***Lost***

[nobody 2,667]

During the Charlie flashback where he saved Nadia, we never saw Desmond. Was this a time loop where Desmond didn't meet Charlie And if that is the case, maybe that is why Charlie doesn't recognize Desmond on the island. Because of all the time loops, maybe Desmond met Charlie exactly once, while most of the time, he never meets Charlie on the street. Especially when he keeps saving Charlie, he is changing history.

It could be that his flash wasn't a time-loop at all but just a glimpse at a possible alternate reality, but it isn't really fun to speculate when there could be thousands of explanations.

[itsbigmoni 1]

During the Charlie flashback where he saved Naomi, we never saw Desmond. Was this a time loop where Desmond didn't meet Charlie And if that is the case, maybe that is why Charlie doesn't recognize Desmond on the island. Because of all the time loops, maybe Desmond met Charlie exactly once, while most of the time, he never meets Charlie on the street. Especially when he keeps saving Charlie, he is changing history.

 

I think everyone thinks it was Nadia, not naomi.

[phillybear 366]

I think everyone thinks it was Nadia, not naomi.

 

Whoops. Typo. Fixed.

[edjr 6,580]

When did jack grow man titties and get fat?

[kutulu 1,676]

Through the Looking Glass Sneak Peek 1:27

[RicemanX 20]

Few observations and predictions from the last 2 episodes:

 

- Locke couldn't kill his father and Richard not aging both supports the on-going theory that the Lost island is stuck somewhere back in the past, and the whole explanation has something to do with time travel. Locke couldn't kill his father because if he killed his father in the past, he wouldn't exist.

 

- The parachute girl is most likely from 1 or 2 years later. Think about the radio (from the future) and how Sayjd said that it was more sophisticated than anything he has ever seen. And also the "greatest hits" album from driveshaft. You think they would be able to cut a greatest hits album in less than 3 months?

 

- Still have a small feelling that Jack has been brainwashed and is working with the others. 815 could be ambushed and there will be plenty of deaths thanks to Jack's betrayal.

[kutulu 1,676]

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.

[edjr 6,580]

Few observations and predictions from the last 2 episodes:

 

- Locke couldn't kill his father and Richard not aging both supports the on-going theory that the Lost island is stuck somewhere back in the past, and the whole explanation has something to do with time travel. Locke couldn't kill his father because if he killed his father in the past, he wouldn't exist.

 

- The parachute girl is most likely from 1 or 2 years later. Think about the radio (from the future) and how Sayjd said that it was more sophisticated than anything he has ever seen. And also the "greatest hits" album from driveshaft. You think they would be able to cut a greatest hits album in less than 3 months?

 

- Still have a small feelling that Jack has been brainwashed and is working with the others. 815 could be ambushed and there will be plenty of deaths thanks to Jack's betrayal.

 

 

Excellent points on the 1st 2. I hope jack doesn't turn, or hasn't turned.

[kutulu 1,676]

Parallel universe and a rip in the fabric of time.

 

This famous case allegedly took place in September, 1880 on a farm near Gallatin, Tennessee in full view of several witnesses. The two Lang children, George and Sarah, were playing in the front yard of the family home. Their parents, David and Emma, came out the front door, and David headed off across a pasture toward his horses. At this time, a buggy carrying family friend Judge August Peck was approaching. David turned to walk back to the house, saw the buggy and waved to the judge as he strode across the field. A few seconds later, David Lang - in clear view of his wife, his children and the judge - disappeared in mid-step. Emma screamed and all of the witnesses rushed to the spot where David once was, thinking perhaps he had fallen into a hole of some kind. There was no hole. A thorough search by the family, friends and neighbors turned up nothing. A few months after the unexplained disappearance, the Lang children noticed that the grass on the spot where their father vanished had turned yellow and wilted in a circle measuring about 15 feet in diameter.

[Mrdirt73 0]

Few observations and predictions from the last 2 episodes:

 

- Locke couldn't kill his father and Richard not aging both supports the on-going theory that the Lost island is stuck somewhere back in the past, and the whole explanation has something to do with time travel. Locke couldn't kill his father because if he killed his father in the past, he wouldn't exist.

- The parachute girl is most likely from 1 or 2 years later. Think about the radio (from the future) and how Sayjd said that it was more sophisticated than anything he has ever seen. And also the "greatest hits" album from driveshaft. You think they would be able to cut a greatest hits album in less than 3 months?

 

- Still have a small feelling that Jack has been brainwashed and is working with the others. 815 could be ambushed and there will be plenty of deaths thanks to Jack's betrayal.

 

But if Sawyer killed him, Locke would still be ok?

[edjr 6,580]

But if Sawyer killed him, Locke would still be ok?

 

 

Now I'm confused.

[RicemanX 20]

But if Sawyer killed him, Locke would still be ok?

Yea, this is not my idea, I actually read it somewhere online. Its a really good read, but it's long, check it out if you want:

Lost Theories

 

But it has something to do with the "grandfather paradox" that you can read about here. It basically states that some unimaginable force will stop you if you try to go back in time and kill your grandfather.

 

If you watch the part when Locke had the knife in his father's neck, he was struggling to push the knife in, maybe he really was trying to push the knife in, but some "unexplained force" was preventing it. And that's why when Sawyer was questioning Locke on the walk to the black rock, Locke was screaming "BECAUSE I CAN'T KILL HIM!"

Now the others probably know about this whole "we're back in time" thing because they all thought Locke was special, maybe special enough to kill his own father and break the rules of time...but they guessed wrong, and Ben was trying to show them that.

 

OOhh, my friend just told me to this today

 

-Locke is not dead because he was shot in the missing kidney area

[edjr 6,580]

 

-Locke is not dead because he was shot in the one kidney area that was stolen from him.

 

How could he be shot in the kidney if it's not there?

[RicemanX 20]

How could he be shot in the kidney if it's not there?

fixed and I hate you.

[phillybear 366]

Day after heartburn thoughts....

 

Locke will not die. First of all, it takes time to bleed out from a stomach wound. Hours to days. But it really depends on the location of the wound from the bullet: did it hit an artery/vein, or a major organ? Did anyone notice the location of the bullet wound. A wound that would have pierced Locke's kidney, if he had a kidney. Remember, he donated it to his father. Yet, Ben shot him in the only spot where the least amount of damage could be inflicted. I love the attention to detail by the writers. So the question is, did Ben intentionally shoot Locke only to would him, or did fate/the island intervene to spare Locke death. Because Locke is not going to die.

 

Validate me.

[kutulu 1,676]

Could be a kidney bean:

 

link 1

 

Link 2

[edjr 6,580]

Validate me.

I remember you saying it and ever since then, I believed you to be correct and it makes the most sense.

[phillybear 366]

I remember you saying it and ever since then, I believed you to be correct and it makes the most sense.

 

Throw enough sh!t against the wall, some of it will stick.

 

So you are still watching, huh? I suppose it isn't a surprise with the amount of time you've invested in it. I still strongly believe this season has been the best so far, especially when you ignore the first 6 episodes. But the finale episode this week will go a long way to validating this whole season.

[RicemanX 20]

they definitely bounced back from season 2.

[phillybear 366]

***Let's update this, from page 6 of this thread, any changes will have an "edit"....

 

Handicapping the dead:

 

Since we have all heard about 4 or 5 more people dying, let’s explore who might be taking a dirt nap in the near future. A really good indicator is someone that has pretty much had everything significant in their past revealed through flashbacks or had a life changing experience/epiphany (Boone, Shannon, Ana Lucia, Mr. Eko, Nikki, Paulo) Or the character wasn’t important enough to warrant a flashback (Colleen, Goodwin, Ethan, Dr Artz, Nathan, etc.) Chances of dying by conclusion of Season 3…and if I missed anyone, let me know.

 

Sawyer: Extremely likely. What more is there to tell about Sawyer? We saw him fulfill his life’s ambition by killing the man who ruined his life last week. We know his conning history, he told Jack about meeting Jack’s dad. No more possible flashbacks. Nothing. And the island may be upset after Sawyer killed Cooper. See ya.

 

Kate: Extremely likely: What more is there to tell about Kate? Her last flashback sucked, as it seemed to be stretching out her back story. We now about her killing her father, with several episodes devoted to it. Enough all ready. I’m tired of her batting her eyelashes at Jack and Sawyer. See ya.

 

Ben: Possible. As much as I like this character, he has a flashback upcoming this week, and many characters have died soon after a flashback episode centered on that character. While he has tons of potential back story to come, the island may demand him to die for putting its favorite son in the awkward position of being forced to kill his father. See ya.

Edit: Changing this from Extremely likely to Possible. The problem is that the Dharma flashback show that Ben's flashbacks reveal so much, and there is still much background to explore.

 

Jin: Extremely likely: Well, he is the father. Now what? His back story is pretty much done.

 

Naomi: Extremely likely: Great. She told us the survivors are dead, and has a useless phone, and speaks 73 languages. Now what. She won’t tell any more, and is useless other wise. Are they going to do a flashback on her? I doubt it. See ya.

 

Jack: Possible. He is going to be working on a movie this summer and fall, Speed Racer, and may or may not be returning to the cast for Season 4. Seems like his back story is over. But they forced that stupid tattoo episode on us, so they see to be stretching it out a bit. The only reason to keep him around is to see if he is permanent part of the others.

 

Charlie. Extremely likely. They made such a big deal of him dying but Desmond saving him, I think the swerve is to keep him alive.

Edit: Change from Possible to Extreme likely. His flashbacks are done. Nadia called him a hero last week. He kissed Claire. He hugged Hurley. He said goodbye to Aaron. Is there any more obvious clues that he will finally just die already. I'm sick of the will he/won't he crap. See ya.

 

Juliette: Possible. I think she is doing a great job with her character. But her back story is pretty much done. Her desire to leave at any cost may cost her life. Her relationship with Jack is blossoming. If he sticks around, she will probably do so as well.

 

Claire: Possible. Realistically, they aren’t going to kill off the mother of a new born. But I can still hope. Die. Die. Die. Her back story is done.

 

Carl: Possible. Peripheral character we haven’t seen in a while. Could show up just in time to die.

 

Mikhail: Possible. He might have come back to life, only to die again. I love the irony.

 

Desmond: No chance. His visions are very important right now. His backstory with Penny needs some kind of closure.

 

Rose and Bernard: No chance. Who? Aren’t they already dead? They’ve been missing for weeks. You can’t kill who you can’t see.

 

Hurley: No chance. I’ve read interviews where the creators/producers of the show have said Hurley is in it for the long haul. We still need to see how Hurley collapsed the deck that lead to his institutionalization. Maybe we will see the Libby connection in more detail in future episodes. Besides, the show can’t kill off its comic relief. He is around for the whole series.

 

Sayid: No chance. However, we have the unresolved story of Nadia, so I think he will be around next year. Besides, he is the only person with common sense on the whole island.

 

Locke: No chance. He is such a complicated character, they can’t kill him off. He is the true wildcard on the show. Unpredictable. But he is on the island’s wavelength. He is around for the whole series.

 

Sun: No chance. They need to keep her around for next year, to see if she can give birth and live. But her back story is done.

 

Rousseau: No chance. She is a mysterious character that needs a flashback at some point. Unresolved story with Alex.

 

Alex: No chance. Unresolved story with Rousseau, and her real relationship with Ben.

 

Tom: Possible. He is the comic relief of the Others.

Edit: Change from No Chance to Possible. They can't kill 5 main characters. And Richard has a back story after the Dharma poisoning. Some Others need to die. Other than Ben, Juliette, and Richard, who else is left that we know by name.

 

Richard Alpert: No chance. He is possibly subverting Ben’s leadership, and the island may want him around.

 

Michael and Walt: No chance. We need a flashback of what happened to them once they left on the boat.

 

Vincent: No chance. He is will continue to pop up every couple of episodes for a purpose. Or is the smoke monster.

 

The Smoke Monster: No chance. Simply because the monster would have the best flashback possible of everybody left

[RicemanX 20]

Agree with everything except Kate, I don't think her story is done. We havent learned how she ended up in Australia yet (unless I missed it).

And unless Naomi can replace her as the sex object for the guys to stare at on the show, Kate is not going anywhere.

 

more and more I read, I think Jack really will betray the 815. I see it ending like Sayjd realizing that Jack has turned and killing him. That would be pretty crazy.

[edjr 6,580]

Agree with everything except Kate, I don't think her story is done. We havent learned how she ended up in Australia yet (unless I missed it).

And unless Naomi can replace her as the sex object for the guys to stare at on the show, Kate is not going anywhere.

 

more and more I read, I think Jack really will betray the 815. I see it ending like Sayjd realizing that Jack has turned and killing him. That would be pretty crazy.

 

I don't see Jack dieing, although it wouldn't bother me.

[kutulu 1,676]

He walks among us.....

[Vikings4ever 550]

Agree with everything except Kate, I don't think her story is done. We havent learned how she ended up in Australia yet (unless I missed it).

And unless Naomi can replace her as the sex object for the guys to stare at on the show, Kate is not going anywhere.

 

more and more I read, I think Jack really will betray the 815. I see it ending like Sayjd realizing that Jack has turned and killing him. That would be pretty crazy.

I agree that Kate's going nowhere. While they've been pretty bad about killing off the T&A (Shannon, Anna Lucia, the actress who was buried alive, Libby (to some extent)), they still need some. I don't see Kate dieing off anytime soon.

 

And if Sawyer does live, there's still the whole love triangle thing with her, Sawyer, and Jack going.

[MicktheGreat 1]

My LOST death-pool list:

 

1. Charlie

I've been thinking that Charlie's whole "imminent death" thing was a big misdirection; however, after watching last week's episode, I think he will, in fact die. They did a very good job of wrapping up his character in flashbacks (easily the best Charlie flashback episode, IMO); and Charlie's goodbyes to Claire & Hurley make me think that he's a goner.

 

2. Jin

His flashback-storyline is finished. He doesn't add anything to the show except for the occassional roundhouse kick. And, he doesn't speak any English, so his relationship to everyone else on the island is somewhat minimal. With the writers trying to make Sun a more prominant character (with the whole pregnancy thing), it seems like Jin will probably die to add another dimension to her character.

 

3. Bernard

We haven't seen Bernard or Rose all season, and they suddenly pop up right before the finale??? One of them is dead for sure. Personally, I think Bernard will die -- probably after botching the ambush plan.

 

4. Naomi

She's served her purpose on the show -- which was to give the Losties hope of being rescued (which they probably won't be). She'd be an easy one for the writers to kill off, without getting rid of another main character.

 

5. Ben

I agree that at least one main Other will die in the season finale. They've invested too much backstory in Juliet to kill her now; and they can't kill Alex until after she meets Rousseau. Alpert's becoming a bigger character, so I don't think they'll kill him either. Tom is a possibility; but if anybody's going to kill him, it's going to be ole Sawyer (and he isn't one of the characters at the ambush, meaning he'd have to meet up with Tom somewhere else...which seems sorta unlikely of a scenario to me). With Locke recuperating (and probably VERY angry) in the jungle and Juliet/Alpert subverting his authority and Jacob seemingly reaching out to another person on the island (Locke), it seems like Ben is on the outs. The real question to me is who exactly will kill Ben (Locke? Jack? Juliet? Alex???).

[CantTouchThis 23]

I think the people that will die will be a bunch of relatively unknown others in the explosions. However, we have seen this happen before, where we think the losties have the others beat, just to find out the others had some complicated plan to actuall bring down the losties.

[nobody 2,667]

I'll say Carl, The military guy from The Others, Bernard, Mikial or whatever his name is, and a sleestack will die

[kutulu 1,676]

Season Finale/Half way through series bump.

[hoytdwow 202]

 

Locke: No chance. He is such a complicated character, they can’t kill him off. He is the true wildcard on the show. Unpredictable. But he is on the island’s wavelength. He is around for the whole series.

 

 

Locke is the bomb. He's going to go all Heart of Darkness like Brando in Apocalypse Now

 

[Vikings4ever 550]

Season Finale/Half way through series bump.

Actually, we're about 60% of the way through the series.

 

Assuming they are switching over to the new 16 episode season.

[kutulu 1,676]

Actually, we're about 60% of the way through the series.

 

Assuming they are switching over to the new 16 episode season.

 

 

Yeah, I know, but by "season" we are almost half way there (after tonight)...by episode 60% sounds good.

 

HOLLYWOOD — In last year's Lost season finale, Michael and Walt reunited, only to be sent sailing off the series. Tonight's two-hour finale (9 ET/PT, ABC) sees another emotional parent/child reunion.

 

This time, the characters are among the series' most mysterious.

 

Danielle Rousseau, or "the French lady" as she is known to many on the island, has popped up in the brush since Season 1. Her main objective: finding her daughter, Alex, who was kidnapped as an infant by the ominous Others.

 

Tonight, mother (played by Mira Furlan) and daughter (Tania Raymonde) finally come together in what producers promise will be an evening of conflict — and bloodshed — between the crash survivors and the Others.

 

Furlan, 51, and Raymonde, 19, have shared but one scene together, so during lunch at the French restaurant Café des Artistes, they eagerly swap stories about the show's super-secret closing scene and make plans to watch the finale together.

 

 

Their characters' on-screen reunion, shot weeks ago in Hawaii, occurred only minutes after the two met face to face for the first time.

 

"I think it worked out well that way," Raymonde says. "It was a huge moment for our characters and for me because I really wanted to meet this woman who was playing my mother. I was like, 'Mommmyyy!' "

 

"It's a basic human moment," Furlan says. "I'm glad I have such a beautiful partner."

 

With all the island mud scrubbed off their faces, it is easy to see why these actresses were cast as relatives.

 

"We have something in common, definitely," says Furlan, mother to son Marko, 8. "What do you think?" she asks Raymonde.

 

"I've talked to people who say, 'You look exactly like her,' " Raymonde says.

 

Both women, says Lost co-creator J.J. Abrams, "have given these characters such heart and soul. The challenge in a show like Lost with so many different people is characters getting lost, but they have made Danielle and Alex so identifiable and complex. I certainly think people are looking forward to seeing this reunion. It's something we've been playing to all year."

 

There was a moment several weeks ago when Danielle came close to reuniting with Alex, but chose to walk away. Furlan says she understands her character's ambivalence. "How can you ever be prepared for that moment?" she asks.

 

Adds Raymonde: "And how does Danielle expect her daughter to react? 'I've never met this woman before. I have no recollection.' "

 

"Maybe it has to come by chance, and not by choice," believes Furlan. "And that's kind of the way it might happen in the finale."

 

Furlan, whose character murdered her fellow scientific exploration crewmembers because they were "infected," is no stranger to treachery in her own life.

 

As an actress in her native Yugoslavia (now Croatia), Furlan fled the war-torn country in the early '90s. "Bloody, awful, hateful, horrible" are some of the words she uses to describe that turbulent time.

 

"My position as a very well-known actor (in film, TV and theater) put me in a very sensitive spot," recalls Furlan, who went on to play an alien on Babylon 5 (1994-98). "I was very outspoken about the war, and that brought me death threats."

 

With Danielle and Alex finally reuniting, the actresses now hope their characters will be given a chance to forge a relationship.

 

"It would be nice to have the characters develop," Furlan says. "But if it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm very Buddhist about this. Your life is a series of losses."

 

"They might have to eventually pick up where they left off," hints Raymonde. "But you never know. People disappear quite often on this show. We're just a part of this big machine."

 

All Abrams will say: "The ending is so mind-blowing, it's crazy."

[phillybear 366]

I've been careful to avoid spoilers going into tonight. So far, so good.

 

It's going to be interesting to re-read this thread tomorrow, from the beginning. See what I right about, what I was wrong about, and how everybody else did with predictions and analysis along the way. Then argue about it until next February.

[RicemanX 20]

I got focked over by a friend. He AIMed me a link with the spoiler and I couldn't resist reading it.

 

But I'm going to spare you guys and not even post the link.

 

I can tell you that its going to be GOOD though.

[kutulu 1,676]

I got focked over by a friend. He AIMed me a link with the spoiler and I couldn't resist reading it.

 

But I'm going to spare you guys and not even post the link.

 

I can tell you that its going to be GOOD though.

 

I've read a couple minor spoilers but have avoided the main ones. I'll miss the show after tonight, but at least I can squeeze in some more poker now.

[CantTouchThis 23]

My prediction.....PAIN.

 

I think Ben, Jin, Carl, and charlie will get the axe. With Charlie, i think he will break away from the women and end up going into the room and turning off the switch, and then it will flood and Desmond's vision will be true. I think Ben will get shot by Locke. Jin gets shot by one of the others, and Carl will probably get shot by Ben or Tom or something.

 

BTW, if you know what happens and i am right for any of them, please don't say i am right. I honestly think the Ben being shot by Locke prediction is more likely to come true. Locke will come stumbling out of the jungle half dead and kill Ben(actually, i don't know how he would have a gun, maybe stab him)

[phillybear 366]

It appears that they are reruning the recap show prior to the fresh episodes tonight.

[MLCKAA 573]

This thread should be the only Lost thread for the next 3 years, a canonical tribute to this excellent show.

[phillybear 366]

This thread should be the only Lost thread for the next 3 years, a canonical tribute to this excellent show.

 

While that might be interesting, I doubt Mike would allow his bandwidth get sucked dry, and he would no doubt lock it before it got beyond 20 pages.

 

I'd settle for a new thread every season, and starting a new one by the mid point of each season.

[jets24 6]

Is tonight a two hour show?

[Cdub100 3,903]

Is tonight a two hour show?

 

Yes

 

I'm so excited... :hyper: