Why do people have their drafts this early?

[Fearsome 22]

I am always seeing on this board threads about guys who lost their starting whatever in a pre-season game on August whenever! Why do leagues draft this early? Other than being anxious, I think it does more harm than good. Injuries, roster moves such as cuts, trades and depth chart changes are being finalized until kickoff in week one.

 

My league drafts on Labor Day every year. It allows us to wrap-up a holiday weekend in style. It also allows everyone in the league to have the most up-to-date information going into the season which starts just three days later. I saw that Steve Smith is hurt. If he is out for the year I will know that going in. If I had drafted last week, there goes a number 2 or 3 pick.

 

I just don't agree with the thinking at all...

[MTSkiBum 1,625]

My main league drafted last weekend. We had our draft early this year because of my sisters pregnancy. She is due in mid-late august and we didnt want it interfering with the draft. Both my sister and her husband are in the league, it was bad planning on their part

[jaguilar2549 0]

I won't disagree with you, but our league has always drafted the Saturday before the Hall of Fame game. The first draft we did was originally out of necessity due to the fact that we are all in the military and could not coordinate a better time for the majority of the owners involved. This forced owners to pay attention to the preseason and their players. It was great for drama and sh!t talking. Yeah, there is the risk of injury, but not like there isn't the same risk during the season. For us and most likely for many others, drafting early is just a matter of timing or simply just a way to get your adrenaline pumping during the preseason. Either way, to each his own, as long as you are having fun I say.

[RoadLizard 73]

Good question. Its completely stoopid. I wouldnt even be in a league that drafted before August 30th. If it was up to me I would have the draft 2 days before the season starts. I know there are some extreme cases, but draft dates need to be set well in advance and then there shouldnt be ANY excuse of why an owner cant make it. I focking hate people that find it difficult to set aside ONE day for a fantasy draft, especially when they know about the date 6 months in advance.

 

Lame.

[PackYourNut 47]

Schedule conflicts! That is typically the same reason every year. In our league we all have wives, kids, jobs etc. It's easy for me to say fock everything else, but for some guys... well, lets just say... they ain't wearing the pants!

[Bert 1,128]

For you little girls who can't afford to travel over the Labor day weekend, do a lame ass serpentine draft and/or draft over the inter webs it is easy to find 2 hours to do a draft. Trying to conduct a live auction draft with 14 guys from 4 different states (and I don't mean those tiny east coast states where you have 5 states on one puzzle piece) is a bit of a challenge. Further the NFL focked up the perfect football weekend with the abortion that is a Thursday opening game. For more than a decade we drafted the Saturday before the season opened but no more thanks to the Thursday game bullsh!t.

[tubby_mcgee 701]

I think it does more harm than good. Injuries, roster moves such as cuts, trades and depth chart changes are being finalized until kickoff in week one.

 

 

 

Does your league make a few guys draft earlier than others or does everyone draft on the same day?

 

 

 

It doesn't focking matter when you have your draft. It's the same disadvantage or advanage for everyone.

 

Whining about when a draft is, is along the same lines of whining about a scoring system.

[RoadLizard 73]

Schedule conflicts! That is typically the same reason every year. In our league we all have wives, kids, jobs etc. It's easy for me to say fock everything else, but for some guys... well, lets just say... they ain't wearing the pants!

 

We all have wives, kids, and houses. Thats the oldest and lamest excuse in the book, IMO. Its called setting the date and making sure the beeotch KNOWS the date. Just like when she pencils in Aunt Hildas 50th birthday party that you get sucked into...it works BOTH ways and when you pencil in something then she and the kids will just have to wing it for those precious 3 hours that you're gone. Focking unreal...

 

Guys who cant get away from the ball and chain for 3 hours with a large advance notice shouldnt even be allowed in the league. They need to get their balls re-attached. We actually have a rule that states you MUST be at the draft or have draft representation. Other than true medical emergencies there are NO exceptions. NO drafting for two teams. NO supplying a list for another owner to use and draft for you with. This is how it must be. All 12 teams must have their own drafter.

[Bert 1,128]

Other than true medical emergencies there are NO exceptions. NO drafting for two teams. NO supplying a list for another owner to use and draft for you with. This is how it must be. All 12 teams must have their own drafter.

 

What do you do about cancelled flights since there are only exceptions for medical emergencies?

[edjr 6,740]

[BoltAddiction 0]

We all have wives, kids, and houses. Thats the oldest and lamest excuse in the book, IMO. Its called setting the date and making sure the beeotch KNOWS the date. Just like when she pencils in Aunt Hildas 50th birthday party that you get sucked into...it works BOTH ways and when you pencil in something then she and the kids will just have to wing it for those precious 3 hours that you're gone. Focking unreal...

 

Guys who cant get away from the ball and chain for 3 hours with a large advance notice shouldnt even be allowed in the league. They need to get their balls re-attached. We actually have a rule that states you MUST be at the draft or have draft representation. Other than true medical emergencies there are NO exceptions. NO drafting for two teams. NO supplying a list for another owner to use and draft for you with. This is how it must be. All 12 teams must have their own drafter.

There is nothing quite like a fanatic who can tell everyone else how to live their life. It worked well for Charles Manson and Jim Jones. How's it working for you RoadLizard?

[yostevo 0]

Why do a dynasty league when you have to manage your team all year round? My point being is that fantasy football is a continually evolving 365 day event. Do you think that just because you do a draft on Sept 6th. that you have to manage less or draft with less knowledge because you let the preaseason play out? A week later and every week thereafter it will all be different anyways.

 

I guess a better question would be: "Is there a bad time to be doing fantasy football?"

 

The answer is no. YW

[mgs316 14]

Ummmm, maybe it's a group of friends can only get together at certains times.

 

We have a golf tourney every year at end of August where everyone comes home. Would we like to draft later, sure, but try getting everyone to come back home for just a FF is impossible.

 

Yes, we know all you who draft the day before the first game are far superior fantasy football players.

[nzoner 937]

Further the NFL focked up the perfect football weekend with the abortion that is a Thursday opening game. For more than a decade we drafted the Saturday before the season opened but no more thanks to the Thursday game bullsh!t.

 

Absolutely agree,however,I joined a league that has an interesting twist to this.You still draft the Saturday before opening Sunday and can count any Thursday player stats if you draft Thursday players.At first I didn't like it but after doing it a few years it can add some twists to the draft when you get an owner who changes his strategy based on a lower ranked player having a good outing which may end up being the player's best game of the season.

[dehaven123 31]

I dont disagree w/ you, that's why we have our draft right after the NFL draft.

Waiting til August sux.

 

 

 

 

 

Seriously though, I think its just a way to keep the football on the brain.

It's the only league I'm in that does it that way, all others wait until end Aug/early Sep.

Besides, everyone else in the league deals w/ the same parameters.

[Ray_T 766]

well, there is also the challenge of predicting which players make the team etc.

 

I think its a matter of preference. some like the challenge. Others do not.

 

we usually draft the 1 or 2 weekends before the season starts. By this time you can usually figure out who will start and who will sit.

[PATSSOX 22]

i dont like to draft too early but also dont like to draft the week before season starts.

 

drafting early:

advantages-gives the people who read and know more about fantasy football an edge.(example: if had early draft you could probably get Anthony Gonzalez in 8th-10th round. now he will probably go from 4th-7th round)

-also dont have to wait as long and can sit at work and stare at team and waiver wire

 

disadvantage-your #1 back breaks his leg 1st preseason game

 

drafting late:

advantages-you know who is hurt and who is not and most players roles are set

 

disadvantages-little time to go over roster and make any roster moves(trades)

-have to wait to draft

[Boston Three Party 6]

Our first live draft is next Thursday - I understand injuries - but its a risk we take in the reg season anyways - my only downside is I was sleeping on Bryant again this year and he's got the bum knee.

 

This is my first year as commish so I'm down to get going FIRST, I literally have drafts back to back to back to back this year. It's insane and I had to schedule around them.

[RoadLizard 73]

There is nothing quite like a fanatic who can tell everyone else how to live their life. It worked well for Charles Manson and Jim Jones. How's it working for you RoadLizard?

 

A fanatic? Because I dont find it a BIG committment to ask people for 3 hours of their time ONE focking day a year with a minimum of 5-6 months advance notice? This has what to do with Charles Manson? Telling people how to live their lives? HUH?

 

Just quit fantasy football then. Then you wont have the heavy burden of drafting and participating in such a demanding sport as fantasy football. More quality time(simulated jerking-off motion enacted here) with the family will ensue. Thats good for America. Un. forking. believable. Your wife must keep your balls in a jar on top of the fridge or something. Did she allow you to post on this board or are you sneaking it?

 

Are you serious? Cant be... please tell me you forgot to include the sarcasm smiley icon....

[RoadLizard 73]

Ummmm, maybe it's a group of friends can only get together at certains times.

 

We have a golf tourney every year at end of August where everyone comes home. Would we like to draft later, sure, but try getting everyone to come back home for just a FF is impossible.

 

Yes, we know all you who draft the day before the first game are far superior fantasy football players.

 

You cant do the draft on another weekend later in August? Do you have to do it really early or whatever?

 

I guess Im just insensitive to the common man's struggles with something as simple as a few hours set aside for a fantasy draft..which should also be a chance to do a little socializing with other owners. Some owners treat it like such a burden...like "Oh ######, I have to go to a fantasy football draft, Id much rather sit home or go to my inlaws and pick my ass..."

 

Geezus.

[RoadLizard 73]

What do you do about cancelled flights since there are only exceptions for medical emergencies?

 

Nice! Rules have been updated!!! Cancelled flights are now included as an excuse..albeit still lame.

[Bert 1,128]

Nice! Rules have been updated!!! Cancelled flights are now included as an excuse..albeit still lame.

 

Good. Now hopefully you will realize that it is harder to schedule some drafts, not because people can't make a commitment, but because some league drafts are much more complex than your simpleton serpentine with 12 yahoos that live within a 20 mile radius.

[jaguilar2549 0]

So I guess having the majority of your owners going to different locations where internet access is limited or not available doesn't count as a reason to draft early? Give me a break... What does it matter anyways?...Ok it's stupid to you...so what?

[Melissa Stark 1]

MY league's draft is Aug 22. About 2 weeks early.

 

It's the same every year, so no excuses to miss or have someone draft for you.

 

As for drafting on Labor Day, get real. most people have lives and family, travel,vacation.

[RoadLizard 73]

Good. Now hopefully you will realize that it is harder to schedule some drafts, not because people can't make a commitment, but because some league drafts are much more complex than your simpleton serpentine with 12 yahoos that live within a 20 mile radius.

 

Complex? Why? You draft a player and then the next guy goes. Oh wait, I know, you're one of those smart people that "take control" of your fantasy draft with the almighty auction style draft! Yeah...thats pretty solid.... you guys must feel important doing your draft like that.

 

Scheduling a draft is easy. Set the date. Send an e-mail with said date in it. Supply an address and a time that people should arrive. Easy. Whats the problem? True, it wont work for spineless weenies who are on a short leash and have to get permission from the "Boss" before they even take a piss ,let alone attend a fantasy football draft.

 

Yeah, what a bummer, we happen to live fairly close to each other and have had the same people in the league for 12 years. Yup, too bad, no reason why any fantasy league would want that.

 

Bert - I dunno about you buddy....

[RoadLizard 73]

MY league's draft is Aug 22. About 2 weeks early.

 

It's the same every year, so no excuses to miss or have someone draft for you.

 

As for drafting on Labor Day, get real. most people have lives and family, travel,vacation.

 

Nothing wrong with this. two weeks isnt that early and you are setting the date well ahead of time. Labor Day? Nah, that usually doesnt work but its understandable. For any other date though the only excuse is that the wifey runs the household and you arent allowed out that day until your chores are done.

[Bert 1,128]

Complex? Why? You draft a player and then the next guy goes. Oh wait, I know, you're one of those smart people that "take control" of your fantasy draft with the almighty auction style draft! Yeah...thats pretty solid.... you guys must feel important doing your draft like that.

 

Scheduling a draft is easy. Set the date. Send an e-mail with said date in it. Supply an address and a time that people should arrive. Easy. Whats the problem? True, it wont work for spineless weenies who are on a short leash and have to get permission from the "Boss" before they even take a piss ,let alone attend a fantasy football draft.

 

Yeah, what a bummer, we happen to live fairly close to each other and have had the same people in the league for 12 years. Yup, too bad, no reason why any fantasy league would want that.

 

Bert - I dunno about you buddy....

 

12 years? When you get to 20 let me know.

 

We don't feel important but using an auction weeds out the simpletons. Any monkey can print off a cheat sheet, show up to your draft and in 2 hours draft a very good team. We don't enjoy that so we have an auction which means we need 5-6 hours for a draft not 2-3. We also play golf the morning before and play poker after the draft so we have to schedule a whole day not a couple of hours.

 

Same guys for 12 years and they all still live next to each other. I guess ya'll all work at the same plant and it was the same plant your daddies worked at? Look you have a simple draft and the people in your league apparently punch a clock or work structured 9 to 5 Monday - Friday type jobs. That's good for you I'm happy as hell that your life is that simple but you should not assume everybody else has the simple structure you do.

 

As for spineless weenies you have no focking idea what you are talking about. Our draft dates are sometimes early not because of wives or girl friends but because of work commitments. I know it is hard for a blue collar guy like yourself to imagine having to travel for work and having to work on weekends but we have guys in our league that could be and have been out of the Country for months at a time. We have guys that travel 75% of time for work. And As I mentioned we also have guys from coast to coast that fly in for the draft.

 

Please quit assuming that draft dates are only early because guys won't stand up to their wives.

 

If you can't understand this concept there is really no hope for you.

[Mike MacGregor 21]

So last year you draft Brady in one league a month before the season starts, and another league a day before the season starts. What is the difference?

 

Strongly agree with tubby_mcgee.

 

Does your league make a few guys draft earlier than others or does everyone draft on the same day?

 

It doesn't focking matter when you have your draft. It's the same disadvantage or advanage for everyone.

 

What the heck else is there to do through June and July? I once did a dynasty draft in Feb-Mar. It was great.

[RoadLizard 73]

12 years? When you get to 20 let me know.

 

We don't feel important but using an auction weeds out the simpletons. Any monkey can print off a cheat sheet, show up to your draft and in 2 hours draft a very good team. We don't enjoy that so we have an auction which means we need 5-6 hours for a draft not 2-3. We also play golf the morning before and play poker after the draft so we have to schedule a whole day not a couple of hours.

 

Same guys for 12 years and they all still live next to each other. I guess ya'll all work at the same plant and it was the same plant your daddies worked at? Look you have a simple draft and the people in your league apparently punch a clock or work structured 9 to 5 Monday - Friday type jobs. That's good for you I'm happy as hell that your life is that simple but you should not assume everybody else has the simple structure you do.

 

As for spineless weenies you have no focking idea what you are talking about. Our draft dates are sometimes early not because of wives or girl friends but because of work commitments. I know it is hard for a blue collar guy like yourself to imagine having to travel for work and having to work on weekends but we have guys in our league that could be and have been out of the Country for months at a time. We have guys that travel 75% of time for work. And As I mentioned we also have guys from coast to coast that fly in for the draft.

 

Please quit assuming that draft dates are only early because guys won't stand up to their wives.

 

If you can't understand this concept there is really no hope for you.

 

Blue collar? You make a lot of assumptions. Travel a lot? You guys must all be a bunch of weenie salesmen that think your big shots. Greasy hair, gold trim on the Honda Accord company car, $5.00 dollar a gallon cologne so your cigarette breath doesnt offend any clients. Focking laughable. And you DO have an idea what you're talking about? Just because we have normal jobs and careers(all types of careers) and dont piss away our lives working all weekend doesnt mean we have simpleton anything. Maybe we are smart enough to NOT have work weekends like you and your loser-clan. So not only does the wife got your nutsack chained up but the boss does too. What a suckah. Enjoy your stress related heart-attack coming soon. Golf outings is a sure sign of some half-assed salesman repertoire. I bet you guys have the Taylor Made drivers to further accentuate your insane slice. Prolly all take calls during golf on your cell phones too to make those "block buster deals". And of course we then follow that up with a steak and potato dinner to try and seal the deal. Just dont over-spend on the company Amex card. Bunch of Donald Trump wannabees. A true clan of Movers and shakers...err.... ummm... weenie salesman that prolly had their mothers co-sign for their 1200 sq foot cape cod on a busy street with NO yard.

 

Our draft is fun. We take players, add them to our roster, and then enjoy the football season. Is there something Im missing? What do you do thats so enchanting?

 

Bert - it is clear that your anger-laden posts are really a cry for help. I feel for ya brother. I want to help you regain use of your balls. I hate seeing guys with NO life all wrapped up in the job and stuff. Live a little. Smell the flowers. Life is too precious to work all the time and cater to the wifey. Time lost is never recovered. Sit down this weekend and re-evaluate your time committments. I expect to hear a solution to this situation. Please post back and let me know that you made some time for yourself in your hectic life.

 

I wish you luck in your "Ball-recon" mission.

[PackYourNut 47]

Lizard, clearly you are the one that needs "help"... Just an FYI... You must have a good reflection in your monitor!!!

[RoadLizard 73]

Lizard, clearly you are the one that needs "help"... Just an FYI... You must have a good reflection in your monitor!!!

 

Nah, Im as good as gold. I just tell it like it is and some people hate hearing it.

 

For the record, Bert is the one that got "panty-knotted" about the whole thing. All that stress from the career is killing the poor guy. I hope he makes it, I really do...

[Bert 1,128]

Blue collar? You make a lot of assumptions. Travel a lot? You guys must all be a bunch of weenie salesmen that think your big shots. Greasy hair, gold trim on the Honda Accord company car, $5.00 dollar a gallon cologne so your cigarette breath doesnt offend any clients. Focking laughable. And you DO have an idea what you're talking about? Just because we have normal jobs and careers(mix of blue and white collar) and dont piss away our lives working all weekend doesnt mean we have simpleton anything. Maybe we are smart enough to NOT have work weekends like you and your loser-clan. So not only does the wife got your nutsack chained up but the boss does too. What a suckah. Enjoy your stress related heart-attack coming soon. Golf outings is a sure sign of some half-assed salesman repertoire. I bet you guys have the Taylor Made drivers to further accentuate your insane slice. Prolly all take calls during golf on your cell phones too to make those "block buster deals". And of course we then follow that up with a steak and potato dinner to try and seal the deal. Just dont over-spend on the company Amex card. Bunch of Donald Trump wannabees. A true clan of Movers and shakers...err.... ummm... weenie salesman that prolly had their mothers co-sign for their 1200 sq foot cape cod on a busy street with NO yard.

 

Our draft is fun. We take players, add them to our roster, and then enjoy the football season. Is there something Im missing? What do you do thats so enchanting?

 

Bert - it is clear that your anger-laden posts are really a cry for help. I feel for ya brother. I want to help you regain use of your balls. I hate seeing guys with NO life all wrapped up in the job and stuff. Live a little. Smell the flowers. Life is too precious to work all the time and cater to the wifey. Time lost is never recovered. Sit down this weekend and re-evaluate your time committments. I expect to hear a solution to this situation. Please post back and let me know that you made some time for yourself in your hectic life.

 

I wish you luck in your "Ball-recon" mission.

 

Funny how pissed off you get when others make assumptions.

 

[RoadLizard 73]

Funny how pissed off you get when others make assumptions.

 

 

Love ya , Bert.

 

Im having a great time with this. You gotta admit, my rant was DEAD on though. Tell me ya dont know the type that fits my perfect description....

[Bert 1,128]

Love ya , Bert.

 

Im having a great time with this. You gotta admit, my rant was DEAD on though. Tell me ya dont know the type that fits my perfect description....

 

I know some guys in sales that are like that.....but we don't allow sales sluts in our league unless they are women with big cans.

[ToadSprocket 12]

Our Draft is Tuesday September 8th.

[Bert 1,128]

All that stress from the career is killing the poor guy. I hope he makes it, I really do...

 

Don't worry the 3 or 4 trips to Vegas every year take care of the stress just fine. It's a shame your wife won't give you the money to go to Vegas or I'd buy you beer.

[RoadLizard 73]

Don't worry the 3 or 4 trips to Vegas every year take care of the stress just fine. It's a shame your wife won't give you the money to go to Vegas or I'd buy you beer.

 

Awe man... I have relatives about an hour outside Vegas in Carson City. Were going there next year for a visit.

 

Thanks anyways, Bert.

[mgs316 14]

You cant do the draft on another weekend later in August? Do you have to do it really early or whatever?

 

I guess Im just insensitive to the common man's struggles with something as simple as a few hours set aside for a fantasy draft..which should also be a chance to do a little socializing with other owners. Some owners treat it like such a burden...like "Oh ######, I have to go to a fantasy football draft, Id much rather sit home or go to my inlaws and pick my ass..."

 

Geezus.

 

 

Are you retarded? These are people flying in from all around the country for this golf tournament, no one is flying across country for a FF draft.

 

You're an idiot.

[cribdog 0]

We have been drafting during the opening Thursday night game the past couple of years...works out pretty well, as someone usually scores and gets bought right away. However, drafting early is good also, as it adds more $$ to the pot with some of the pickups that occur before the season actually starts. Also, the draft is not as important as you might think...look back to your successful teams in the past, and see how many players you actually drafted that helped you to victory. It is usually waiver wire moves and trades that lead to a successful season, not a great draft.

[JosephB.Palasky 0]

Finished the '97 auction draft with a ruptured appendix. If I remember correctly I called out my last selection, Eric Kramer for 4, as blood dribbled from the mouth.

 

Set the date. Be there. Gosh.