but sounds like win/win That's what I am thinking. I need to quit but the normal motivations just don't do it for me. Pictures of black lungs and commercials with guys with holes in their necks for some reason don't scare me. They SHOULD. But they don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted July 11, 2006 You will lose. The will power is weak! "A" for effort though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,593 Posted July 11, 2006 Here's to you Toro. *lights up even though he doesn't smoke* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brown Eyed Girl 1 Posted July 11, 2006 Sounds more than fair to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsjjw 0 Posted July 11, 2006 That is so sweet, I hope she does it for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Garcia 8 Posted July 11, 2006 Why do you need any more motivation to quit smoking? I would think this would be enough. Or how about sitting in a hospital bed dying of some disease while your wife and kids sit next to you crying. Or if you're the "right now" type, lower insurance rates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Sucks to be you. <<<<<sitting here, working from home with a fat dip of Skoal Long cut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted July 11, 2006 Toro, That is a very fair and reasonable bet. I hope you get your motorcycle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted July 11, 2006 Quit being a poosay ass dooshbag and just quit. It's not hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torridjoe 48 Posted July 11, 2006 Is this really Toro? sets tangible goal makes the decision to quit highly public establishes consequences for backsliding That's exactly what you're supposed to do when quitting smoking/losing weight/whatever. Which is why I'm wondering who is using your account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,025 Posted July 11, 2006 Sucks to be you.<<<<<sitting here, working from home with a fat dip of Skoal Long cut I hate you. I have spent countless wasted hours playing chess at media division since you posted the link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted July 11, 2006 Here's to Toro speeding up the natural selection process with a motorcycle. Not that I think you will make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted July 11, 2006 Why do you need any more motivation to quit smoking? I would think this would be enough. Or how about sitting in a hospital bed dying of some disease while your wife and kids sit next to you crying. Or if you're the "right now" type, lower insurance rates. Yeah yeah yeah...Spoken like a true non-smoker. Fact is, its ADDICTIVE. Hugely, painfully, controllingly addictive. Smokers know all about the risks, it's impossible in this age not to. But nicotine is impossibly hard to quit. I smoked for 20 years and finally quit about 3 years ago and am incredibly happy I did. However it was BY FAR the hardest thing I have ever had to do. Good luck man. Don't listen to the non smokers who simply have no idea what it's like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted July 11, 2006 Is this really Toro? sets tangible goal makes the decision to quit highly public establishes consequences for backsliding That's exactly what you're supposed to do when quitting smoking/losing weight/whatever. Which is why I'm wondering who is using your account. This is the same Toro who quit the bored forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted July 11, 2006 This is the same Toro who quit the bored forever. We could offer him a motorcycle if he left......i'm not pitching in though. His poorly thought out responses make me laugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0 Posted July 11, 2006 I hate you. I have spent countless wasted hours playing chess at media division since you posted the link HTH They need to update the engine. It's getting way too easy to beat even the hardest setting, but free is always good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted July 11, 2006 So she could use the money to hire male prostitutes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted July 11, 2006 What about the amphetamines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,593 Posted July 11, 2006 I thought bets with your wife usually ended in one of you sucking off a stranger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VikesNation 0 Posted July 11, 2006 I call BS, you don't earn $1000 per month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stop talking cheerleader 0 Posted July 11, 2006 I would go for it, of course the wager would have to be a lower monthly amount like $500, but if I think about it, 30FBT prob spends that in alcohol, chew and ciggs alone. Hey 30FBT...if you like this, since I know you want a motercycle, I'll agree to this with you ALL TERMS-----Including quiting as a lifelong thing Good Luck Toro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Fill 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Why do you need any more motivation to quit smoking? I would think this would be enough. Or how about sitting in a hospital bed dying of some disease while your wife and kids sit next to you crying. Or if you're the "right now" type, lower insurance rates. Just like you would think that Aids would make you want to stop sucking dycks. How's that working for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 296 Posted July 11, 2006 Seems like a deal she can't refuse. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackClouds 24 Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Boo I stopped reading after this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 I call BS, you don't earn $1000 per month. You're calling Barbara Streisand? Why would she care how much Toro makes. Unless she's his MIL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted July 11, 2006 She isn't going to buy you a helmet. She is trying to kill you. My advice to you is just follow along with her plan step by step. Good luck with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VikesNation 0 Posted July 11, 2006 You're calling Barbara Streisand? Why would she care how much Toro makes. Unless she's his MIL. Why don't you make like an elevator and kill yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_probert_2000 1 Posted July 11, 2006 I think she'd prolly like to see you quit smoking cack first, but the tobacco is probably more quitable for you. alsogoodluck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electric Mayhem 35 Posted July 11, 2006 :cracks knuckles: First, if you quit for a bet or a motorcycle, you will never be an ex-smoker. You will be a smoker that isn't currently smoking, and you will always WANT to have a cig/dip for the rest of your life, and it's a sh1tty way to live. You have to quit because you really want to stop and no other reason. I don't want to poo-poo you efforts, that's just the way it is. Second, this whole thing reeks of "You want me to quit so bad? Then you'd better offer me someting freakin' fantastic!!!". The way it sounds, if you do something she wants, you get a reward, and if you fail she gets rewarded. That pretty much sucks no matter how you look at it. She is the bad guy in this situation. Quit for you, not because she wants you to so badly that she has to be willing to use your SHARED RESOURCES TO BUY YOU A TOY. Third, motorcycles are dangerous. You're probably trading in a slow agonizing death through cancer/emphazehma (sp?) for a quick Rothlesburger-esque mashing. That is all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mulletia 0 Posted July 11, 2006 why do you hate america? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 Why don't you make like an elevator and kill yourself? Careful or I'll delete you. I hate when my alias' smart off to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VikesNation 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Careful or I'll delete you. I hate when my alias' smart off to me. Hey that reminds me, when is the Bad Santa-The Pope championship bout? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirty dug 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Yeah yeah yeah...Spoken like a true non-smoker. Fact is, its ADDICTIVE. Hugely, painfully, controllingly addictive. Smokers know all about the risks, it's impossible in this age not to. But nicotine is impossibly hard to quit. I smoked for 20 years and finally quit about 3 years ago and am incredibly happy I did. However it was BY FAR the hardest thing I have ever had to do. Good luck man. Don't listen to the non smokers who simply have no idea what it's like. I'm a non-smoker and one of the main reasons (besides the fact that sticking a burning pience of leaves in my mouth and sucking sounds about as unappealing as anything) is that I would never want my family to have to watch me die of a disease that I alone created. I couldn't hug my grandmother when she was dying because it was too painful. Despite it's addictiveness, if that's not motivation enough to quit you a) truly don't want to quit and truly don't care about your family. Addictions are cureable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRANDON ROSS 0 Posted July 11, 2006 My secret to quit smoking...Do 10 pushups every time you have a strong urge to smoke. You shift your addiction to the endorphins that are released, but working out is a much easier habit to break than smoking. God bless! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 557 Posted July 11, 2006 I stopped reading after this. He married Robert DeNiro's character from To Kill a Mockingbird? Hey that reminds me, when is the Bad Santa-The Pope championship bout? Right after you finish entertaining football players off shore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArnieBragg 1 Posted July 11, 2006 He married Robert DeNiro's character from To Kill a Mockingbird? Right after you finish entertaining football players off shore. Duvall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites