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[phillybear 366]

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NEW YORK (AP) -- Still recovering from the Don Imus scandal, CBS Radio suspended two local shock jocks after they twice broadcast a racially charged prank call to employees at a Chinese restaurant.

The hosts of the daily morning show, WFNY-FM's ''The Dog House With JV and Elvis,'' have been suspended indefinitely without pay, CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo told The New York Times in an e-mail Monday. One of the hosts, Jeff Vandergrift, apologized on Monday's show, she said.

Local chapters of the Organization of Chinese Americans, an advocacy group, released a statement Sunday protesting the segment. By Monday, California state Sen. Leland Yee and others joined the campaign.

In the segment, broadcast on April 5 -- a day after the infamous Imus comment on CBS -- and again last week, a caller to a Chinese restaurant intersperses an order for takeout with lewd language.

The caller tells one female employee he wants to come to the restaurant to see her naked and refers to a part of her body as ''hot, Asian, spicy.'' The caller also attempts to order ''shrimp flied lice.''

The show's hosts, Vandergrift and Dan Lay, have been campaigning online and on the air in support of Imus since his firing for calling the Rutgers University women's basketball team ''nappy-headed hos'' on April 4.

A CBS Radio spokeswoman did not immediately respond to telephone and e-mail messages from The Associated Press late Monday.

Community advocates pushed for CBS to fire the hosts of the show, which can be heard only in the New York City area and on the Internet.

''If they don't fire the DJ's, it will be a double standard,'' said Vicki Shu Smolin, president of the New York City chapter of the Organization of Chinese Americans.

 

It's a mother focking witch hunt. This country should be ashamed of itself giving hate organizations power to destroy satire/comedy. Humor is being taken away, slow but surely.

 

Rap is currently in the process of being censored too. Wheee. The wheel keeps spinning.

[RLLD 4,230]

Rap is currently in the process of being censored too. Wheee. The wheel keeps spinning.

 

While I do disagree with all this nonsense, and find the way Imus and others are being treated to be repugnant, I must admit that the rap game needs attention.

 

I was really impressed when the NAACP finally stepped up and acknowledged the contribution of rap to the degredation of African Amercians. The hate it propagates for the acquisition of money makes it every bit as evil as the hate speech of Islam.

 

Kudos to someone to them for finally taking some steps to engage a relevant issue.

[NewbieJr 541]

If in the end, it meant that blacks could talk crap about white people, either, I'm all for it.

If it's just another example of one-way raciaol policies, than it's just BS.

[GettnHuge 2]

clean up the game

[RLLD 4,230]

If in the end, it meant that blacks could talk crap about white people, either, I'm all for it.

If it's just another example of one-way raciaol policies, than it's just BS.

 

Yes. But.... Expecting equality is not likely a reasonable effort right now. African Americans will continue to preach the propaganda of hate and race, at this point their leadership derives more value from fear and engendering victimization than from seeking equality.

 

Most importantly would be the benefit for society from a systemic movement away from that role as societies victim. If African Amercians can accept responsibility for their own fate and actions, we all win, and that should be our first goa. IMHO

[GobbleDog 996]

Let the market decide what's acceptable. If people think it's funny and are tuning in, why cancel it? If it isn't funny and people aren't tuning in, then it'll take care of itself.

[phillybear 366]

While I do disagree with all this nonsense, and find the way Imus and others are being treated to be repugnant, I must admit that the rap game needs attention.

 

I was really impressed when the NAACP finally stepped up and acknowledged the contribution of rap to the degredation of African Amercians. The hate it propagates for the acquisition of money makes it every bit as evil as the hate speech of Islam.

 

Kudos to someone to them for finally taking some steps to engage a relevant issue.

 

Somewhere out there, Tipper Gore is dancing a happy jig. Her dream of music censorship is getting closer to fruition.

 

The other way to look at it, all comedy, music, art, etc should be "anything goes". People simply can switch the channel, spin the dial, don't look or listen if you don't like it.

[MDC 7,401]

Hate organizations?

[Blitzen 0]

Yes. But.... Expecting equality is not likely a reasonable effort right now. African Americans will continue to preach the propaganda of hate and race, at this point their leadership derives more value from fear and engendering victimization than from seeking equality.

 

Most importantly would be the benefit for society from a systemic movement away from that role as societies victim. If African Amercians can accept responsibility for their own fate and actions, we all win, and that should be our first goa. IMHO

 

Just curious and I'm not fishing here but have there been cases where black radio hosts made lewd remarks about whites and got away with it despite pressure from pro-white groups? Honest question.

 

Personally, I think anybody (black, white, striped, whatever) who is down to using racism as material has basically run out of material.

[NewbieJr 541]

One of the funniest things I remember seeing was Richard Pryor doing an impersonation of a stuffy white guy. It is hilarious.

A white comedian doing the same thing about a black guy, would have Sharpton and Jackson all up in arms. There are huge differences that will never be solved.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Let the market decide what's acceptable. If people think it's funny and are tuning in, why cancel it? If it isn't funny and people aren't tuning in, then it'll take care of itself.

 

That is way too American for this country.

[RLLD 4,230]

Just curious and I'm not fishing here but have there been cases where black radio hosts made lewd remarks about whites and got away with it despite pressure from pro-white groups? Honest question.

 

Personally, I think anybody (black, white, striped, whatever) who is down to using racism as material has basically run out of material.

 

I have heard content on the local DC stations that would be considered similar to what Imus produced.

 

However, the duality of the current world is that an African American is somehow entitled to spout as much hatred and racism as they want, and no one will hold them accountable. Even Mencia gets away with saying some pretty sketchy stuff, but if Dane Cook were to say the same hateful stuff, suddenly the world is ending.

 

Instead, let's treat everyone the same, isnt that what "equality" is all about? If Imus can't say it, then neither can African Americans...on their radio shows, in their comedic performances, on their rap albums, or in interviews.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

Instead, let's treat everyone the same, isnt that what "equality" is all about? If Imus can't say it, then neither can African Americans...on their radio shows, in their comedic performances, on their rap albums, or in interviews.

It's never going to happen. They play the slavery-card as an excuse to over-react to anything that evers happens to them as a race. It's focking ridiculous.

[jets24 6]

Hard to believe after the Virginia Tech Massacre that anybody really gives a crap what a pair of shock jocks said to a Chinese restaurant.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

Just curious and I'm not fishing here but have there been cases where black radio hosts made lewd remarks about whites and got away with it despite pressure from pro-white groups? Honest question.

 

Personally, I think anybody (black, white, striped, whatever) who is down to using racism as material has basically run out of material.

Dunno about remarks against whites, but black radio hosts have gotten in trouble for being asses.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145524,00.html

 

NEW YORK — The host of a New York morning radio show and the rest of her on-air crew were suspended indefinitely Wednesday for airing a tasteless song parody that mocked victims of the catastrophic south Asia tsunami (search).

 

"What happened is morally and socially indefensible," said Rick Cummings, president of Emmis Radio (search), in announcing the disciplinary action. "All involved, myself included, are ashamed and deeply sorry. I know the members of the morning team are contrite. They know their actions here are inexcusable."

 

The song, a parody of the charity single "We Are the World," aired last Friday on Emmis station WQHT-FM, known locally as Hot 97. The station was subsequently flooded with thousands of angry phone calls demanding the firing of morning show host Tarsha Jones (search), known on air as Miss Jones.

 

 

 

I was calling for them to lose their jobs...because the parody sucked.

[Big Blue 06 195]

It's never going to happen. They play the slavery-card as an excuse to over-react to anything that evers happens to them as a race. It's focking ridiculous.

 

What do you mean "they"???? RACIST!!

[NewbieJr 541]

What do you mean "they"???? RACIST!!

I thought using the "n"word would be a little harsh.

[RLLD 4,230]

It's never going to happen. They play the slavery-card as an excuse to over-react to anything that evers happens to them as a race. It's focking ridiculous.

 

ITA. This is our reality, so long as we allow it. People are now beginning to finally understand that hate and racism is not some exclusive club, but instead it is a disease of society.

 

Racism is part of the African American fabric, and that segment of our society contributes more life to the festering disease than any other. The NAACP taking a stand is a promising occurence.

 

We as a people must identify the hate spewed by the likes of Imus, Al Sharpton and others and turn away from it. More importantly, stop simply accepting that racism is the automatic cause for seemingly enthnic issues.

 

Don't buy into the minority propaganda machine, think for yourself, that is how we rail against this stuff.

[Blitzen 0]

I have heard content on the local DC stations that would be considered similar to what Imus produced.

 

However, the duality of the current world is that an African American is somehow entitled to spout as much hatred and racism as they want, and no one will hold them accountable. Even Mencia gets away with saying some pretty sketchy stuff, but if Dane Cook were to say the same hateful stuff, suddenly the world is ending.

 

Instead, let's treat everyone the same, isnt that what "equality" is all about? If Imus can't say it, then neither can African Americans...on their radio shows, in their comedic performances, on their rap albums, or in interviews.

 

Are pro-white groups complaining?

[GobbleDog 996]

If Imus can't say it, then neither can African Americans...on their radio shows, in their comedic performances, on their rap albums, or in interviews.

Apparently CBS is concerned about their PC image, while Death Row records isn't. That creates different standards... but so what? Both are trying to maximize profits like all businesses do.

 

I think the Imus story and the rap music issue, are apples and oranges. But that isn't the way the media is presenting it... "Imus said something racist, but so does rap music. Therefore, either Imus should be allowed to say it, or rap music shouldn't!"

 

[RLLD 4,230]

Are pro-white groups complaining?

 

Right, object to the racist rants of an African Amercian in any capacity, and you are instantly labeled a racist, no...there will be no objection....

[TommyGavin 790]

 

The caller tells one female employee he wants to come to the restaurant to see her naked and refers to a part of her body as ''hot, Asian, spicy.'' The caller also attempts to order ''shrimp flied lice.''

 

Is that it ? thats how them people pronounce it. So CBS replays the episode and THEN these guys get suspended? Shouldnt CBS be to blame if they played the same segment TWICE ?

[itsbigmoni 1]

Its amazing how much white people b1tch about the "racism" black people have towards them. How they get more leeway than white people.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Its amazing how much white people b1tch about the "racism" black people have towards them. How they get more leeway than white people.

 

[gocolts 300]

I for one hope Imus sues. He could make a big statement for freedom of speech. It may go all the way to the SCOTUS.

 

Get'em Imus!!!!!!!!

[Cdub100 3,903]

clean up the game

 

[football_scooter 0]

This is unreal. My first thought was, "oh sh!t - the flood gates are opened."

 

Get over it people. Wah! The mean radio shock jock said something unflattering about my race, WAH!

 

If I had a nickel for every derogatory comment made about Jews on the radio & television in the last 30 years, I'd be one wealty kike. And that's just the Jews saying sh!t! See, that's one of the nice things about Jews - we're self deprecating - we have the ability to laugh at ourselves.

 

Chinese and blacks could learn a lot from that. Learn to embrace your stereotypes. And no, that doesn't mean hugging your ghetto-blaster young Jerome.

 

My god - Barry Sobel would be burned at the stake if he tried to do his routine about stereotypes these days. "chinese people are excelllent drivers....and all have huuuuge d!cks".

 

 

One of my favorite Howard Stern bits from back when he was funny was when they called one chinese restaurant and put them on hold, while calling another chinese restaurant, then had them repeat the order back from the 1st one as an order to the 2nd one.....the two restaurants couldn't understand each other and hillarity ensued.

 

So much for free speech in America.

[TommyGavin 790]

Its amazing how much white people b1tch about the "racism" black people have towards them. How they get more leeway than white people.

you stalking me Kumar ?

 

[jerryskids 6,790]

I think the Imus story and the rap music issue, are apples and oranges. But that isn't the way the media is presenting it... "Imus said something racist, but so does rap music. Therefore, either Imus should be allowed to say it, or rap music shouldn't!"

 

I disagree. In fact I think there are a lot of parallels. Both are artistic expression. Both air over public airwaves. Both are known to be racially offensive, so if you listen to them, caveat emptor.

 

I don't think Imus should have been fired, nor do I think rap should be censored, but I admit that I am intrigued to see how this "what is good for the goose is good for the gander" scenario plays out.

 

And as others have said, I'm glad to see prominent people in the black community finally admit that they need to start looking at their own. And by prominent I don't mean Sharpton or Jackson of course.

[RicemanX 20]

Being CHinese, I'm 100% offended when people use stupid asian accents. Especially public figures like radio DJs should not be doing sh1t like that. I mean really? saying "flied lice" is really that funny?

[TommyGavin 790]

Being CHinese, I'm 100% offended when people use stupid asian accents. Especially public figures like radio DJs should not be doing sh1t like that. I mean really? saying "flied lice" is really that funny?

but its COMEDY - Get over it.

[football_scooter 0]

Being CHinese, I'm 100% offended when people use stupid asian accents. Especially public figures like radio DJs should not be doing sh1t like that. I mean really? saying "flied lice" is really that funny?

 

Actually it is pretty funny if used in proper context - like a joke. Just as funny as talking about how the shortest thing in the world is a black guy's to-do list or how my Jewish brothers can have a party broken up by rolling a penny down the street. If you're really offended by any of these things, then you need to sack up, Johnny.

 

They're only as offensive as you are offended by them, and frankly being offended gives the predujuce power - try laughing it off instead. Not like they called you a zipperhead. Just saying.

 

And no, I'm not racist - I just don't care if people make fun of my race. People are idiots - why should I care what they say? That's the point.

[JT 137]

 

Most importantly would be the benefit for society from a systemic movement away from that role as societies victim. If African Amercians can accept responsibility for their own fate and actions, we all win, and that should be our first goa. IMHO

 

Wouldn't it be more beneficial if, as a society, we stopped resorting to racial and ethnic stereotypes as 'humor'? African-American culture included. Just seems to me too many are using this debate to attack the reaction of the target, rather than the thinly-veiled hatred and racism of the ones making the jokes.

 

For too long, too many on all sides of this have used the excuse 'but I'm not a racist'; just like the person that says 'I don't mean to interrupt' is about to do so, and 'no offense' means I'm going to say something offensive.

[phillybear 366]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial if, as a society, we stopped resorting to racial and ethnic stereotypes as 'humor'? African-American culture included. Just seems to me too many are using this debate to attack the reaction of the target, rather than the thinly-veiled hatred and racism of the ones making the jokes.

 

For too long, too many on all sides of this have used the excuse 'but I'm not a racist'; just like the person that says 'I don't mean to interrupt' is about to do so, and 'no offense' means I'm going to say something offensive.

 

Blazzing Saddles is one of the greatest movies ever made. By todays focked up standards being set by a small group of various bitter, humorless Americans, the script would have been rejected right away.

 

How sad is that?

 

Satire and jokes are not deserving the same scrutiny as a speech or regular dialogue. Never have been, up until suddenly now. It's comparing apples and avocados.

[Riddlen 1]

I think they should be fired for being unfunny asstards. that bit sounds TERRIBLE.

[JT 137]

Right, object to the racist rants of an African Amercian in any capacity, and you are instantly labeled a racist, no...there will be no objection....

 

A prominent spokesman for the Jewish community was interviewed at the height of the Imus story. He pointed out that Jews were subject to many of the same prejudices in the south that blacks were prior to the civil rights movement, and spoke specifically about being denied the right to stay in hotels. Jewish leaders were afraid to step up and fight the fight, but rode the coattails of blacks who were not. He drew the analogy to today, when you hear lots of white people complaining about what they perceive as a double standard, but are too gutless or disorganized to fight this infringement of their rights. They'd rather hide behind an internet alias, making hateful racist statements, than step forward and fight for something they claim to think is right.

 

I think they should be fired for being unfunny asstards. that bit sounds TERRIBLE.

 

lol...pretty much cuts to the chase. Just kind of highlights the fact that over-the-air radio is closer and closer to it's final death knell.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Wouldn't it be more beneficial if, as a society, we stopped resorting to racial and ethnic stereotypes as 'humor'? African-American culture included. Just seems to me too many are using this debate to attack the reaction of the target, rather than the thinly-veiled hatred and racism of the ones making the jokes.

 

For too long, too many on all sides of this have used the excuse 'but I'm not a racist'; just like the person that says 'I don't mean to interrupt' is about to do so, and 'no offense' means I'm going to say something offensive.

 

It's whiny douches like you that are rooning everyone's free speech. You want to get rid of racial and ethnic stereotypes? You want to pretend that we're all the same? Should we make it illegal? What's next, sexism? What about just everything offensive. get rid of it all? It's people like you I just want to strangle.

[GobbleDog 996]

I disagree. In fact I think there are a lot of parallels. Both are artistic expression. Both air over public airwaves. Both are known to be racially offensive, so if you listen to them, caveat emptor.

One works for CBS broadcasting over public air waves. The other works for Death Row Records where the message is heard via CDs. Apples and oranges.

[phillybear 366]

A prominent spokesman for the Jewish community was interviewed at the height of the Imus story. He pointed out that Jews were subject to many of the same prejudices in the south that blacks were prior to the civil rights movement, and spoke specifically about being denied the right to stay in hotels. Jewish leaders were afraid to step up and fight the fight, but rode the coattails of blacks who were not. He drew the analogy to today, when you hear lots of white people complaining about what they perceive as a double standard, but are too gutless or disorganized to fight this infringement of their rights. They'd rather hide behind an internet alias, making hateful racist statements, than step forward and fight for something they claim to think is right.

 

Interesting.

 

I just wanted to add, there was a last second organized protest for free speech in New York, outside the Today show on April 13th and 16th. Remember, Sharpton drew about 50 protestors a couple days prior. On Friday, about 50 people showed up to protest the Imus firing. The following Monday, hundreds showed up in support of free speech and to ridicule Sharpton and protest the Imus firing. Now, the Sharpton group got tons of national press and national media coverage. The free speech protesters might have gotten a brief mention on New York local TV. Infact, the TV studios near the protest pulled their shades down so that the protestors couldn't be seen by the TV audience.

 

The media continously sensationalizes everything. And I agree, only the vocal are getting heard. Doesn't matter that the vast majority of the country, based on every poll I have seen, believed that Imus did not deserve to be fired.

 

On the bright side, the companies that pulled out of the Imus show are starting to realize their folly, based on some article I read from a week and a half ago. Some of these companies have seen long time large clients and accounts walk away from them as backlash for their dumping their ads on Imus's show. But, it's too late now.

 

I think everyone can agree that all of this is a huge mess.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

One works for CBS broadcasting over public air waves. The other works for Death Row Records where the message is heard via CDs. Apples and oranges.

 

Absurd. Why is it different? There were no violations of FCC rules.