***Lost***

[phillybear 366]

WHO FOCKING CARES

 

I'll wrap shoelaces around your throat and choke you out.

[Cdub100 3,983]

Purgotary is not an option.

 

No sh1t sherlock that's been known since season one. Damond and carlton put that theory to rest a long time ago. which is why I said a nod to an early fan theory.

[kutulu 1,692]

I'll wrap shoelaces around your throat and choke you out.

 

 

Sounds kinky, unfortunately for you I'm not gay, homo.

[phillybear 366]

As I sit, useless at my desk, recovering from drinking last night, another probably obvious thought occured to me.

 

Locke couldn't kill his father. Not because he isn't capable of killing. But because he did not want to risk making the island angry. He potentially sacrificed Sawyer for his own selfish agenda. Whereas Desmond risked Charlie's life for his own selfish agenda, but at the last minute saved him, Locke barricaded the door and made sure there was no last minute saving.

 

This leads to:

 

Did Sawyer make the island angry by killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

Did Locke make the island angry by not killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

[jets24 6]

As I sit, useless at my desk, recovering from drinking last night, another probably obvious thought occured to me.

 

Locke couldn't kill his father. Not because he isn't capable of killing. But because he did not want to risk making the island angry. He potentially sacrificed Sawyer for his own selfish agenda. Whereas Desmond risked Charlie's life for his own selfish agenda, but at the last minute saved him, Locke barricaded the door and made sure there was no last minute saving.

 

This leads to:

 

Did Sawyer make the island angry by killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

Did Locke make the island angry by not killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

 

 

Well, thanks for confirming nothing.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

As I sit, useless at my desk, recovering from drinking last night, another probably obvious thought occured to me.

 

Locke couldn't kill his father. Not because he isn't capable of killing. But because he did not want to risk making the island angry. He potentially sacrificed Sawyer for his own selfish agenda. Whereas Desmond risked Charlie's life for his own selfish agenda, but at the last minute saved him, Locke barricaded the door and made sure there was no last minute saving.

 

This leads to:

 

Did Sawyer make the island angry by killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

Did Locke make the island angry by not killing Anthony Cooper, and will he die by the end of the season?

 

 

If I were the island, I would be angry with you and send the smoke monster to buttfuck you to death.

[jets24 6]

If I were the island, I would be angry with you and send the smoke monster to buttfuck you to death.

 

 

But then you would make the island angry and it would kill you also. Bad idea. Plus, Phillybear cannot be killed. We here at FFToday have signed him up for another 3 years.

[The Moz 71]

so many questions

 

A. Purgatory would explain alot but I think it was already said the Writers said it wasn't - And Ethan went back and forth! NO focking clue what that Island is other than a suspision its some kind of space / time thing.

 

B. The smoke monster - no clue of signifigance

 

C. Who really runs the " others " is it Ben or the other guy ?

 

D. Why the fock do they care so much if they can have children on the Island ? -- fock take sub go to Aussie , fock like rabbits and go back

 

E. What the fockk is this box ?

 

 

As to the 2 people dying at seasons end ! ! I think it will be Julliett and Sawyer and maybe an other or two. JUlliett Dies I think sacrificing herself and Sawyer is killed by Island will for killing the other Sawyer.

 

 

Damn Purgatory would make so much sense. as Julliett would have been killed going to the Island by injection , Moster the gaurdian , Ben - likley going to hell in future trying to find a way to re create , Ben wanted to doom Locke as well by making him kill his father , -- aw fock it I stopping tryin g to figure this ###### out and just going to enjoy watching

[phillybear 366]

If I were the island, I would be angry with you and send the smoke monster to buttfuck you to death.

 

That would be a hell of a way to die. Although, being that the smoke monster is black, it's shlong must be the size of Cleveland.

[kutulu 1,692]

 

also locke = jacob

 

 

Could Richard be Jacob? Walt? Vincent?

 

preview & preview screen shots

 

From that site (poss. spoiler alert...highlight to read):

 

Damon and Carlton are busy guys this morning! They have made yet another radio appearance, this time on Drew and Mike! Lot's of nice information on this as well, plus those of you who wanted to see Carlton and Damon on the hot seat, here is your chance! Player link up here and some highlights below for spoiler purposes. One exciting bit of discussion, which is not a spoiler, is that LOST might be moved to a new timeslot next year! Yay!

 

These mysteries will be resolved by the end of the season:

 

* What was up with the guys in the arctic.

* Walt's ability to rejuvenate animals.

* The "magic box" idea

 

Some of the other highlights were:

 

* The island is very selective about who it heals based on the nature of the person.

* Carlton has a new nickname "Wheelbarrow Testicles." Personally, I think that should be the title of his Banjo solo ala Eddie Van Halen's "Eruption"

* Patchy's resurrection will be explained within the next couple of weeks.

* The smoke monster will not be explained until the end of the series.

* The long term story is made up of milestones, but they vary the arrival at those points by watching how the character development plays out.

* Locke's descent into a bumbling fool will be redeemed tonight.

* Lost will VERY LIKELY change its timeslot next year!

[pingpong 0]

Some random thoughts and ideas:

 

'special' means they were born on the island and have special powers. Ben, Locke, and possibly Walt? Next week Ben starts explaining some of the special secrets to Locke.

 

The crashed plane was planted by the Others and the bodies were not the same people? No way they answer the entire series with a cheap purgatory answer. Way to simplistic for a complex show.

 

Jack and Juliette wanted to wait before telling Kate of the attack by the Others looking to snatch the preggo chicks.

 

Ben is concerned about the pregnant women because babies conceived on the island have the same special powers and threaten his power? Women that conceive on the island die because Ben kills them?

 

Jin must be one of the Losties to die before the season ends because of the bun in the oven.

 

Jack and Juliette are scheming to take out Ben and/or prevent the Others from snatching the preggo chicks.

 

Locke and Ben will power play for control of the island because they are both 'special'.

 

Just a few random thoughts.

[MLCKAA 586]

F John Locke. I am pissed that the writers allowed us all to see sawyer going through this semi-redemption, becoming a more likable and decent guy only to then have Locke sabotage it by putting him in that situation.

 

Mark my words, Locke will go down as a fool/patsy in this series. His character thinks he is important, but that episode last night showed he's nothing more than a coward and when the island is finished with him, he's gone.

[IAMWood 6]

The fact that Locke can walk now makes him special. He does have some sort of understanding.

 

The buddy-buddy relationship with Jack and Juliet is irritating, the 'you can say anything in front of her that you do to me.' is irritating but intriging. the only thing I think that they need to tell Kate but didn't yet is the fact that they are stuck on the island, the only way off was the sub.

[MLCKAA 586]

The fact that Locke can walk now makes him special. He does have some sort of understanding.

 

The buddy-buddy relationship with Jack and Juliet is irritating, the 'you can say anything in front of her that you do to me.' is irritating but intriging. the only thing I think that they need to tell Kate but didn't yet is the fact that they are stuck on the island, the only way off was the sub.

 

He thinks he's special, but the island has him walking for its own purposes. No way the writers of this show will use such a deceitful coward as their hero.

[indybearsfan 0]

I'm beginning to think that the island must move somehow. the ship comes to the coordinates given by penny, but its 80 miles off the actual location. that doesn't seem like a small error in calculation. additionally there had to be a reason why penny had to be at a magnetic pole to see the variation. I'm guessing its moving with some sort of cloaking technology. this island is definitely not meant to be found, easiest way to accomplish that is to have it move. perhaps the cable running into the water is a tow cable of some sort.. sounds loony for sure. but maybe.

[IAMWood 6]

He thinks he's special, but the island has him walking for its own purposes. No way the writers of this show will use such a deceitful coward as their hero.

 

Gotcha, you may be on to something. I wouldn't call him deceitful. A coward, maybe. It's real easy to just kill someone. eye for an eye and all. But to be compassionate is tougher, supposedly. I am an eye for an eye type.

 

But maybe Locke didn't 'bring his dad there'. Maybe Sawyer brought the dude, Sawyer obviously hated the guy more.

[MLCKAA 586]

Gotcha, you may be on to something. I wouldn't call him deceitful. A coward, maybe. It's real easy to just kill someone. eye for an eye and all. But to be compassionate is tougher, supposedly. I am an eye for an eye type.

 

But maybe Locke didn't 'bring his dad there'. Maybe Sawyer brought the dude, Sawyer obviously hated the guy more.

 

Well, he lied to Sawyer to get him out to the boat and then locked a door behind him after Sawyer went in. That's deceit. I really think he's gonna get whacked at some point and the last look on his face is gonna be similar to the look on Grima's face in The Two Towers when he realized "Oh, i thought I was just being bad but really I am EVIL. Dang."

[kutulu 1,692]

Handicapping ‘Lost’: Who will die next?

From Charlie (safe bet) to Kate (no way), we lay odds on who will be offed

COMMENTARY

By Ree Hines

MSNBC contributor

 

Heading into the season-ending final stretch of “Lost,” rumors, spoilers and foilers abound. One of the biggies circulating promises a bloodbath for a month, with five deaths over the course of the next four episodes. Not since Oceanic Flight 815 first plummeted to the sand have so many checked out in such a short time.

 

That’s not to say this season has lacked its share of carnage to date. First, little-known Other, Colleen, fell to a gun-toting Sun. Then came the unfortunate business with Mr. Eko, who died in the smoky smog of the monster. Pickett, Colleen’s beau, didn’t have long to mourn before Juliet offed him. Adding to the Others’ death count, Ms. Klugh and Mikhail met their ends in back-to-back episodes. Only it didn’t keep Mikhail down for long. On the Oceanic side, Nikki and Paulo made their short stay worthwhile by taking a two-for-one dirt nap.

 

“Next week on ‘Lost’ …” is always more tempting when it’s followed by the promise of a shocking death. With a possible bounty of them just around the corner, there’s nothing left to do but wait for the mayhem to begin.

 

Odds-on favorites to bite the dust

Charlie: If Desmond’s fateful forecasts weren’t enough, Charlie’s going-nowhere story line seals the deal. A Charlie sans his smack addiction, Aaron obsession or church-quest with Eko has many fans cheering for his impending doom. Then again, with all signs pointing to it, don’t be disappointed if it’s a classic misdirection.

Death odds: 2:1

 

Anthony Cooper: Everybody loves to see a real villain get his in the end. What’s the point of having Locke’s father, Cooper, around if not for a well-relished demise? It’s like early Christmas for Locke and the audience.

Death odds: 2:1

 

Sun: Given the recent reveal about pestilent pregnancies on the island, Sun’s prognosis isn’t looking good. Bonus points: With a bun in the oven, Sun’s death could count for two of the five.

Death odds: 3:1

 

Mikhail: Who says you can’t die twice on “Lost”? Now that Mikhail is fully reanimated, he’s a prime target for finishing the job. Of course, it might take something more potent than security pylons this time.

Death odds: 3:1

 

Rousseau: It can’t be much longer until the long-anticipated Rousseau-Alex reunion takes place. But what’s left for the mad survivalist once that goes down? It’s not as though she’ll make a happy home with daughter Alex and Ben. Heck, it might just be a battle with Ben that does her in.

Death odds: 4:1

 

Dark horses

Jin: Now that it’s confirmed Sun’s life is in danger, Jin can sleep a little safer. They can’t both die. Right? Then again, with a pregnant wife to protect, he’s not beyond going out in a blaze of self-sacrificial glory if the situation calls for it.

Death odds: 6:1

 

Claire: With Charlie more worried about saving his own hide lately, Claire (and baby Aaron) should watch out. Lacking a dedicated protector, and with that chip Ben & Company implanted in her, the beach could be Claire-less at a moment’s notice.

Death odds: 7:1

 

Hurley: Axing Hurley would fill the need for a tear-jerking, fan-stunner of a death, but let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. The show still needs a well-placed “dude” to break the tension.

Death odds: 8½:1

 

Long shots

Desmond: It’s way too soon to say goodbye to Desmond, what with his powers of prophecy and true love, Penny, out there somewhere. Then again, if he keeps saving Charlie from certain death, he may find himself in the path of the Grim Reaper yet. Hey, another great argument for letting Charlie die.

Death odds: 9:1

 

 

Juliet: Juliet is camping beachside for now, but it won’t be long until everyone catches on that she’s in cahoots with her old nemesis, Ben. And those who didn’t trust her in the first place (Sayid, Sawyer, heck, everyone but Jack) will demand retribution.

Death odds: 9:1

 

Locke: As much a part of the island as that weird four-toed statue, Locke seems safe. But assuming the plot with his dad is coming to a close, the walking-wonder will have a rough go re-integrating with the beachcombers after his defection. While not a sure thing, Locke facing mortal danger in a showdown with either side isn’t out of the question.

Death odds: 10:1

 

Not even a case of the sniffles

Sayid: He’s not big on the whole torture thing anymore, but Sayid is still the man to see to ferret out a villain. And he’s the only one smart enough to ask “Why don’t we just kill him?” when there’s a known interloper in their ranks. If the rest of the Losties want to live, keeping Sayid around makes sense.

Death odds: 13:1

 

Ben: Despite viewer complaints about this season being too Others-heavy, Ben is still the creepy bright spot among the baddies. There are bound to be attempts on his life, but with his talent for survival, none will succeed.

Death odds: 14:1

 

Sawyer: Bringing the beefcake and the load-bearing side of the permanent love triangle, Sawyer and his powers of nicknaming (the ban on which should soon be lifted) will continue to irritate and entertain for at least one more year.

Death odds: 15:1

 

Jack: Though it’s not hard to think of several good reasons to put a fork in him, Jack’s the A-plus of the A-list and thoroughly secure. Even bringing traitor Juliet into camp and leading with his “because I said so” manner isn’t enough to stop him.

Death odds: 16:1

 

Kate: The safest female castaway, hands down. Kate can track, con and lead — she’s like Locke, Sawyer and Jack all rolled up in a rosy-cheeked package with freckles. Her main fault, being wishy-washy when it comes to men, will hardly be her downfall.

Death odds: 16:1

 

Even if rumors hold true and it’s the final curtain for five Losties, only one or two will be sadly missed. Remember, this is “Lost.” Scads of no-name redshirts running around at both camps await their big date with death.

 

And what about a twist? Well, the show has already brought someone previously thought dead back to life. If Mikhail doesn’t reprise his death scene, there’s still room for, say, Jack's dad, Christian Shephard, to fill the bill.

 

But if either Paulo or Nikki come crawling out of the grave, expect a viewer revolt.

 

Ree Hines is a writer in Tampa

 

[nobody 2,791]

I'd put some money on the field. Figure Micahel is going to be back soon.

[kutulu 1,692]

I'd put some money on the field. Figure Micahel is going to be back soon.

 

 

Should we get a pool going? Also, someone else do it as I am lazy by nature.

[MicktheGreat 1]

If I had to guess who else will die this season, I'd say:

1. Jin

2. Naomi

3. Claire

4. Ben

 

Either Sun or Jin is sure to die. I'm betting that Jin dies while protecting Sun -- because, if they kill of Sun, then there's nobody left to translate for Jin (meaning that his character becomes even more one-dimensional, due to communication limits).

 

Naomi, the parachutist, would be an easy person to kill off now that she's revealed A)Why she's on the island B)Who she works for & C)Who she's looking for. She probably doesn't have much importance in the plot, other than reveal to the Losties that Penny is looking for Desmond (i.e. gives them hope of being rescued) and that the island is apparently undetectable (i.e. squashing said hope). Plus, if the writers kill her off, it would get them towards their kill-quota without eliminating a more prominant character.

 

The writers are setting up a million ways for Charlie to die -- which, to me, almost assures that he will NOT die. With Charlie's story-line sorta one-dimensional (after beating his drug habit and the death of Ecko), his storyline needs a new direction. What better way than to kill off his girl??? Charlie would then have to take care of baby Aaron (which he obviously isn't qualified to do) and would also tie into those weird dreams he was having last season (the ones in which Claire, dressed like the virgin Mary, asked him to save Aaron...or something like that...).

 

Ben's a cool character; however, with the introduction of the enigmatic "Jacob" coming up in the next few weeks, this would be a convenient time for the writers to get rid of Ben. With Ben gone, "Jacob" becomes more prominant in his leadership of the Others.

 

 

Also...I've been thinking about who "Jacob" could be. My guess is that it's someone we've already been introduced to. The writers could be making a hint with the name itself (i.e. the John Locke, Rousseau, and Desmond Hume characters are all obviously named after famous philosophers). In the Bible, Jacob is a "chosen" person (chosen to inherit great things, even though he was not the oldest son), who changes his name (to "Israel"), and who is the source of a great nation/group (i.e. the twelve tribes of Israel). Thus, I think the "Jacob" character in LOST could easily be someone who is seen to be "chosen" -- perhaps someone who has a special kinship with the island and who is seen as having great power or potential (perhaps to lead a group of his own...i.e. the Others).

 

Walt, maybe???

[jets24 6]

This may just be a stab in the dark but is it possible that Hurley ate Walt?

 

 

Cause he is getting bigger & bigger & bigger & bigger

[nobody 2,791]

The whole problem with everyone speculating that some of the Lost group are Jacob is that none of them are named Jacob. If Walt or Locke were Jacob, wouldn't they just call their supposed leader Walt or Locke?

 

Also, when Juliet was trying to leave the island, Ben said Jacob would cure her sister's cancer if she stayed. That implies that the mysterious Jacob is already knowingly tied to The Others.

[TommyGavin 790]

Should we get a pool going? Also, someone else do it as I am lazy by nature.

 

 

I volunteer to hold the money - make it out my girlfriend and send it to her werk

[CantTouchThis 23]

Personally, I think the whole thing is a dream sequence and the very last episode will be Hurley in the insane asylum, rocking back and forth, dreaming this whole thing up.

 

 

Don't forget about Libby Who was also in the insane asylum. Really, that would be the worst way to end the series, i mean that would ruin everything. I like the time travel thing, i think something like that would be pretty cool.

[MLCKAA 586]

I am predicting that Jacob is not a human being-- either a machine or an animal or an artifact.

 

None of you thought of that one, did ya?

[kutulu 1,692]

Could Richard be Jacob? Walt? Vincent?

 

 

[Cdub100 3,983]

I am predicting that Jacob is not a human being-- either a machine or an animal or an artifact.

 

None of you thought of that one, did ya?

 

Jacob could be the monkey Joop.

[phillybear 366]

I'm drunk on a Friday night. I might as well throw my prediction in on Jacob...

 

Jacob is the clone of Ben. Or, even better. Jacob is Ben. Think about it. Is there anyone on the island as manipulative as Ben. He has more tricks up his sleeve. Somehow, Ben will turn the Jacob situation on it's ear, and make it all about Ben.

 

The next episode is all about Dharma. We should get some significant answers.

 

Also, ABC is about to announce that Lost will run 5 seasons, no more, no less.

[Vikings4ever 568]

Also, ABC is about to announce that Lost will run 5 seasons, no more, no less.

Sounds good. Any longer than that, IMO, would be dragging things out, even more than Lost is famous for.

[Cdub100 3,983]

Also I don't think John brought his dad to the island. He's the last person he wanted to see. I think sawyer is the one that brought Sawyer Sr. to the island. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if sawyer is Jacob. In fact that's my prediction

 

Sawyer is Jacob or at least more special than Locke

[nobody 2,791]

The whole problem with everyone speculating that some of the Lost group are Jacob is that none of them are named Jacob. If Walt or Locke were Jacob, wouldn't they just call their supposed leader Walt or Locke?

 

Also, when Juliet was trying to leave the island, Ben said Jacob would cure her sister's cancer if she stayed. That implies that the mysterious Jacob is already knowingly tied to The Others.

 

 

Hello motherfockers!!!

[GuidingLight 3]

I'm about to watch it, hope you all are on... (i meant on with your opinions...)

 

 

Also, I lost the girl..

[IAMWood 6]

Also I don't think John brought his dad to the island. He's the last person he wanted to see. I think sawyer is the one that brought Sawyer Sr. to the island. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if sawyer is Jacob. In fact that's my prediction

 

Sawyer is Jacob or at least more special than Locke

 

See post #176. Same feeling. I was eluding to the twist that Sawyer might be more special than anyone. Heck, he is bagging 'freckles', and he doesn't even have to snuggle with her.

[Cdub100 3,983]

See post #176. Same feeling. I was eluding to the twist that Sawyer might be more special than anyone. Heck, he is bagging 'freckles', and he doesn't even have to snuggle with her.

 

He also hit Anna

 

Ladies love the bad guys

[UncleHulka 0]

Has Gilligan run into Meadowlark Lemon yet?

[edjr 6,740]

I know I saw a shark in this episode.,

[Mrdirt73 0]

I know I saw a shark in this episode.,

No, idiot that was one of the first few episodes of season two I think.

[kutulu 1,692]

Ben begrudgingly introduces Locke to the island's secrets, including mysterious Jacob; Juliet's secret goes public.

 

The Answers ABC Thu 5/17 10:07 PM

 

Executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse explore the mysteries of the island and recap some of the revelations made this season as well as those not yet made.

[edjr 6,740]

Last weeks episode was actually the best episode of the season. FINALLY they answered some questions, or started to answer some questions. You still have to guess as to what the island is, but at least they are giving us something to use to guess with.