Question 1: Could you beat a grizzly bear in a fight with these weapons?

[porkbutt 893]

Can I team up with porkbutt?

 

I bet I could out run him

no you couldn't.

[rallo 136]

it's easy for me... the shotgun...

 

a lot of people are on the billiard ball/spear band wagon, but i don't think the billiard balls would do too much damage... and the bear would be swiping at you/ maybe batting away your spear... too risky for me

 

i take the shotgun any day... wait til he gets close and blow his haid off... if it doesn't fire i either can play dead and hope he loses interest, or take comfort in the fact that 'man mauled by grizzly bear' is a pretty cool obituary title

[Snuff 10]

So, you gotta be close for it to be effective? Ok, again, I'll take my chances with the shotgun. With the other options given, you'd likely have to be closer anyways. Thanks for confirming.

[Snoopy1 0]

If you got to choose just ONE GROUP of these weapons, and had to fight a grizzly bear to the death, what would you choose?

 

Group 1

Pepper Spray

Carpenters Knife (one of those things you load razor blades into)

 

Group 2

Metal Garbage Can Lid w/ handle

Aluminum Baseball Bat

 

Group 3

Wheel Barrow

Razor sharp dagger-style Knife with a 9" blade

 

Group 4

7' Oak Closet Rod that has been sharpened to a point

4 Billiard Balls

 

Group 5

A Single Shot 12 guage shotgun, loaded with a slug, but only has a 75% of firing

 

 

Anyone who chooses group 5 should know that a 12 gauge loaded with A SLUG, would be best served by taking the gun and shooting it into your own head, as to save yourself a very painful bear attack. Unless you stuck the shotgun down the bears throat before shooting, a 12 gauge doesn't have the stopping power nor the penetration to drop a bear.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Anyone who chooses group 5 should know that a 12 gauge loaded with A SLUG, would be best served by taking the gun and shooting it into your own head, as to save yourself a very painful bear attack. Unless you stuck the shotgun down the bears throat before shooting, a 12 gauge doesn't have the stopping power nor the penetration to drop a bear.

 

 

A 12 gauge slug is like 500 grains. It has the stopping power. Penetration is another thing, but a well placed slug would stop any bear in it's tracks.

 

http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/akforum/a...oting/53105.htm

 

"As I recall it fired a Hastings 3" slug weighing almost 600 grains and launched at around 1600 fps." That would drop a bear.

 

http://forums.gunbroker.com/post.asp?metho...&FORUM_ID=4

[Yer mom 2]

Bottom line...

 

7' sharpened oak closet rod still the best bet

[flap 1]

Depends - is the wheelbarrow made in China? If so, I would hide under it and wait for the bear to die from lead poisoning from ingested paint chips.

[Snoopy1 0]

A 12 gauge slug is like 500 grains. It has the stopping power. Penetration is another thing, but a well placed slug would stop any bear in it's tracks.

 

http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/akforum/a...oting/53105.htm

 

"As I recall it fired a Hastings 3" slug weighing almost 600 grains and launched at around 1600 fps." That would drop a bear.

 

http://forums.gunbroker.com/post.asp?metho...&FORUM_ID=4

 

 

I can find a 100 posts from other hunting forums that would disagree.

 

There's a real good reason you don't see people hunting 500+ pound animals using shotguns. At best, a 12 gauge would be used to scare a bear off. I'd be very surprised if I needed two hands to count all the people who've taken down 500+ bears with a 12 gauge.

 

Initial question is silly, but tons of relevant info about slugs vs large animals.

 

 

ETA: Besides your question said fight to the death, say you stop/knock over the bear with a 12 gauge. What are you supposed to do know with the one slug you supplied? Run up to it and try to beat it to death with the shotgun?

[dats007 1]

This guy used some extreme trickery to out smart the grizzly that he fought. But I don't know if I'd be that brave.

 

After watching these two go at it, I think the only way I'd step up to a Grizzly would be if I had the weapons of Group 5.

[GeminiV 0]

Also, wtf are you gonna do with a wheel barrow?

 

LOL

 

Clearly you've never watched The Princess Bride.

[RicemanX 20]

I'll gamble and go with 5

[edjr 6,591]

Also, wtf are you gonna do with a wheel barrow?

 

LOL

 

 

Find a hill, sit in it and pick the back up and roll away.

[hellothere 1]

Shotgun all the way. You are out of your mind to take any other choice. Though i may consider using it on myself momentarily to miss out of the being ripped apart fiasco.

[jrf361 0]

Obviously Group 3.

1) Dig yourself a 5 foot deep hole at the base of a steep hill.

2) Hide in tree above game trail.

3) Jump from tree onto the back of medium size doe deer which which will undoubtedly walk unsuspectingly beneath your tree. Plunge dagger into deer's jugular.

4) Place deer carcass in hole you've dug.

5) Situate wheelbarrow at top of hill aiming downward directly toward hole containing rotting deer.

6) Place as many rocks as possible into wheelbarrow.

7) Dig 3 6" trenches from wheels of wheelbarrow to hole ensuring stability and proper alignment.

8) Carve "Death Mobile" into paint on sides of wheelbarrow.

8) Attach dagger to front of wheelbarrow with rope woven from tree bark shaved off with dagger.

9) Attach another length of rope to log acting as a chock to keep the wheelbarrow in place. Run rope to your hiding place.

10) Wait in hiding place until bear smells bait and comes to investigate.

11) When bear pokes his sorry, sleeping 3 months straight, honey stealing, Baylor mascotting, fire fighting, Rex Grossman benching schnoz into the hole...yank rope to move log and send Death Mobile plummeting downhill torward startled bear who raises head just in time to be impaled through the skull and deep into the frontal cortex killing him instantly.

 

Unless, of course, Ditka is driving the bus. Then I'd hafta say da bears.

[dats007 1]

Obviously Group 3.

1) Dig yourself a 5 foot deep hole at the base of a steep hill.

2) Hide in tree above game trail.

3) Jump from tree onto the back of medium size doe deer which which will undoubtedly walk unsuspectingly beneath your tree. Plunge dagger into deer's jugular.

4) Place deer carcass in hole you've dug.

5) Situate wheelbarrow at top of hill aiming downward directly toward hole containing rotting deer.

6) Place as many rocks as possible into wheelbarrow.

7) Dig 3 6" trenches from wheels of wheelbarrow to hole ensuring stability and proper alignment.

8) Carve "Death Mobile" into paint on sides of wheelbarrow.

8) Attach dagger to front of wheelbarrow with rope woven from tree bark shaved off with dagger.

9) Attach another length of rope to log acting as a chock to keep the wheelbarrow in place. Run rope to your hiding place.

10) Wait in hiding place until bear smells bait and comes to investigate.

11) When bear pokes his sorry, sleeping 3 months straight, honey stealing, Baylor mascotting, fire fighting, Rex Grossman benching schnoz into the hole...yank rope to move log and send Death Mobile plummeting downhill torward startled bear who raises head just in time to be impaled through the skull and deep into the frontal cortex killing him instantly.

 

Unless, of course, Ditka is driving the bus. Then I'd hafta say da bears.

 

This is brilliant! I'm switching whatever I said earlier to this!

 

And it was only your second post!?!

[jrf361 0]

This is brilliant! I'm switching whatever I said earlier to this!

 

And it was only your second post!?!

 

Seemed like a new post every 3 years or so would be about right.

[lagarzlebrew 0]

Obviously Group 3.

1) Dig yourself a 5 foot deep hole at the base of a steep hill.

2) Hide in tree above game trail.

3) Jump from tree onto the back of medium size doe deer which which will undoubtedly walk unsuspectingly beneath your tree. Plunge dagger into deer's jugular.

4) Place deer carcass in hole you've dug.

5) Situate wheelbarrow at top of hill aiming downward directly toward hole containing rotting deer.

6) Place as many rocks as possible into wheelbarrow.

7) Dig 3 6" trenches from wheels of wheelbarrow to hole ensuring stability and proper alignment.

8) Carve "Death Mobile" into paint on sides of wheelbarrow.

8) Attach dagger to front of wheelbarrow with rope woven from tree bark shaved off with dagger.

9) Attach another length of rope to log acting as a chock to keep the wheelbarrow in place. Run rope to your hiding place.

10) Wait in hiding place until bear smells bait and comes to investigate.

11) When bear pokes his sorry, sleeping 3 months straight, honey stealing, Baylor mascotting, fire fighting, Rex Grossman benching schnoz into the hole...yank rope to move log and send Death Mobile plummeting downhill torward startled bear who raises head just in time to be impaled through the skull and deep into the frontal cortex killing him instantly.

 

Unless, of course, Ditka is driving the bus. Then I'd hafta say da bears.

Too much work. I'd rather just shoot myself with the shotgun

[Me_2006 14]

Gimme the focking gun. Just do the whole "play dead" routine til the bear comes up, and then blast it in the head. He might get a swipe or two in, but you're completely insane if you think you can joust a bear to death with a 7 foot wooden spear. That bear is pushing the spear off to the side and you don't have a chance. At least give me something that doesn't rely on me pushing it into a 500 pound animal.

 

Plus, billiard balls? Really? You could throw those at a PERSON and you're not going to stop them. A guy with a Def Leppard tattoo would beat your ass if all you have are billiard balls. You won't stop a bear.

 

 

I have no idea how a wheelbarrow would help, but I guess they could use it to cart your dead carcass out of the forrest after the bear is done with you.

 

 

Same with pepper spray and the other options. Say what you will about the gun, but it's really the only chance you've got. If nothing else it blinds the bear and gives you a remote chance of using your surroundings to kill it. I don't think pepper spray would work on a bear.

 

Great topic and awesome thread though. Come up with another of these.

[Yer mom 2]

Choke him out

[listen2me 23 1,873]

I'll take Lyoto Machida.

[Me_2006 14]

Obviously Group 3.

1) Dig yourself a 5 foot deep hole at the base of a steep hill.

2) Hide in tree above game trail.

3) Jump from tree onto the back of medium size doe deer which which will undoubtedly walk unsuspectingly beneath your tree. Plunge dagger into deer's jugular.

4) Place deer carcass in hole you've dug.

5) Situate wheelbarrow at top of hill aiming downward directly toward hole containing rotting deer.

6) Place as many rocks as possible into wheelbarrow.

7) Dig 3 6" trenches from wheels of wheelbarrow to hole ensuring stability and proper alignment.

8) Carve "Death Mobile" into paint on sides of wheelbarrow.

8) Attach dagger to front of wheelbarrow with rope woven from tree bark shaved off with dagger.

9) Attach another length of rope to log acting as a chock to keep the wheelbarrow in place. Run rope to your hiding place.

10) Wait in hiding place until bear smells bait and comes to investigate.

11) When bear pokes his sorry, sleeping 3 months straight, honey stealing, Baylor mascotting, fire fighting, Rex Grossman benching schnoz into the hole...yank rope to move log and send Death Mobile plummeting downhill torward startled bear who raises head just in time to be impaled through the skull and deep into the frontal cortex killing him instantly.

 

Unless, of course, Ditka is driving the bus. Then I'd hafta say da bears.

 

this guy should post more often. Jesus that's good stuff.

 

 

 

Also, Machida could take the bear. He wouldn't even get hit.

[jvirne 0]

You guys are a bunch of pussies.

 

I've already kicked a grizzly bear's ass and I didn't need any hardware store weapons to do it.

 

Don't believe me?

 

Here's the proof.

[Yer mom 2]

You guys are a bunch of pussies.

 

I've already kicked a grizzly bear's ass and I didn't need any hardware store weapons to do it.

 

Don't believe me?

 

Here's the proof.

 

You are my new god

[tubby_mcgee 701]

bump.

[jerryskids 6,799]

I originally went with the shotgun but change my vote to the 7 ft spear. I've trained with a long range bo staff since the original posting and feel comfortable that I could stop the initial onslaught and keep him enough at bay to make him give up. Well, more comfortable than with a single shotgun slug at 75%.

[gocolts 300]

All HHH would need is a folding steel chair.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS_EJv8EyEE

 

[tubby_mcgee 701]

Come up with another of these.

 

 

Okay...gimme a few minutes.

[rholio 339]

^{#5. I'm pretty sure I'm a better shot than the average bear.}

[edjr 6,591]

^{#5. I'm pretty sure I'm a better shot than the average bear.}

 

Would you have a pincanic basket?

[rholio 339]

 

Would you have a pincanic basket?

But of course, Boo Boo.

[parrot 789]

I feel like the shotgun with the slug is the best option. And you want to put it right under your chin before you pull the trigger, not in the back of your mouth.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

I feel like the shotgun with the slug is the best option. And you want to put it right under your chin before you pull the trigger, not in the back of your mouth.

 

Be careful about doing that. Had a kid come into our ER earlier this year who tried that method but succeeded only at removing his face below the eyebrows. Didn't even leave him unconscious for long.

 

(Yes, it looks just like the pictures from rotten.com in person).

[drobeski 3,061]

The Williams horses could kill them bare handed.

[The Moz 69]

None -- If the Grizzly was full grown any of the above senerios would only piss it off more than it already was. Only chance would be the shotgun and IF you got really close to shoot point blank at the neck.