***Lost***

[edjr 6,740]

Locke's dad was also the owner of the "Double Duece" bar in Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze.

 

 

if you have never seen Chop Poker, it is an absolute MUST SEE.

[TommyGavin 790]

Locke's dad was also the owner of the "Double Duece" bar in Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze.

yup - thats where I knew him from.

 

my friend came over and we smoked.

 

good job Kumar

 

Locke's dad was in the old HBO Tales From The Crypt. The episode was "Chop Poker".

 

I thought you didnt watch this show assmaster ?

[JT 137]

Also, is there any significance to the term Namaste?

 

ET's a man !!!

[CantTouchThis 23]

After watching it again...

 

Yeah, very clear view of jacob right after he pushes ben away after ben says "You've had your fun". Looks like an older guy, frizzy white hair, maybe long, with a type of goatee type of facial hair, maybe even a full grown beard. It almost looks like he is smiling. BTW, i paused it on DVR perfectly, could very clearly see him lighter than any of the pics posted on here, deffinently NOT Locke or anyone we know on the island.

 

I don't know if it has any relevance, but, right before they open the door to Jacob's house, right after ben lite the candle, a guy in the distance screamed and Locke looked back....yeah, i was very attentive during that part because the first time i watched it i was just saying WTF in my head over and over again.

 

Also, Ben isn't totally evil, he deffinently felt sympathy for his dad and killing all the dharma people. Locke deffinently isn't dead, he was pretty clearly talking, looks like the shot was right below the heart. Not an expert on ananomy, so, don't know if he shot anything that will kill him fast. I deffinently know ben didn't intend to kill him with that one shot, it was only because he knew Locke would never tell him what jacob said, and this was the only way. Ben was deffinently suprised that Locke heard Jacob, but, obviously it was very significant.

 

Just a thought, why didn't Ben hear what jake said to Locke?? Maybe Ben really can't hear him and just knows he is there but was just putting on a show for Locke, and Locke really heard him. I agree with, what i think, was a previous post that said he is confined to that house maybe to that chair, and he was asking Locke to set him free.

 

You know, the whole Jacob thing pissed me off at first, but, now i am starting to come around. The writers do that a lot right when introduce something new, basically make it a complete mystery at first, then slowly reveal what is going on. The fact that they slipped in that very brief shot of him is huge, meaning he is real. That millisecond changes almost everything about the island as we know it....

[kutulu 1,692]

 

 

Also. Do you any of you fanatics realize the producers of this show, have no focking clue what's coming next and they make this all up as they go along? Think about it. You think they wrote up 6 seasons of this crap when they 1st got it on TV? of course not. They thought they'd be lucky to get one season out of it and now it's turned into the biggest debacle to ever be on Television.

 

From what I read, they mapped out the main points of the story from the beginning to the middle to the conclusion, but they are filling in a lot of the story along the way....could be a lot of the filler is being used to stretch out the story, but I do believe there is a main story that they started with.

[edjr 6,740]

From what I read, they mapped out the main points of the story from the beginning to the middle to the conclusion, but they are filling in a lot of the story along the way....could be a lot of the filler is being used to stretch out the story, but I do believe there is a main story that they started with.

 

 

NO F-ing way they planned on it going 6 seasons. 3 tops. They have filled it with so much useless crap and flashbacks.

[kutulu 1,692]

NO F-ing way they planned on it going 6 seasons. 3 tops. They have filled it with so much useless crap and flashbacks.

 

Three sounds good.

[kutulu 1,692]

Podcast highlights:

 

(1) Next week's podcast will be the last of the season and will pre-hash the season finale. (No podcast following the finale).

 

(2) Future format of show explained - again.

 

(3) JACOB's appearance "purposely created a TIVO moment."

What you see is open to interpretation.

"It's premature to discuss JACOB in detail as it will spoil upcoming episodes.

Jacob is more of a question for Season 4 than he is for Season 3."

Rest of this season focuses on established characters instead.

 

(4) Flashback confirms Ben lied about his past, coming as a recruited member of DHARMA.

The Others purged DHARMA & incorporated some of its members into The Others.

Carlton paraphrasing Ben: "Me and a few others were smart enough to not get purged."

 

(5) Is Locke dead?

CUSE bets NO, LINDELOF bets YES.

 

(6) LINDELOF: "Why did Ben shoot Locke, Carlton?"

 

CUSE: "Ben took Locke out to see JACOB as sort of a litmus test. He wanted to find out if in fact John Locke really was special, and if John Locke really could see or hear JACOB, that would indicate that Locke really WAS special. So when Locke DID hear JACOB, that really got...that freaked Ben out. That was a threat to Ben and his primacy. So he led him over to the pit and he shot him, 'cause he doesn't want his leadership of the Others challenged by John Locke.

 

(7) Show Seasons are designed around major story concepts. Season 3 was all about the Others, etc.

CUSE: "When you watch the finale, you'll get a pretty good idea of what Season 4 is gonna be about."

 

(8) JACOB is NOT an alien, as parallels to Walt's comic book might suggest.

 

(9) We will see more of The Purge.

What we saw was "only a taste of things to come."

Marvin Candle and others will be revisited.

 

(10) The powdery substance surrounding JACOB's cabin, and seen in his chair, may be volcanic ash.

In combination with other substances, this powder is probably confining JACOB.

 

(11) Did Ben kill Annie in The Purge too?

Annie will be revisited in a future "chapter" of the show.

 

(12) We will see the DHARMA shark again. It has a name: "JIM" (or "EZRA JAMES SHARKINGTON" in jest).

Hydra Station was used to study marine creatures. The shark's markings will be explained.

[kutulu 1,692]

So this season we've gotten to know the Others better than ever, with the help of Juliet, the apple of Jack's eye now that Kate and Sawyer are joined at the hip. On a show famous for killing its darlings, the body count is going to ramp up to ridiculous levels as the season winds down. In the two-hour finale, Jack and a new (improved?) Locke are going to have a long-awaited showdown that will affect the future of all the survivors. Penny and Desmond's relationship will be featured once again, Hurley will play a crucial role, and the origins of the Dharma Initiative will at last be explained. Rumors abound that the survivors will be splitting into two different factions, but as far as we know there will not be a tribal council and no one will be voted off the island.

 

info on Season Finale from Yahoo TV

[phillybear 366]

Bumping, so I can find the thread more easily, when I try to recap tonight's episode after a couple of drinks.

[Vikings4ever 568]

Now we know what Danielle need that dynamite for.

[Cdub100 3,983]

Is it just me or does Jack look different?

[Vikings4ever 568]

Is it just me or does Jack look different?

 

So, either Charlie dies, or they don't get rescued.

 

Since Lost keeps going for another 3 season, apparently the focking hobbit lives.

[Cdub100 3,983]

 

So, either Charlie dies, or they don't get rescued.

 

Since Lost keeps going for another 3 season, apparently the focking hobbit lives.

 

Desmond said he sees claire get on the helicopter. He didn't mention anyone else

 

Also I have a feeling season 4 will be heavy on the Darma much like season 3 was about the others

[Cdub100 3,983]

Damn it Desmond is going to takes Charlie's place and die.

[Vikings4ever 568]

Damn it Desmond is going to takes Charlie's place and die.

Looks like that's what Desmond was going to do.

 

Then the hobbit knocked him out.

 

Die you little focker!!!

[phillybear 366]

Rambling thoughts on tonights episode, in between shots...

 

Every focking character on Lost has Daddy issues: Ben, Jack, Sawyer, Locke, Kate, Sun, Jin, Charlie, Claire, Alex, Hurley, Penny, Aaron, Walt, etc You get my point....

 

Danielle Rousseau has become the most intriging character on this show. Might she be Annie or Kate?

 

Jack wants to blow the Others all to Hell. Why do I get the feeling that this won't work?

 

Interesting how Drive Shaft put out a Greatest Hits album after Charlie's death, yet Charlie's brother Liam still didn't put out original material.

 

Ben is jamming the distress signal. Interesting call back to season One.

 

I have to review the whole Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Aaron context of the Bible and see how it relates to the show.

 

Rose, Bernard, and Karl re-appear. Setting up for the finale.

 

Ben continues to lose control. Ben changes the plan and wants to kill Losties, Alex subverts his authority.

 

Alex is a manipulative person, much like Ben. Maybe, just maybe, Alex really is the daughter of Ben.

 

Liam makes a reference to the North Pole, which of course is the location of the workers of Penny from the end of last season.

 

I still want Claire to die. Attention wh0re x 10. Look at Charlie in danger. What about me? Whaaah. I don't want to worry. Whaah. Die, you evil woman. Die. Die. Die.

 

Charlie is in Desmond's flashback as he rescues the woman from a robber. That is a key scene, that I will have to rewind tomorrow.

 

Charlie hugging Hurley is like hugging an apartment building.

 

Charlie's flashbacks are done. There is no more story for him. He is due to die.

 

Charlie is not alone at the Looking Glass station. Wow. Juliet lied again. Kick ass. Everytime we start to trust her, she pulls another lie out of her vag.

 

Next week will be killer.

 

Tomorrow, I will try to string some theories together.

[Vikings4ever 568]

Charlie is not alone at the Looking Glass station. Wow. Juliet lied again. Kick ass. Everytime we start to trust her, she pulls another lie out of her vag.

Actually, she said that Ben said the station was abandoned. So either she's lieing, or Ben's lieing. Could be either.

[MicktheGreat 1]

Rambling thoughts on tonights episode, in between shots...

 

Danielle Rousseau has become the most intriging character on this show. Might she be Annie or Kate?

 

I have to review the whole Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Aaron context of the Bible and see how it relates to the show.

 

Rose, Bernard, and Karl re-appear. Setting up for the finale.

 

Charlie is in Desmond's flashback as he rescues the woman from a robber. That is a key scene, that I will have to rewind tomorrow.

 

Charlie is not alone at the Looking Glass station. Wow. Juliet lied again. Kick ass. Everytime we start to trust her, she pulls another lie out of her vag.

1. I agree about Rousseau. She's easily the most enigmatic character on the show right now and probably knows a lot more than she's letting on. My guess is that we'll get a Rousseau flashback next season -- as she's getting closer and closer to a reunion with Alex.

 

2. As far as the whole Biblical thing. The Biblical Jacob is a trickster for the most part, especially early in life (i.e. he tricks his brother out of his birth-right) -- but he eventually becomes a patriarch of sorts (i.e. father of the 12 Tribes of Israel). If the LOST Jacob is the source of the smoke monster & the "ghosts" on the island (i.e. Ecko's brother, Christian Sheppard, Hurley's friend, etc.), then he'd certainly fit the "trickster" part. Plus, he's apparently in some sort of leadership role on the island (or, at least, Ben views him as a person in authority).

 

Aaron was Moses' brother and was God's spokesperson (sorta) before the Egyptian pharaoh. Way back in season 1, the psychic (who may/may not have been a phony) said that Aaron was an extremely important child. Ecko re-emphasized this when he explained to Claire the origin of the name Aaron (I think in season 2).

 

The interesting connection to me involves Ben. In the Bible, Jacob has a couple of wives (and some maidservants as well). Anyway, his beloved wife, Rachel is unable to have children for a long time. Eventually, she gives birth to Joseph (i.e. the Coat of Many Colors, sold into slavery, etc.). After awhile, she becomes pregnant with a second child. She gives birth; however, she tragically dies as a result of the labor. Guess what that kid's name was??? That's right...Ben-Oni or Benjamin (which, depending on your linguistic interpretation means "son of my suffering/pain"). There's a pretty blatant connection. Both the Biblical Benjamin and the LOST Ben have fathers -- either figuratively or literally -- named Jacob. And both are born at the cost of their mother's life.

 

3. Rose or Bernard will die in the finale. Mark my words. No reason to introduce them here (after a season of inactivity) unless they were going to be killed.

 

4. That chick in Charlie's flashback looked familiar. I'm thinking she was from Sayid's storyline -- either the woman that tortured (and then freed) him in the restaurant or the woman that he's been searching for for all those years. I'm not sure which one, exactly though. She had a pretty heavy Middle Eastern accent too, which sorta reminded me of those two women.

 

5. I don't think Juliet lied. I think it's more likely that Ben lied to her (and everyone else) by telling them that the Looking Glass was flooded -- in order to keep them from being tempted to try and contact their families off the island (especially since we know that Juliet was already desperately wanting to get in contact with her sister).

 

[MLCKAA 586]

two more hours of this stuff tomorrow?!!?

 

Good ep.

[CantTouchThis 23]

I was actually kinda thinking this episode would be the others coming and trying to take the women, a couple get killed and then running back into the jungle or something. The season finale i thought would be a big attempt in rescue that would be spoiled by the others or some sort of super being on the island. However, both will happen in the finale. Season 1 and 2 finales were tremendous, i think this one will not disappoint....

 

So, did Jacob really tell Ben to go get them now, or is Ben just making stuff up again?? I don't really get why he would all of a sudden go now, maybe cause of Locke hearing Jacob for some reason which has obviously really effected Ben in some way. Maybe it's cause of Naomi, and getting her, and that is why he said capture all the women because he wants to get to Naomi.

 

Yeah, i honestly think there is no evidence of Juliet double crossing Jack and the losties, i think she is now telling the truth and has come over to the other side.

 

I thought they had more guns?? They only have 3?? I thought they had at least 10. Seriously, Jack should be carrying a gun, we see he encounters Ben when he is leading everyone to the tower. One of these times, and what they should do, is just shoot him in the head. That won't happen, because then the others and losties would probably unite and get rescued.

 

Locke??? What about Locke?? Dead, alive, who knows.

 

Alex looks like Danielle, almost exactly, there is really no doubt she is the mother. Wow, i just thought of something, Danielle has been trapped on the island for 16 years. From how old Ben looked, i think it has only been maybe not even 10 years since Ben killed all the dharma people and took control, hell, maybe only 5 years(since we know Juliet was brought 3 years ago). So, they kidnapped Alex before(at least assumpticially) the others were created. I don't know what that means, but, just food for thought. I think it is pretty safe to say that Danielle isn't one of them, that would be insane though, and that she is tellling the truth about what happened to her. As was previously said, we will probably see flashbacks next season, maybe even the finale since it would be a very key flash back.

[Vikings4ever 568]

I thought they had more guns?? They only have 3?? I thought they had at least 10. Seriously, Jack should be carrying a gun, we see he encounters Ben when he is leading everyone to the tower. One of these times, and what they should do, is just shoot him in the head. That won't happen, because then the others and losties would probably unite and get rescued.

Well, they kinda keep losing guns to the Others.

 

They lost a couple when Michael went AWOL, and Jack, Sawyer, and Locke went after him (and Kate, but she screwed it up). Then a few for last season's finale when Michael led them to the Others. They're likely running out of bullets too, since Sawyer was carrying an unloaded gun last week.

[IAMWood 6]

Prediction on Locke:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He will stroll in to save the day in a showdown with Ben when things are looking bad for the Losties.

[JT 137]

Prediction on Locke:

He will stroll in to save the day in a showdown with Ben when things are looking bad for the Losties.

 

Riding a polar bear.

 

Is it just me or does Jack look different?

 

The last two eps have included an invisible man and a secret society of underwater women. Evil twin-ism can't be far behind.

[jets24 6]

Is it possible that the people at The Looking Glass are not part of The Losties and a new group altogether? That would be interesting.

[Mrdirt73 0]

Is it possible that the people at The Looking Glass are not part of The Losties and a new group altogether? That would be interesting.

I kinda think that they may be a remnant of the Dharma group. Assuming that Dharma will be the focus of season 4 I would assume they will introduce them in the season 3 final.

[Big Blue 06 195]

I kinda think that they may be a remnant of the Dharma group. Assuming that Dharma will be the focus of season 4 I would assume they will introduce them in the season 3 final.

 

I was thinking that as well. When the first woman came out with a gun pointed at Charlie, my wife mentioned that it was probably Ben's childhood girlfriend.

[Mrdirt73 0]

I was thinking that as well. When the first woman came out with a gun pointed at Charlie, my wife mentioned that it was probably Ben's childhood girlfriend.

ohhhhh, good call, I hadn't considered that. It would probably explain why Ben would let them live though.

[Isotopes 1]

ohhhhh, good call, I hadn't considered that. It would probably explain why Ben would let them live though.

 

and since they were underwater they wouldn't have died from the gas.

[kutulu 1,692]

Lost

The Answers

Thu, May 17, 10:15 PM | Run Time: 45 min.

 

Executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse explore the mysteries of the island and recap some of the revelations made this season as well as those yet to come.

[kutulu 1,692]

Saw this spoiler for last night's episode, but resisted reading it till after I saw the show. Pretty accurate:

 

 

 

 

Tonight’s eppi just lays down the ground work for the finale nothing phenomenal happens. But none the less it is entertaining.

 

Jack had previously made plans with Danielle to get as much dynamite as she could from the black rock. The plan is to have the marked tents by Juliette filled with explosives, when the others come to take the pregnant women.

 

Sayid says Danielles distress signal from 16 years ago is blocking him from sending out a call to Naomi’s ship so they need to disable her signal in addition to this Juliette says that signal is being Jammed by an underwater station called the Looking Glass. She has never been there or knows of anyone else who has. She was told that there was an incident that flooded the station but the jamming still works.

 

Meanwhile Carl shows up in an outrigger he is charging towards the losties he is the one Sayid is seen tackling at the beach in the promo. He has come to warn them that the raid will be tonight not tomorrow night. He knows this because……..

 

Ben arrives back to his camp in a very angry mood and gives Alex back her gun he’s not happy with her. Alex, Richard and the others ask where Locke is and he tells them Locke had an accident. He orders the guy who watched Sayid when he was captured (the one we expect to die) to form a group of his ten best and take the women tonight and if the men try to get in the way kill them. He tells them Jacob wants it done now. Neither Richard nor Alex seem thrilled about this plan. But Alex runs off to the wood and finds Carl who is hiding out. Alex wants him to warn them. Alex said they owed it to Sawyer and Kate for saving Carls life. When Carl says your father won’t be happy you did this. She says “Is he my father” This isn’t really a question she is well aware Ben is not her father (I think).

 

We get some Charlie flashbacks because he is writing a list of his (greatest hits) or memories in his lifetime for Claire. It also shows you that Charlie inherited the DS ring from his brother who received it from there father and grandfather before them. It is a family heirloom and it is the reason behind the name of there band. He leaves the ring to Aaron but they don’t see it.

 

Early on he is told by Desmond that he has to die now in order for his most recent vision to come true, which is Claire and Aaron boarding a rescue helicopter. He is told that he will die in the underwater hatch after he turns off some switch he will end up drowning.

 

When the losties realize the others are coming tonight they no longer have time to prepare the dynamite since they don’t have enough wire from the plane wreckage. Three men will stay behind to shoot at the dynamite from a distance. Bernard Sayid and probably Jin. Jack and Danielle will lead the rest of the group to the transmission site Danielle is using for her distress signal.

 

Charlie of course volunteers to disable the Jamming device underwater. He and desmond follow the line using the outrigger. Charlie gives Desmond his list of (greatest hits) for Claire but just before he goes in Desmond volunteers to switch saying maybe the reason I see you is I’m supposed to trade places with you. Charlie says O.K. but as Desmond turns his back Charlie knocks him out with an Oar. Charlie goes in and comes up underneath the Hatch where the Submarine docking station is.

 

They knew the entrance was there because Sayid has the schematics manual. Charlie is so happy to get in and be alive he starts yelling. I’m alive Wooo! Two women run in with weapons and point it at him.

 

The End.

 

Insiderscoop

[pimptastic69 0]

Saw this spoiler for last night's episode, but resisted reading it till after I saw the show. Pretty accurate:

 

This InsiderScoop guy has been writing this for about a year. He's never missed. Rumor is that he works for an ABC affiliate and he watches the episode the day before so he can plan out the commercials.

 

I read a spoiler from another guy that included last nights episode and next week's. Last night's was accurate, so if he's got next week's right - it's pretty wild.

[phillybear 366]

****Since Dharman is dead on the island, yet continue to drop supplies, it seems like the island natives kept up appearances in the hatches so show Dharma elsewhere in the world that business as usual was happening. But when the Swan hatch blew up, Dharma elsewhere knew something was very wrong. Therefore, Naomi is from Dharma, sent to investigate what is wrong on the island. Further, Naomi may or may not be associated with Penny, but that could lead to Penny and/or Charles Widmore as key figures in the Dharma Initiative. So this means Dharma will invade, probably in the aftermath of next week's war. But Dharma may assume that the Others AND the Losties killed off the Dharma people, so that instead of a rescue mission, Dharma arrives at the island to exact revenge. This seems like the direction of Season 4.

 

A few random thoughts....

 

The people in the Looking Glass hatch could very well be more Dharma. If Juliet was telling the truth about the hatch being abandoned, then these are new people. Since the Swan hatch exploded, the Portuguese men picking up signs of the island, Naomi parachutted onto the island, and now we may very well have more people in the underwater hatch. A new threat on the island.

 

Turns out, it was Nadia that Charlie rescued during the mugging. Nadia is the woman that Sayid helped escape and the person in the picture that he carries. Nadia also was scene in a Locke flashback earlier, as the woman who's house he inspected just before he came home and was confronted by the men who were looking for Anthony Cooper. Basically, since Nadia is seen, that makes Sayid's back story unresolved. He can't die yet. I'll have to revisit my "odds of dying" list, and maybe do some updates.

 

I am now convinced that Charlie is Frodo, in constant danger. Desmond is Gandolf the Wise, seeing things no one else can. Ben is Smeagol, the bug eyed freak that is out of control.

[RLLD 4,275]

Ben is Gutter, the bug eyed freak that is out of control.

 

FIXED!

[nobody 2,791]

The people in the Looking Glass hatch could very well be more Dharma. If Juliet was telling the truth about the hatch being abandoned, then these are new people. Since the Swan hatch exploded, the Portuguese men picking up signs of the island, Naomi parachutted onto the island, and now we may very well have more people in the underwater hatch. A new threat on the island.

 

My guess is that one of the birds in the looking glass is Annie. Ben probably left them alone since he thinks she's the bee's knees and all.

[The Moz 71]

The Looking Glass is Dharma . After the gassing they Flooded the cave leading to it. MY guess is since we didn't see bens honey dead in Bens flash back she is there ! maybe even Ben is the person who flooded it to protect her.

 

Hmmmmmm who are 4 people to die ?

 

The Hobbit

the towel head

Ben

JUliette

[nobody 2,791]

The problem with guessing who's going to die is that there are a lot of red shirted star trek type guys that can get killed and it means nothing. If I was going to put money on someone we know dying though it would be Bernard since we haven't seen him for about 10 episodes and now all of the sudden he is on the frontline against the others.

[indybearsfan 0]

The problem with guessing who's going to die is that there are a lot of red shirted star trek type guys that can get killed and it means nothing. If I was going to put money on someone we know dying though it would be Bernard since we haven't seen him for about 10 episodes and now all of the sudden he is on the frontline against the others.

 

 

i still contend that when all is said in done, the two bodies found in the cave are going to turn out to be bernhard and his wife. each holding the others colored rock.

[phillybear 366]

During the Charlie flashback where he saved Nadia, we never saw Desmond. Was this a time loop where Desmond didn't meet Charlie And if that is the case, maybe that is why Charlie doesn't recognize Desmond on the island. Because of all the time loops, maybe Desmond met Charlie exactly once, while most of the time, he never meets Charlie on the street. Especially when he keeps saving Charlie, he is changing history.

[kutulu 1,692]

The Looking Glass is Dharma . After the gassing they Flooded the cave leading to it. MY guess is since we didn't see bens honey dead in Bens flash back she is there ! maybe even Ben is the person who flooded it to protect her.

 

Hmmmmmm who are 4 people to die ?

 

The Hobbit

the towel head

Ben

JUliette

 

 

Rumor has it that the dead are:

 

Charlie

Tom

Pryce

Naomi

and one more