Let's talk about this 100-0 High School Girls game

[Me_2006 14]

DALLAS - A Texas high school girls basketball team on the winning end of a 100-0 game has a case of blowout remorse.

 

Now officials from The Covenant School say they are trying to do the right thing by seeking a forfeit and apologizing for the margin of victory.

 

“It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened,” Kyle Queal, the head of the school, said in a statement, adding the forfeit was requested because “a victory without honor is a great loss.”

 

 

The private Christian school defeated Dallas Academy last week. Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

 

A parent who attended the game told The Associated Press that Covenant continued to make 3-pointers — even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

 

“I think the bad judgment was in the full-court press and the 3-point shots,” said Renee Peloza, whose daughter plays for Dallas Academy. “At some point, they should have backed off.”

 

Dallas Academy coach Jeremy Civello told The Dallas Morning News that the game turned into a “layup drill,” with the opposing team’s guards waiting to steal the ball and drive to the basket. Covenant scored 12 points in the fourth quarter and “finally eased up when they got to 100 with about four minutes left,” he said.

 

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with “learning differences,” such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

 

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become lopsided. There is, however, “a golden rule” that should have applied in this contest, said Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

 

“On a personal note, I told the coach of the losing team how much I admire their girls for continuing to compete against all odds,” Burleson said. “They showed much more character than the coach that allowed that score to get out of hand. It’s up to the coach to control the outcome.”

 

In the statement on the Covenant Web site, Queal said the game “does not reflect a Christ-like and honorable approach to competition. We humbly apologize for our actions and seek the forgiveness of Dallas Academy, TAPPS and our community.”

 

Covenant coach Micah Grimes did not immediately respond to a message left by The Associated Press on Thursday.

 

Queal said school officials met with Dallas Academy officials to apologize and praised “each member of the Dallas Academy Varsity Girls Basketball team for their strength, composure and fortitude in a game in which they clearly emerged the winner.”

 

Civello said he appreciated the gesture and has accepted the apology “with no ill feelings.”

 

At a shootaround Thursday, several Dallas Academy players said they were frustrated during the game but felt it was a learning opportunity. They also said they are excited about some of the attention they are receiving from the loss, including an invitation from Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to see an NBA game from his suite.

 

“Even if you are losing, you might as well keep playing,” said Shelby Hyatt, a freshman on the team. “Keep trying, and it’s going to be OK.”

 

Peloza said the coach and other parents praised the Dallas Academy girls afterward for limiting Covenant to 12 points in the fourth quarter. She added that neither her daughter nor her teammates seemed to dwell on the loss.

 

“Somewhere during that game they got caught up in the moment,” Peloza said of the Covenant players, fans and coaches. “Our girls just moved on. That’s the happy part of the story.”

 

 

Whatcha think?

[KSB2424 3,173]

This is not pro sports, its high school. The team shouldn't be pressing, shooting 3's, and stealing the ball up 80-0 in the second half. Especially considering it was against this school:

 

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with “learning differences,” such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

 

There is no other way around it. Sounds like the coach is remorseful so hopefully the public attention is a lesson learned.

[Eagles Green 34]

Whatcha think?

Well since that school has students with learning disorders........I...........um........................think that we should............pull out of Iraq and wait..............what was the question?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I think people are focusing to much on the 100 half of the 100-0.

 

Zero? I mean, a team of retarded chimpanzes throwing the ball randomly would be bound to make at least one basket on sheer chance. Those girls must have some severe difficulties.

 

Perhaps the solution to this problem is to not allow a tiny learning disabled school to compete in a league where they will continually be embarassed.

 

But yes, the coach of that team should be ashamed. To let your team run full court presses and shoot fourth quarter three's so that you can get to 100 pts against a team of handicapped girls that haven't won in four years? That's a pretty richard move.

 

I think since I was up 59-0 at the half, I would have just instructed my point guard to stand at mid-court dribbling the ball, and the other four to shield her. If there was not shot clock, run out the time that way. If there is, wait till its to 1, then chuck a hail mary half court shot, and play D.

[KSB2424 3,173]

I think people are focusing to much on the 100 half of the 100-0.

 

Zero? I mean, a team of retarded chimpanzes throwing the ball randomly would be bound to make at least one basket on sheer chance. Those girls must have some severe difficulties.

 

Perhaps the solution to this problem is to not allow a tiny learning disabled school to compete in a league where they will continually be embarassed.

This is just a wonderful post by you. Kudos.

 

Now back to reality.....

 

There is more to high school sports than just wins and losses. Anybody that has played sports knows what a big catalyst it can be for helping in other areas in a young persons home life, academic life, social life, ect. Especially with young people with learning disabilities. And it appears the actual losing team players don't really have a problem with it and don't want the attention. But way to blame them somehow anyway.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

This is just a wonderful post by you. Kudos.

 

Now back to reality.....

 

There is more to high school sports than just wins and losses. Anybody that has played sports knows what a big catalyst it can be for helping in other areas in a young persons home life, academic life, social life, ect. Especially with young people with learning disabilities. And it appears the actual losing team players don't really have a problem with it and don't want the attention. But way to blame them somehow anyway.

 

I'm not blaming them. It certainly isn't their fault. But you gotta figure that having a group of basically retarded girls regularly getting their sh!t pushed in isn't very good for them. And the losing team "doesn't want the attention" but they'll happily go sit with Mark Cuban in his box?

 

I'm just saying, form a special olympics type league or something. Don't subject these girls to this kind of crap.

[surferskin 31]

Who knew Belicheat coached girls HS basketball in his spare time?

[KSB2424 3,173]

a group of basically retarded girls

They have learning disabilites not focking downs syndrome.

 

Fock, there are NBA players with learning disabilites. It's not there disability that henders the team it is the fact that they go to a school that is small so they can have small class sizes so the teacher can focus more one on one attention to them. When all you have is 20 girls to pick a team from then that team is prolly gonna suck.

 

It appears they don't mind sucking at bball either and don't want the attention. It's more of the outside people wondering what kind of scumbag coach continues to press and shoot threes up 80-0 in the second half of a high school game.

[surferskin 31]

Sweep the leg.

[FeelingMN 273]

specializes in teaching students struggling with “learning differences,” such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

 

 

 

several Dallas Academy players said they were frustrated during the game but felt it was a learning opportunity.

 

I'm sure these kids are just repeating what their coach told them. Perhaps he should reevaluate his approach.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

They have learning disabilites not focking downs syndrome.

 

Fock, there are NBA players with learning disabilites. It's not there disability that henders the team it is the fact that they go to a school that is small so they can have small class sizes so the teacher can focus more one on one attention to them. When all you have is 20 girls to pick a team from then that team is prolly gonna suck.

 

It appears they don't mind sucking at bball either and don't want the attention. It's more of the outside people wondering what kind of scumbag coach continues to press and shoot threes up 80-0 in the second half of a high school game.

 

I agree that the coach of the winning team is a scumbag, and if I were the headmaster, he would have been fired in the mid third quarter, and I'd have forfieted the game.

 

But to not score even one single point? You really think that the other team (also a private school) is stacked with WNBA talent, playing smothering D? I mean, hell, these are presumably affluent white girls here. You figure there were at least a few foul shots or something. Maybe I'm overestimating the disability here, but I gotta figure they are fairly severe to get shut out in basketball.

[edjr 6,898]

it's good to see something like this.

 

kids need to learn that things aren't always going to go there way and sometimes, they might get their throat stepped on.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Well since that school has students with learning disorders........I...........um........................think that we should............pull out of Iraq and wait..............what was the question?

 

Maps...go with maps for us US Americans.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

kids need to learn that things aren't always going to go there way and sometimes, they might get their throat stepped on.

 

I agree, to that extent.

 

I always thought it was crazy that at my college, if you were blind or something, they would pay other students for their notes, and transcribe them for you, and pay somebody to assist you in the library, and whatnot. I mean, they are eventually going to graduate with a degree, and apply for a job. How do you think this interview will go?

 

"Yes sir, I will work really hard. Oh, by the way, I'm going to need a staff of 3 people to do my clerical duties for me, I assume that won't be a problem."

 

I figure that you are supposed to learn how to overcome your disability, and function to the best of your ability around it.

 

These girls I guess are learning that the world is full of dooshbags that have no problem stomping on them. I suppose that's a vauable lesson.

 

Meanwhile, by the school forfieting, and the media coverage, the girls on the winning team learned that if you act like a total piece of sh!t, you will reap what you sow.

 

I mean, none of those girls became disgusted, and started missing shots, or took themselves out of the game? Sports are supposed to teach character, and it obviously wasn't at that school.

[cbfalcon 827]

Fact is these retarded girls are going to figuratively get beat 100-0 at anything they attempt in life, so this game just serves as the best preparation for life they'll ever receive.

 

Bravo to the opposing team for doing these kids a favor!

[parrot 789]

it's good to see something like this.

 

kids need to learn that things aren't always going to go there way and sometimes, they might get their throat stepped on.

 

Somehow I think the girls from the "special" school probably already know this lesson pretty well.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

I agree the pressing and 3s were uncalled for and pretty pathetic, but other than that what do people want them to do? Dribble in circles for the last 3/4ths of the game? If your team couldn't beat a group of first graders you probably shouldn't have one.

[wiffleball 4,797]

No, my problem is the coaches comments after the fact - after he found out he was in trouble and had royally screwed up:

 

"It just happened". (IF ANYBODY CAN FIND THE WHOLE QUOTE, I'D APPRECIATE IT) Mike and Mike were nailing this guy for that. No, doing a full press, shooting 3-s - those things don't "Just happen". What are you? Focking 5 years old??. The game's an hour long and you were pressing & 3'ing with 4 minutes left to go. - Nothing "just happened"

 

Here's my favorite part. Covenant is a private CHRISTIAN school.

 

...and there you go.

[wiffleball 4,797]

I agree the pressing and 3s were uncalled for and pretty pathetic, but other than that what do people want them to do? Dribble in circles for the last 3/4ths of the game? If your team couldn't beat a group of first graders you probably shouldn't have one.

 

Okay, not going to attack you, it's a valid question. M&M talked to one of the ESPN producers - a woman who volunteer coaches freshmen girls basketball. Here's the rule she has in place for her squad:

 

 

If you're up by 20+ points or more, the following things happen:

1. You have to pass at least ten times before taking a shot
   
2. No shots from more than 8 feet from the basket
   
3. Pull your starters
   
4. Everyone plays.
   

- Pretty solid set of rules. You don't need to have a "mercy rule", you need coaches with at least a modicum of character.

[cbfalcon 827]

Can sizes of any of the "special" high school girls?

[parrot 789]

Okay, not going to attack you, it's a valid question. M&M talked to one of the ESPN producers - a woman who volunteer coaches freshmen girls basketball. Here's the rule she has in place for her squad:

If you're up by 20+ points or more, the following things happen:

1. You have to pass at least ten times before taking a shot
   
2. No shots from more than 8 feet from the basket
   
3. Pull your starters
   
4. Everyone plays.
   

- Pretty solid set of rules. You don't need to have a "mercy rule", you need coaches with at least a modicum of character.

 

 

Their point guard had 48 points, many apparently coming off steals at halfcourt and resulting layups. Just getting her out of the game probably would have helped a lot.

 

Nothing wrong with a mercy rule either though. Montana just put one in this year where the clock doesn't stop in the second half except for free throws and timeouts, once one team is up by thirty I think.

[SUXBNME 1,594]

Helmet sizes of any of the "special" high school girls?

 

Fixed and a 1 way track to hell.

[cbfalcon 827]

Fixed and a 1 way track to hell.

 

You are just sick.

[Eagles Green 34]

Can sizes of any of the "special" high school girls?

34 ADHD

 

 

[edjr 6,898]

34 ADHD

 

[Me_2006 14]

34 ADHD

 

 

Really though, I'm torn on this.

 

Obviously the coach of the winning team is a scumbag, and a 100-0 nothing win doesn't just happen. That's planned. 100-0 is WAAAAAAAY too even and ridiculous to just happen. Maybe 73-9 happens. 100-0 is "let's beat this team 100-0."

 

On the other hand, you have to question the adults who put these other girls in a situation for this to happen. No, a team shouldn't run it up like that. But shouldn't there be some sort of division for these scenarios? I mean, I know they have different classes and such in Texor, why not expand on that in this case? What benefit does it do these girls to go out and be completely uncompetitive? It almost borders on exploitation that something wasn't done about this beforehand. Hopefully the public scrutiny will spark some time of productive resolution.

[Me_2006 14]

bump for my boy Moz.

[The Moz 71]

bump for my boy Moz.

 

 

Sorry - I only just learned how to read.

[Me_2006 14]

Apparently the fans at the game were cheering for 100pts and they continued to press until it was 100-0. Then they held the ball the remaining 4 minutes.

 

 

Wow.

 

 

 

Also, why wouldn't the coach of the other team forfeit at halftime? It's 59-0 and you coach a team like that. At least ask your players at halftime, and if they want to come back out and play--you can bet your ass they're motivated.

 

 

Oh, and the boys team WON after their girls were beaten 100-0.

[SUXBNME 1,594]

You are just sick.

I wonder how good their dribbling skills are...

[KSB2424 3,173]

Also, why wouldn't the coach of the other team forfeit at halftime? It's 59-0 and you coach a team like that. At least ask your players at halftime, and if they want to come back out and play--you can bet your ass they're motivated.

Forfeit? No, you play the game. And you get beat by whatever. You don't forfeit. Me thinks you never played sports before after t-ball.

 

Also both these teams are in a league for private schools church schools. It's not like one team is 5A and one is some little 1A school.

 

Not sure why you keep trying to bring up the team that lost. The players weren't whining about it. It's the outside observers that are just calling out the scumbag coach of the other team as they should.

[Me_2006 14]

Forfeit? No, you play the game. And you get beat by whatever. You don't forfeit. Me thinks you never played sports before after t-ball.

 

Also both these teams are in a league for private schools church schools. It's not like one team is 5A and one is some little 1A school.

 

Not sure why you keep trying to bring up the team that lost. The players weren't whining about it. It's the outside observers that are just calling out the scumbag coach of the other team as they should.

I'm saying that as the other coach, I'm getting my girls out of that situation. If I have to go choke the other coach on the sideline, I'm doing it. Obviously you don't forfeit, but at what point do you realize this is getting out of hand and stop it?

 

 

Also, it's a tip that throwing over the press. How bad of a coach do you have to be to not score?

[wiffleball 4,797]

I'm saying that as the other coach, I'm getting my girls out of that situation. If I have to go choke the other coach on the sideline, I'm doing it. Obviously you don't forfeit, but at what point do you realize this is getting out of hand and stop it?

 

You don't. You keep playing. You play your best, do your best and, regardless of score, you keep playing. That way, just like this time, when the game is done, you walk out holding your head high and the other guys look like classless jerks. That's the lesson these girls learned - no matter what, no matter how big the opponent, no matter the odds, you keep playing. M&M said the same thing this morning. Now, these girls are getting rewarded. And the other team? Derided.

[kutulu 1,703]

Just tell the retards they won...they won't know any better.

[DuckStupid 40]

Okay, not going to attack you, it's a valid question. M&M talked to one of the ESPN producers - a woman who volunteer coaches freshmen girls basketball. Here's the rule she has in place for her squad:

If you're up by 20+ points or more, the following things happen:

1. You have to pass at least ten times before taking a shot
   
2. No shots from more than 8 feet from the basket
   
3. Pull your starters
   
4. Everyone plays.
   

- Pretty solid set of rules. You don't need to have a "mercy rule", you need coaches with at least a modicum of character.

 

Gotta say this is one of the few times I agree with Wiffle. All great points. Also, I'd make my team shoot ALL shots with their opposite hand. They might as well work on something fundamental rather than running up the score.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Gotta say this is one of the few times I agree with Wiffle. All great points. Also, I'd make my team shoot ALL shots with their opposite hand. They might as well work on something fundamental rather than running up the score.

[ADD1CT36 1]

i think they learned a good lesson on psychological phenomenon called mob mentality.

[phillybear 366]

I'm furious. Why the fock do you ease up just because you reach 100. What? You don't want your subs getting playing time, having some fun, but instead you start killing clock. Fock you, coach.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Ah, here's the quote I was looking for. Here's a more thorough article.

 

In a brief e-mail statement Wednesday evening, Covenant coach Micah Grimes called his team's 100-point total "unfortunate."

 

"It just happened, and we are not happy about that," Grimes wrote. "Please know Covenant intended no harm against them. I see this as a real learning opportunity, so we can prevent this from happening in the future."

 

 

It just happened. I can't believe this POS said that. You're NOT happy about it? 'Cause apparenly you guys sure LOOKED happy enough out there. It's telling to note that Covenant only issued their 'apology' a weekly later - on the SAME DAY that the Dallas Morning News was to reveal the story. That's not "I'm sorry", that's "I'm sorry I got caught". The school is no different than their POS coach in that regard.

[Yer mom 2]

I'm furious. Why the fock do you ease up just because you reach 100. What? You don't want your subs getting playing time, having some fun, but instead you start killing clock. Fock you, coach.

 

I had the total too